GUL'DAN CHEATS
>MAY YOUR BONES ROT DEMONguldan never recovered from this
>>220114322>see one of their own trusted get horrifically killed by someone who lied and broke the rules>everyone does nothing about it, just stare, then go back to working for evil guythis scene confused me, he basically died 4 nothing lole
>>220114591>he basically died 4 nothing loleJust like real life
>>220114591They have 45 IQ
>>220114591Because it's a Mok'Gora. The only rule is one will stand and one will fall.
>>220115486This is why they let what's his nuts just walk away and get on his griffin. He won. That's it. Doesn't matter your feelings.
>>220115486If thats the only rule then what's with the cheating line
>>220114591>GUL'DAN CHEATS>MAY YOUR BONES ROT DEMON>*Gul'dan kill the guys who yell out*>"Anyone else?"
durotan had no chance against a lockGOD i don't know why he even bothered trying
>>220115586blud thought he was playing retail :skull:
>>220114322was there really a WoW movie? I've never seen a WoW player even once mention it and I played the game for 10 years.
>>220115564The rules of a Mak'gora seem to be different between each Mak'gora since they are chosen and set by the participants themselves. Generally, there are thus no specific rules. *There are only two consistent themes in all Mak'gora: once dropped, a weapon cannot be retrieved by either opponent and that the pair must fight to the death or until submission*. Magic, for example, has never been stated to be forbidden, and has, in fact, been used in multiple Mak'gora duels and thus seems to be permitted. Similarly, many Mak'gora duels have involved both fighters wearing body armor as well, but it can also be forbidden when explicitly required. I mean, sure you can still call it out and be pissed but, dead is dead.
>>220115707The entire WoD expansion was made so people would get into the game after watching the movie
>>220115707They announced it like 6 months after the game came out. I remember waiting years to watch it. I played from launch in 2004 to 2011 and the movie never came out that entire time. Many other people also quit during that time, their subscriber count started going down and never stopped. They released the movie in 2016. It was waaayyy too late. If they'd released it anytime from 2005-2008 it would've been a big event people would've remembered, but it released a decade later so no one gave a shit.
>>220115707The movie was based on warcraft 1 and most wow players never touched the rts games. The only knowledge they have of them is the cutscenes from WC3I don't even mean this in an insulting way, WoW just brought in a shitload of players who were completely new to the series.
it's funny how blizzard tried so hard to get people to sympathize with the orcs only to show that they're just as evil without the demon blood in WoD
So its pretty clear orcs in warcraft are based on huns/vikangz/germanic snowniggers right?
>>220115827blizzard is still mad a decade later that chuds think garrosh is based so they put a quest in the latest expansion where you go spit on his grave
>>220115827It always confused me why the humans didn't genocide them and instead stuck them in reservations. Also hated doing the mission where you fight Jaina's father. I wanted him to genocide the orcs.
>>220115950hes the only blizzard character that actually stuck to his principles all the way to the end and didnt do a sudden heel turn for no good reason
>>220115922YesTheir entire theme is barbarians/mongols/huns/whateverBut they later made them more of a "noble savage" race with shitty blacks/dindu elements
>>220115956It's okay that they drank demon blood and genocided the draenei and went on a rape and murder rampage across azeroth because they said they were sorry, anon.
>>220114322zug zug
>>220115922most fantasy media is based loosely on either the gallic wars or the sacking of rome
>>220116097das ritethe human chuds are the real villains
4 da whorefour the all eye ins!
>>220116097>genociding blue goat alien invaders = bad>genociding green retard alien invaders = goodI see.
>>220115950>Blue haired insane tranny occupiers at blizzard are still mad a decade laterFTFY
>>220115734WoD was two years before the movie tho
>>220116245the draenei are space jews
>>220115451Let's guess, you are liberal with secret racism fetishim and see orcs as black people
>>220116206Kenny vs Spenny
>>220116342Orcs are dumb as fuck nigga, you haven't played a single warcraft game
>>220116245Yes, it's generally considered bad to get rid of good, intelligent people, and good to get rid of bad, stupid people.
>>220116461Sounds problematic.
>>220116114I doubt getting zugged off by her would feel too good with those teeth.
>>220116549Shut up jaina, you green-dick-riding whore.
>>220116342orcs are literally descended from rocks bruv, theyre dumb as shit
>>220115956>It always confused me why the humans didn't genocide them and instead stuck them in reservationsit's fuckin genocide dudegenocide against sapient beings that have surrendered is what one might call a moral quandary if you're not autistic or zimbabwaen. We're not talking about slavering demons or hostile wildlife.sticking them in reservations was a compromise between the people who wanted them killed to the last and those who felt that literal genocide might send them off the deep end of the alignment chart.
>>220116114>tally marks of raped humans tattooed on shoulderrather ambitious character design I must say
>>220114322>at one point the 2nd biggest fantasy IP second only to LOTR>makes one shitty movie and barely anything else besides some card/board gamesHas any company fumbled the bag as hard as Blizzard
Very comfy movie.
>>220117147They made the most successful digital card game and MMO ever. One of the most successful class shooters ever. I don’t think they’re hurting for money in spite of being controlled by insane vindictive transgenders
>>220117147they got infiltrated by CIA with intent to use their games as propaganda platforms, and then this backfired when the troons they used to displace the old guard started having their own ideasI'm not kidding btw, the current game director for world of warcraft used to worked as a lawyer for a CIA director
>>220116002Basado
>>220117309>used to workedgood morning sir'd myself, it's over
I hated they cast some crackhead looking drug addict as Medivh for this film
>>220117868Huh
I hate that this movie never got it's sequels. I thought it was great and I want more. More than the game itself.
