>>220123606
Killing your lid without telling you is definitely on the breaking up grounds. Too bad Mark is a cuck.

>>220123606
Can we stop this thread already? Abortion is killing a human life. Sperm and eggs are human gametes which are not human life. Some people are okay with killing people for convenience for their own reasons. Blah blah flame war blah blah retard /thread

>>220123606
>holocausting
This is actually the most appropriate word for it. The word comes from an ancient Greek word meaning, "burnt offering" in reference to ancient Jews burning their children on an altar as offerings to Moloch so that they could be blessed with an easier life. This is highly analogous to ripping your kids apart in the womb so that your life doesn't get more complicated or your plans to bring yourself prosperity don't get changed.

>>220123649
>Too bad Mark is a cuck
Quite literally later on. Even drops the "no matter what you do I'll always love you" cuck line on Eve after it.

>>220123832
I know the blue alien guy. But to be fair, Mark was gone for 4 years before she decided to move on.

>>220123606
Probably a jew.

>>220123719
Why do chuds pretend to care about human life as if they don’t fantasize about executing niggers and Jews?

>>220123934
>Inb4 they are not human

>>220123719
>Sperm and eggs are human gametes which are not human life.
Good thing that isnt what Eve murdered.

>>220123962
I was just speedrunning both sides of the flame war that starts every time in these threads.

>>220123606
My ex gf tried using her aborting my kid in an argument. I beat the dogshit out of her and being in jail still beat being aroind that dumb bitch.

>>220123649
That's straight up honor killing territory.

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>>220123606
Don't worry she got punished later

>>220123934
Babies are at least innocent.

The writer of these comics is a stereotypical redditor

>>220124011
Actual man. Good for you, anon. One day the justice system will exclusively punish the immoral, but for now you're a martyr for justice.

>>220124064
just look up at his early life section

>>220124059
So it’s arbitrary who deserves to live or die?

>>220123606
>Can literally create matter from nothing and will literally never want for anything
>sorry, I need to abort this kid because uhhhh reasons
Woman moment

>>220124141
>innocence as the deciding factor
>arbitrary
You couldn't be more disingenuous and evil if you tried

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>>220123649
isnt it illegal or something ? doesnt she have to tell him first or idk

>>220124168
>You are the evil one because you don’t want to kill niggers and Jews
Chuddy chud chud chud

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>>220124223
>You are the evil one because you don’t want to kill niggers and Jews
correct

>>220124223
>I say evil things to get good people mad at me
You're gonna be gone forever soon.

>>220123934
Do you say nigger around your black friends or just on here?

>>220124268
Sorry chud, but wonton slaughter is objectively the most evil thing you can do. I don’t make the rules, god does. Have fun burning

>>220124337
You dont believe in god tranny because your boomer parents made you go to church

>>220124324
Just on here to make it seem like he belongs. He doesn't, and he needs to go back, but at least we got him to say nigger.

>>220124367
You worship Trump as God, heretic. Have fun burning :) the Pope has you on his short list

>>220123719
>>220123934
/thread

>>220124310
You won’t do shit you pathetic little shit

>>220124379
>mind reading
Oh this is fun, do me! What color am I thinking of?

>>220124206
Lol. Sweet summer child

>>220124402
God will destroy you. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Repent of your evil ways because the window to do so is narrower than you think.

>>220124379
Trolling used to mean something. It makes me mad how far we done fell.

>>220124433
> God will destroy you. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Repent of your evil ways because the window to do so is narrower than you think.
You hate God sorry chud, the vicar of Christ has spoken

the satanic kike

>>220124433
>>220124379

Fake Christians who act like evil faggots call each other satanic. /pol/niggers are a joke

>>220124439
>It makes me mad
Well, it's still doing its job in a roundabout way.

>>220124511
Stop talking 2 urself troon

>>220124433
>Yes I hate niggers and Jews and want to kill them painfully and fantasize about it but YOU ARE THE ONE WHO WILL BURN IN HELL

>>220124511
>Fake Christian
The literal words of Jesus:
>God will destroy you. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Repent of your evil ways because the window to do so is narrower than you think.

>>220123606
Believe women, chud

>>220124531
I shoild have used the picture of the fat nigger from The Wire since the reference went over your head.

>>220124511
Quit samefagging, homo.

>>220124553
Jesus also said you are all one in Christ so racism is literally Satanic

Can someone explain a woman’s perspective? If she thought he was dead I’d have thought she’d want to keep the baby to keep a piece of him alive

>>220124581
Only those who are in Christ can be one in Christ. Universalism is bullshit.

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>>220124581
Causing divisions within the church is satanic. Acknowledging social and cultural differences among the races outside of the church isn't prohibited. Nice try.

>>220123606
>sex is designed for procreation
>hedonist teenagers fuck for fun
>get pregnant unexpectedly
>can't deal with the consequences of their action, so abortion fixes
Am I expected to feel sympathy?

>>220124644
>>220124602
The Orthodox Church has consistently opposed racism. They even vocally supported desegregation in America.

>>220124581
>only troll anon said anything racist
>christian anon exclusively rebuked him and warned him away from trolling
Just to make that clear.

>>220124650
>fuck for fun
so do most people that aren't stuck up christcucks

>>220124602
>>220124644
>Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

I’m sorry, but you cannot theologically defend forcing Black Joe to the back of the bus and giving him lesser accommodations.

>>220123606
i am right wing and i have 0 problems with abortion

>>220124800
Jesus literally called non-Jews “dogs” at one point.

>>220123800
Why is one abortion worse than mass murder, you izzat thumping retard, it's the only thing stopping brown refuse like you from completely zerg rushing the west

>>220124802
>>220124433
The Bible only mentions abortion once,
Numbers 5:11-31 is the only time abortion is mentioned and it’s a recipe on how to perform one.

>>220124864
Why did you get so butthurt about Jewish sacrifice practices? Are you perhaps a shebrew?

>>220123606
The author of the comic is literally a kike hack.

