This is a mistake. Michael Jackson has been re-introduced to young people. His streaming numbers are booming. His legacy survived all the allegations. Take the victory and leave. Don't open the can of worms by doing a sequel movie and make everyone talk about the allegations again. This movie was a big boost to Michael's reputation and if they make a movie showing him on trial, making himself look hideous, etc it will immediately tank it again.
>>220170753>Michael 2: Hee Hee>Michael 3: SHAMONN
>>220170876They should call it Jackson
Who will they cast as the doctor who killed him?
>>220171253forest whitaker
I saw parents with their kids at the theater, these kids were born even after Michael has already died. I wonder how they will perceive him since they didn't live through the greatness.
>>220171253Tiger Woods in blacker face.
Young people coming out of this movie will obviously be exposed to Michael's controversial aspects on the internet anyway, I'm sure there are tons of tiktoks about it or whatever. And honestly, all the weird shit he did and specially his physical transformation are kinda part of his mystique too.
will they show this
>>220171426I mean, the music is tight no matter what anyone claims he did.
Turns out Michael was innocent and Trump was the pedophile this whole time.
>>220171020This
>>220171540>if you can't feed a baby>that don't have a baby
>>220171584>Epstein seething about Trump not being a client>Epstein angry at Trump for not being on board>Epstein angrily suspecting Trump of being a whistleblower because he spilled his spaghetti to Trump about what he was up to>Epstein actively and aggressively trying to keep Trump from getting electedTrump isn't a pedophile, but he really did assfuck pedophiles on a massive scale by shutting down Epstein's operation.
>>220170753Will he get raped like in Joker 2?
>>220171644Based
>>220171644>>220171722Checked.
>>220170753The actor already made him look hideous.
The movie was good but it felt way too rushed. It needed at least and extra 20 minutes or so, and it didn't even touch on his love life.
They really gonna make his life into a trilogy like the LotR
Can't wait for Michael Threehee
>>220171253Obviously Don Cheadle
>>220171524The point is that he hasn’t been canceled. That itself is a huge victory. The media is still aggressively calling him a pedo rapist and criticizing the movie, but the public doesn’t believe it and still love him. It would be a massive self-inflicted wound if they gave the public reason to focus on the allegations. They got away with their successful squeaky-clean biopic, just take it and move on.
>>220170753>Michael Jackson has been re-introduced to young peopleMichael Jackson was extremely popular with Zoomers pre-movie. He was more popular on streaming than the vast majority of current popular artists like Beyonce, Sabrina Carpenter, Post Malone, etc. Over half of the audience opening weekend were Zoomers which nobody in the trades saw coming but every zoomer could tell you would have likely been the case even pre-movie.Really, the reason the movie is doing as massively as it is is because the central appeal of it is being in the presence of somebody who has truly become seen as a defining icon of peak America, and Jaafar succeeded in this singular goal to a scary degree. We've grown up in shitty times where it's hard to look forward to the future without going insane, so we turn to the past instead, and Michael Jackson is really emblematic of better times.That's also why the legs for this movie have been excellent (it had the fourth-highest first Tuesday ever for an April release) and why the sequels will also likely be big moneymakers unless they're unwatchable. As other anons have said, the scandals and controversies are part of the mystique of MJ in the same way they were for the Gods and myths of antiquity, and are a huge part of why MJ remains popular and talked about in contrast to somebody like say, Lionel Richie.
>>220170753I heard Henry Cavil will lose 150 lbs to play the role
Michael 2: Don't Stop 'til You Get Enough
>>220173789>Sebastian Stan reprises his role as TrumpI'm thinking kino
>>220173789I will have to survive until 2028 to see Jackson Michael sequel
>>220170753in Michael 2 is he is played by a white actor or will they do white face on a black actor? l m a o
>>220173583>We've grown up in shitty times where it's hard to look forward to the future without going insane, so we turn to the past instead, and Michael Jackson is really emblematic of better times.Yes. And it’s also why posterity will exonerate Michael. Because we need to. We don’t want one of our shining beacons of joy to be discarded. We don’t want our great icon of the past to be tarnished. The implications of the allegations are that Michael Jackson was one of the most prolific child rapists in history and that everything we know and love him for — his music, dancing, eccentricity, singing, charm, showmanship — was all a cover for his real interests and desires, which were to rape children. No one wants to accept such an idea and contend with it, so they won’t. We will refuse even if it was true.