>>220115486Why throw away their lives so recklessly?
>>220118782It's among the orcs. Real greenskin shit.
>>220116206That's a cool image, can I save it?!
>>220115922Yes, even Tolkien Orcs (the complete opposite direction) were "Huns" (both actual Asiatics and also a little stab at the Germans being "industrious" bugmen)Honestly I think DnD is the only type of Orc that's not some combination of "barbarian" Mongol horde/Germanic tribe (whether they lean on muh honorable tribals or vicious savages)
>>220116726Aren't Dwarves and Humans also descended from stones in the Warcraft cosmogony ?
>>220117868King whoever was a baffling cast choice too
This movie should have launched Travis Fimmel's career from TV Star to KINO Star as the Aragorn of Warcraft.
I liked the movie, the CGI was pretty good and I wish they made at least one or two more movies.However it pissed me off that humans didn't use more grpyhons against the orcs.This thing so effortlessly fucked up the orcs when it landed and I wanted to see more lion bird kino.>>220119154Yes, Warcraft humans are descendants of titan built constructions made from stone and metal, that had a curse of flesh placed on them and they eventually started giving birth to humans.The titan construction origin is probably why even the peasants in Warcraft look like they're ready to win bodybuilding competitions.
the movie was funfigures yanks wouldn't like it
>>220118968Go ahead it is all yours. You can save it if you want to.
>>220119313>Warcraft humans are descendants of titan built constructions made from stone and metal, that had a curse of flesh placed on them and they eventually started giving birth to humansthe curse of flesh is one of the coolest pieces of lore to come from any game
>>220116758If a crazed bunch of roided up aliens would invade earth and went on a spree of indiscriminate murder and rape of mankind until we would be able to stop them, I personally wouldn't call genociding them a moral quandary lmao.
>>220119313So Orcs = rocks or clay ?Humans = metal ?Dwarves = stone ?My thinking is; I made it up and it makes sense, I don't actually know the lore though. Orcs are originally orangebrown so in my mind they're made of clay
>>220119685>If a crazed bunch of roided up aliens would invade earth and went on a spree of indiscriminate murder and rape of mankind until we would be able to stop them, I personally wouldn't call genociding them a moral quandary lmao.Lord Garithos has added you to friends.
>>220114322>flies into your main base on bird mount>kills your leader in one swing in the middle of your army >flies awayNothing personnel
>>220115721So there are plenty of fucking rules actually huh jackass
>>220115486YOU’VE GOT THE TOUCH
>>220114322i fucking love this type of thread so much
>>220116002There is another.Garithos is literally the only named character from the RTS games that has never been touched in WoW. He’s so powerful that they didn’t even revive him for a humiliation ritual, because they know everyone would just agree that in hindsight he did nothing wrong.
>>220114322Take the original source material pill.It's insane how many people still play Basedcraft when the actual franchise the entire thing is based on is having a massive renaissance.>b-b-but im too stupid for RTS games!!!So was Napoleon, and thats why he studied tactics.Besides you can just play Vermintide 1 & 2.
>>220114322Unironically a great movie. Not a good WoW movie though
>>220119983>it’s an Azhag laments that he’s surrounded by retards and fighting people he respects for their bravery episode
>>220119833Orcs = Really huge mountain made by shaman magic = broke off pieces that formed the colossals = devolved over time into gron -ogron-ogres-orcsHumans = Curse of flesh inflicted Titan creations of metal called Vrykul =HumansDwarves =Curse of flesh inflicted Titan creations called 'the Earthen' = Dwarves = TrogsGnomes = Curse of flesh inflicted titan creations called 'Mechagnomes' =gnomesTrolls = Master Azeroth race =High elves = Night and Blood elves one gay nature, one gay magic.Pandarin =lol nobody plays thoseForsaken = Resurrected undead humans
>>220119945>Generally, there are thus no specific rulesIt's literally right there
>>220120002Maybe he should have had more interesting campaign mechanics compared to his compatriots then
>>220119983Agreed, Warhammer is just better
>>220118695This, the movie was ok by itself and I wanted to see the continuation.
>>220120140Das rite
>>220120140>40k
>>220119969What about Daelin Proudmoore, did they rape his memory? The more time went by, the more correct he became in hindsight
>>220114322Why does every single Orc has the body of the Hulk? That's so stupid.>>220115707It was a complete waste of time. Blizzard had so much money and were so arrogant, they basically had full creative control over the movie and forced it to adhere to their "faction balance" autism, so instead of telling Arthas' story or do anything interesting with the first war, they basically gave equal screen time to both Alliance and Horde characters and ruined any chance of another Warcraft movie.
It's amazing how original and fun the og warcraft used its races and now we're on a 7th variant of elf that recently joined both factions. This franchise is dead and its skin is worn by a rotten company.
