>Series with some of the most goated scifi lore of all time>Still no television and film adaptationWhat gives?
>>220153814You want them to ruin it?
nah the lore for Half-Life is really stupid especially in the second game where they live in some dystopia thing and Gordon Freeman is treated as the messiah
we don't need any more vidya adaptations. fuck off.
isn't half life a bit like lost? g-man and everything is just empty mystery for the sake of mystery
>>220153922Idk man I only recently discovered the breengrub stuff and it has renewed me with hopium. I like to think they have a larger plan for the story.
>>220153922yeah it's mystery box writing that Valve gave up on
Cast him
>>220153836I would only trust it in the hands of certified kino makers.
>>220153814The Combine are the only truly effective alien antagonist written in fiction and I would rather not see how some pampered west coast nepo interprets them.
I'm annoyed that all the discussions about a Half Life movie are full of guys speculating about whether Gordon is a mute or not. Like they can't wrap their head around a first person game.
I defiantly say "we'll just see about that..." like gman does all the time
>>220154093I would rather have a Half-Life: Alyx game to be honest.
still the best vr game i played thowhat happened to those other 2 vr games they said they were working to at one point?
>>220154093It's pure autism. Pisses me off too.
>>220153814It's hard to create because>MC is a mute in the games>MC is mostly alone in the gamesI bet they brainstromed with several ideas in the early 2000's but it's impossible to do without pissing off all the fans. >>220153922It's most likely a meta thing. G-man works for Valve.
>>220154131God, I meant movie. Sorry. I think Alyx as the protagonist would simply work better because she’s got personality. Video game movies work better when doing their own story instead of repeating the game too.
>>220153922i think it was originally mystery box writing but i think at a certain point they were moving towards gman being an adolescent Shu'ulathoi (combine advisor) which would explain a lot of the lines you hear about him throughout the franchise. the idea may have been that the combine advisors were secretly utilizing gman, a shapeshifting adolescent advisor, to aid several humans in overthrowing the combine, so that the advisors may be free of their control, a mutual enemy sort of thing. Remember, even advisors are not genuine combine (nobody even really knows what genuine combine look like), they are just another alien race that was assimilated. I also believe this subterfuge explains Gmans caution around alyxs' wish. When gman says he can cause "nudges" but not nudges that are "too large" I believe that is because at a certain point, the combine would notice
>>220154093>>220154156It's a valid criticism particularly in Half-Life 2 where characters will have full of 10 minute conversations with Gordon despite him never responding.Silent protagonists are kinda of a dying thing in vidya.
>>220153922His motives are beyond human comprehension, and he clearly exists in a higher plain of existance.
>>220154256I never knew that theory, it makes a little sense given the way G-Man can be subdued by Vortigaunt mysticism.>We don’t know what genuine Combine look likeThere are no genuine Combine. That’s the horror of the Combine. The State is the State and it perpetuates itself. It’s a “living government” comprised of pieces so small that they can replace damaged or faulty servants without ever realizing those servants were, themselves, replacing other servants.
>>220154288You click the button, and they clearly respond, and that implies that Gordon (you) has just said something to move the conversation along. You can't see that his eyes are looking at them either, because it's first person.If you see a movie where the character is sitting on a toilet, can you assume they're taking a dump, or do you need to see the poop exciting the anus for yourself?
>>220154093It doesn't matter if he's a mute or not. What matters is that we don't know what he sounds like and that's what fans have gotten used to. Making Gordon a real character with a voice of his own will affect everything HL related. A LOT. And the movie will not be like the games at all when you give him a voice. It would cause a dissonance across the whole franchise and I doubt that Valve wants that. I truly believe that that's the main reason why no official live action adaptation has been attempted.
>>220153972Does it even need to be said?
