Well? Is it true ?
>>220141262Vegeta was worse until he became better
>>220141262I don't know who the character on the right is but I've seen him everywhere for my entire life and he always looks like he wants to rape someone.
browns can easily self insert in vegeta because he's a manlet lmao
>>220141262Not a single character in that universe gives a shit about Vegeta genociding billions, so the audience doesn't really care either. You can't say the same for Nolan; he catches strays from everyone for killing innocents, and they rub it in his face every chance they get.
>>220141262Dragon Ball is not known for its story. It has cool fights and that's about it.
back in the 80s and 90s entertainment was more about having fun rather than being constantly patronized about muh morals
DBZ isnt that serious. It comparing the ethics of bugs bunny to brothers Karamazov. Not to say Invincibles is the better show because it isn't
Vegeta doesn't pretend to be a good guy, he still knows he is going to hell after it's all done but it doesn't stop him from doing good.
>>220141262One of these is a show for 13 year old boys.The other is for adults that never matured past the age of 13.
>>220141262Vegetable definitely never got criticized except when Tien points it out
Goku killed many innocents, but those kills don't count against him.
Never watched Invincible. Vegeta is a living punchline though
>>220141262>manlet dodges criticismno way
>>220141262I do find it weird that no one has ever held Vegeta accountable for that. Not Goku or Bulma. The only one that remembers is Tien. Nolan on the other hand he kinda made it very explicit that he fucked up
>>220141262dbz is a series where at the end of every season they use the magic wish dragon to bring everyone who died back to lifeafter goku dies the biggest difference in his life is that he has a halodbz is not meant to be taken as a serious show for grownups
>>220141334Same here, one time I looked up dbz lore while I was drunk and it turns out there were like 5 different guys I thought were the same character
>>220141262Does Tien count ?
>>220141754>retard with brain damage is happy to have a sparring partner>Bulma is a gigaslut that wants murderchad as long as it isn't her problem actually in character for them to not care much
>>220141262people in dragonball don't really die though
>>220141334He’s actually getting raped, both figuratively and literally.
>>220141262Vegeta never sold himself off as a hero to mankind, initially.Nor did he actually do any large scale destruction to the planet or its people. That was Nappa. Vegeta never sided with the destroyer of his people. He has always been against Freeza.
>>220141669Innocents? Are you sure?
>>220141505>. It has cool fights and that's about it.And tons of porn of the exactly 3 female characters in it
>>220141262>dbz for cucks>anime superman for everyone else
>>220142065There’s more than three.
>>220141595ZING
>>220141262Best part about Dragon Ball is that Akira was actively sabotaging the story with each ending (not actually an arc)He tried to write the story in such a way that it would be too retarded and ridiculous to continue, but they kept showing up with more money. Then he accepted to keep it going. Had enough and tried to end it again. Another truck full of money shows up etc.He admitted all of this later in an interview.That's why Goku explodes on Namen for example or why Goku has superman's origin story when he's grown up, but there's not even the slightest hint of any of that beforehand.He always said that he hated working and also did everything last minute. Explains all the haphazard storylines >Quick! We need a story!>Toriyama: huh? Shit, it's that time again, let's just copy Superman, phew
Can we just acknowledge that DBZ isn't any good? I still have some nostalgia for the original Dragon Ball, because I watched it as a kid, but DBZ is basically just the MCU, but Japanese. A bunch of goofy himbos hanging out, dealing with their nagging wifes and occasionally beating up some evil alien overlord, or each other, to save the world but also, no one ever really dies because plot device.Like, you might enjoy it, but it's not good.
Beerus annihilates planets and never really became 'good' and still no one gives a shit
>>220142134The manga is great, but the anime was always unwatchable trash in my opinion. Also terrible animation. I was hoping to see cool action, but the low framerate and horrific animation ruined it. Manga is still better
>>220141262The reason is because Vegeta gets humbled literally in his first appearance.These stories are just different. In DBZ we know Goku will win in the end so Vegeta isn't a real threat.
>>220142174Are you talking about Invincible or DBZ?
>>220142193>Vegeta gets humbled literally in his first appearance.>Shows up >His henchman blows up a city >they kill most of the good guys >"humbled", because the main character defeats him after a long battle Okay, retard
>>220142215>Invincible is a manga and anime Yeah, mongoloid.
>>220142262Comic, cartoon. Mango, animu. Potato, tomato. It's all the same difference.
https://imgur.com/gallery/buttlord-gt-9XvvjGet over yourselves fagballs
Dbz is kino invincible is capeshit for gay redditors Simple as
>>220141334He is the one who gets raped
>>220141262In DragonBall Death isn't really permanent and the after life is confirmed as real and nice so killing people isn't that bad
>Bulma has a crush for Zarbon>Vegeta murders Zarbon in front of her>Suddenly Bulma wants Vegeta's cockWhat's wrong with women!?
>>220143362You are brown
>>220142134>Can we just acknowledge that DBZ isn't any good?No.>but DBZ is basically just the MCU, but Japanese.You didn't watch either of those two things.