>>220120181https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXvToh3lYwY
>>220119969the Legion death knight class order has a quest mission where you send your followers to steal his soul to make your mount
>>220120620ogres are too based for modern blizzard
>>220115721that's actually a retcon when people were butthurt about WoD garrosh killuntil WoD, mak'gora was always. 2 people, 2 weapons. No armor, no amgic, no pots or anything else. It was in the books before wow, it was in the wow. The lst example was garrosh vs baine and garrosh was furious that his win was stolen by a fucking poison and a cheat. He was losing to Baine without that poison but he was more content with dying with honor than winning like a scumafter people kept shitting on shitzard rightfully, they came with ACTHUALLY there were shitton of mak'goras we never told you about and jsut because we didn't show you other ones doesn't mean that this and this was banned. Just to cover their fuckup. They also retconned the initial elements shitting on thrall for being a cheat to thrall being unable to use doomhammer and elements ebcause ekhm HE IS CONFLICTEDthis is your usual corporate writing, before even marvel become a thing with movies
>>220120809Cairne, not Baine
>>220121015yes, my bad. Actually fuck me for mistaking granpda gigachad tauren that was throwing garrosh around like some shitstain monkey in a cage, with his pussy son
>>220119969It's funny that Garrithos and Garrosh are both unassailably correct and based despite being "opposed". Strong "racist community doesn't even care what race you are as long as you're racist" vibe
>>220120181Jesus Christ, peak 2020.
>>220114322I still haven't seen the warcraft flick. Should I? I'm not into wow but did play wc3 ages ago.
>>220116002Is that meant to be a "hit piece" on Garrosh, because although I've never played WoW, it would make me think he's a man of absolute principle and based even if he did le heckin warcrimes. Shows how fucking out of touch they are
>>220121114because initially, they were straight up bad charactersI mean, they were written as antagonists. But because mutts at shitzard keep producing "eveyrthing is grey" and other morally "grey" bullshit, a clear evil or good character is actually good. And with deluge of shit writting, Garrosh looks now as decent character. It says a lot about what quality we have now, when shitty character from back then is now above normal quality now
>>220115775WoW is exhausting in it's constant references regurgitating the RTS games. No one is unfamiliar with Warcraft 1/2 save mechanically
>>220120620The undead should have been their own factionHorde was always supposed to be orc tauren troll goblin ogres and maybe another furbait race but adding elves to the horde completely ruined it
>>220116114Would
>>220120181>blind in one eye AND crippleI'm not big on lore but surely they have artificial arms? Wow has all kinds of crazy tech. Instead of having the shield glued to the back. I'm making assumptions here because this character is way after my time and know nothing about her but something tells me she chooses to remain a cripple. Because the real reason is the writer wants to be inclusive or something. Fuck it, just make a character that sits in a pimped out wheelchair that is also a war machine. And she is also blind, deaf and gay. Peak clown world.
>>220121332>Fuck it, just make a character that sits in a pimped out wheelchair that is also a war machine.he lacks critical information
>>220116114>Gluck gluck gluck CHOMP
Need big green mommy
>"GHOUL. DAN. SNEEDS" >"(FORMERLY MEDIVH'S)"
>>220119983>Take the original source material pillWarcraft 1-2?
>>220121332Anon, they literally have common healing magic. There’s no actual reason for her to be a cripple except for diversity points
>>220121391>HAES differently-abled being needs a wheeled conveyance to get around the battlefield I don't see the issue
>>220114591orcs are canonical cowards
>>220114591>>220115486It's because the film was written by retards for retards.
>>220121227I guarantee you the vast majority of people can’t name a single event that happened in Warcraft 2
i don't consider any of the WoW shit canon.The Warcraft story ended here.
>>220121227I played WoW for 10 years and don't know dick about any wc1-3 story except that some raid bosses were in those games. I was a diablobro before WoW
>>220121332>I'm not big on lore but surely they have artificial arms?Oh no, you really don't want to know about this.She is offered a mechanical arm but says no.
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>>220121726
>>220121669reminds me of Chronicles of Riddick. Arthas' story may be flawed sometimes, but it sure was memorableany other kinos/vidya that ends with the good guy unknowingly taking over the throne of the big bad? Love this trope
>>220121726>chaos undivided tattooCheeky
>>220121669Everything after Arthas put on the helm has been a fever dream that even he can’t wake up from.
>>220121669>story ends with him being killed by 25 random neckbeardst-thanks, Blizzard?
>>220120620this is unironically what made me quit WoW, what a pozzed dogshit franchise.
>>220121332Bullshit, you already know what happened. Some guy made her a prosthetic, she says no, give it to somebody else, i can't be assed relearning arms.Also, khadgar is in a purple wheelchair.
>>220121856They showed him their My Little Pony collections until he died of cringe.
>>220121724I was 100% sure. You know, this can be done right. Here's how, Kaz from MGSV refuses mechanical limbs for his missing arm and leg because he is pissed and wants to feel the pain and loss. Why is this not retarded you ask? Because he is limping around the base doing admin stuff and is not a WARRIOR that is out there fucking fighting and chooses to be at a disadvantage that can get him killed because he is fucking stubborn and retarded. I'm tired, boss.
>>220116342>sees a mention of IQ and his first thoughts are "fetish" and "bbc"You need help, dude.
>>220121977>I was 100% sure. You know, this can be done right.I wonder if I can find the screenshot of her conversation with the dude offering her the fully functioning arm.
>>220121977>remember that giga op commander from blech anime>he loses>antagonist moc him that he's a retard for not healing his arm and that would actually make a diffirence>commander explains why he didn't ask for new arm>later, new antagonist>kills commander and mocks him for being a retard with retarded opinion and that if he had his arm he would actually have a chance or even win
>>220120140I freakin' love 40k!
