Jackson fucked it all up. He did a shit job.
>>220153062I liked it
>>220153424No, you didn't. You're lying and I hate you.
How DARE he not include Tom Bombadil's Forest of Faggotry, that was the most important part!!!
>>220153062>*stops reading the thread*>“Minas tirith! The city of kings…”>*continues reading*
>>220153526I'm talking about Minas Tiritu, bitch.Tom Bombadil can get gang raped with glass bottles by the Yakuza for all I care.
>book description says it's full of fields and orchards because Tolkien knew how Medieval food logistics worked>movie is "what do they eat?" tier
>>220153526why did he make Gondor look like an arid shithole? just a fortress in the middle of a desolation
>>220153062What do they drink?
>>220153637>>220153644Where's the color? Things were getting shitty even back then
>>220153637The scale of Minas Tirith in the film is so profoundly stupid. It would take a day to climb to the top.
>>220153675Elf milk
>>220153062>Minas Tirith>Organized into tiers
>>220153062>>220153476Cope and seethe, faggot
>>220153774Fuck you bitch! I'll fight you IRL
>>220153637That's what you're this mad about?
>>220153705Yup. Nostalgia betrays a lot of you.
>>220153919the movie is still fantastic and so is this depiction of the city, if that makes you more angry.
>>220153062>>220153637why didn't the orcs just get a buncha boyz with pickaxes and cause an avalanche to crush the city?
>>220154594Sauron didn't have enough specialist slots in his org chart.
>>220153062This is just kikes trying to lay ground work for his nigger filled remake by starting smear campaigns
I quite like Gondolin
>>220154594Orcs were mostly restaurant chefs
>>220153062this is such a fascinating type of fantasy aesthetic. imagine living in that little wooden house with that weird, massive city nearby>>220153644this is slopsomeone should remake lord of the rings in a non-slop way
>>220154666if/when that happens I'll be here saying they fucked it up AGAIN!
what can you dothe guy is from new zeland
I used to think the whole trilogy was good but nowadays I only really enjoy the Fellowship, the rest is whatever. Are the books the same way that only the first one is fun?
>>220153062what is it with all the amazon pajeet bots trying to talk shit about the LOTR movies.you can all eat shit and die
>>220155021no and they're an easy read, just do it.
>>220154763This is kike brand humor. Nice read Jerry
>>220155021Naw they're all great
>>220155026Wrong again faggot.I'm a 100% red blooded born and raised in America MAGA supporter.The LoTR movies are good, but they got some major problems.
>>220155021I'm in the same boat. There's a 'magic' to Fellowship (for the most part) that's lacking in the other two.
>>220154926>the great capital of rohan, the land of horsemen>>>>it's a couple of shacks on top of a small rock
>>220155147Isn't it even called the golden city in the book? lyl
>>220155114you are darker and stinkier than the last thing that went down my toilet
>>220154926Man those movies really fell off after Fellowship
>>220155181Post hands
>>220155127they all suffer from fragmented storylines from different characters doing different things with different stakes and pacing. you could argue fellowship is almost flawless from its upbeat opening, revealing the plot, the introduction of characters and then the ever darkening journey and its climax. the other movies just lack the tightness? i'm not even sure the best way of describing it but there's far too much waste in those movies
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>>220154719>this is such a fascinating type of fantasy aesthetic. imagine living in that little wooden house with that weird, massive city nearbythat's the right way to view itGondor is is living in the shadow of its glorious past, with monuments built by the Numenoreanssort of like a farmer in Egypt in the 1800s seeing the pyramids in the distance, not understanding how it was made
>>220155358>in the 1800s
>>220155147This is how the capital of XI century Poland looked. Rohan is early-medieval.
>>220155461>implying there was a single development in Egypt after muzdogs conquered it
>>220155504attack on titans was kino
>>220155504The problem is Rohan looks like a barren wasteland
>>220155705Kino
>>220154692Artists that make stuff like this don't exist anymore.
>>220153637>>220153644You could explain part of it with >Gondor has been at war with Mordor for months now, Sauron has been darkening the sky with ash, which has killed off plant life and areas around Minas Tirith have been de-populated, as all the people have fled to within its walls And that in peacetime it would look more green and verdant
>>220153637Logistics are irrelevant to the story. If you weren't a midwit you'd understand how a physical medium works.
