The man, the myth, the legend.
>>220138017He may seem like one of the good ones but he still hijacked the show
Is this the most a show has ever been derailed by a new character's popularity?
>>220138017Why isn't Carl respected as the Ideal Black Dad the way Uncle Phil is?
I never watched the show but I assume he was the main character
>>220138017STÉPHANE URQUELLÉ
>>220138129It's very "Homer was the main character of The Simpsons until Bart was"
>>220138116He was a cop.
what the title of the show meant to be read as "Family Matters" as in matters relating to a family or "Family Matters" as in family is something that matters?
>>220138184Yes.
>>220138116Carl spends most of the show going on wacky Urkel adventures with an otherwise normal, usually well behaved familyUncle Phil had to go upside Will Smith's delinquent head more often than not
>>220138184yeah, the bigger love of the family
>>220138182When I was a kid I 100% assumed that Family Matters was a sequel to Die HardAs an adult I'm still pretty sure this is true, that Carl drove home from helping Bruce Willis throw a bunch of Europeans off a skyscraper and ended up having to deal with Urkel
>>220138184It kind of lost its meaning around the Bruce Lee clone episode
>>220138265wolfen morgue assistant to crocodile dundee limo driver to ghostbusters prison guard to die hard cop to perfect strangers/family matters carl winslow and finally detective turner and hooch
Now that the dust has settled did he really do that?
>>220138629He did deface the locker.
Yes, I too love Sonic the Hedgehog.
>>220138653For me its Blackapella
>"Hello. My name is Carl Otis Winslow.">"...er, yes. The initials do spell 'C.O.W.'Never forgot that joke.
>>220138265How does his brief appearance as a cop in Ghostbusters fit into the carl Winslow universe?
>>220138017I never watched to the very end. Did anyone ever figure out whether he did that?
>>2201390343 2 11 2 3What the heckIs bothering me?>the mantra Carl's cardiologist suggested to him to manage anger after his heart attack
Honestly without Urkel the show would have failed. The first season is just so fucking boring and drab. There's literally an episode where Laura sells a quilt and the grandma gets mad because it was a family heirloom. Urkel transformed the show into something wild and fun. Yeah, they went completely off the rails in later seasons with the robots and transformation chamber and time travel, but people loved it because it was fun.
Do the ur-ur-ur-ur-ur-ur-ur-urkel
For a show called "Family Matters", family doesn't seem to much matter.A daughter got retconned off the show entirely without explanation on screen, and off screen the reason given was "not enough material to go around".Which is odd because a cousin (Richie), and an adopted son (3J) got all sorts of material to work with.A grandmother (Estelle) got written out of the show.An aunt/sister (Rachel) got written out of the show.The star of the show, who literally got the show written into existence because of being so loved from a previous show (Harriette Winslow from Perfect Strangers) had to be recast because the actress couldn't handle another actor in her own show doing what she did (Jaleel White).A lot of screen time was given to characters that weren't family members (Urkel, Myra, Geraldo, 3J).It was a weird show.
>>220138184It meant urkel flew on a jet pack from Chicago to San Francisco and landed at the house of Danny Tanner
>>220140197>oddTheres a limited finite amount of material they can write and they spread it too thin as many shows do. richie was the obvious choice, the aunt rachel was necessary. estelle actress was very unhealthy. hariette was recast a few episodes before the finale, she should have just been left out.Waldo was kino, Myra was amazing (rip), 3J was a really fucking weird choice but again very late in the series after everyone else was getting out. Finite material.
>>220140197Yeah, no one believes this show was a Perfect Strangers spinoff now. Not many people remember or care about Perfect Strangers I guess. And when you bring up Urkel hijacking the show everyone assumes it was supposed to be around Carl, not Harriette.
>>220140700some movie? or tv show brought about a perfect strangers resurgence a while back because of its amazing theme song iirc.
He's unironically perfect for Sonic
>>220140765Because he finally got way past Carl
>>220140700Perfect strangers was the original anchor show for TGIF it was really popular
Actually, yes.
>>220138017You think he still gets mad white pussy by going around saying he was Urkel, or being recognized as Urkel?
>>220140960i imagine he went full stephan off camera and just got pussy that way
>>220140960Jaleel white is a black nationalist
>>220141048Thank God
>>220138221Nah, Carl butted heads with Eddie a lot. I remember Eddie constantly stayed grounded.
>>220141048And yet he's married to a white woman.
>>220141188Yeah it's weird as fuck. A lot of "pro blacks" end up marrying white people.
>>220141265Jaleel White isn't a black nationalist.
>>220140628They could have had an Estelle funeral and the fallout from that, as seen from a very inner circle family oriented point of view. See how each family member deals with loss and grief, and how each family member helps each other family member. That would be a "matter" (event) that would "matter" (of great importance).Laura could have had a pregnancy scare. Eddie could have had gang issues. Carl could have gone undercover. Harriette could have gone back to school. There were a lot of social and political issues of the time that just seemed to get glossed over or entirely ignored that would have been interesting to see unfold through the lens of this specific family unit.How would they handle black panthers? Gentrification? Kwanzaa? Juneteenth? OJ? Bloods vs Krips? East vs West?