>>220114322>GUL'DAN KEKS
>>220116342peak reddit post
>>220122106Pinkhammer
>>220122106it's impressive how hard games workshop tries to push this shitthough I think most of that is just lip service, they shorted a ton of stores with the femstodes and no one was complaining they couldn't buy those, and even stores that did get them said they weren't selling
>>220122106>boy I love getting fucked in the ass giving my partner shitdick and needing diapers later>or mutilating my genitals>happy discoveryIf that was me, I'd be under the cube of shame for the rest of my days before I kill myself.
>>220120140>>220122106>WOKEHAMMER IS STILL BASED I SWEAR!lmao @ redditors
>>220122273it's baffling to me why people like that would even be interested in 40k>wow this bleak, violent, setting full of races that hate each other and a humanity that has no value of life any more needs more niggers, fags and trannies running around in ityeah let's just make the demographic of every setting the same one as most American coastal cities ffs
>>220122237>it's impressive how hard games workshop tries to push this shitnew audience, more money. Nerds keep buying it regardless.
>>220119955What's with the gay ai webm?
>>220122476>Nerds keep buying it regardless.but they don't disney proved this with star wars and like I said in my post stores have said the female custodes don't sell and games workshop themselves intentionally shorted the run because they didn't have faith it would sell either
>>220114591But enough about Trump's America.
>>220121173This guy gets it.Garithos isn't some based and redpilled superhero, he's a shit caricature from Blizzard's (and Metzens) humans are le real bad guys phase in 2001.Let that sink in. For all the wokeshit going on at Blizzard now, they have never been as anti-human as they were in the time around Warcraft 3 Frozen Throne.
>>220116114lets make all Orcs CGI but this one half orc would be a urine painted woman.
>>220121140He was the only WoW-specific character that was actually interesting and they killed him off because California writers don't do nuance. He embodied the "strength and honor" of the orcs in both the positive and the negative. All characters in modern WoW must be liberal and constantly navel-gazing about their emotions and who they truly are on the inside.
>>220119983Bro Total war fucking DEAD and died with Rome 2.Dont even try to mention this shit its just necromacers raping the corpse for profit.
>>220115707It's not good. Maybe a sign that Blizz had lost their narrative fastball by the time this came out. The game has only cratered further from this point.
>>220119983I mean Warhammer was a big inspiration, but Warhammer is also just LOTR through the post-Modern irony lens. Evil isn't evil it's just Chaos which is your blood turning into rats (paraphrasing an actual GW quote). Warcraft was a more sincere take on Tolkien that got Millenial morally grayer over time to the point where their Orcs are like the DND Mexicans now. Just saying both miss the mark in their own way.
>>220116758>genocide is immoralstop it with the antisemitism before i call the adl on you
>>220121114Almost like strength and protecting your own people are admirable qualities. It's why you goys seethe about Israel so much.
>>220120140>>220122106Thankfully, I didn't get too deep into 40k before I realized how bad it was.
>>220123433Man what the fuck happened. When I was a teenager all the WH players (and writers) were heavy metal fans.
Humans bad, orcs based. Fuck the alliance.Burn Ashenvale, shit on the dwarfs. Simple as.
>>220123487You must be unaware of the fact that a very significant amount of troons are nerds.That's why they've infiltrated everything you've ever liked.
>>220116114I should rewatch that movie.
>>220123487You are looking at cherrypicked images meant to upset you. My two friends into warhammer are metalheads
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>>220123487The line between metalhead and troon is thinner than one might think
>>220123063>I mean Warhammer was a big inspiration, but Warhammer is also just LOTR through the post-Modern irony lens.The two settings have nothing in common.
>>220123560orc bait
>>220123541And my two sisters are trans and into 40k, chud :)
>>220123674
>>220114591Guldan is a very powerful warlock. He had a good chance of killing almost everyone there.
>>220123063Lolwhat?Warhammer was a mostly a mix of stereotypes mixed with works like Elric. Chaos is lifted almost entirely from it.The Lord of the rings inspirations are present but almost entirely surface level, while their details tend to be either regional English stereotypes (I.e greenskins/dwarfs) or just historical things the writers found interesting and jammed a fantastical element into.
>>220123674troons are literal slaneesh worshippers
>>220123853Its a mish-mash as games tend to be because they're always looking to expand range of models.>Bretonnians - Medieval French>Empire - Late med/early modern Germany>Wood Elves - tolkien>High Elves - tolkien>Dark Elves - AD&D lift>Chaos - Moorcock>Orcs & Goblins - Tolkien/English football hooligans>Dwarves - Tolkien>Skaven - not sure?>Undead - standard AD&D stuff>Slann - Aztecs but frogs
This was the only good part of the movie.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRdd51m_X0YThis is also the best depiction of dwarves. Even better than LotR.
>>220123940>connect to prove you're not a robot :)Get bent jewtube I'm never connecting to you
Musky orc cock.
>>220119983You realize you can play/like both, right dumb dumb dipshit?
>>220120620Where are the scaly twinks and kung fu pandas?
>>220122476>Nerds keep buying it regardless.Except those fem custodes models lmao.
stopped playing when they put panda people in the game
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>>220124356I stopped playing in cataclysm because I mained DK and they fagged it up to the point I didn't enjoy playing.
>>220114591This pic should help you.
>>220124505That makes sense.It's kinda like how those who call themselves "punk" and "counter culture" have the same exact views as every institution and entertainment industry.
>>220122558what?thats not gaythis is
>>220122889...How is this dead?