>>220153637>>220153644What were they thinking?
>>220153705>Where's the color?>Things were getting shitty even back thena lot of it has to do with the low rez, shitty digital elementsthe final product is in shit shape
>>220153062What is this Mortal Engines
>>220159439>Logistics are irrelevant to the story>The story also makes it a point to introduce lembas bread so the characters have the rations they need to make the journeyhuh
>>220159439>Logistics are irrelevant to the storyCorrect, it doesn't matter in story terms where the city gets the food to survive, just that they have it.It matters for worldbuilding. Good that you finally understood the difference.
I take it none of you retards ever stepped on an agricultural field in your lives
>>220160129>cherrypicks>still gets it wronglmao at you
>>220153062it is pretty silly that they didn't do farmsteads in the pelennor at least. like it wouldn't really affect anything, just put a few indications in the background of a few shots. and then the wide shots are miniatures, right? just add some hedgerows, lines of trees, and low stone walls. you could leave basically everything as-is for 95% of shots in/around minas tirith.
It's called visual storytelling. It's supposed to be the nadir of Gondor in its history. Hence the bleak overcast shots in autumn/winter. A literal Satan is about to take over both Gondor and the rest of the Middle Earth, remember? Truly you people can't watch for shit.
>>220154692Imagine the annual floods
>>220154926>no roads>no agriculture>no people outside>100 inhabitantsBEHOLD THE CAPITAL OF GONDOR
>>220160665>autumn/winterIs it autumn/winter?
>>220160760there was none of that anywhere in any of the films besides the tiny hobbit village.
>>220160941not in New Zealand
>>220160760yeah, that always felt off
>>220153675They're next to a mountain shrouded with clouds. Perfect for moisture condensation that flows into streams running down the mountain.
>>220153705The most interesting shot of Minas Tirith is the library in Fellowship when Gandalf goes there. In RotK it's absolutely soulless and looks like a PS3 game.
>>220161167They're in Middle Earth
>>220154719>someone should remake lord of the rings in a non-slop wayWhat a delusional fuck. No one in hollywood is incapable of even getting close to what jackson did now.Is filled with nepotism and incompetence.
>>220162001Did I say they should make it TODAY in HOLLYWOOD?NO, I didn't. You fucking retarded piece of shit.Maybe in 30 years, but someone should do it.Get the fuck outta here you idiot.
>>220155021>>220155127revisionist zoomer view. first film has maybe the longest most ridiculous and over the top fight scene (and a couple more…) and the others have loads of hijinks like gimli getting smashed at rohan and the hobbits getting stoned in isengard.
>>220155302>they all suffer from fragmented storylines from different characters doing different things with different stakes and pacing.That's basically what Tolkien himself said when he was presented with a script for a movie that jumbled the storylines after Fellowship.From letter 210:>The narrative now divides into two main branches: 1. Prime Action, the Ringbearers. 2. Subsidiary Action, the rest of the Company leading to the ‘heroic’ matter. It is essential that these two branches should each be treated in coherent sequence. Both to render them intelligible as a story, and because they are totally different in tone and scenery. Jumbling them together entirely destroys these things.
>>220160665>Hence the bleak overcast shots in autumn/winterWRONG It's March.
>>220154926Whiterun... home.
>>220160702I read that as anal floods.Lol.Now I'm just picturing all these elves having a bad case of diarrhea all at the same time. There wouldn't be enough toilets! Some would end up shitting themselves.
>>220155147Wait until you find out about Kumasi, capital city of the Ashanti Empire
>>220153526>you can't have the atmospheric Old Woods episode because we need to make room for endless battle porn scenes with orcs even though it's a spectacle that gets boring after the first time
>>220153637>>220153644what a shithole
>>220162942>gothmogwho does he mog
>>220153637>>220153644what do they eat?
>>220165723Honestly this.
>>220153062but what do THEY eat?
>>220155504cute
>>220165989if i had to guess, mostly grains and dried stuff. preserved meats. canned food. doesn't look like anything fresh gets there often. but i could be wrong
>>220153062Looks like a cruise liner
>>220154926Rohan was offensively bad. Literally a small village.