>>220124591
Wanting to be a single parent?
Reminder? You shouldn't raise a child without a father. For them(the kid) to born for such a purpose is wrong.

>>220124800
>Love your neighbor as yourself
My neighbor is the one who lives in my land and obeys its laws. Per the parable of the Good Samaritan, my neighbor is the one who would help me if I were injured. My neighbor is not the person who wants to take advantage of my countrymen, rob, steal, invade, or replace. Those people are invaders. Loving my neighbor means protecting them from invaders.
Nice try twisting my Lord's words, but He meant more than "generally be nice to everyone to your own destruction."

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>>220124876
I don't have a problem with abortion per se.
But women shouldn't get a say in the matter

>>220124977
Not reading all of that leftist nonsense

>>220123719
>A developed human in a womb is sperm and eggs.
This is why large numbers of women should be forcibly sterilized. You can't murder children when your tubes don't work.

>>220124777
you sound butthurt

>>220125029
Reading comprehension needs work.

>>220125004
>That'll get under his skin?
>Oh, I know, I'll call him a leftist!
Repent, anon. The soul that thrives on outrage is not one the Lord will want in His courts.

>>220125055
You still are trying to justify murdering children.

>>220125055
When you think a developing fetus is a sperm and an egg you can't really call out anyone else for being illiterate.

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>>220124048
Cheating whore. You deserve to get mauled.

>>220124591
Also, wouldn’t Cecil 100% steal the aborted viltrumite fetus for experiments?

>>220125125
>>220125152
Let me reformat this so it makes it clear for you.
Can we stop this thread already?
(Side A says) Abortion is killing a human life.
(Side B says) Sperm and eggs are human gametes which are not human life.
(Ultimately it is revealed) Some people are okay with killing people for convenience for their own reasons.
(Thread goes on too long) Blah blah flame war blah blah retard
(Finally, mercifully) /thread
This guy got it>>220124397
Why couldn't (you)?

>>220124777
Most people who aren't mentally ill foids use contraception or don't act like degenerate sex addicts.

>>220124337
>god
Uh oh, did you just use a lowercase g for God? Go larp elsewhere troon

>>220125230
And when the eff and sperm combine they are not gametes but a biological human with it's own DNA. You still need to be forcibly sterilized for the greater good.

>>220125152
>Abortion is killing a human life.
>Sperm and eggs are human gametes which are not human life.
These are two separate clauses expressing two distinct, non-mututally exclusive facts. Work on your reading comprehension.

>>220125279
>You still need to be forcibly sterilized for the greater good.
I know I embarrassed you, but you get it now. Take your L and stop being hostile.

>>220124371
>muh seekrit klub
you are an insufferable faggot

>>220124591
She doesn't want to be a single mom, because even if she's well off financially, being a single mom means Chad will be less interested in you

>>220123800
>burning their children
Lol wut? it involved burning an animal

>>220123606
Why are chuds so obsessed with abortion when they'll never have children of their own let alone a woman who will tolerate their touch?

>>220125377
Why are you so obsessed with kids if you arent a pedo troonbro?

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>>220125302
>gets rekt
>N-n-o YOUR EMBARRASSED!
kek, you love to see it.

>>220125377
Abortion eliminates rape as a successful reproduction strategy, and this is not okay

>>220125375
before jews adopted YHWH as their own and only God, they and their neighbors sacrificed children

>>220125302
>Doesn't know a zygote with a complete human cell is not a gamete.
Time for your forced uterus removal, food.

>>220125375
In the days of sacrificing to God it did. One of the times the Hebrews went astray, the began sacrificing their children to Moloch.
>Jeremiah 32:35
They built high places for Baal in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to sacrifice their sons and daughters to Molek, though I never commanded—nor did it enter my mind—that they should do such a detestable thing and so make Judah sin.
>Leviticus 18:21
Do not give any of your children to be sacrificed to Molek, for you must not profane the name of your God. I am the Lord.

>>220125377
Why do women want to kill their own children?

>>220125458
See
>>220125286
You're not arguing against one person's coherent argument. Your arguing against one (intentionally) flawed statement in a representation of how annoying the flame wars in these threads are.
You're dumb.

>>220125528
Time for your uterus removal.

God is the greatest abortionist of all time. 50% of all fertilizations end up as miscarriages.

>>220125550
God is also the greatest life-giver of all time since 100% of all life is due to Him.
He's also the greatest killer of all time since 100% of all people who die do so by his decree.
He's the author of life and death and what's not fine for us is fine for Him.

>>220125528
Are you the poster who thinks an egg fertilized by a sperm is still 2 separate gametes?

>>220125550
>natural death exists.....therefore murder is okay

>>220124163
>seething and malding at fictional characters as if they were real
mentally ill incel moment

>>220125604
No. That line was included because it's an objection abortionists use all the time.
>muh jacking off kills 7 million sperm
>muh menstruation kills eggs
They're not human life. Abortion ends human life.
I thought including both statements would make that clear, but no accounting for everyone's reading comprehension. Hope that clears things up, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

>>220123719
This. These threads are entertaining because it's the slop of the week, but nobody is changing their minds on what they believe

>>220123800
Not really. They burned sacrifices because the gods don’t have physical bodies to eat with so they thought they could consume the sacrifice by absorbing the smoke and aromas. The last part when building a stone idol was typically the drilling of the nostrils do that the spirit of the god could enter the statue and reside within it and receive these sacrifices.
The whole idea behind sacrificing comes from the eastern notion of hospitality. You’re offering food to your gods hoping that they will reside with you and that through this relationship you can become more like them and receive favors from them.

>>220125586
take jew dick out of your mouth, playa

>>220125754
>immediate filth
I accept your concession, demon.

>>220125720
You're a concern trolling foid who would rather people on 4chan not discuss how killing an innocent developing child in the womb is murder. Your appointment has been set for your uterus removal.

>>220125865
>muh demons.
You christchuds are just as obnoxious as foids.