>>220154378>>220154256Adding onto this since I forgot, the Combine’s “essence” came from One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, referring to a vast machine that devours people to perpetuate itself. That’s why I think there is no “ruling caste,” the Combine is itself a living thing, which is ironically supported by how Overwatch behaves like an organism responding to trauma or infections (and in fact uses medical terminology when dealing with threats.)
>>220153953The breengrub and shu'ulathoi lore drop was pure fanfic kino
>>220154434>You click the button, and they clearly respond, and that implies that Gordon (you) has just said something to move the conversation along.They're inconsistent about it, at several points in Half-Life 2 characters imply Gordon is a mute and never actually talks.
>>220154439You never knew what Ishmael the whaler, Frodo Baggins, or Batman sounded like either. Is everything unadaptable because you would have to cast an actor with a voice?
>>220153814What lore, all it has is some groups existing and fuck all info about them.
A horror miniseries about Gordon escaping black mesa would be greatStop it after that
>first game is based action packed violent comic book sci fi kino>2nd game is 2deep4u slop with boring slow gameplay which constantly gets halted for boring dialogue scenes Why do people still pretend HL2 is good?
>>220154647Zoomers and GenAs wouldnt get it. You had to be there.
>>220154502It's canon they just won't admit it because it spoils parts of the mystery.
>>220153814Half Life 1 is just a honest 90's action romp through a secret research facility, fighting aliens and soldiers. It's fine, but not special enough for a film. HL2 is boring and depressing and more nonsensical.
>>220154378>>220154480yeah i guess when i referred to the "genuine combine" i was referring to whatever that essence is, i dont think its ever been expanded upon if they are aliens or bacteria or some artificial intelligence machine, but there had to be something originally. also they DO have a home world that we see for a split second, it implies whatever they are, they came from somewhere
>>220154751>you had to le be there!TL: Im a nostalgia blinded retard
>>220154771Things can get really weird once we deal with trans-dimensional travel, “sentient gas clouds” and such. I wouldn’t be surprised if the creators of the Combine are some sort of soup.>They do have a HomeworldGiven the leaks that are probably accurate to the intended lore in HL3, the Combine Overworld is the interior of the Dyson Sphere that Gordon sees at the end. If I remember my Star Trek correctly, a Dyson Sphere has enough surface area to support 250 million Earths, which means… Shit, maybe they are conquering the multiverse just to upkeep the thing.
>>220154880I'm sorry culture ended in 2001 and you're living at the end of history, but don't get pissy with me, faggot. It's not my fault.
>>220153974Such as?
>>220153814its literally just 1984 fused with Lost. not that special. its still cool though, but its not some masterpiece of worldbuilding by any means
>>220155128Disney, Warner, Netflix, Bollywood, etc
>>220155165Never watched Lost. What does it have in common with HL2?
I don't see it. Half Life is just generic alien invasion stuff. You work in a research facility, one day you science so hard you tear a hole in the space time continuum and aliens invade through it and by the second game, those aliens have colonized earth. There isn't really anything deep there, is there?
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>>220154439We know what he sounds like.
>>220155190Interesting premise, lotsa mystery boxes, no master plan, shitty or non-existing answers/explanations
>>220155402It's not deep, it's just plain cool 00s scifi
>>220155402G-Man and his employers, Nihilanth, Xen
>>220153814that's just generic scifi lore nothing special about it in fact it breaks apart if look into it for more than two minutes
>>220155402the combination of what is essentially The Borg with a Children of Men style resistance is actually surprisingly compelling. Oddballs like gman, dog, the vortigaunts, and the gravity gun are also all extremely iconic and unique to half life 2
>>220153814And that's a good thing. Not everything needs or would even be suited to adaptation. Sometimes liking something DOESN'T mean wanting more but different, it's simply appreciating what you do have.faggot
>>220155562What exactly breaks apart?
>>220153972Dave Franco (Gosling is too bogged.)
>>220153814>goatedWhy do non-whites say this? Do they really want to fuck goats that badly that they had to incorporate them into their "normal" vocabulary?