>>220166278that's a deceptively framed picturethat island is right next to the mainland and there's even a land bridge to it when tides are low
>>220166278>>220165989>but i could be wronghalf the time you could just walk there. And now there's a road.also, there was only ever a few dozen people (monks mostly) living there at any given time. Less than 50 now.>>220153062that pic is god awful.
>>220166968>that pic is god awful.Shut the fuck up bitch.
>>220154926As time goes on, I start to realize that I overlooked things and excepted them because they weren't a complete disaster. But you're right, it's mediocre. It's so empty and small.
>>220167001sorry.. did you make it yourself??in paint?in 1986?
>>220167077Yeah I made it
>>220154926>>2201670382 and 3 are a disaster in term of fantasy landscape design.weird because 1 was pretty good>>220167140ewdon't talk to me
>>220167189>the last farm they ever sawObjectively false
>>220165989god love Europeans so much it's unreal
>>220167189Fellowship is pretty clearly the best fantasy film of all time. The other two are 7/10’s that are best enjoyed as fun and kinda dumb blockbusters
>>220165989Mont St Michel has a sister in england called Saint Michels mount, it's like Rohan vs Gondor
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>>220153724It's literally st michel. It takes a few minutes. and it's not that big. At its peak around 1000 lived there.
>>220167747I meant green and beautiful "fantasy" farm, not grey and boring medieval farm
>>220168155Dude
>>220168117Minas tirith is supposed to have at least 50k people living in it>>220168207dude. it almost as if I posted a random pic of the shire, just like you just did because that's the point (no fantasy farms after the shire).also, if you want to be this nitpicky, your pic is wrong too.
>>220168329I proved that what you posted wasn't the last farm they saw. Get over it and fix yo shit.
>>220168450>fix yo shit.ok
>>220153637That's a "city" of about 5,000-6,000 at best.
What's Gondor's tax policy?
>>220168743>poor fucks pay, nobles don'tAragorn didn't change that
>>220168663Awesome ty anon.I also understand your pov btw
>>220153062Jackson was probably not the man for the job and his worst creative excesses came out as the trilogy progressed but the years of careful pre production and the passion from everyone involved, including even Jackson, make the movies amazing>>220153062The choice to make the Othram white is a shame since visually the black contrasts so good against the white. Also the omission of the Rammas Echor sucks but was probably cut from the visual effects at the last minute due to budget or time constraints. Theoden even mentions it in the movie as he's giving commands before the Rohirrim charge
Only drawing of Sauron that Tolkein ever drew.
>>220153526I tried reading book 1 and I think I never left Tom Bombadil's estate before I gave up. It was just hundreds and hundreds of pages of doing this and that at Tom Bombadil's house.
>>220168663look at that blurry ass messdigital was absolute shit thenshould have shot in film and used old school effectsit would have looked much fuckin better
>>220153637>>220153644The orchards are behind him. He's like about a hundred feet away from the gate here.
>>220154692>Gondolin>GondorBRAVO TOLKIEN
ITT: 14 year olds acting contrarian
>>220167914If he does why does he inflict negroes and muslims upon them?
>>220159133They do, they just don't get paid to make it anymore. Closest we get these days is the art for Sorcery: Contested Realms.
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>>220161298True that
>>220165989fish?
>>220154692Beautiful. I should read the Silmarillion again
>>220153705>>220153644i think its more just to show that Gondor is a sick, dying country without its kingbritbongs literally thought shit like the king controls the weather back then
>>220167918I agree. It's baffling because they were all filmed at the same time, and not in chronological order. I think after the success of Fellowship Jackson got high on his own supply in the editing process for 2 & 3
What is the house of Eorl, but a thatched barn where brigands drink in the reek, and their brats roll on the floor among their dogs?
>>220169181It was shot on film
>>220171873I like a lot of the props and costumes but in retrospect giving all the elves fruity machetes and the humans normal swords (made by a dwarf for elves and by elves respectively) makes no sense for the lore
>>220154926I obviously agree these suck, but Jackson had limited budget.I'm happy to didn't try to "fix" it with CGI at least.