>>220171253A White guy obviously. Because huwhite pipo bad and Michael didn't molest those kids y'all tripping.
>>220173583Zoom Zoom, is the movie actually good?I skimmed a camrip and it feels like nothing happens.
>>220174021No I think White people can accept that Michael Jackson was a screwed up pedophile who was probably raped as a kid. It's black people who have a hard time reckoning with reality, so history has to be re-written to suit their fragile ethno-narcissism.
>>220174116nice try rabbi but everyone knows you guys are liars now
>>220174101>is the movie actually goodIt's a typical biopic, Bohemian Rhapsody is a good comparison. Treat it less like a film and more like an enhanced, finely crafted concert film strung together by chronology and history and you'll understand the appeal. It's particularly a blast to watch in the theater because you have the whole crowd singing along and all the people of all ages and demographics you'd never expect going full autist by dressing up and doing the moves and shouting HEE HEE and SHAMONE.The two leads however surprised me. Jaafar was unreal playing Jackson to where it felt like an organic resurrection of a real historical figure unlike anything I've seen in almost any film, while Domingo was great as Joe and did the same (probably the first role I've seen of his where I was impressed given you could never tell he was a zesty buck irl, reminded me of the Heartstopper guy in Warfare in that regard).That being said this is very much a theater experience movie you see with a crowd singing along and vibing with the film, this shit would probably be miserable watching at home or on a plane.
>>220174021>No one wants to accept such an idea and contend with it, so they won’t.>We will refuse even if it was true.The thing is, this happened with Gary Glitter in the UK. In case you don't know he was this massive, beloved glam rocker from the 70s and 80s who was later caught red handed camping out in Vietnam, Thailand, and Cambodia to fuck kids after being exiled from the UK for doing so. All his songs were removed from airplay, he was later implicated in part of a bigger crackdown called Operation Yewtree, and he was reduced to a joke, for good reason.With Michael however, the fact of the matter is that because they're all allegations that have never been proven and are now virtually impossible to prove without really damning evidence, we'll never know. And that dark side of his legacy has ironically has played a major role in keeping him relevant, because there's strong evidence for and against him being a pedo that will be discussed in perpetuity alongside his continued cultural relevance and power, basically inflating his cultural GDP by giving his popularity and status multiple dimensions.That's why weirdly enough, he's less of a musician or pop icon and more of a modern mythological figure, made all the more bizarre and captivating by the fact that he was a real person.
>>220170753powerful and brave. healing the world. destroy sony.> https://youtube.com/watch?index=13&list=PLKsvYprVdOJ0pUVT6PgBSPuNjHZcv6-6h&v=QeE9VnDMmvQ>>220171253Jaden Smith
>>220170753And Michael is rotting in hell and is not enjoying this success>>220171584>Michael innocentSo was diddy then. He wasn't on the Epstein list
>>220173201>the public doesn't believe itIf by "the public", you mean "the weird cultists who worship dead celebrities", then, yes, you're absolutely right. I think generally people find Michael Jackson to be a creepy weirdo even if they're fond of some of his music.
>>220171020would be kino on the bluray spine when you buy them physically next to next
>>220174271Sounds like a very brown audience to me.
>2nd movie is going to be super sad
>>220177077seems like the opposite, outside of the media there was a small minority of people who hated him and thought the worst. he is from before the time of meme accusations ruining peoples lives and #metoo. he had his day in court and was found to be innocent.
>>220177157You can't find someone "innocent". When they read the verdict, they don't say "innocent". They say "not guilty". That's not the same thing. Plenty of people have gotten "not guilty" verdicts despite being guilty. Some people get guilty verdicts and then get let go anyway.But I'm getting tired of playing your game. Whether he's literally a pedophile or not is irrelevant, and I didn't even mention it in the post you responded to. Michael Jackson was a creepy weirdo. The skin bleaching, the dangling baby, all his strange behavior. He's not an icon, he's not hero, he's just another bizarre celebrity freak.
>>220170753WrongHis discography was taken by the people who killed him and this just makes them richer
>>220170753>That's ignorant
>>220170753>Michael Jackson has been re-introduced to young people.It's what he would have wanted.
My big titted girlfriend loved the movie i had sex with her after watching Michael
>>220170753>This is a mistake.