>>220141262Nolan does actually have a worse rap sheet.Vegeta doesn't kill any humans until the Buu arc (Nappa was the one killing people), where he destroys an audience stand.Nolan kills thousands very brutally, like that train with his own son's face.
>>220141334Sounds like you need your dose
>>220141262Vegeta was an asshole from the beginning and never pretended otherwise. He also never sought forgiveness from the people he hurt, just slowly accepted that he was wrong and became a hero after getting humbled and learning to love other people. Omni Man deceived his family, an entire planet and his best friends, which he personally murdered, and then tried to come back and pretend everything was normal and expected his wife to take him back and his old allies to accept him. In the end, Vegeta accepts that he is a monster and is going to hell in the Buu saga, and throws away the last thing he has, his pride, to try and save the Earth and his family by fusing with Goku. Omni Man refuses to accept the pain he caused because in his mind he made up for it by helping to defeat the Viltrumites, and is upset when others don't forgive him.
>>220142237he gets his penis cut off
>>220143800>Vegeta doesn't kill any humans until the Buu arcat the very least he's directly responsible for yamcha but i'd also attribute any of nappa's deaths to him since that was his subordinate and he was giving orders or giving the okay to carry out the killings.
>>220142193>The reason is because Vegeta gets humbled literally in his first appearance.his first appearance is on the grasshopper planet with nappa where they kill and eat the bugs
>>220141262Omni Man becomes a king, emotionally grows and doesn't relapseBejita stays a jobber
0-3 Gokucks
>>220143997Another thing Invincible stole from DBZ, hot bug women
>>220143963>He also never sought forgiveness from the people he hurthe was written being "too proud" for apologies even though he did apologize to gohan during the cell fight.but his actions like when he was dead/naked ghost on namek begging goku to avenge the saiyans showed there were things he valued more than his pride
>>220141595which one is which?*buh-dum-tisss*
Everyone shits on Vegeta
>>220141754the manga (kinda) does, he apologizes to some namekians for the shit he did in one of the newer super arc's.
>>220141262Vegeta was even worse as he enjoyed the death and destruction he caused
>>220141334rape a dick with his butt
>>220141262Because in the Invincible universe death is permanent, in the DBZ universe it's just a minor inconvenience.
>>220141262>grossly overlooking the magic wishing dragon that brings everyone back>grossly overlooking the fact vegeta died
>>220142134>but DBZ is basically just the MCU, but Japanese.either your trolling, retarded or you didn't watch DBZ.
>>220144150Plus vegeta didn't really kill all that many people on screen (canonically, bug planet is filler shit)
>>220141262Yes its true. They are both shit franchises.
>>220141262Vegeta didn't have an 8 minute long scene where he groveled and begged Bulma for an apology.
>>220141262Vegeta didn't kill anyone. Didn't you see their parachutes? They're okay.
>>220144174those were bugs, not people
>>220142065There's bulma and the robot, who's 3
>>220144225the comics are so much better
>>220144135princess of all Saiyans>>220144225nah just one where he grovels and begs Kakarot to kill Frieza for him after he gets aprebroken
>>220141754>everyone conveniently forgetting about the dragon balls that give its name to the series...dragon ballNigga, dying and genocide is a minor issue. No one gives Vegeta shit for it because everyone was resurrected.
>>220144225he gets humiliated in other ways
>>220144300>>220144274And despite all that he's still magnitudes less embarrassing to observe than OmniKEK.Also, girls like him. Nolan is only liked by fags.
>>220144300super looks so fucking shitty in comparison
>>220144282the namekians he killed were explicitly not resurrected, he did more permanent damage to the namekian race than freiza
>>220144362They're both shitty.
>>220144300Invincible as a whole is just nonstop humiliation for everyone involved.
>>220144300>Creator hates him so much he does everything he can to make the readership also hate him>Readers still continue to love him. There is some sort of weird horseshoe with him and Piccolo. Where Toriyama glazed the shit out of Piccolo because he was his favorite and fans love Piccolo, and he hated Vegeta so he did everything he possible to make people hate Vegeta but people still love Vegeta.
>>220144369And then he laughed and gloated about it. That's my GOAT.
>>220144369Wrong. They were all resurected with the single exception of the grand elder because he died of natural causes and Neal because he fused with the doctor.
>>220144453No they weren't, retard. They wished to resurrect everyone killed by Freeza and his henchmen, but Vegeta wasn't Freeza's henchman at the time. Vegeta himself points this out and laughs about it to their fucking faces.
>>220144476Not his fault they didnt use a second wish later. There is still time considering Bulma knows about the issue but prefers to use the dragon balls to restore her beauty yearly.
>>220141262Vegeta is a retard fuckshit in all of Z up to the retarded shit he pulls in the Buu arc but GT and Super generate a lot of good will since he essentially becomes the best guy ever, Omniman is a psychopath space nazi with no redeeming qualities.
>>220144498The dragon balls can't revive someone who's been dead for more than a year, and there's a cooldown of a year between every use.>inb4 superNot Dragon Ball.