I saw this movie in theaters in Harlem New York and it was filled with blacks that clapped and hollered after the movie was over. They loved this shit and it’s what I always remember about this movie
>>220123200Poor quality bait
>>220124578Heh, reminds me of the punk rock bar on bar rescue.That guy was based, called an actual punk rock musician a hipster, shat on fruity drinks and went broke. Because he believed in what the synthetic "counter" culture phenomenon provoked in his soul and didn't treat it as just another flavor of music as intended by sensible mature responsible adult normal "people".
>>220123928>Dwarves - TolkienDwarfs are yorkshiremen. They’re a play on the decline of the English north, with individual aspects based on their general stereotypes (refusing to ever forget a grudge, Penny pinching, practically worshipping drinking culture, etc) the long beards in particular are based on the four yorkshiremen sketch. They’re also one of the first examples of fantasy dwarfs being the technologically superior race
>>220122273Anal rape is portrayed as humiliating and corrupting in old lore. Pic related turned into a Slaanesh demon after getting raped too much. Nowadays Slaanesh is indisputably the strongest Chaos God given how cucked the franchise is.
>>220124702Blacks have always seen themselves in the orcs, makes sense.
>>220114591>kill Gul' Dan>No way home now>Can't summon horde to azeroth>Piss off new demon gods you worshipGul' Dan held all the cards
>>220120540They actually had other body types for orcs. Some skinner/smaller, also juvenile orcs and elderly orcs. All the scenes featuring them were cut out from the movie. Even if, admittedly, those were all in the background during the early Draenor scenes. There's a reason all orcs on Azeroth look like the Hulk: only warriors went through the Dark Portal.
>>220124760This is a movie problem. The dark portal in lore is self-sustaining, it doesnt need to be charged with human souls constantly and in fact proved notoriously difficult to close.
>>220124807It annoys me how the orcs keep getting bigger and bigger. In the first 2 games, the orcs were roughly human-sized and soldiers had the same stats in-game. In warcraft 3, the orcs were a little bigger and individual soldiers were a little bit stronger on average. Throughout WoW they grew bigger and bigger, and nowadays they are basically ogres. Really triggers my autism.
>Gul'Dan should've not been the only Warlock. The movie should've included the Shadow Council, even if just as window dressing in non-speaking roles.>Only the Frostwolves should've remained uncorrupted by Fel. Blackhand being a Mag'har orc within the context of the movie makes no sense, except the plot needed him to survive Medivh's arcane attack.>Gul'Dan being a cripple, onty to reveal he's actually physically imposing when he's about to fight Durotan, then to cheat, and ultimately go back to walking like a cripple, for some reason, after the fight is over, makes no sense. He should've always remained a deformed weakling, which is why he accepts the Burning Legion's "gift" in the first place.>The clan leaders meeting with Mannoroth should've been at least hinted at with brief flashback glimpses.
>>220123622Tolkien invented modern fantasy, if you see elves that don't look like they live on the North Pole, and Orcs that aren't little goblins, you can thank him.>>220123853So Elric, a post-modern ironic take on Tolkien inspired them more than Tolkien. To be clear, Moorcock is a shoe salesman without LOTR to copy off of.
>>220121787damn i gotta rewatch this
>>220115956Because then warcraft wouldn't exist?>>220117147They were dumb not to make a movie when Wrath of the Lich King was out because they had 10 million players>>220119141How does DnD do it differently?
>>220125237I guess we can't thank him for this 'elf' eh
>>220125526>How are DnD Orcs differentThey're probably not actually, I don't know enough about them other than some misprint or something lead to them accidentally being porcine, and I made it up
>>220119949YOU'VE GOT THE POWAAAAAAHHHH
>>220124505This is especially pronounced amongst the Chinese. Indians. Etc. For some reason white people are more independent thinkers.
Warcraft lore was never good it was always very silly
>>220126926To a degree, yes, but not by much. The majority of Whites are still golems.
>>220114591But enough talking about Amerimutts.
>>220124477Back in wrath when all 3 DK specs were capable of tanking, that shit was legit but they wereno doubt overpowered and it fucked over PVP
Uther, whatever happened there...
>>220125063Idk I like a different barbaric race being bigger, also whereas orcs are like 7 to 8 feet tall Ogres are like 10 to 11, theyre supposed to be hulking creatures like tauren thats why they have low agility and dumb brains to compensate
>>220124753Not specifically themselves. (orc comes from Turk) It's the idea of good white Europeans fighting fundamentally different outsiders that makes the whole fantasy concept racial. There's absolutely nothing blizzard could do to change this fundamental aspect of warcraft, if you made the entire alliance black it just wouldn't be warcraft anymore. Fundamentally warcraft is about whites versus others.
Who are the main gods in Warcraft? I know night elves worship the moon goddess and nature, but who/what do the humans worship?
>>220128174>We may never know, Uther. I intend to live fore-ACK!!!!
>>220128678the light, implicitly christianity with cathedrals and templarsorcs don't have state religion, they're animists and when the contractual obligation arises, demon worshippers
>>220120620You know... they could uh... make World of Warcraft 2 and print money off the preorders and deluxe editions alone. The game itself could be piss like Diablo 3, but it would still sell 10 million copies in a week.
>>220128678Human culture is worshiping "The Light" which is basically the Christian Holy Spirit aspect of God without the Father and Son.Orcs are naturally shamanistic, worshiping elemental and ancestral spirits, but about 95% of them were corrupted by demon-worshiping warlocks who fed them demon blood in the first game, and everything that follows is them trying to get back to spiritual purity so to speak, by returning to their shamanistic roots, but there is a large and persistent faction of edgy orcs that still worship demons and fight with the trad orcs and they regularly kill each other for control. Older orcs who drank the demon blood themselves constantly struggle with it like addicts, because it was basically like crack + steroids.