>>220170753>allegations
>>220177205innocent in the sense that they took him to court and failed to provide anything that would indicate he was guilty of the crimes they accused him of. but yeah he was probably the weirdest person in pop culture, that doesn't make he a bad person.and honestly even if he was a bad person, he was so talented that most people are just going to overlook it.
>>220177244kek
>>220174271>you have the whole crowd singing alongholy shit what a nightmare. I would absolutely hate this
>>220177244>>220177348metoo. problem?
>>220176838I believe them
>>220171644None of these claims have been officially fact checked by Snopes by the way
>>220170753>This is a mistake.https://youtu.be/c0rGI-Pkmtk?t=568
>>220171519Fuck Rabbi Yeshua, Michael Jackson is the true King of Kings.
>>220177256You moonwalk'd in her shamona til she HEE HEEE
>>220177472Boy you people really are cancer
>>220177093>Having fun is brownSo be it,....Rabbi!
>>220177093Browns are more masculine than today Whites thats why for Women prefer dating to us today Whites prefer to become Trans
>>220170753another gaymerican pedophilesomethings fucked up in the water over there
Is it true that the bed Michael and the kids slept on was the size of a room?
>>220171644If that's true then why is he destroying his legacy and his party's future for israel?
>>220171020>Michael J4ckson
>>220170876Michael v Diddy
>>220178064No but Trump did
>>220178064the size of a bed sized room
>>220171020>Micheal>Micheal Returns>Mich3al>Micheal: The Final Chapter>Micheal: Jackson 5
>>220173583>>220175447>>220175748What the fuck is with all the namefags here? Are you faggots this desperate for attention that you need a username for /tv/?Especially the tripfag. KWAB
What are some good modern artist that have the same feel as MJ?
>>220170753Reminder Radiohead, a band that for over 20 years was associated with lonely men who never had sex and are losers, have more monthly Spotify listeners than Michael Jackson, a dude who sold over a billion albums worldwide.Zoomers don't give a shit about MJ
>>220180283Bruno Mars and the Weeknd, but not really
>>220170753>Michael sequal called Jackson>Sam Rami is on board>Most of the movie takes place during his tour in Israel and the making of They Don’t Care About Us>Just before the doctor is about to give Michael his Propofol, he says “Shalom” to a mysterious figure with curly hairKino?
>>220180389Eh, not really.
>>220173583>We've grown up in shitty times where it's hard to look forward to the future without going insane, so we turn to the past instead, and Michael Jackson is really emblematic of better times.Which is ironic because Michael also lived through some pretty fucked up times. He always emphasized how awful war was and how we should all hold hands and sing
>>220180283None, there's no Super star that comes even close to peak popularity MJ, closest one is Taylor Swift but she has zero relevancy outside basic white bitches, while MJ was universally known and loved.
>>220171253OJ Simpson
>>220172484This. I just saw this and left disappointed. The elton john one still feels like a superior biopic because of how creative it was showing the scenes behind the music where as this focused more on the music and the stage performances. If i wanted to see him perform I would have watched recordings. I really wanted something different from this film that it didn't give.
>>220180331>Spotify listeners>realpick one
>>220180552i don't even think it is possible in the modern world for a person to be at the level he was at. media is too fractured, a person with millions of followers on one platform can be a literal who on another platform.
>>220180331>have more monthly Spotify listenersLol, who cares.
>>220177093>a very brown audienceI mean, it's Michael Jackson.>>220177363Think of it like watching anime at the theater and having all the cosplayers there>>220180331>mfw I post misinformation on the internet
>>220170876lmao
>>220171426It's safe to be a child in public now that Michael is gone
>>220180331No they don’t. MJ is at 75 million now
>>220178064All signs point towards Michael Jackson being one of the most prolific child rapists in history. He was worse than Epstein, worse than Diddy, worse than Weinstein. He trafficked children in broad daylight with the consent of their parents. He turned his estate in a literal rape fantasy land for himself. He has been accused by his closest friends and allies like the Cascio family. They all corroborate the same story and grooming process. The fact that Michael Jackson not only got away with this but that his reputation is still being protected today is utterly astonishing.
>>220181674>his reputation is still being protected todaythe only people that still actively defend him are rightoids which coincidentally enough voted for an orange pedophile to be president. so it's not surprising they have sympathy there.