>>220172180This shot is cool even if the tactic makes little sense
>>220168728This is a 40,000 town. You could pack 4 of them into what's visible, and if the turrets have rooms in them which is plausible, maybe 10
>>220172332>This is a 40,000 townOne tenth of it maybeThe part specifically contained within your picture houses 3,000 persons at most
>>220153062There should be a Special Edition where the Orcs smash through one of those houses and there’s a guy on the toilet pooping
>>220172286The elf combat is always cool to watch, but a lot of what's there to love is the choreography and scale. For me he nails the elf aesthetic every time he shows the rivendell elves doing anything. If a line of these dudes was out there lawnmowering orcs in their slightly-glowy noble robes I think it would be just as cool, but that's just me
>>220172406Yes, the assertion with photographic evidence, is that you're a retard completely talking out of your ass
>>220159267Hm. Looks like they took their farmhouses with them!
>>220162001>no one is incapableFucking hell mate, learn how to use 'your' language's grammar before you post.
>>220172133some low ass grade shit thenthe bluray looks digitized and blurry to all hellthey fucked up with many of the cgi scenes and saved them in some shitty low rez
>>220172332Thank Jesus it has room for 60,000 cars.
I no longer can stand rewatching Two Towers and RotK. Jackson for some reason decided to turn off the colors and make Rohan and Gondor barely less of a wasteland than Mordor, while it was not the case in the books. Yes, surely desolation took bigger part in second and third books but they still were much more green and magical than movies. It didn't help that Jackson cut some of a more mysterious stuff from the TT and RotK like those people who let Rohan take a shortcut path to Gondor, Dol Amroth and Pellenor green and other more minor but important things that worked on magic and beauty of TT and RotK. Second and Third are just boring to look at outside specific scenes (Rohirrim Cavalry, Gandalf vs Witch King) and those you can just watch on jewtube.Fellowship though still stands the test of time.
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>>220173056Funny how nobody ever mentions Lorien, a beautifully arranged kingdom of timeless magic and natural wonder in the books and just a bush in the movie.
LotR is one where they do need to go back and fix a bunch of the scenery and VFX. Weirdly Fellowship holds up but Return Suffers from poor vfx assets.
>>220162176nah, i am millenial but zoomers are right. even back I felt the magic of first movie is gone in the other movies. i despiced the depiction of rohan (where do they get te construction wood? wait there's forest, why do they live in the middle of nowhere and not near the game?) and minas tirith (what do they eat?). but part of the problem is also tolkien's disdolution of the fellowship and tracking multiple journeys simultaneously.
>>220172041Like a The Lion King sort of thing?
>>220173739>LotR is one where they do need to go back and fix a bunch of the scenery and VFX.they will never do thatwould have to completely redo a lot of shit, and it will always have some issuebig companies with big name titles rarely ever fix this kind of shit despite the insane amount of money they pulled inthat part of the industry is insanely lazy and practically dead at this point
>>220173739>we can actually convert it back!
>>220173739>>220173978I thought the grayness was an obvious visual motif showing how men had decayed or were slipping into a dead age and that after victory the colors were far more restored
>>220174183it's possible...my gripe isn't the colors, rather the weak look of the image... it's not far off from Harry Potter, sometimes even worse
>>220153637>>220153644I just realised half of the population would have lived in darkness half the day due to that cliff and the mountains. Imagine living in constant damp and mold. What was the Kingdom of Gondor's health policy?
>>220165989I went there with my class when we were like 12. They let us free to go do whatever we wanted. I remember just hanging out with my bros on some wall, messing around. Some local middle aged woman was super nice to us and gave us this smile. That always stood out to me. Good times
>>220174336and now anon consider that rocky cliffs always erode. especially spring would have to be absolutely abhorrent.
>>220173739then you have to have the orcs sack the farms. Really I think it was skipped over for this reason. There's a big blank area of grass for orcs to march and have their fight. If you had to have toppled or burning barns it becomes more logistics and assets to worry about.
>>220153062EasySpring >>220153062Autumn >>220153637
>>220153637>>220153644
>>220175559>fields turn into grassy meadows after harvestthe zoomer mind is truly something else
>hamfisted music every scene>weak michael bay-ish videogame-esque non-magical atmosphere>basically just cringe capeshit with a million different "he almost died but was saved at the last millisecond" sceneslooking back it's gay as hell
>>220175965I can hear it still
>>220161298well duh Fellowship used analog tech one of the last movie, rest of movies are digital shit.