>>220126054
>>220126074
You are retarded (a twofer)

>birth that child you filthy slut, now get the fuck outta here. and here's your 80k hospital bill btw
this is LITERALLY the essence of "pro life"

>>220123719
Idiot.

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>>220126111
>Has to resort to ad hominem.
It's ok. You lost and got exposed as a concern trolling foid. Drink plenty of fluids after you get your uterus removed.

>>220126255
Why don't you want people on 4chan talking about how evil abortion is?

>>220126330
because we talk about it every day and everyday chuds get btfo when they get cornered into admiting they arent blood or organ donors. rules for thee but not for me

>>220126301
You are a retard.

>>220126379
And the talk is still ongoing. Abortion is murder and foids like you who want to justify killing unborn children should be sterilized. You need to fuck off back to r3ddit/discord if you have problem with it.

>>220124324
I was watching an action movie while drinking with my black friends and during a fight scene I yelled "FUCK THAT NIGGA UP" and even though they talked like that throughout the entire movie, me saying it once was enough to end friendships that were over 10 years old.
It was then that I learned what "black fragility" was.

>>220126391
You want to murder unborn children.

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My ex in college aborted our kid without telling me and got surprised I dumped her. I sometimes still have dreams where the kid is alive and I'm raising her or where she's crying in the afterlife.

>>220123606
When season 1 came out I kept thinking her name was Adam Eve and that the atom in her chest was a forbidden symbol over the female one so I thought she was some kind of super powered self hating tranny or something.

This is a Christian website and always has been, R3ddit cucks

>>220126845
It's a Christian world. They're just living in it.

if you cant empathise with eve over this youre such a faggot for real

>>220123606
>Who wrote this?
Someone who's been in a healthy relationship. More importantly one who isn't an incel. You'll understand some day it you ever love someone (you won't)

>>220124433
>m-my dad will beat you up!
lule

>>220123719
No. The seethe wars will continue forever.

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>>220126255
Doesn't matter. Fat blob need putting her in place

>>220126879
>>220126887
Seethe harder, retarded roasties.

>>220125230
>Embryos are people
This is actual satanism and dehumanizes people. If you consider yourself as on equal footing with an embryo, you are mentally sick and should be committed to an mental health asylum.

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>>220125279
>This is what a human looks like

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>>220126379
How is that any justification for murdering your own child?

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>>220126887
"You can't get a girl unless you are a feminist simp who lets her walk all over you!"

You femcels really believe this, don't you? Thank Christ my wife is pro-life.

>>220126940
have sex.

>>220126802
>Stuck in the afterlife as a crying fetus unable to age
This is you God's example of benevolence?

>>220123800
Jew didn't worship moloch, you fucking cretin, but they did do the offering to Yahweh.

>>220127102
He wants to, but he can't. What a sad waste of life. If only he were aborted he need not suffer this material world. And we wouldn't have to suffer him. Alas, God is not just.

>>220123606
so we create a hypothetical super woman that can create infinite wealth out of thin air, and has a super perfect baby with a partner she loves, and foids still think an abortion is morally justified? why are they like this? do they just enjoy killing babies?

>>220127143
oy veeeeeeyyyyyy they know

>>220127102
Don't mind if I do!
>*pulls your pants down, thrusts you to the ground, and starts humping*

>>220127202
You can't be more than 60 IQ

>>220127078
You don't have a wife lol and you never will until you grow up.

>>220127313
>kike pulls IQ card
lmao. People have woken up to your faggoty gnostic Christ-hating religion and no amount of kvetching can solve it now.

Why you would choose to cum inside a woman that believes in abortion is a fuckin mystery to me.

>>220126879
please fucking explain it to me nigger

"oh my god..the man i love might die...i better murder his unborn child as well i wouldn't want any trace of him to remain" like lmfao. shit this evil ONLY happens in fiction, even irl women can't conceive of this villainy

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>>220127325
>growing up to the modern nu-male is letting your kids be murdered for a crumb of pussy

>>220127418
your girlfriend will explain it to you.

oh wait...

>>220123606
I don't have a problem with this. It's not a real child until it comes out of the womb.

>>220123606
>Abortion Eve
what an insufferable character ugh

>>220127460
You've been rage baiting all thread and just making yourself look retarded lmao

theyll make a new one in season 6 or 7 so who cares

>>220127566
six seven haha!!

>>220126529
I'm still dumbfounded by the entire thing. I basically grew up in that house and because I said a word once that everyone else was using constantly, I was evil and racist because of the color of my skin. I was so confused about the entire situation. I loved them all, they were my family. But if a word is more important than what we had, then I guess they were niggers all along.

>>220127629
>then I guess they were niggers all along.
something tells me the friendship wasn't ended for what you claim it was

I would also abort Mark's child he's such a beta faggot

>>220127566
There is another thing. Eve and Mark are fucking immortal and they only have one kid. What? This whole story is reddit incarnate.

>>220127668
They could not understand that I should be allowed to speak freely without being restricted by my race. Only they were allowed to do that. It's like if they didn't have breakfast. There was no comprehension or understanding at all. Just me me me and that's not how my people act.

>>220127629
You see things right.

>>220127521
What even makes a man rage bait for fun? It's such a degenerate pastime.
>I'm gonna try to piss people off for the next 8 hours

>>220127910
irony: thine projection

>>220127143
>Jews didn't worship Moloch
>>220125462
>2 citations ITT of where they did within their own holy scriptures.
NGMI.

>>220127887
Viltrumites live for thousands of years but are not immortal. Eve didn't know she was immortal until she was on their death bed. Mark does also have his rape-son. But yeah its weird they didnt have more kids

>>220127031
unironically more human than any sharty femcel ever will be

>>220123934
>retard cant understand the concept of being anti-abortion depedning on race
If blacks and jews abort then I don't give a shit.
The only lives that matter on this planet are White

>>220127078
Mine, too. My first wife was a BPD, antinatalist nutcase who made my life hell. Now I'm married to a beautiful prolife Christian girl who's pregnant with our second baby boy. God is good.

why the fuck do you faggots piss and shit over some random women nuking their unborn kid? im sure you sexless retards care more than the actual father

>>220129265
>uhh... dude... like, why do you like, care about killing a child... like... bro, FUCK YOU
Powerful.