>>220170753I still don't know who left the towel in the swimming pool :(
>Prince biopic>Michael Jackson shows up in the post credits>"I'm assembling a team.."
>>220181754>how can i make this about drumpf?dems were in office for 4 years, the epstein files were a part of an open investigation under bidens DoJ for 4 years, if drumpf was guilty they would have nailed him to a cross.and people liking jackson has literally nothing to do with politics, he was a weird guy who did weird shit but none of the allegations against him turned into anything.
>>220179480kek
>>220180283>good modern artist
>Michael Jackson’s tabloid scandals (a prevailing subject of his later work) can be best understood through the annals of political strategy as described in Nancy Pelosi’s infamous 2017 “wrap-up smear” speech that outlined the tactic of smearing someone’s character, getting the smear reported/repeated in the press (“merchandise” it), and then using media pressure to amplify and validate it (“wrap-up smear”). The Michael biopic counters the diversionary media tactics that attempted to ruin the artist’s King of Pop standing. The haters have not won; recall those acknowledgments of “Billie Jean” that enhance the humanizing revisionist documentary Melania.
>>220170753Anon that was the point all along. For most people his music exists in a vacuum. No gossip or “controversy.”
>>220180552>>220180926True. The level of personal fame, talent and universal airplay MJ's songs had and still have were organic and bigger than ALL current major stars combined. Taylor Swift, Kendrick Lamar, Bruno Mars etc are all footnotes compared to Michael Jackson.
>>220171658He never was convicted or went to jail or prison so no.
>>220172484> and it didn't even touch on his love life.Diana Ross was in the movie it’s just she doesn’t want all that out there because she was grooming him: https://youtu.be/57n4JPoa88c?si=NELKb0445ajz9v-c
>>220177437> Michael Jackson is the true King of Kings.https://youtu.be/oxAyw-fxJ_U?si=-A7k2UKGVPyMgf8X
>>220172484It didn't touch on fucking anything besides him singing at concerts and having a douche bag father. And he was silly with wanting exotic animals. The "biopic" said basically nothing about his personal life. I definitely see how it got shit reviews
>>220173856>The Epstein Cinematic Universe
>>220180552Zoomers and Gen Alpha listen to more older music than even new shitty music. The music industry will die out soon before we ever get an mj level superstar ever again
Taylor Swift is easily a bigger star than Michael Jackson Michael's music career basically came to a crashing halt after 1993, he was a laughingstock to everyone and nobody wanted to listen to him anymore
>>220182585Edwin Booth was the biggest and most famous American actor of the 1800s, but everyone is more familiar with his brother John Wilkes Booth because he killed LincolnSame concept. If you want to compare MJ to a modern star it'd have to be someone like R Kelly or even Chris Brown where the controversy overshadows the artist
>>220173201> The point is that he hasn’t been canceled. That itself is a huge victory. The media is still aggressively calling him a pedo rapist and criticizing the movie, but the public doesn’t believe it and still love him.This. Especially in the Chris Hanson ripoff era of YouTube with Jidion and skeeter Jean and others are ready to crucify pedophiles and d4vd people are more concerned Celeste was underaged rather than being mutilated. Both are terrible. And everyone even right wingers turning on Trump because he wouldn’t release the Epstein files at first and people being hyper fixated on that still to this day with Pam bondi testifying before congress for it. The fact that MJ is in the Epstein files which might explain why people say they saw in hell https://youtu.be/wCQ8hwyqHHA?si=58zflYOIUFsBGCIv and no one not even Jidion who says he was weird but he wasn’t that is a testament to his fucking popularity for like 50 years. Probably damn near 60 now.
>>220181856> Prince biopic That’s just purple rain bro lol
>>220180283>>>/mu/Mariah+Carrey
>>220182052> Kendrick LamarRemember when (((they artificially boosted his numbers))) to try and say his Super Bowl halftime drew more viewers than MJ’s lmfao
>>220182585taylor swifts audience is exclusively suburban white girls whereas everyone listens to michael jackson.
>>220170753I have my doubts mass audiences want to see (semi-fictionalized account of) a real man at his lowest. There really isn't much of a "comeback" because he died just as pedo controversies were starting to wane.
>>220181121>having all the cosplayers therei fap if they're hot?inb5 pedo cosplayers in kinoplex.
