>no police in sight for the rest of your life>approximately 2000 women in hypersleep for you to choose>he only wakes up one boss babe in her late 20sS-sure....
>>220127165It really should have been a horror movie where she finds out he's been awake for years and she's actually the seventh or eighth woman he's awoken.
>>220127279Yeah going from love flick to horror where she finds other womens cloths or something. Would have been kino
>>220127165>in her late 20sh-ha y-yeah I would do the same. no way I would go for younger!
>>220127349And finds out he's not even the dude he says he is. He's an accidental stowaway and his first victim was the actual Chris Pratt technician guy. He woke him up to try and take his place in the cryo pod or turn the ship around or something.
It's funny how you guys will come up with the most incel comments imaginable and don't see how it makes you look stupid.
>>220127511shut up roastie
>>220127349No, after he seduces her and they start dating, one night she wants to surprise him and goes to his room and finds him talking with faceless propped up naked corpses while having tea, wearing some woman's face and doing a British accent.>Yes, my dear, that is quite extraordinary. Indeed.Then another night she finds recordings of him watching her while she sleeps and drawing flies on the screen>You're a dirty, dirty whore! Look at you, woman, surrounded by insects, go wash your cunt!
>>220127883>>220127349>>220127279>>220127476holy guacamole we need to make this happen reddit someone call Spielberg
>>220127511how is the weather in Moscow
>>220128152You got any better ideas, bitch?
>>220127165So what should he do according to you? Rape and murder them? Not everyone is an incel psychopath, OP.
>>220127165Wasn't it implied they never procreated?
>>220127511Butthole
>>220128272Wouldn't the ship have been overrun with their inbred descendants once it finally got to their destination if they had procreated?
>OP: "It might've been interesting if this movie's plot went in a different direction.">Other people: "You fucking incel."How do you people even function in daily life?
>>220127279Or he's convinced multiple women that parts of the ship got vaccuumed so they can't leave, but he's got families all over different parts of the ship
>>220127511Peeped poopoo (we have both contributed equally to this thread)
>>220128266Why not?
>>220127165>>he only wakes up one boss babe in her late 20she knows she has a butthole
>>220128332The exact reason the movie flopped. It came out during peak feminist metoo scam hysteria. They labeled the movie problematic because he woke her up.
>>220127165>Me searching the database for Ensign Sarah Draper
>>220127165If he was the kind of guy who would make the monstrous choice to strand more than one person in the same shitty situation he's been forced into, then there is no moral dilemma at the core of the story. As spelled out rather on the nose in the third act, the drowning man will always reach for someone to save him, but it's not interesting or reasonable if he's 'killing' multiples. Of course, there's always the dumb "It should have been a horror film" from Auroras perspective, but that's just dragging out the "What would it take for a good person to make a monstrous choice" dilemma that the film already deals with in the first act into being all the film is. As the film is, the 3 acts explore desperation and loneliness in the first, regret and deceit in the second, understanding and forgiveness in the third. To me, that's a better film than just a cheap horror twist that only explores desperation.
>>220128726But he was never in any danger, he was never "drowning". He was just a sociopath.
>>220128554It's more that they labeled it problematic because they gave him very understandable reasons for waking her up, and showed the reasonableness of the choice instead of the film treating him like a horror villain.
>>220128771His choice was suicide or waking her up, did you somehow miss that? If death isn't danger, then what is?
>>220128817>If death isn't dangerIt isn't when it's made up. He's never in any real danger.>His choice was suicide or waking her upHis choice was not being a pussy and not ruining other people's lives.
he had a serious case of butthole fever
>>220128771did you not watch the movie or are you just retarded?
>>220127165I wonder how well I'd cope in this situation.I think not having access to the internet would suck.
>>220128726well said. the movie was good as is and i liked it.people who think hate it are just ideologues who cant appreciate the nuances of art
>>220128870Did you watch the movie? The ship was undergoing catastrophic failure. The fix was a 2 person job. Well 3 if you add Morpheus.
>>220128726Based.The horror idea is in the middle of the bell curve.You are at one end, and then all the "I had fun" peeps are at the other.
>>220128870What does "When it's made up" mean? Are addictions just made up because it's an internal problem, not an external one? I agree that if he was a better person, he would have just killed himself instead of making the choice to inflict the same situation onto another, but the film is about exploring a regular man, who has a need to socialize and be with other people, who cannot deal with total isolation, pushed to make the choice between death or waking up another. That's what makes him drowning, it's picking between killing himself through suicide, or dragging another person with them. Those are his choices, death or waking her up.
