He could already copy her but instead of just killing and replacing her, he let her go and she came back with a gun. Makes no fucking sense.
>>220101279thats not what happened
>>220101279He knew he messed up with the dog and that yelling for John his way may not get John to come, she wanted her to do it in case she would be more accurate at calling him over. He loses nothing from attempting this.
>>220101323>>220101340Except we see that he ultimately didn't use her to call John, he ended up doing it himself and letting her go free, which we know is what happened because she later comes back and shoots him while he's trying to mimic her to lure John out.
because arnie came up behind him and gave her a chance to bail, you stupid.did you even watch the goddamn movie.
>>220101279She's the main character, dummy. Can't kill her or the movie stops.
>>220101405That's not what happened.
>>220101279what movie
>>220101635"Better Call John", final scene
I never understood why he said "call to John" instead of "call for John". Is this to make it sound more impersonal and machine-like?
>>220101405>>220101551I actually don't know which one of you is right, I always watch it and can't remember how this particular scene goes. Doesn't make sense for him to let her go though.
>>220102021pop vs soda
>>220101635Oklahoma!
>>220101279The T-1000 was malfunctioning, and even if you discount the special edition (but why would you? It's the better version) there T-1000 knows that it's previous attempts at fooling John failed, it might not know exactly why, but it knows they did. A big part of fooling someone relies on them not expecting to be fooled, so it tried torturing Sarah to either A. call to John or B. possibly make her cry out in pain enough to draw him out. The 800 attacks the 1000 and gives Sarah a chance to retrieve her shotgun and escape so the 1000 goes to the back up of trying to imitate Sarah, which it fails to do successfully, even before John notices the glitched feet he's wary enough to get too close.The 1000 is a very advanced infiltrator, but it's not infallible.
>>220102021Calling for someone means to call and bring them to you, but just calling to someone means that they don't have to travel to where you are they could just call back. By calling to John either he will return, or he will just respond which gives the 1000 a direction to move in, hell even the way Sarah calls could indicate a direction he might be.
>>220101279The T-1000 was stupid. He kept the same disguise and just sperged out every time he saw John from a 500m distance. He should have just adopted a new disguise and tried to slowly get close to them and THEN go for the kill
>>220102396Maybe, but there weren't many scenes where he got close to them. First one was at the Galleria, second one is psych ward, where he had to move through the closed fence (which meant he'd be identified anyway). Last was the helicopter chase where he actually did look different, but was still identified by Arnie because it was obvious no one else would be following them in a helicopter flying so close to the ground.
>>220101279Makes perfect sense. As the last person on /tv/ that can articulate a coherent thought, consider this:He knew simply copying her wouldn't work because they know he can mimic anyone. Therefore the more reliable way to lure out John assuming he could see them from somewhere hidden is to use Ssrah as bait. If he killed her outright John would flee. By keeping her alive and wounded, he had the chance to lure out John and also ensure John wouldn't leave the area since Sarah would be a hostage.
>>220101279She had more pictures of the good looking boy
>>220102789>tfw turning into Edward Furlong even though I've never had a drop of alcohol nor smoked nor did drugs my entire life
>>220101279Didn't realize this until I rewatched T2 about a month ago:Linda's identical twin sister Leslie (who died in 2020) played the part of the T-1000 as Sarah Connor.
>>220101279You could also ask how Arnold didn't know what crying was even though he clearly has general knowledge about basic things of life. But it's pedantic.
I've got one that's bothered me since it came outWhy is the T-1000 "evil"?An element of the first Terminator that was so compelling was that he was really robotic, as in he didn't even have any villainous qualities. They really nailed this, he didn't hate Sarah, he wasn't mad at her, the murders weren't some weird sublimated sex thing. He was a bipedal Tomahawk missile, and he had exactly as many feelings and desires as one.As a movie concept goes, this is quite interesting and unique. The T-1000 is a much more generic villain in his characterization, where he's kind of a seething, sadistic bitch. I feel like that takes something away from the movie because almost every "slasher" movie is like that.
>>220104436Baby John Connor is played by Linda Hamilton's actual son as well, she'd given birth just a few months before production. A real family affair.
>>220102150Seems very convoluted, just didn't make sense why he wouldn't even restrain her.
>>220102685Why didn't he bother restraining her? He didn't even poke her eye out like he threatened to do if she didn't call John.
>>220104703The T-1000 had a higher ability to learn than the T-800 models did. Skynet feared this potential and as such restricted the T-1000's use to its moment of absolute desperation.