>>220127031
It has complete human DNA so yeah it's a human. Seethe bitch,.

>>220129265
Why are you leftists obsessed with killing unborn children?

>>220129296
unless shes literally a month away from birth that fetus aint a child. its why its okay during the first trimester, costly during the 2nd and not allowed during the 3rd unless its dangerous to the woman's body. they literally account for the actual progress of the child.

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>>220123887
>decided to move on
by killing his offspring LMAO

>>220130249
>erm... it's not my child... it's... le FETUS!!
Calling it something different doesn't change what it is. I can call you a faggot or a nigger or by your name, you still are what you are (all 3).

>>220130178
That's a rat embryo you rucking idiot

>>220130644
And a human emryo is a human the same way that rat embryo is a rat. And you are still a jewish baby killer.

>>220130644
Ruck you too, rigger!

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>>220124602
>Universalism is bullshit.
Wrong.

>>220130411
why dont you go impregnate a woman with your own kids instead of worrying about everyone else's you sensitive little cuck. the progress of the child is accounted for during abortion. there's a stark difference between the 1st and the 3rd. if chad decides to pump and dump 10 hot dumb bitches and 6 get pregnant you really think its a good idea to force those women to be poor single mothers? of course you'd never ever consider those possibilities because you dont have sex.

>>220123606
Feminist anti-white jew.
If the child was a nigger, they woldn't have aborted it.

>>220131234
>wh-who l-le cares about... o-other people's kids
Uh, everyone, that's why we have a court system, retarded nigger.

>>220131186
>rejecting human free will
Sorry Clement, some people reject Christ. Christ Himself said such people would be destroyed. Tragic, but it is what it is.

>>220123606
Keep posting dumb shit to retaliate.

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>>220124233
>>220126911

>>220123649
He was in FUCKING SPACE
>>220124048
What the fuck are the mechanics of ripping someone's leg off at the thigh with a string around their ankle while they're lying on the ground with nothing to hold onto???

>>220131676
Yes making it even more fucked up that she killed his kid. Imagine if he died in that battle and she ended his fucking lineage. What the fuck? She can literally generate money, food and shelter by snapping her fingers or get the kid a foster home after 30 seconds on the phone with Cecil. It's indefensible.

>>220123649
There's a reason he told her later on that he liked it when Anissa raped him

>>220131186
Clement of Alexandria wasn't even a universalist. Do you understand what this context-free quote you've posted says, or are you just throwing out quotes like Satan in the desert?

>>220131469
>the court system
thats clearly not the point you dumb cocksucker. i dont even think abortion is good but the reality is women are fucking retarded and not every man is willing to shackle himself to one woman.

before i had a gf i had the same opinion of abortion being bad because of muh kids then i got a gf and realized how insanely easy it would be for me to put a baby in her and ghost or realize i dont actually want to spend my life with her or the fact that we could be dumb and broke. it sucks the world isnt some 1950s nuclear family fantasy but thats why this is real life and abortion accounts for that. do you have any better realistic solution for these insanely common scenarios?

>>220123934
You said it yourself, they care about human life

>>220131911
>When I got a girlfriend I realized responsibility is scawy :(
Then get a vasectomy and don't kill your kid for your mistake.

>>220131911
>wow it would be so much easier if i just killed this kid then i wouldn't have to take care of it or remember my failed relationship
u know there's a reason why women pretend it isn't alive. the argument you're making is completely unreasonable and immoral

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>>220131531
In what sense is a decision 'free', if it weren't directed towards some end that the being making that decision judges as good? If a person ran into a burning building with the intent of burning themselves, and the only reason they gave for inexplicable actions was that they wanted to exercise their free will, would you call that person free, or would you call them mad? No, free will can only be truly free when it is used in pursuitof the good, and God is the most good.

God is transcendental goodness, God is the ultimate target of the rational desires of all beings. Even when the devil rejects God, they only do so because they mistakingly judge it as being good for themselves, in rejecting God, they seek the good in incorrect ways, they unconsciously seek God.

So what makes a will truly free? It's when that will knows what is good for itself, and is free from delusions that inhibit its reason from seeking what is good for itself. So when a will rejects God, the transcendental goodness in which that will's nature will have the most satisfication, you can't really call that will free, that will is either mired by ignorance, or is mired by irrationality.
>>220131904
Saint Clement of Alexandria was a universalist.

>>220123606
The leftist

>>220131911
Hm, okay, so first of all, whether or not you believe the ends justify the means is a separate argument. You were originally crying saying people shouldn't care about other people's kids, but that's not how society works. Everyone has to care what other people are doing, or else we live in a niggerlicious hellhole full of people shooting, raping and stealing from each other. You get that? Okay, good.

Second of all, if you don't want to have kids, you can simply use birth control. There are many very easy methods of birth control. Only the dumbest of dumb fuck retards - like you apparently are - can't figure that out. Alternatively, you could just not have sex if you don't want kids. Very very simple. I've had a gf for 6 years and we don't have kids despite fucking almost every day that entire time, because we've used birth control. It's really not difficult for a non-subhuman.

Lastly, I am actually in favor of abortion, because I personally do believe the ends justify the means. I believe that retarded dumbfuck niggers (such as yourself) should be able to kill your own kids, because you shouldn't be breeding, and any methods to prevent you passing on your genes are justifiable to cleanse the gene pool.