>>220128726The movie is an apt allegory for how women would rather men die alone than ever empathize with them.
>>220129003>That's what makes him drowning, it's picking between killing himself through suicide, or dragging another person with them. Those are his choices, death or waking her up.He makes the wrong choice because he's a weak, immoral piece of garbage. Tons of men could withstand the loneliness and even become better men in the process. He doesn't because he never found God. A literal subhuman bugtoid.
>>220129003>What does "When it's made up" mean?Because death is not coming for him, never. And even if it were, why the FUCK would you ruin another person's life? Even if death literally showed up and said "you either wake up that woman or you're coming with me", a real man would pick the latter. As this wasn't the case, and this "death" was never coming and he could have done a million other things to pass the time it only makes him more pathetic.>push yourself to suicide>oh shit, death is coming for me, what do I do now??????
>>220129078>He makes the wrong choiceYes, exactly. Because he is drowning. He is not a saint, he's a man with flaws and wants and needs put in a horrible situation. Some men have indeed found themselves in total isolation and dealt with it for years on end, but guess what, those men also didn't have the choice of ending their isolation dangling as temptation right in front of them the entire time. The film explores making a monstrous choice through first showing what lead to the choice, then the consequences and finally resolution of that choice. The film isn't justifying the choice, or making Jim out to be a role model, he's just an average normal dude forced to pick between death or stranding someone else.
>>220128954he didnt wake her up for that, he woke her up because of the real pain of loneliness. which is much more profound than just a physically dangerous situationi totally empathise with the guy. how many people today commit suicide out of loneliness and despair? and to feel like you have an easy way out, by one simple moral transgression, how many countless people through out history have made that deal? sure it was wrong, but its a human mistake that countless have madeand he redeems himself at the end by offering her the pod WHICH SHE CHOOSES NOT TO TAKEits her choice at the endthe only reason people hate this movie is because they've been blinded by ideologically and lack the ability to empathize
>>220129029this
>>220129170The film spends most of the first act showing everything he does to try to pass the time. His isolation puts him in the situation where he realizes he can't go on as is. So his choice is death or waking Aurora up. Guess what, the film, me, almost everyone agrees that was he a better man, a role model, he would have just killed himself instead of waking her up. Do you expect every character in every film to be morally perfect, to not have personal flaws and sins?
>>220129256>he would have just killed himself instead of waking her up.There's a third choice, nigger, that's what you don't get.
>>220129303If you think just living on the ship alone is the third choice, bitch the film spells it out that's not an option for him. He's on the brink of committing suicide, just inches from pressing the button, because he can't go on. Fear of dying overwhelms him, runs from the button and trips on the bottle and sees his other option, waking her up. Had he not tripped on that bottle, he would have been back at that button the next night, the night after that, every night until the pain of loneliness would overcome his fear of death. But by all means, what is his third choice if not what I thought you were thinking?
>>220129197>>220128726No people, there is nothing sympathetic about him. Loneliness is no more of an excuse to murder someone than your local Dindu Nuffins have to murder a bodega owner due to slavery. It's an excuse. He did a horrible act of murder out "muh feelings". He wasn't sympathetic. No men wanted to place themselves in his position. And the "chemistry" or lack thereof, that happened later was absent or forced. You didn't like him. And he wasn't even an interesting sociopath like Patrick Bateman whom you knew was the bad guy and his wild antics made him attracting.
>>220129078>He makes the wrong choiceyes, thats how fiction works you dumb fuck. characters make wrong choices, then are forced to faces the consequences of those choices
>>220128784The funny thing is we all know women wouldnt even blink twice and wake up a mechanic. Like they wouldn't even feel bad about it. They would "demand" ro be saved. And not even thr audience would fault a women for waking up somwone to save her.
>>220129459Who do you see excusing his choice or saying it was morally justified or that he was sympathetic? The two you quote explicitly says he made an evil choice, that he was wrong to wake her up. The film is about a normal man driven to make a monstrous choice, and then if there is anything at all he can do to make up for that choice.
>>220128256Not sure he was sarcastic.
>>220128266If someone did that, waking a young woman, rape her until he's sick of her and then murder her, but introduces each one to the robot bartender, would the robot's programming ever end up trying to stop him? Or would the robot go along with it each time as long as Jim told him to do so?