>>220154093I've never seen that in a HL thread. Also we all know Hollywood would ruin the franchise horribly so please stop giving ideas to the out-of-work scriptwriters who browse here looking for ideas.
>>220155623Nta but i can only assume it's their ability to connect things, read between the lines.
>>220155449Ewww what a troglodyte
>>220155402What do you want, them to recite Thus Spake Zarathustra while playing the piano, pretentious faggot?
>>220155681I am white and say goated
>>220155449Insane behavior dude. Eat my entire ass.
>>220153922>g-man and everything is just empty mysteryG ordon Free manWoah
>>220153814They can't even finish telling the story and you want them to adapt it? I hope they do it just so it ends with Gordon going insane once he hears the bells
Should extra-dimensional portal tech and the Borealis be destroyed, or should it be utilized?
>>220155898I wouldn't want an adaptation of any Xeno game either, anon
>>220153922>isn't half life a bit like lost? g-man and everything is just empty mystery for the sake of mysteryYes, you're exactly right. Fuck knows why people are so enchanted by it. Like what the fuck do people think they're actually going to get?>G Man is an alien being but he's a different type from the other alienswoooow
>>220153922it was initially but I unironically thing the franchise and stuff like breengrub and the fan-based additions to the breengrub stuff have gotten the lore to a point where this actually a coherent solution to the mystery which could be told>>220154256I agree with this, and I'd follow on from >>220154378 to say that some of the breengrub-derived lore implies that there is no "true combine"; the original combine was basically some kind of autonomous alien waste management/resource management AI whose creators went extinct. With its creators absent, the AI just kept following its programming, pursuing expansion and efficiency unthinkingly at any cost, and turning over the course of millions, then billions, of years into a biomechanical abomination spanning first its own solar system, then galaxy, then universe, and ultimately multiple other universe (and now, beginning to enter into our own). I like this interpretation of the combine a LOT. I really think valve struck gold with the franchise and I hope the imminent sequel (HLX, which IS real) doesn't waste the golden premise they have to tell a truly incredible overall story.
>>220155562>>220155402midwit takes. Yeah sure it started that way but I think the way the franchise has evolved (and ironically, the ludicrous amount of fanbase speculation, input, and creativity in the decades since HL2E2) has taken what was initially a quite schlocky and cliche "sci-fi experiment gone wrong" scenario and turned it into an incredibly compelling, even moving, story about human perseverance and the struggle for hope in the face of insurmountable odds.
>>220153814Half-Life 1 and 2 are both peak in terms of video-game storytelling. Why adapt them into movies and take away what makes them special? I get that this is /tv/, but not everything has to be a movie.
>>220158980I like the idea that the Combine empire is so unfathomably large that nobody even knows who's in control anymore
>>220154502How is it fanfic though if it came from the series writer? I think Valve tries to downplay it because it spills too much of the beans too soon. Imo it's pretty damn close to canon. Here is my interpretation of the half life lore given what can be extrapolated from the breengrub dump.>Grub race called Shu'ulathoi exist long ago on another world / universe>They are extremely psychical gifted and experience the world through dream and thought. They communicate telepathically and through their thoughts and dreams, they live in an advanced internal culture of philosophy, science, etc.. They basically live in imagination or something like that and have no real use or concern for the physical world.>The larva stage of their life is all they are concerned about. When they mature, their psychic ability is so strong that their thoughts can imprint whatever form they wish to take on outside of their larval stage. They don't really care about it thought because their adult form pretty much exists just to mate, create more larva, and die.>The shu'ulathoi, eventually think and philosophize enough to the point where they inadvertently create a parasitic thought meme.>What that parasite is in unclear but it is a thought pattern that could be described as evil.>The grubs fight with their parasitic thought pattern for a long time until they are eventually discovered by the Combine, or the progenitor of what would become the Combine we see in HL2. What the Combine is isn't really clear maybe a hivemind race or an AI singularity. Whatever found the Shu'ulathoi was described as something that sucks the life out of hosts.>Give the nature of the Combine they were attracted to this immaterial parasite (force, meme, deity etc..) the Shu'ulathoi had dreamt up. >The Combine started corrupting the Shu'ulathoi as a means to attain their parasite somehow.>The Shu'ulathoi only realized what was happening to them when it was too late.1/3