>>220121332they have healing magic but they added wheelchairsthe most powerful wizard in lore can't walk anymore and instead of going to a healer he floats on a magic purple arcane construct wheelchair
>>220121332Xe is in a badass cutscene thoughhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXvToh3lYwY
>>220126256The post-moderns got a hold of his shit and set about trying to subvert it right away. Martin and the SJW's behind whatever this is are still only ever reacting against him. Not really fair to blame him for their repeated attempts at destroying LOTR. They really only like it because (inadvertently) gave them a non-Christian world to play around in. That's the only reason Jackson got to make the trilogy in the first place.
>>220126950Warcraft peaked at 2, and Blizzard really peaked in terms of storytelling with Starcraft 1. It's all been a slowly accelerating downhill slide from there.
>>220129268The thing is that they have to constantly make up new horseshit for content, to entertain people playing WoW so they don't unsubscribe. Even if the company wasn't bought out by activision, even if it wasn't filled with SJWs, the story will still be slop by now, only a little less so.
>>220125177>Gul'Dan being a cripple, onty to reveal he's actually physically imposing when he's about to fight DurotanIsn't he just pretending to be a hunched cripple to hide all the demonic growths coming out of his back?
>>220129400Gul'Dan was born as a deformed weak cripple, which is why his tribe rejected him, he became a seething incel and the burning legion contacted him to offer him demonic power so he could get revenge on Chad and Stacy.
Every Mak'gora has some controversial ending where the victor is regarded as doing something dishonorable. Gul'dan cheated. Garrosh cheated. Thrall cheated. Sylvanas cheated. Mak'gora basically exists within the story to demonstrate to you that a character would use unethical means (even against their own allies) in their intentions of conquest. Mak'gora is a marker that this character has lost the plot, got lost in the sauce. And this is a recurring theme in the Warcraft franchise overall beyond just the conventions of the Mak'gora. The "fallen hero" trope. Arthas, Illidan, Tyrande, etc. Happens every time to be honest.
>>220114322everything with the humans fucking sucked.should have done a film about undead/sylvannis.also Kronos 5 is launching in a couple weeks, come play real vanilla WoW you homos.
>>220129707man you can't just keep playing vanilla WoW for 30 years
>>220129794They fucked up by not starting with Warcraft III.
>>220129781guess again faggot
>>220129839yeah warcraft 1 just isn't a very interesting story. even warcraft 2 would have been better
>>220129707>one friend plays retail>another friend plays classic>another plays classic hardcore>another plays classic tbc>another plays a wotlk private serverCan't keep up with this shit anymore.
>>220129839Yeah they should have done that and then they can show important moments from the first game through flashbacks or something. I think they wanted this to be a franchise like Harry Potter or Pirates of the Carribean so they started at the beginning of the Warcraft series assuming there would be like 4 movies
>>220129794most based poster on /tv/ right now
>>220120411They kinda did with the whole Jaina thing in Battle for Azeroth, but it's a little hazy
>>220129953yeah the community got split super hard after classic launch, private server population never recovered to nostalrius/whitekidney server numbers.there was a short time blizz shutdown in china and the chinese flooded in but they kinda play their own game and basically all of them cheat in one way or another
I'm enjoying Ascension rn
>>220129794>>220129967Fuck off, furfags. This is a /green/ board.
AB>AV>WSG
>>220129268Someone post that fucking zesty disney orc with the camera, you know the one
>>220114322watched half of this movie for the first time today on nutflix. i have pirated it a few times in the past, but always had it on while i did other shit. kinda cool to see what actually happens in it for the first time. there was so much money left in zogmerica back in 2016 its nuts
>>220115775>The movie was based on the heavily retconned version of Warcraft 1(by subsequent games, including World of Warcraft)Fixed
>>220131123AB<AV<WSG
>>220115775this is definitely how it was with the Chinese audience. it exploded solely because it vaguely reminded them of WC3 custom maps and early WoW, iirc i don't think they even got WC1/2
>>220114591Orcs are valorless retarded bitches, barely more cognizant than an average peanut
>>220125526D&D orcs traditionally are a knock off of Tolkien orcs, very barbarian in nature. Their origin is that their one eyed god is pissed off that he lost an eye to an elven god in war, so he created orcs to fuck over all the other races out of pettiness. Their religion is oriented around “orcs are the top if the food chain, so it’s your right to steal and kill as you see fit.” Modern D&D however is that they are a blank slate with no personality or life because that hurts people’s feelings or some shit, so they’re the same as 90% of the other races down to no longer even having unique stat bonuses.
>>220116097>because they said they were sorry, anon.I'm trying to remember, I don't think that part is even true
>>220124505>thereforeSecond paragraph has nothing to do with the first one. Inability to defy authority and lack of critical thinking are unrelated. Case in point - shit ton of people are well aware their government is dogshit and must be toppled violently but understand that doing that would very likely result in their own death or life sentence.
>>220120411Current wow team seems to wake up each morning, throw a dart at a wall covered in the names of all the important WoW characters then rape the shit out of whatever name was hit
Warcraft movie was stupid. They didn't even move out of any swirlies or do a damage rotation.