>>220131961
the vast majority of men wont get a vasectomy you faggot.
>>220132004
>completely unreasonable and immoral yet you dont even provide a proper counter argument besides being a moralfag. again what if i simply decided to pump and dump my gf while shes pregnant then move onto the next bitch?
your argument literally hangs on every single guy sticking his tip in pussy to just hang his coat up and shack down with the woman when 90% of people arent responsible at all and women are retarded already. you truly think its a good idea to just force the chick to become a single mother and remain preggers instead? do you have any idea how disastrous that would be

Being anti abortion is almost always performative. They say they are pro life but are only truly pro birth and give zero fucks about the child afterward.

>>220132773
You leftoids have been parroting this canard from your anuses for about 20 years now, don't you ever get tired of it? It's about time to retire it like the other dumb shit you guys used to say, like the pronouns crap or "racism is power + privilege" or whatever. At least you guys have the sense not to say that faggot shit anymore.

>>220132773
That just means neither side is affected by the completely separate notion of raising the child.
Having the
>but what if the kid was poor and brown
tacked on adds very little to the conversation.

>>220132634
greentext wrong is cringe on my part but my point still stands. how is it moral to force all women to remain pregnant no matter the circumstance involved in the pregnancy? my gf even told me she was scared I'd fuck her and leave since thats how easy it was for me to take her virginity and bounce. keep in mind at the time i did i was a tipsy asshole alot and we were both young. I'd never do that but the fact she was nervous i would says alot.

>>220132063
That's a lot of writing and rationalizing just to reject fundamental Christian beliefs and be wrong.

>>220132773
Anti-abortion Christians by a wide margin do more for the disadvantaged in general and disadvantaged children in particular than any other group on the planet. Not one hour ago I met a Methodist in the gym wearing a t shirt commemorating his church's shoe drive to give poor kids new shoes.

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>>220133127
>fundamental Christian beliefs
Most early Christians were universalists. It wasn't until around the 4th century AD that Infernalism began being heavily pushed by clergy and secular authorities as a psychological terror tactic to enforce imperial authority on laymen.

>>220133254
Source?

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>Source?

>>220133383
I look like this and say this

>>220132773
i dont even understand these moralfag fucks. complain about the negro population booming in one breath then anti abortion in the next. yes lets just ban abortion and force every SINGLE child the world over to be born no matter the circumstance, individuals and environment. real adults understand yes life is precious but its also very arbitrary. i hate women as much as the next guy but any real society accounts for the other 50% of the population.

>>220132773
It's almost as if parents should be looking their own children? But the family unit is facism according to you leftists

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>>220133316
Basil's De Asceticis

>>220133444
banning abortion will only stop white abortions because blacks don't obey the law.

>>220133513
Love thy neighbour, you should care about every child.

>>220127629
>you think I'm racist??
>I'll show you!
>by being an actual racist
You're retarded. People that aren't racist don't take an experience as an opportunity to say racist things. Sorry that happened to you though, they didn't seem too reasonable.

>>220133518
Okay so most people in one town for a short time thought that

>>220133576
I do. But 99.9% of it should fall under the child's parents

>>220133444
abortion should only be banned for whites, obviously its fine for the others

>>220124676
You mean the Turk ran church

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>>220133579
Christianity emerged in the Greek-speaking Eastern Mediterannean, universalist Saints such as Clement of Alexandria were taught by people who were taught by people who were taught by the 12 Apostles. If the early Church Fathers were universalists, who do the infernalist popes or bishops living hundreds of years later think they are to denounce universalism?

>>220133621
well why dont you go support the white race and have 8 kids yourself friend

>>220128056
Pretty sure Mark gets extra bullshit that makes him even more special by the end of the story.
The ending is basically full wish fulfillment since readers were tired of Mark getting fucked over non-stop.

>>220125649
>non-argument

>>220133694
>If the early Church Fathers were universalists
Not all of them were, a few were. And Scripture much more heavily corroborates infernalism than universalism.
Show me where it says you can reject Christ and still go to heaven

>check three boards
>invincible abortion thread on every single one
performative christfags aren't oppressed but they should be

>>220124800
And what do you say when they obviously don't give a shit about their lesser accomodations? What do you say when they deride and mock their own kind for being "too white" simply for enjoying nicer accomodations? What about when they're left alone in South Africa and Rhodesia with my accomodations, only for them to make my accomodations lesser by stripping pipes for scrap metal and scraping up pavement to sell for bottle caps?

>>220133254
Christ literally spoke of the inferno more than anyone else in the Bible. You expect us to believe early Christians ignored this because you are of your father, the father of lies.

>>220132571
why did you type all this bullshit to simply just agree with me at the end? you agree not everyone is not going to be responsible to use birth control so whats your point. and yes we should care about everyone kids but i dont care if some woman 3000 miles from me decides to get an abortion, why would i? she could have 100 different reasons.

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>>220133694
Universalism relies on re-interpretation and subordination of Scripture.

>>220134175
I was a Christian in 2005 when you atheists were in your golden age and still am. Go cry to Ricky Gervais

>>220133694
>Search Image on Google
>Exact Matches
>r/ChristianUniversalism
You should go back and stay there.

>>220134099
>Show me where it says you can reject Christ and still go to heaven
That's literally what the Law is for. And it's basically impossible for man to follow it.

>>220134367
What are you talking about? Sinning?

>>220134367
>believes everyone goes to heaven
>believes the law was put in place as an impossible standard
Do you actually believe anything Christian?
Do you believe Christ died and rose from the dead?

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>>220133694
>>220133254

>>220134507
I'm equal parts confused and fascinated by him

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>>220134099
>And Scripture much more heavily corroborates infernalism than universalism.
No it doesn't. Any supposedly infernalist verses are actually misinterpretations or mistranslations, such as in Matthew 25:46, where in the original Greek 'aionios' was used meaning age(finite length of time), but translation into Latin, for example, renders it 'aeternus'(eternity). The Latin Bible completely removes the disnction between aionios and aiodos, rendering both as aeternus(eternity).