>>220141262Vegeta was never deceitful. He didn’t pretend to be somebody he wasn’t. He came to conquer earth, got his shit kicked in, sulked for a while and realized who his real enemy was and joined his former opponents to take him down, never went back on that, just remained a bit mopey
>>220144531To add, it’s the difference between being a regular old bastard and a jewish one. We can forgive a regular human, the jew remains suspect even if he says he changed his ways. “Jew” here is meant as the proverbial jew
>>220144396Why is the animation so ass? Did they cut the budget?
>>220144604They're physically incapable of doing any better. No amount of money will help.
>>220141334You're too young to be here. Hang yourself tonight.
>>220144531To be fair, actually he probably was desperately trying to convince everyone, and even himself, that he was worse than he was
>>220141334Other way around.
>>220141262Vegeta literally gets sent to hell after he dies.
>>220143625Gay redditor
>>220141262Didn't literally all of Vegeta's innocent victims came back to life?
>>220141262 Vegeta is a good guy. his Aura is something else
>>220141262do crackers really "criticize" fictional characters? they don't exist.
>>220141262Who cares? Both are for manchlidren. Well, the latter is for literal children, but somehow manchildren cling to it.
>>220141262Because death matters in Invincible's universe and not DBZ's. Cell killed a bunch of innocents and tardku still gave him a senzu bean.
>>220145000>>220145449No.
>>220141262They're both the best characters in their respective media and deserve better than they get
>>220145693I'm sure all the humans and the namekians did. No one cares about other xenos.
>>220146595The namekian he killed stayed dead, retard.
>>220146611Rude. Take your medicine.
>>220141262Vegeta died twice and went to hell
I cannot take character named "Vegeta" seriously
Saiyan are BIOLOGICALLY wired to be violent ape beast quite literally, Vilcuck are just told to be like that and fold as soon as they get taught it's wrong. Vegeta redemption is much more admirable than this retard Nolan because Vegeta went against his very own nature, even Goku himself had to be brain damaged to stop being a future psycho.
>>220141334>I don't know who the character on the right isGo fuck yourself faggot troll
>>220142065Pan gets a lot for some reason
>>220141334include me in the screencap
>>220144531Bulma said she liked Vegeta because he's a go getter like Goku and Vegeta likes that she has guts. They bond over how Krillin and Yamcha are content to wait for Goku. Even Gohan likes Vegeta. The anime added multiple scenes like Gohan fighting Freiza at full power and Vegeta cause he's mini Goku.
They can't really be compared due to their mediums. DB by its nature is just a Shounen - it unironically needs to not allow development for it's characters given they're marketable to kids as they are
>>220144678>Hang yourself tonightI don't know why, but the thought that you gave him a small grace period before condemning him to suicide got me snickering for a minute.
>>220141262The real reason is that Deagon Ball Z never focuses on human relationships. Nobody really cares how many people Vegeta killed or how many men his wife fucked. It also has a very taoist morality where mandate of heaven and divinity is the most important quality. Goku has the mandate of heaven and thus can shape the world and define good and evil, while the villains want to take this away from him. Since Goku decided Vegeta is “good” then he is.Invincible is too realistic and is set in a modern western (christian) morality, where sin must be atoned for
>>220141262Literally everybody Vegeta kills is brought back by the Dragon Balls, so who gives a fuck?
>>220144241Android 21: the bulma robot
>>220148760>It also has a very taoist morality where mandate of heaven and divinity is the most important qualityno it doesn't
>>220141262Vegeta wasn't a mole who betrayed everyone's trustThat's not the same thing at all
>>220141262>exact same pathThat already tells me the poster has no clue what he's talking about.Nolan was a deceitful spy sent out by his retarded asshole race to brutality destroy earth's defenses. Spending years to gain the trust of everyone around him.Vegeta never pretend to be some savior or have any other motive besides gaining immortality to usurp Frezia as ruler of the universe. His race was barbarians on a leash that crave combat on a biological level. He never ask for forgiveness and just continue to be less of a murderous dick as the series progress. The most he did that can be comparable to Nolan was when he allowed himself to be control by babidi.
>>220144282also the earhlings he killed when he and vegeta came to earth were never revived either kek
>>220144678>>220148716fuckin kek
>>220142134It's better than 98% of TV shows and movies released in the last 20 years, I'll tell you that much.
>>220141465Because they get wished back, after your fifth death, you get a free soft serve ice cream.
>>220143362Trvke
>>220143963That is true, Vegeta doesn’t pretend to be anything less than a monster
>>220148969The ones he killed didn't get wished back though.
>>220144362And yet it still somehow looks better than Invincible.
>>220149102Indeed
>>220143977Only for some of them. He specifically scolded Nappa for the destruction, though not necessarily for the killing.
>>220141505Dragonball's story is whatever, but it's plotting is somewhat underrated in my book. Namek has really good writing with all these moving pieces up until the big showdown.
>>220141334What the fuck
>>220150198>Look, I can see their parachutes>They're okay
>>220144779Not beating the brownoid allegations