>>220121332There is literally a quest/character interaction where a blacksmith character tells her they can easily make her a prosthetic arm that can do everything and more a real arm could and she tells them "no" because she's not disabled and doesn't need it because she's gotten along fine without it so far. It's absolutely fucking stupid & about as dumb as those parents who won't let their deaf kids get cochlear implants to hear because then they wouldn't be "special"
>>220124753And Klingons from star trek, both are always talking about "muy honor" then acting in the shittiest most dishonorable way possible
>>220128985This is so stupid too he could just magic float on anything but it had to be an actual wheelchair for woke points
>>220131493The DVD bubble collapsed with streaming around 2008. The new Hollywood execs who came up under the ability to churn out straight-to-DVD slop starting looking for new product. Not a risky one-off movie, a "franchise" they could sell merch with. So, began the Super Hero movies. Warcraft was meant to be one of these franchises that they could merch and potentially launch it's own MCU.
>>220132191I bet you'd like to give them COCKlear implants, you SICK FUCK
>>220119983>too dumb for rtsTWW is what a fucking retard thinks an rts is. The worst total war by far and one of the worst rts games I've ever played. Awful balancing, braindead tactics, and the total price is fucking hundreds of dollars. Fuck you. It's literally just click on your monster and if it's green click the other guy if it's red dont and nothing else matters. Infantry is a joke. The grand campaign is unplayable since the ai cheats and spams 20 stacks of armies consisting of just dragons or whatever the fuck. It's literally only good for watching fucking animations play and Imnot autistic enough to burn $500 on that. Awful fucking game.
>>220129839>>220129926>>220129962They didn’t really adapt the first Warcraft anyway. The plot was a mishmash of the original game’s lore, WoW retcons, novels and mandated Hollywood bullshit. And they didn’t even burn Stormwind in the end and that was THE most important plot point of that whole era. The movie based on the First and Second war could’ve worked if done well. A proper gritty fantasy movie, not this soap opera with overblown CGI and inclusivity.
>>220132537>tl;dr = I'm bad and that makes me mad
>>220132547the story of warcraft 1 could have been a 5 minute prologue of a warcraft 2 movie. 2 is the actually interesting story with actual characters and fantasy elements. trying to make llane and garona and lothar into characters doesn't work because they're not, they're totems. trying to turn the plot into an actual story doesn't work because it's literally one sentence: 'orcs invade azeroth and kill some humans'.
>>220118695Same. I actually really liked it.
>>220132875Knew it was coming. How the fuck can you be bad at that game? It's barely even a game? Yeah I'm really bad at clicking on the thing the game tells me to click on and then watching the animations play out. What's the purpose of spearmen? Why to guns function as crossbows? What's the point of unit diversity in a game where each faction has an objectively best unit that you should just spam as many as you can? How do you justify siege battles in that game? There aren't even naval battles. Let's say for the sake of argument that it isn't a poorly balanced half-baked piece of shit that is extremely easy to break. Let's say it's actually a great game and I'm just mad cuz bad. How do you justify the monetization? $10 here $20 here $30 there just to add incrimental updates that finish the game? Fucking balance updates that are necessary to for the game to function as intended being hidden behind a fucking $15 paywall? The price for the full game with all the dlc is almost $600. Fuck you for shilling this bullshit.
>>220133144>The grand campaign is unplayable since the ai cheats and spams 20 stacks of armies consisting of just dragons or whatever the fuckMad cuz bad. Cope. Seethe. Git gud.
>>220133291Thanky ypu for tanking an entire franchise for the sake of your autism and then pestulently laughing about it like the disgusting little grub you are. Get hit by a truck the next time you go out.
>>220133498And thanky ypu for being a contradictory dumb nigger, kek.
>>220132358Bleak
>>220132358>vulpera beating gnomeat least gnome is still ahead of goblin.
>>220132358Earthenbros... it's so over...
>>220122680please make sure to repost your butthurt on BlueSky
>>220132358such a shame that the hottest race ever conceived by man (pandaren) is stuck in wow
>>220130323
>>220114438>Orgrim: You will follow this demon?!>Very distant orc in the background: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOgul'dan eternally btfo
>>220135358>worgen makes a rude gesture
>>220135630>First off, I'm not a warlock, so stop castin' at me
>>220121669based, if a warcraft tv show ever happens, they should deviate from wow completely
>>220130323Green
>>220124848Gul'dan killing Durotar is also something that only happens in the movie
>>220115775a lot of wow players have touched WC3 but not WC1 and 2 because why the fuck would you? they are ancient and shit. the story is also not as interesting as WC3's. I cannot fathom why the fuck they didnt just do the arthas story for the film. much less risky then starting from the very beginning.
>>220115922they are just based on the 'noble savage' trope so they're not really based on any particular culture, except maybe a decent bit of generic native american shit.
>>220137632What's green milk taste like?
>>220138575Go find out.
>>220138470>Noble savage>We're gonna rape and pillage and murder all we want and fuck everyone else who's gonna stop us>They get stopped>Fucking racist assholes we are proud and noble warriors please don't kill us that's mean and dishonorable
>>220138783I feel like I've heard this one before, but heyaheyaheyaheya, I could be wrong.
>>220116114Wish she looked more orcish. Still would, though.
>>220114322>GUL'DAN CHEATSGul'dan was the only good part of the movie, fite me bitch.
>>220138995https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08cmC0eX554
>>220138470>they are just based on the 'noble savage' tropeWhere do faggots like you come from? Warcraft 3 or WoW?
>>220140100WoW lore is the current canon, deal with it chud.
>>220138375Should've hired Henry Cavill to guard the lore of WoW.