>>220182752it's the other way aroundanyone will leave on a catchy taylor swift song on the radio while billions will turn off an MJ song because they don't want to think about him licking little boy's assholes
>>220182838would be hilarious if they made it into a crime thriller where the main character is wrongfullly accused and he fights his way to prove his innocence. Make Michael the sympathetic person just minding his own business and the parents are the greedy evil villains spreading lies.
>>220182745That attempt to artificially hype Lamar's numbers was almost as cringe as the girly pants he wore to the Superbowl
>>220170753Hey guys, I'm making a biographical movie about OJ Simpson and the ending is him winning the Heisman Trophy...
>>220182872>i fap if they're hotLuckily it's Michael Jackson so if you grab your crotch or put your hand down your pants nobody will bat an eye as long as you intermittently say HEE HEE or SHAMONE
His two accusers were proved to be scammers.
>>220182926that's just you, bro
Reminder that when they raided his house they seized his porn stash and only found straight porn. No gay shit whatsoever.
>>220177886You sound like a caveman.>>220183020So much of this movie was already axed because of legal concerns. Anything like that is immediately going to cause legal issues.
>>220182585Everyone doesn’t care about Taylor Swift in africa or asia. Even in europe she’s popular, but much less than in the US. That’s the difference compared to MJ, he is known worldwide and in the same way.
>>220181674cool, now where’s the evidence to any of this besides ‘someone else said so’
>>220183194they're making a sequel so they're gonna have to talk about that stuff eventually. There's nothing else to mention about him in the 90's.
>>220182585>Taylor Swift is easily a bigger star than Michael JacksonThere's uncontacted tribesmen in the Amazon and Southeast Asia that know who Michael Jackson is and do his dances despite no outside contact whatsoever. The same cannot be said for nearly any other human being that has ever existed.
Apparently every screening has black people filming the screen with their phones
>>220183126>>220183275>>220183403you fags sound like you're in a cultuncontacted tribesmen do not know any celebrity whatsoever, much less know how to do his dance moves. Next you'll be saying MJ walked on water and could turn water into wine
>>220183418>every screening has black people filming the screen with their phonesThe secret is to go to a theater in an area with minimal joggers which is my rule of thumb for whenever I watch a big movie and doubly so for one that appeals to said demographics. I was in a theater that was mostly Whites, Asians, and Mexicans with only a few Blacks and it was great (Latinx fucking love MJ btw, arguably the most of anyone in the world outside of maybe Japan or Mainland Europe).
>>220183022He essentially killed rap music for 2025 to now maybe that was what he was talking about the industry can hate me that if he destroyed Drake then his genre dies and doesn’t chart on the billboard hot 100 anymore but no music nowadays charts there’s still shit on there from over a year ago or more and old music charting way more now lmao I guess (((Drake))) was the only thing keeping rap afloat pre Kendrick beef which was mainstream but that was the last monoculture shit that everyone was talking about and listening to even fucking otakus and that was about calling out pedos a big topic recently.
>>220183502Nobody's talking about "uncontested tribesmen" and your zoomzoom manufactured/mediocre industry plant will be sidelined in a few years (less if it's a rapper) whereas Michael Jackson will retain his pop music worldwide status
>>220172484>it didn't even touch on his love lifeHow could it? Diana Ross got cut for "legal reasons" and Tatum O'Neal probably would too, especially since she dated Michael when she was 13 and he was 17. And the movie ended before Lisa Marie Presley or the woman he married afterwards.At most they could show Brooke Shields as his platonic pseudo-beard.