>>220140700"cop" is more universal than "elevator operator", is probably why.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jyve1U-gQ3I
>>220141602Being shot at by roof Koreans?
>>220141872cosby show dealt with the LA riots personally, the finale was airing when it happened iirc.
>>220140700Perfect Strangers was one of the biggest shows of its time and my personal favorite.
>>220141602>WHY DIDN'T THEY DO MORE SOCIAL ISSUES??? HOW DARE YOU JUST TRY TO MAKE PEOPLE LAUGHholy kys jew
>>220141602>Eddie could have had gang issuesHe did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku5mIiNKQ3U
>>220141872George Floyd
>>220141966Both.Faggot.
>>220142088Situational Comedies shouldn't be Situational Black People Problem Lecture Documentariesyou kike jew faggots had All in the Family, that was enough of your trash we needed
>>220142121I never said lecture. But for a show about the day to day goings on in a black family household, stories could have been more sophisticated than Carl forgets it's Valentine's Day and tries to pass off an old card as a new card.I didn't have a problem with black Urkel being bullied by white jocks for not being able to climb a rope, and it was fun that he got to the top with a jetpack. A thing can be funny and a teachable moment at the same time. It doesn't have to be a soapbox. And comedies can do drama. The very first exposure I ever had to the word "nigger" was this show. It was very teachable, poignant, and entirely on-brand and the show handled it perfectly.Will Smith gets mugged and shot and Carlton buys a gun in Fresh Prince and no one bat's an eye. But suggest Urkel show go beyond the basic ha-ha's, and the fags call you a jew.
>>220142219shut the fuck up kike jewyou were ordered to kysfucking kike
>>220138017Has there ever been another case of a characters popularity entirely taking over a show?
>>220142359
Seriously, though...How do you defeat him?
>>220142301looks like don most's kid or something
>>220142359Dukat on DS9Helo on BSGVegeta on DBZJoey on FriendsSheldon on TBBT
>>220138017The later seasons where he was absolutely jacked and they had to hide it by making him slouch and wear baggy clothes was hilarious
>>220142241Clearly I hit a nerve, fag.
Would this really work?
>>220142365Mike LITERALLY took over the show, though. It was always the comradery of the trio and the melodrama and insanity that held the glue and heart of the show together, but that was all through Mike Clattenburg. After he left, Smith began writing and the humour became more crass focusing on the word "cock" and how many different variety of ways it can be incorporated into an insult and the focus of the show became around Bubbles always being the smartest and reasonable and always right one while his voice became hoarser, his movements and mannerisms became more erratic and he just got more fucking annoying.Jaleel White claimed he had to fight constantly with the writers.
>>220142494>clearly i'm an evil kikeno shit???? you don't say???
>>220142479He was a 12 year old nobody getting paid scale during his first appearance.He was a 21 year old world famous gigachad getting paid more than every other cast member during his last appearance.Puberty, wealth, being able to afford good food and having an active sex and social life will do that.
>>220142514Jenna Ortega claims to have done similar on Wednesday, itself a spin-off/takeover of an Addam's Family IP. She wrote her own lines and such.Uncle Fester was the clear standout though.
>>220138184It's meant to be read both ways, as a "joke", but family matters as in matters relating to the family was already a phrase people used.
>>220138017>gets magic numbers>Did iiiiii do thaaaat?
>>220142513>a machine that alters one's DNA to make them less autistic and more chad>Steve goes from a hopeless, cheese eating geek permavirgin into a smooth talking and handsome Stefan Urkelle; a charismatic, good-looking version of Steve with a fantastic dress sense>the girl he has been pining and lusting after for years becomes IMMEDIATELY panty soaked infatuated with him>later perfects the machine to give him martial arts abilities to fight a bunch of criminals.Literally every 4chan posters dream contraption. Of COURSE Steve was the first to invent it.
>>220142859Isn't Steve cucking himself though? Does Steve have Stefan's memories to at least jerk off to?
>>220141602You're listing what every goddamn other mother fucking show on TV was doing you weird fuck cunt
>>220142859>>220142884later stefan got independence and turned against steve and the family, you never can trust superscience anon
>Carl Winslow’s actor has never married or has any kidsI’d thought he’d have grandkids by now
>>220142900They were supposed to merge and reintegrate into one person who Laura would marry. The final season was kind of a rush job.
>>220141265she is just looking for a man she can dominate.
>>220142514He was really a breakout when he was in Chernobyl, though
>>220142909Even great grandkids by now. He's 73.
>>220143046Because. He's. A. Homo. Sexual, anon.
>>220138017I tried torrenting this show but found a lot of incest porn instead. Same thing with All in the Family.
>>220141048>>220141188Marrying white woman is part of black nationalism.
>>220138017I give Family Matters, Denzel, Morgan Freeman and Bad Boys as examples when libs try to falsely claim that "woke" just means anything with blacks.
>>220138017Any modern remake would just be called "Matters."
>that episode where urkel tries to solve gun violence in school by collecting them with a giant magnet but they all go off at the same time and 58 people die