>>220138995The injuns at least were there before whitey, orcs don't even have that excuseThey're explicitly demonic invaders from another planet
>>220140300my dad works at blizzard and he says it's not
>>220129781Better than playing retail
>>220140552My dad also works at blizzard and fired your dad just now.
>>220140552>>220140717My dad works at blizzard and he said both your dads are faggots.
>>220141059My dad works at Microsoft and is your dad's boss and my dad fucks you and your mom
>>220133784I like goblins and my dumbass thought we'd get those sea goblins because they were more relevant than vulpera in the story at the time in BFA and they also were more a reskin than vulpera which is the closest allied race to a new race, at least back then it was
>>220134769How much a furry are you that pandaren are hottest race ever conceived
>>220132358Even though it makes no sense lore-wise, blizz knew what they were doing by adding blood elves to the horde. Without them, alliance would massively outnumber the horde, especially among female players. Every single horde motherfucker's gf was a female blood elf.
>>220141365It was pretty wise in terms of balance, as a horde player draenei was what I was most jealous of followed by dwarves
>>220141111my dad works at activision after he got fired from blizzard from the other guy's dad and he asked me to ask you if your mom was available
>>220124623Yea, not doing anything for me. Let's change that.
>>220129192>MartinWhen the fuck did he try to destroy LoTR?
>>220132994The Last Guardian novel that Medivh stuff was based on had plot and characters, they should've adapted it more closely.>because it's literally one sentence: 'orcs invade azeroth and kill some humansIf you have to be reductive, sure.
>>220141765FUUUUUUUUUCKKKKK
>>220132358ZERO PANDAS?
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>>220133144you sound like a massive retard
>>220146318Other than SUNSET FOUND HER SQUATTING IN THE GRASS GROANING and some other gross/sex stuff there really isn't anything that Tolkien would've found all that objectionable in ASOIAF. Hell, i bet he would've enjoyed Ned, Davos, Jaime's (to an extent) and Brienne's chapters and the one where Sam is hauling ass trying to get away from the army of the dead.
>>220146573Also Bran's and Jon's too now that i think about it.
>>220146318>Now I admire Tolkien, I do
They REALLY should have done what Jackson did with LOTR and dis a 5-6 minute synopsis of the 1st 2 games and being it up to the story of the rise of Arthas as a paladin and his relationship with Jania and Uther for the 1st movie, continuing on to his descent into the lich king by the end of the 2nd and then the third would be the events of northrend, the scourge and his downfall. There, Trillogy complete.
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>>220146799ROO RAA ROO RAA
>>220124733>refusing to ever forget a grudge, Penny pinching, practically worshipping drinking culturescottish traits (from the perspective of the english)
>>220129839>>220138447>>220146793With this movie’s acting, casting, pacing and props it’s a good thing in hindsight that they didn’t get to Arthas’ story. They would’ve fucked it up one way or another.>>220147193The point is Tolkien was not above questionable criticism of other authors himself, you sperg.
>>220132358>blood elves>small remnants of a genocide that wiped out almost all of the high elves>not actually all of the survivors, some of the survivors stayed as high elves>high elves were never actually that numerous either, being an offshot of the highborne who were a small section of elf society>which was in itself just a small evolutionary offshoot of the trolls>naturally less numerous due to their immortality leading to them breeding less>the most common race by farit's a bit ridiculous really
>>220147490they got really horny
>>220115950If they were mad about it then why did they make a cutscene where he gets an honorable death by striking down his eternal tormentor?
>>220148048it was confirmed that some low level guy snuck it in which is why it's scuffed and unfinished in the actual game
>>220117868>shitting on ben fosterWhen they need to cast patchwork I'm sure they'll give you a call.
>>220146318He'd been famous for awhile by that point when he gave that interview, so he should've known that would happen with journalists.Besides, literally everybody knows there's only one (1) thing that you're allowed to complain about with Tolkien's writing: some parts can really, really drag. And it's true. Complaining about anything else, especially absurdly retarded shit like Aragorn's fucking tax policy does indeed make you a pretentious asshole. Nobody cares about Aragorn's fucking tax policy, you pretentious asshole.
>>220117868>>220119207Worst was this mistery meat.
>>220148727>Muh tax policyIt was just one example of the things Tolkien wasn't interested in but GRRM is. What Martin was really getting at is that a good man is not guaranteed to be a good king:>In real life, real-life kings had real-life problems to deal with. Just being a good guy was not the answer. You had to make hard, hard decisions. Sometimes what seemed to be a good decision turned around and bit you in the ass; it was the law of unintended consequences. I’ve tried to get at some of these in my books. My people who are trying to rule don’t have an easy time of it. Just having good intentions doesn’t make you a wise king.
>>220117868>>220119207>>220148728
>>220114591imagine doing nothing
>>220122831Based.
>>220150861It honestly is pathetic that the left can just openly murder right wing figures and the right will do... absolutely nothing. They just post shit like "i-imagine if a right winger killed YOU. t-then you'd be mad, h-huh?"
>>220150872When she sees my human dick ignore the shitty quality
>>220150961They really should've capitalised on her more. Human/orc romance had potential.
>>220150872Made for BHC
>>220151191>>220151376She's for dirty old men i'm afraid.
>>220150942and what did you do about it?
>>220148728Them pretending that Ragnar and her were siblings broke my suspension of disbelief the most.
>>220150942You gotta try harder than that, glowie.
>>220116114>>220150872The film wasting 40minutes on her was quite the atrocious choice.
>>220114322Honest question, is there a reason we're talking about this movie today? Did some news come out?
>>220152696And not even showing her nude!