>>220183502>uncontacted tribesmen do not know any celebrity whatsoever, much less know how to do his dance movesI know it sounds like bullshit made up by a CWC-tier schizo but I'm not jokinghttps://fandomwire.com/michael-jackson-cant-even-escape-the-deep-jungle-even-taylor-swift-fans-will-respect-mj-after-learning-how-popular-he-was-among-tribe-in-the-amazon/
>>220183563Kendrick's attempt to attack Drake was malicious, mostly unsubstantiated and cliquish in the most mediocre way and it clearly backfired
>>220181053>>220181121>>220181615Temp movie bump. after 2 weeks it's going down
>>220183608>In an age-old video on YouTube, the Xingu people gathered before a television, where they were shown several incidents and names of people who were infectiously popular back then.wow they showed some tribesmen a video of MJthat's a tad different from>>220183403>There's uncontacted tribesmen in the Amazon and Southeast Asia that know who Michael Jackson is and do his dances despite no outside contact whatsoeveryou disingenuous namefag
>>220183593in terms of music Taylor has already surpassed Michaelin terms of "fame" Michael is more "famous" because of all the pedo shit that kept him in the spotlight long after his music career endedit's like comparing Barry Sanders to OJ Simpson, just because more people are aware of OJ doesn't mean he was a better running back than Barry
In terms of most #1 singles (a testament to the longevity of a career and not just biased fans)>1. Beatles - 20>2. Mariah Carey - 19>3. Elvis - 18>4. Taylor Swift - 14>4. Rihanna - 14>6. Drake - 13>6. Michael Jackson - 13keep in mind Mariah, Taylor, Rihanna, and Drake could still have another hit single, and Bruno Mars (10) could easily have four more hits
>>220183880Drake should have another #1 but jews literally suppressed his last single
>thinking number 1s mean jack shit in the streaming era
>>220183949MJ wasn't alive for the "streaming era" where the estate could easily pay for bot farms to only stream MJ songs to boost his numbersnumber 1 singles were the defining metric throughout MJ's entire life, and he's 6th and tied with another brown pedophile
>>220183795>>220183880you can't compare streaming artists to physical copy era artists. A streaming artist just has to put out a new album and will automatically get a number 1 hit due to so many people checking it out. In the old days you had to legit make a great song to get a number 1.
>>220183795>in terms of music Taylor has already surpassed MichaelLMAO
>>220184042you can also easily manipulate streaming statistics by having an army of cell phones somewhere in India all playing MJ songs on repeatit's a lot harder to manipulate record sales when you have to physically buy a copy of the album, but Taylor, Rihanna and Drake's peaks were in the mid-2010s if say Bad Bunny had 300 number 1s then yeah your point might stand
>>220183502>uncontacted tribesmenlmao
>>220184029>MJ wasn't alive for the "streaming era"I'm not talking about MJ, I was talking about claiming Drake, Rihanna, or even Taylor Swift being more popular than MJ based on #1s given the bulk of their biggest hits came in the streaming era.And even then, album sales are a much better metric to measure overall popularity by and using that metric MJ blows everyone on that list out of the water by very large margins given how ridiciulous the sales from Thriller, Bad, and Dangerous were compared to anything release in the streaming era even when adjusting for album equivalent units.
>>220184145the streaming era is an extremely recent phenomenon. Taylor, Drake, and Rihanna had most of their hits in the ipod/itunes era of musicthe streaming era is all Olivia Rodrigo, Bad Bunny, Sabrina Carpenter, etc. but Taylor is still queen bee
>>220184106you over-estimate how easily bots can be used for streaming. You need to play a song for 30 seconds to count as a play and you would need a absolute shit ton of phones and accounts all using lots of bandwidth to get the numbers up. Bots can work for social meda posts but it's not feasible for streaming music. At best you can get maybe a couple million but that isn't much.
>>220184198The problem with Taylor is that she hasn't really released anything special since the 2020s began yet her most recent album broke first week sales records despite not being very good. Her "skill" level doesn't match up with her sales numbers which is a reflection of the streaming era as a whole.
>>220184198>Taylor, Drake, and Rihanna had most of their hits in the ipod/itunes era of musicMost of Taylor Swift's number ones came in 2020 and after contrary to popular belief, while the vast majority of Drake's started in 2016 and continued after that which was well after the Ipod/download era died and streaming took over.I'll give you Rihanna thougheverbeit using that metric, though I'd argue in terms of overall record sales and cultural impact that MJ still isn't remotely a comparison for any of these artists.
>>220184261The Fate of Ophelia was the biggest song of 2025
>>220184310yes and that's my point. The song isn't very good compared to her other stuff and the album as a whole was considered her worst of her career yet it was massively successful.
Do you guys think he TEE-HEE'd his JESUS JUICE into those boy's SHEEEMONA
>>220184352yes and you need to understand the difference between fact and opinion>I didn't like Fate of Ophelia>Michael Jackson was the greatest man to ever walk the earththese are opinions>Taylor Swift has had a longer and more successful career as a musician without being a tabloid-fodder hasbeen celeb like Michael or Britneythis is factMichael kept putting out music after 1993 and nobody wanted to hear it. Taylor keeps putting out music and the entire world wants to hear it.