>Show me where it says you can reject Christ and still go to heaven
Philippians 2:11, which is also commonly mistranslated, in the Greek it specifically says "every tongue shall gladly confess", employing the word exomolgestai, but in many English translations the word 'gladly' is dropped, removing the universalist connotations from the verse and replacing it with an interregative connotation.
>>220134240
>Christ literally spoke of the inferno more than anyone else in the Bible
Where?
>>220134280
>re-interpretation
You mean the original interpretation? Don't ask an AI such a question, it will just regurgitate other's incorrect answers.
>>220134326
Don't come to a discussion about Christianity and expect people not to quote Christian Saints.

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>>220134175
Sorry, I need to reply to you again
>s-s-samefa-
Yes.

>>220134532
I never said Basil was a universalist (his brother Saint Gregory was), I said that he remarked that universalists were the majority of Christians in his time.

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>>220123606
>Who wrote this?

>>220134587
>"no creature of God will fall out of the Kingdom of God
Fascinating. Which chapter and verse, please?

>>220134587
>Where?
If you cannot answer that, you haven't read it. Go read your scripture, son.

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>>220134569
Likewise. I've never met an actual universalist who wasn't just an athiest who liked to put a Christian skin over their eastern mystic beliefs. I'd wager that's this guy to a tee.

>>220134587
You're being misled. Stop this sunk cost fallacy nonsense you're doing

>>220134587
I noticed you didn't answer the question, so I'll ask again. Do you believe Jesus Christ died and rose from the dead?

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>>220134587
.

>>220134587
>don't ask AI. Don't look for sources just trust me bro
What is with you

>>220124591
This is my only problem, Eve and Mark have been dating for a while now before he left, they literally risked their lives for each other against conquest, like Mark isn’t some random dude she hated hooking up with they’re actually boyfriend/girlfriend status. Really weird that she decided to do that

>>220134652
If you want Bible verses, here:
“ Corinthians 15:22: For just as in Adam all die, so also in the Anointed [Christ] all will be given life.
”
Note, it doesn't say 'could', or 'might', or 'can', it says 'will' be given life. It's a promise.

“Titus 2:11: For the grace of God has appeared, giving salvation to all human beings …"

Not just Humans who believe, ALL Human beings, including those who disbelief.


“John 12:47:… for I came not that I might judge the cosmos, but that I might save the cosmos.”

“1 John 2:2: And he is atonement for our sins, and not only for ours, but for the whole cosmos."

Again, the whole cosmos, not just believers.

>>220127629
You didn't do anything wrong, most people have been intentionally programmed to get easily offended over innane shit regardless of context.
>>220127668
>>220133578
He's completely justified in saying nigger after the fact because they acted like bitch niggers, get over it faggots

>>220134828
I've noticed trolls and receivers in general get super pissed about people using AI because it completely undermines the effort they try to get other people to undertake. It's pretty funny.

>>220134851
None of those imply universalism. "All" can be taken to refer all who believe in Christ because every human being has the chance to believe in Him.

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>>220134710
Clear example of not to trust an AI, it will just regurgitate other's incorrect answers.

Aionios means age, not eternity, not everlasting, it's where the English word 'eon' comes from, and like the English word, it means a long period of time, but it does NOT mean eternity. Aidos means eternity in Greek. All the Greek speaking Church Fathers understood aionos as meaning age, not eternity.

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>>220134953
Do you believe Christ died and rose from the dead?

>>220134943
This is typical of how infernalists misinterpret the Bible, they take clear language, plain as day, like All, and add qualifers that don't exist in the verses, such as "all believers".
>>220134894
AI's use wikipedia and reddit for "sources", that's part of the reason why AI is so shit. Feed garbage to an AI, it will spit out garbage answers.

>>220134953
You should link whatever universalist propaganda website you're screenshotting so we can go through it and rip it apart.
But not before you answer this question.
>>220134999

>>220135024
>This is typical of how infernalists misinterpret the Bible, they take clear language, plain as day, like All, and add qualifers that don't exist in the verses, such as "all believers".
>unless you take the bible out of context and just read the passages word for word, you're twisting it.
Lol.

>>220124324
I don't have black friends

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>>220134999
>Do you believe Christ died and rose from the dead?
I do.

The new testament was written in the first century, so why are you using 21st century dictionaries with later meanints of the words to interpret those same words written in the 1st century, in a language that has changed significantly since then?

All of the Church Fathers understood aionios to mean age, not eternity

>>220135141
No — that claim is incorrect.

Early Christian authors (the Church Fathers) used the Greek word aionios in varied ways; many contexts clearly mean "eternal/everlasting," others mean "age-related" or "pertaining to an age." There is not a single uniform interpretation across all Fathers or across every context. Key points with examples
Used as "eternal/everlasting":
Ignatius of Antioch (early 2nd c.) uses aionios in ways that indicate final, unending life or punishment.
Irenaeus (late 2nd c.) and Tertullian (late 2nd–3rd c.) use aionios to mean everlasting, especially of God’s life and of punishment.
Used as "age/age-long":
Polycarp and some uses in patristic Greek sometimes refer to an age or limited period.
Some Fathers applied aionios to “the age to come” (eschatological era), which can be translated “age-long” or “pertaining to the age,” not always strictly unending duration.
Context matters: many Fathers distinguish between divine eternity (aidios/aion) and eschatological ages; some use aionios for the age to come in contrast with present age, which is temporal yet also has everlasting implications in soteriology or judgment.
Scholarly consensus: modern patristic scholarship emphasizes nuance — aionios had semantic range in Koine and patristic Greek. Determining whether a specific father meant “eternal” or “age-long” requires examining each passage in context and comparing theological usage.

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>>220135068
There is no infernalist context in the Bible
>>220135036
pic related, by a Bible scholar and a historian.

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>>220134851
- All [who are in Christ] will be made alive
- Salvation was brought to all people, both Jews and Gentiles. Provision is universal; reception is by faith
- The salvation is conditional; based on believing in Him. Read the whole chapter or better yet whole book not just 1 verse.
- In the actual context John meant that it did not only extend to him and his immediate congregation

>>220135024
Do you know what context means?
Do you understand why it's important to read a whole book or at least chapter and not just one single verse?