>>220176443Play Heroes 5.5, it's the best Heroes game tied with HoMM3
>>220153062This looks like shit
>>220176076>"he almost died but was saved at the last millisecond" sceneshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGdp5_12zW0This one's the worst, I used to like these movies
>>220170381You mean like the mayor of new york?
>>220153062Looks like a toilet bowel.
>>220176475I dont' particularly like the balance changes in 5.5, vanilla 5 with the AI turn speed fix is fine to me. Some OP shit but nowhere near how broken 3 is, anyways.
>>220155114>I'm a 100% red blooded born and raised in America MAGA supporter.How do you do fellow MAGA American?I agree, the LoTR movies are deeply flawed, Tolkien fans deserve more book-accurate works made for a modern audience.
>>220153062Why did I read that in his voice.
>>220176987Whose voice?
>>220160361That's not a cherry orchard, dumbass
LotR is the best adaptation you'll ever have of the books, in fact of ANY source. Never we will have something as close to the original as with the first trilogy.
>>220175965What game?
>>220153062He definitely took the "fallen world" idea to its absolute limit. Tolkien always gets praised for his worldbuilding, but the world feels very small and sparsely populated, even if you were to put out your farm fields outside of minas tirith.
>>220158955Man that show went to shit after they got to the basement.
>>220153062He did a good job
>>220169128He is a bird person?
>>220153637You fucking faggots will post this and then deride grrm for the tax policy stuff in the same breath.
>>220153062Jackson made it way cooler with the apocalyptic feeling and edgy horror designs. Tolkien was such a fucking pussy and dropped a great idea for a LOTR sequel because it was too dark and depressing for him. He was such a tard that he imagined Smaug as some fucking pathetic worm with wings and all the Hobbit adaptations made him way more imposing. There are faggots still mad that the story did not stop to a halt so Tom Bombadil can sing in his gay forest. If Tolkien was alive today he would be just as insufferable as his dumbass son about the movies being better than his books.
>>220153062>>220166968>that pic is god awful.Yes, it looks more like a sci-fi Star Wars city than something inspired by medieval period, it even has a spaceship landing platforn
>>220153637I just realized, That cliff is meant to be pointing to the east, towards Minas Morgul with the mountains behind going to the west. Which means that the Sun is on the north side of the cliff! Fucking Jackson put Gondor in the Southern Hemisphere! The cheeky bastard.
>>220155021>Are the books the same way that only the first one is fun?No the books are good. The thing is, Tolkien didn't write three books, he wrote six books that the publisher insisted be printed as three volumes with two books in each volume. And Tolkien struggled with coming up with titles for the volumes, since they originally weren't meant to be paired.
>>220153637its just a scale model made from balsa wood and Styrofoam sitting on a blue screen stage. There are no farms or hinterland or any sign of civilization. Just plastic looking heaps of rock set against blurry CGI composited landscapes. Ugly as sin.
>>220174285Its only really a problem when looking at still image. In the movie the shots are quick enough to convey whatever they are meant to convey without letting people analyse them too much which is why nobody ever cared while watching the film.
>>220179139HoMM5, the best HoMM
>>220153608Code?
It's been almost a decade since I've first seen contrarians try to make people think the movies are bad. I really need to quit this site.
>>220173739Remove the animals and empty the fields and you got it.I understand the other anon's who say the color grading is good for a quick visual representation of the state of Gondor, so I'm fine with the lack of color.But this March, so the fields should be empty.
>>220180786Critiquing something fairly isn't being a contrarian.LoTR is good, but it's definitely not a 10/10. There is plenty to talk about when it comes to its shortcomings.
>>220176475H5 is terrible if you like to play inferno or silvan,great if you like orcs,dwarves and necros
>>220153476No I liked it.
>>220182963Oh, okay then.
>>220179429That basement thing was so retarded. And I don't mean what they found inside, I just mean the whole concept.He didn't even get to the basement until the end of season 3! So fucking stupid. When the first introduced it I figured they get to by the end of S1, i didn't think it would be such a long running thing. It's just a basement!And it's in the middle of the warzone. There was so much random shit that could've happened to it and then you'd have no big reveal.