>>220104703The behind-the-scenes and expanded lore reasoning is that unlike the 800 series the T-1000 is a genuine AI like Skynet itself, it thinks and has some semblance of emotion (or whatever the machine equivalent is), and that Skynet was actually "afraid" of the T-1000 because it might turn on Skynet. So the best it could do was program in an intense hatred of humans to try and keep the 1000 on task. This is why the 1000 is willing to kill people with little to no provocation, even when it's irrelevant to the mission, like the truck driver toward the end, and also why it seems to take some kind of pleasure in not just killing, but killing in torturous ways. It would have been more efficient to kill the security guard by lancing him through the brain itself, instead it went through the eye socket and made him suffer for a little bit.
>>220104703>The T-1000 is a kind of a seething, sadistic bitchNo he isn't
>>220101279Tactical advantage to draw out John. Are you fucking stupid
>>220104824>>220104864Getting impaled through the shoulder is a pretty good method of restraining someone. If you're talking about after, it was a little pre-occupied with fighting the 800.
>>220102640He also had 4 arms at this moment.
The mythos in T1/2 was really fucking good. With T3 onwards I get the impression that the writers started to picture Skynet as an army of evil robot skeletons. The plots on those films make more sense when you look at it from this lens rather than tying in to the previous films. I think the absolute worst I've seen is that Terminator in Genysis that's driving a fucking truck. A human truck with human controls. So fucking stupid. And it's a huge part of the plot.
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>>220105119It's not as dumb as you think. In a war where everyone has access to jamming and other things that could absolutely derail a remote truck, it's easier to just use the designs that already exist (truck with pilot) and program a read-only t-800 to drive it from a to b. I don't know the plot point of the movie but I can see this being a thing. You can't remotely reprogram a read only terminator (in the T2 directors cut you need to basically remove the chip and change it. Good luck if it's trying to murder you) and also now theres a killing machine in the driver seat.
>>220105395>I don't know the plot point of the movieNTA but in the movie they infiltrate a Skynet facility by killing the Terminator driver and then crouching down next to its dead body in the cab as it drives through the gateThe Terminators on guard have this little slapstick reaction where they wordlessly go "Yeah this guy seems legit WAITAMINUTE HIS EYES AIN'T GLOWING"
>>220104703>>220104921If you pay close attention to his mannerisms you can see that the t-1000 gets progressively more petty and emotional throughout the movie. I guess it probably wasn't "born" very long ago and is learning about itself and developing a proper hatred of humanity throughout the story
>>220105395Why wouldn't they just put the terminator brain in the truck and have a smart truck
>>220105605because then you couldn't just reuse the millions of regular trucks laying around
>>220105435Well that's just shittier writing. >>220105605Because then I have to keep taking the brain out and it's vulnerable. If I have a terminator drive it, I have a human shaped creature inside that can not only drive but had specific instructions inside it about where to go that was uploaded with hardware rather than remotely. He also has the ability to get out of the trruck and kill rebels, remove road obstacles, fix the truck, and in the vent of a breakdown it can't fix, defend the truck till it radios for help.
>>220104921>behind-the-scenes and expanded lore reasoning
>>220101551Arnold shows up and chops him with the bar, then the T-1000 goes apeshit on him and impales him with it, giving Sarah time to get away.
>>220101381Yeah, and it doesn't work because his mimicry is getting all fucked up
>>220106666As directors-cut only ideas go, I really like the concept that he DIDN'T no-sell this, it hurt him fucking bad, almost as bad as Kyle's pipe bomb did the original TerminatorIt changes the whole context of the third act and sorta takes the plot hole out of OP
>>220101279why didn't he just wait at home melded into the floor and killing John when he's back
>>220106632That happened before he caught her and told her to call John
>>220101279OP, the reason the T-1000 doesn't just kill her is because up until that moment it had apparently never heard her voice. So it needed her to say something to replicate it. Otherwise it could have just killed her then and there!!!FACT!!!
>>220105629Says who? Converting cars to use an automated steering system is orders of magnitude easier and less resource intensive than building humanoid robots to drive them.
>>220105435they turned the terminators into the battle droids from star wars?
>>220101279>>220101381The T-1000 is more sadistic than the T-800 ever was. He is shown often toying with his victims before killing them.It also cannot properly mimic emotions in its intonation so it was far more efficient to have the sound of true maternal pain to get John to act irrationally giving away his position.
its a bunch of horse shit is what it is
>>220101279maybe you should ask the T-1000
>>220111824This webm alone is better than all of T1
>>220111778I really liked that analogy, so have a webm, just for you!