>>220159714Some were rumored to be working on an elaborate plan to free their kind and bring down the Combine and this parasite.>By harnessing the powers of the Shu'ulathoi the Combine gained unprecedented technological superiority.>They took the Shu'ulathoi into "nurseries" where they presumably used them to create the biomechanical monstrosities we see in the games. Since the grubs has such control over their thoughts they could influence the physical world (example taking on whatever form they wished when maturing) They are probably responsible for sculpting the races subjugated by the combine into weapons, tools, etc..>I would think the parasite the Combine were seeking took their maybe their unconscious drive to consume into new territory. Like domination of universes and all sentient life. Like an AI program that got possessed by the Devil or something.I struggle a bit with the Nihilanth and the G-Man. My best guess is that the Nihilanth was an administrator figure like Breen tasked with the enslavement of the Vortigaunts. His appearance shows his body was largely created through the same Shu'ulathoi influenced process as other Combine subjects He escaped the clutches of the Combine and fled to Xen with Vortigaunt slaves. Maybe only possible through the powers of the Vortigaunt who seem to be able to tap into that psychic realm only the Shu'ulathoi have access to.
>>220153922>>220153814wtf is the lore?
>>220159749As for the G-Man I really don't know. There's the theory he is part of the plan of some of the Shu'ulathoi who escaped the combine and went into deep thought. Maybe he is a physical projection in their plan to bring down the Combine by subtly manipulating events. The invervention of the Vortigaunts may throw doubt into this theory though. Maybe the G-man is a physical manifestation of that very mind virus the Combine sought from the Shu'ulathoi. At the end of the HL1 he says his employers are now in control of Xen (presumably he means the Combine.) He may just be an agent of chaos, a manifestation of that meme, bad things tend to follow him. The Nihilanth said not to trust him. I really don't know.
>>220159714>>220159749Fuck i forgot to copy a line between these two posts>>The few remaining who were able to escape combine control fled deeper into psychic trance or away from the Combine entirely.
>>220153814>half life Netflix adaptation>mini series approximately 6 1 hour long episodes with terrible pacing>Gordon Freeman talks now>gman is black now>alyx is le hecking strong female who treats gordon like shit and is mad at him for no particular reason>pointless alterations to the story>alyx gets the hev suit and gravity gun>breen is turned into generic strawman of a conservative (he hate immigrants and trans people)>entire story takes place in America instead of eastern EuropeYeah no, I'd rather the franchise stay dead
>>220153814Utter shit.
>>220155562You don't know what you're talking about.
>>220153922They were making it up as they went along. Problem is, they were "going along" almost two decades ago. We're getting to the point where those who did know the answers, if any existed, are dead. There is ONLY lame fan fiction answers for all of it.
>>220160977Marc Laidlaw is still very much alive and even published two Episode 3 fanfics (canon)
>>220161546>Testing the waters to see if the conclusion I thought of while taking a shit goes over well by lampshading it as "fanfiction"Writers should just post their scripts online to see if people like it and change them accordingly. There's no shame anymore, they know they can't create shit, just let the market do it for you.
>>220153922Yes, this is the actual reason why the games take forever to make and are never getting a conclusion. Valve doesn't know what to do.
>>220163874They wrote themselves into a corner and had to retcon the ending of ep2 just to try to wriggle their way out of it and get back on track after HDtF put their once flagship IP in jeopard
>>220163874The actual reason is that Half Life is just a series of glorified tech demos and they only release a new game when they feel like the tech has advanced enough to warrant it. The next Half Life game will probably release with the Steam Frame.