>>220178136>this anon nigga never had no Jew pussy afore
I'm so sick of these lazy musician life story films.>the story and music is already written>fan base is already there >we just need to figure out how to fit it into a movie
A sequel has me more giddy with anticipation than the first movie could ever hope to have me be. Either they show all the controversy, warts and all or they double down on the saccharine white washing and make MJ out to be the ultimate martyr of American media. Both directions will be immensely entertaining to see play out.
>>220177205You can be exonerated, which is 'you did not commit the crime you are accused of'
>>220184523Sure, but the ensuing shitshow will be very bad for his estate and reputation. His estate is utterly delusional if they think making a sequel movie where they exonerate Michael of his alleged crimes is a good idea.
>>220184459>Taylor Swift has had a longer and more successful career as a musicianAgain, using album sales as a metric disproves this, let alone the obvious gulf in cultural impact between the two.I'm not even a guy that thinks MJ is the greatest or best, he's largely a singles artist defined by music videos whose albums vary pretty wildly in quality with a couple that are outright shit while his personal life was a trainwreck. But he is quite literally the highest selling solo artist in the history of music and has possibly sold more records than the Beatles depending on what metrics you use, while his cultural impact on popular music alone dwarves anyone else in this discussion. Trying to argue against him on a statistical level makes no sense at all given he's sold somehwere in the ballpark of 300 million records worldwide and has the distinction of the highest-selling album ever.
>>220183634It was retarded but it didn't backfire, he was showered with praise and acclaim from the establishment. The whole thing was really bizarre in retrospect. Drake claiming Kenny's son is illegitimate and he beat his wife, Kenny claiming Drake is a sex trafficker pedophile with a secret daughter, just stupid shit all around
>>220184459YOU'RE A FUCKING RETARDED INBRED LOW IQ MONKEY.
>>220181986No one is smearing Michael Jackson because they hate him you dumb nigger. A little boy claimed he was raped by Michael and correctly identified his body and genitals. Naturally, that would make many people quite suspicious.
>>220184651except the industry has changed where it's now about streaming and not selling recordssaying Michael is forever #1 because he sold the most records is like saying Finding Nemo is forever the greatest movie of all time because it sold the most DVDs Taylor has been at the top of her game for 18 years since she dropped Love Story in 2008, releasing albums and going on tours. Michael spent a little over a decade being the biggest star in the world, and then built himself an amusement park to fuck kids in
>>220181856A lot of people don't know this but there was supposed to be a long Prince documentary released a few years ago by the guy who did the excellent O.J. Simpson documentary, but his estate successfully had it suppressed and banished it to the dark realm because it revealed some insane shit about Prince that his estate doesn't want anyone knowing about
Michael 1 ended with Bad.What song will they end Michael 2 with, Man in the Mirror or Heal the World?
Will there be a part 2?
>>220184778>except the industry has changed where it's now about streaming and not selling recordsSo does streaming matter or does it not? You or another anon earlier were arguing that MJ's estate was buying streams from Jeets, while now you and the others are claiming he's fell behind due to streaming even though going by monthly streams on all major platforms he's still one of the most popular musicians in the world to where he even outperforms current artists like Carpenter, Rodrigo, or Beyonce (and that was before the movie came out and he got a bump too).
>>220184775>correctly identified his body and genitals.no he didnt, thats what he got wrong you lying white trash
>>220184894and all these musicians with non-music related issues who have developed cult followings (Michael, Britney, R Kelly, Chris Brown, Kanye, Diddy, Morgan Wallen, etc) again, it's the difference between OJ and Barry Sanders. Just because more people know OJ doesn't mean he was the better running back.
>>220184646>Sure, but the ensuing shitshow will be very bad for his estate and reputationLike I care lol
>>220184459the only reason Taylor has had such a long career is becasue the state of music is such dogshit that there's nothing else to listen to. You have songs staying on the top ten charts for 2 years because there's nothing else being released. If Taylor was releasing music 20 years ago she'd have fallen off once she got older like Michael did too.