>>220135211
All of his quotes have been dependent of denial of context.

>>220126255
Lol yeah. Guess what? It's gonna happen again tomorrow, too.

>>220135182
>There is no infernalist context in the Bible
Christ literally refers to "the lake of fire"

>>220124876
the ritual makes women barren, not abort. There is no mention of a pregnancy, and that would not be overlooked. No, your interpretation of The Bible New Zoomer Edition(tm) is not correct.
Christ incarnated in the moment of conception, not when He was born. Cope and seethe.

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>>220134953
This is literally just a tumblr blog

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>>220126255
KEKKKKKKKKKKKK

>>220135294
>inb4 "No he doesn't, that was in revelation!"
Revelation's speaker is The Exalted Christ

>>220123719
Abortion should exclusively be legal for browns and jews

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>>220135024
It literally lists all the sources it used

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>>220135174
Stop posting AI regurgitations. You can't be sure half the content you copy pasted aren't just LLM hallucinations.

John of Chrysostom used aionios to refer to Satan's temporary reign in this world, do you rally think he meant that Satan's reign was eternal?

>>220135258
I have read the whole book, universalists such as Saints Clement, Isaac the Syrian, Gregory or Nyssa, Macrina, devoted most of their lives to studying the Bible and understanding its context, universalism was the conclusion they arrived at.

“Philippians 2:9–11: For which reason God also exalted him on high and graced him with the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bend—of beings heavenly and earthly and subterranean—and every tongue gladly confess that Jesus the Anointed is Lord, for the glory of God the Father.”

>>220135294
You mean the refiner's cruicible?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=4lHWv4zM7iA&list=WL&index=76&pp=iAQBsAgC

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>>220135422
It does not contain 'gladly' you are wrong

>>220135422
>Stop posting AI regurgitations. You can't be sure half the content you copy pasted aren't just LLM hallucinations.
Yes, much better to trust random "scholars" who defy scripture than an LLM which amalgamizes data towards consensus. Yes. Clearly.

>>220135422
>John of Chrysostom used aionios to refer to Satan's temporary reign in this world, do you rally think he meant that Satan's reign was eternal?
What you're replying to literally says aionios is context sensitive. Why would you believe I think it universally means "eternal"? Did you not read it?

>>220132634
what a stupid argument. Is it ok for poor families to kill their living children? If not you have to make the case the unborn child is lesser than the born one somehow.

>>220132063
gnostic slop

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>>220135517
The scholars don't defy scripture, they've studied the original Greek scripture, not the KJV, not the Latin Bible, and came to their universalist conclusions.
>>220135476
It does, even though the English translation in pic related is wrong, the Greek translation uses 'exomologesetai', which means 'gladly confess' or 'praise' in Greek. This is proof that you have to be careful which Bible translations you use.
>>220135594
Saint Clement of Alexandria wasn't a gnostic, he is also a revered saint in Eastern Orthodoxy, Catholicism, and most Protestsnt churches.

>>220135551
>Did you not read it?
Of course not.

>>220135551
In the 1st aionios mever meant eternity, before that, in all the Greek language, only Plato had used it to mean 'other worldly', and THAT was the only other meaning that Greek speakers in the 1st century attached to it, besides it's original meanint of 'age'.

'Eternity' probably became attached to 'aionios' only later on, through backwards flow from Latin translations of the Bible where the distinction between aionios and aiods(eternity) disappeared as both words were translated as 'aeternus'.

>>220135718
*in the 1st century
*aidos

>>220123606
One thing I've noticed about these threads is that redditors always try to portray opposition to mass abortion as exclusively Christian. I'm not a Christian and I think it's insanely clear that abortion-on-demand is a pillar of modern Feminism because the core goal of Feminist ideology is removing consequences for women.

There are plenty of Eastern scholars / Feng Shui practitioners / Dharmic types who will all tell you there are Karmic consequences for abortion and that Feminism is toxic. The Reddit atheist crowd just pretends that side doesn't exist because they don't have pre-made talking points to address them.

>>220124048
Glad I never read this filth, clearly the product of a very sick and demented mind. You people should be ashamed of watching, reading, or even talking about this coprophilic nonsense.

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>>220135628
?

>>220124977
> Per the parable of the Good Samaritan, my neighbor is the one who would help me if I were injured. My neighbor is not the person who wants to take advantage of my countrymen, rob, steal, invade, or replace.
Samaritans were literally considered an enemy religion that were trying to invade and replace Jews, you completely misunderstood the parable. Your neighbor is anyone in need of help, regardless of their background. You are supposed to extend your love to all, including the stranger and foreigner, not just who it’s most convenient, retard.
>”Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it”

>>220135628
evil is caused by lack of knowledge of the good is a one sentence summary of gnosticism. Quote mining one father to justify a doctrine that ISN'T taught by either EO, RC and most traditional Protestants is bottom of the barrel methodology.
>b-b-but he was a saint
But not every word he wrote was infallible or doctrine defining. Best you can do is make a case he was a historical witness to some Christians at one time being universalists. Don't be a sophist anon.

>>220135778
Did you take that parable to mean all Samaritan were the Jews' neighbors?

>>220126514
>Abortion is murder and the femoids who do it or even think about it are evil
>Also these people should be mothers to children they don’t want

Chud logic

The gift of salvation is offered to everyone and is never forced on anyone. An illiterate abo can in theory find Christ and salvation without being told about the Bible but guidance makes it much easier.
Arguing about concepts like universalism turn meaning/Logos into legalistic arguments.

>>220135776
Please stop using AI, it's giving you garbage.

“Again, in koine the typical use was of a willing confession made gladly. Lexica are often uselessly vague; simply consult the general usage in as many texts as you can. You will find no occasion of it that does not involve an acclamation or personal pledge of eager acceptance. It would fit such formulae as “I gladly assume this responsibility” or “I with full will and freedom proclaim my loyalty.”