>>220129548Yes friend, but they PUSHED a romance, chemistry (non existent), a love story, and it was vomit inducing. They wanted you to linger in it and you couldn't because you hated him.
>>220129459fiction just isnt for you, foid.go back to reading one of the endless romantasy slop books you girls goon too
>>220128784All of that plus the woman becoming ok with it in the end. Even though everyone on the ship would have died had him and the deck chief, plus someone to help, not been woken up, the movie outcome was still considered worse than thousands of deaths.
>>220129639Yeah i remember critics being mad that she "forgave that monster ". Lol. It was peak feminism back then. They labeled the writers toxic misogynistic that wrote a woman to fall in love with her abuser.
>>220129633>I'm just going to insult you.*Yawn* Fuck off bro. Honestly, every convo on this shithouse degrades into a shit-sling back and forth. Learn to discuss, even if it's heated, just discuss. If not just hide the post. There's no resolution with your troll farms.
>>220129604>but they PUSHED a romance, chemistry (non existent), a love storythis is the only valid critizism you've raised. it isnt a light hearted rom com, and if you went in expecting it to be you'd have a very negative view
>>220129604I think you need to go watch the film again because you clearly missed out on all the nuance. The second act does not play out like a lovey dovey cheesy romantic comedy, it does not justify Jim's choice to wake her up. The film shows Jim immediately regretting the choice, it shows his hesitancy to go near her, to approach her, to respond to any of the signals she sends that she wants him to ask her out. And the entire time, there is the looming weight of their isolation and inevitable death on the ship hanging above them. They are not happy, they do not look towards a bright future together, they are simply stuck together. What the second act does is make Jim a better man so in the third act when the story asks him to make the sacrifice for others, like he couldn't bring himself to do in act 1, he does so without hesitation and without regret.
these films are rated 15 (R/whatever), right?it's so weird we're on this dark, psychological reality kick (everything wants to be Black Mirror) and yet we deny basic reality. as though the audience are children.look at a film like Straw Dogs. it feels like it's made for adults, but it's incredibly straightforward. then take Hollywood High Concept Sci-Fi Horror #3491. everyone's jolly gung-ho pals, with maybe one guy who's secretly evil or a traitor, but in a moustache-twirling way.in fact, the phrase i'm avoiding is everyone acts 'like a movie' but why? movies don't HAVE to be this way. look at, say, Being John Malkovich: a dyke would totally use JM's body to rape a straight woman. duh.is everything just Marvel movies for adults now...? don't give me some Twitter post about how I'M watching 'shounen', i want movies themselves to be better.
>>220127279>>220127349>this love story about two white people falling in love during a hopeless situation should actually be about how white men are predators and le evil
>>220129927Look at this thread. Zoomers can't into hypothetical situations because they don't confront moral dilemas in the real world, they just sit behind a screen and judge others. They can just say "I would do the right thing and you're an evil nazi if you disagree" because nothing ever happens in their life that challenges them
>>220127165>boss babe
>>220129029huh at least they are showing us their buttholes
>>220127165He needed that butthole
>>220129029Case in point>>220128771
Based, trad and redpilled movie.
You're lonely, better wake up a 10/10 and marry her.
>>220127165fun fact: chris fell in love with jennifer while shooting this film. his wife knew and divorced him. he couldn't even hide it. poor guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETpiA8ych30
>>220129416>But by all means, what is his third choice if not what I thought you were thinking?Killing everyone on board, then send missiles back to Earth and every other ship to kill everyone else. I'd be the last living being, alone with God, and I'd BECOME God, and by becoming Him, I'd return to the source. One with the universe.
I mean some of them have to make it to the new planet OP
>>220127279There definitely should have been a twist. The movie felt empty. A double twist would have been even better>Guy is the villain for waking her up>Revealed she's not the first he's woken up>She breaks into the cockpit finally out of desperation to escape him>It's revealed the planet they are going to has been destroyed and everyone on the ship is doomed. Not enough supplies to wake everyone up.>Accepts her place by Pratt's side as a willing hostage>Kills him in his sleep>She becomes the predator. Movie ends with her waking up someone
Movie's an allegory for the creation of men. Man was not made to be alone, so God created woman. This was made clear when you saw he felt lonely no matter the entertainment and he craved for female company.