“And the context from Isaiah is sufficiently clear: שבע always means an act of acclamation, never a forced act of submission. It is an “oath” only in the sense that it is sometimes used as a term for a glad profession of loyalty, like “long live the king!”

“The issue has been dealt with by others. It is simply not a word ever used to mean mere admission of a fact, much less unwilling surrender. Check out its uses, for instance, in Josephus and Philostratus.
“And in fact EVERY credible NT scholar knows thus. Whoever your critics are, they are frauds.

>>220135822
I've literally never read gnostic texts.

Eastern Orthodoxy has no doctrinal position on universalism.

>>220135748
it might be pretending, but may be genuine ignorance as well. i have no basis for this, but i reckon your average reddit atheist's world was originally christian to begin with, growing up in a christian household and rebelling against it, so it's all they know

>>220135832
Can you read? In response to a lawyer asking "who is my neighbor?", Jesus explains that a neighbor is not limited to family, friends, or one’s own community, but includes even enemies or strangers. Sorry, Christ said you can’t hate niggers for being niggers.

>>220135877
>I've literally never read gnostic texts.
so?
>Eastern Orthodoxy has no doctrinal position on universalism.
but it has a position on eternal separation from God. The other ones have explicit positions rejecting universalism, so you ignore them. I guess 90% of Christendom is wrong and your personal reading of Clement is the correct true Christianity.

>>220135877
It doesn't contain 'gladly' no amount of pasting from blog posts will change that

>>220135920
I can love bears while still having the sense not to keep wild bears in my house. Segregating from murderous animals is not hate.

>>220135877
And what does a Hebrew word in a seperate book have to do with Phillipians 2:11 and ἐξομολογήσηται?

>>220123832
And Mark cucked Eve with an actual kid so whos got it worse

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>>220124048
Good

I purposely avoided this thread until now.

How do pro-life people justify the existence of people born out of the wombs of women who’ve had previous abortions? They would not exist without this prior sacrifice.

>>220123606
>NOOOOOOOO! NOT THE HECKIN' IMAGINARY BABY! OH MY REDDIT!

Did anyone else laugh like an idiot when Eve got her fucking face caved in

>>220136270
for
>>220136216

>>220125462
But sacrifing children to yahweh was ok.

>>220136270
for >>220135877

Christ what a stupid fucking thread.

>>220136216
We could have ended this thread a lot fucking sooner had you posted this earlier you fucking faggot

>>220136355
>>220136381
Go fuck yourself m8

>>220136355
this
>>220136381
this
>>220136401
this

>>220136216
Why would it be relevant retard?
If a murderer has a baby in prison that wouldn't have happened if she didn't murder that makes her not a murderer anymore?

>>220136468
Wow you are fucking warped. He must have mind broken your ass.

>>220136498
>can't even pretend to be able to put together a coherent thought
foid confirmed

>>220136216
This is why I don’t lean either way. If you have sex on a Tuesday instead of a Wednesday you technically just had a retroactive abortion.

>>220136523
beyond braindead

>>220136523
What about the trillions of sperm I've genocided to porn. What is that called.

>>220136573
When sperm cell #1847476362 wins the race over sperm cell #1847476361 (and all the other ones that didn’t make it let’s not kid ourselves here) this is an abortion

>>220136588
Millions upon millions of hypothetical people just died. Everyone alive right now is a statistical, cosmic miracle. Even Hitler.

Procreation is cosmic horror.

When you break up with your girlfriend you just had a retroactive abortion. You would have had a kid with her otherwise.

>>220136641
I don’t like thinking the way you do. It’s awful. You must lead an awful existence if you see everything as odds and ends.

>>220136744
He was one number away from being Satan I wouldn’t trust him

>>220136588
Sperm only have half the chromosomes (23) needed to make a child. They also can't feel pain. Just watch some videos of abortions past the 12 week range and you'll see the fetus / unborn baby spastically moving as it's cut apart with forceps. It's frankly quite disturbing.

>>220136775
Two numbers away from being God now? Is this some sort of sick cosmic joke?

>>220136839
“But if I take it out of the oven before it dings……”

Is cake batter alive anon?

>>220136839
>Just watch some videos of abortions past the 12 week range and you'll see the fetus / unborn baby spastically moving as it's cut apart with forceps.
i spastically moved around while the doctors sawed my foreskin off.

>>220136876
You're being facetious and unserious. It's clear what I'm arguing.

>>220127078
This unironically explains why liberal simp men exist. These dudes unironically think worshipping women and being doormats will get them laid.

My wife is pro choice and I'm against abortion. I still fuck her weekly and she knows I would beat her if she aborted our child.

>>220136924
I'm a European, we don't do that in my country. I imagine the Jews pushed it in America because they wanted to blend in.

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>>220123606
>Choosing the fat feminist over the space tomboy who has loyally followed the orders given to her by her leader.

>>220136975
Also not an American but I think it's finally starting to stop. The great noticing surely helps as well

>>220136940
>It's clear what I'm arguing.
No it’s not clear. Also you need to shut the fuck up.

>>220135778
Two jews literally walked by the injured man. If they weren't the man's neighbors, then the entire Samaritan nation is unlikely to be the neighbor. It could be shockingly that a neighbor is one who acts neighborly.

>>220136612
Every planck time interval you decide not to impregnate a woman is abortion.

>>220137638
Precisely.

>>220137171
>Also you need to shut the fuck up
Why do redditors think 'STFU!' is an argument? It's obvious the anon you are debating is saying that sperm and fetuses are different. That's true. Sperm cant grow into a human. It's not a complete dna code and it doesnt feel pain.

I'm okay with abortion for stuff like ectopic pregnancies but I dont like the attitude I see from most "pro-choicers." It's just reddit nihilism and atheism plus sarcasm. You guys are mad at the fundamentalists but then engage in the same black and white thinking, you just cover it up with hipster posturing.