>>220184778He is forever number 1 in cultural impact and fame. That is just an objective statement, it's not praise towards the man or his music, it's just a fact. He was a very important instrument in spreading globohomo at the turn of the century, he's a person you simply have to mention in the historical development of modern society just like the Beatles
>>220184951He got everything right except that MJ was uncircumsized, but the jury would've likely interpreted that as MJ being hard around Jordan and Jordan mistakenly thinking he was circumsized. His lawyers knew they would lose in court which is why they settled.
>>220185219and that fame is because he molested little boys pretty openly and got away with it, not because of his music
>>220185375His superbowl half-time show got more ratings than the actual game. This was before his allegations.
>>220185375He peaked in popularity before the allegations, retard
>>220183643>after 2 weeks it's going downyou made that "Mario Galaxy flopped" thread, fagotron mensch?
>>220185550he was the most popular musician in the world for a brief period. Like Elvis, The Beatles, Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake, etc. the reason he stayed famous was because he molested kids, which kept him in the mouths of every late night talk host even when he stopped making music
>>220185274nice lie
>>220183880>>2. Mariah Carey - 19wtf man. MC needs a biopic. blax girlbosses stans up!
>>220185606Literally just not true at all. You have a very warped understanding of his fame. Everyone around the world knew him and his songs, in America he became a figure of controversy and ridicule but he retained a loyal fanbase and outside America continues to be immensely popular. Brown people don't care about the allegations, the music has always been paramount
>>220185606Thriller came out in 1982 and Dangerous was the highest selling album of 1992. I wouldn't say 10 years is a "brief period"
You don't have to like the guy to enjoy a movie about him
>>220185746yes and Taylor has reigned for 18 years and counting
>we will get Smooth Criminal kino in the sequelYeah, just make part 2 already.
>>220185773You kind of do when the entire movie is just "Michael Jackson was a messianic figure who worked for world peace and only evil people would disagree"
>>220185788and she's released nothing memorable since 2014.
>>220185824I really hope they do that sequence the way they did the Thriller video because if so that's going to be fantastic.
>>220170753Ive come around to the idea that he did not do it. Very few accusations look like they might even be real. Tons of the descriptions of thing like kids in his room leave out the fact that the room they describing has three stories.
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>>220185964AI concludes MJ is innocent
>>220170753insider herepart two will embrace the allegations and show him as one of the good pedophiles
>>220185998Lole>good pedophile
>>220185901>>220185914>>220185933>>220185947>>220185964>>220185976Thank you for the invaluable insight, sanjay
>>220185998the true enemy is those evil children who can't keep their mouths shut
>>220186040if you go back and watch Moonwalker with this in mind, its basically a story about a good pedo fighting a bad pedo to save the kids
>>220185998That's how every pedophile sees themselves. That's what people don't get. It's not so much that Michael denied raping kids but that as a pedophile he literally doesn't see anything wrong with it. In his brain fucking a little boy is just sharing love and affection. They all use this argument if you're familiar with psychological profiles on them and Michael was no different, it's so obvious. The man was delusional and no one around him had the spine to tell him
>>220186086I'm not a jeet, I just found this AI's writeup to be practical, factual, amd concise enough for the plebs of this board to understand
>>220186125In your brain MJ is fucking little boys. In reality MJ had slumber parties and showered them with gifts as if he was their peer
>>220185998>MJ biopic where he's depicted as the Alexander the Great of music, even down to the pederastyI'm thinking kino
>>220186172I've never showered my peers with gifts I have bought many gifts for girls in the hopes they'll blow me
>>220186213Speaks volumes about your character compared to MJs
>>220186255nigga you seriously walk around buying random dudes presents? if I went into the office and said "Hey Mark, I bought you a sweatshirt. No reason, just out of the kindness of my heart" Mark would be suspicious as fuck
>>220186309When I was a child, me and my friends would get each other gifts for birthdays and holidays. It was obviously our parents money but yes, gift giving is part of many Americans childhoods
>>220170753>>220170753>Don't open the can of worms by doing a sequel movieIts afraid.
>>220186125to be fair, some pedos are sadistic rapist psychopaths, and others are groomers.still all bad though, but there are gradations.
>>220186341yeah going to a friend's birthday party and bringing a wrapped present when you're 8 is normalgiving other men random presents for no reason is creepy and weird
>>220186309>>220186341NTA but if you were a billionaire with the mindset of a literal child buying any random shit that catches your eye from wiffle balls to amusement park rides in order to befriend other kids (who you see as your peers) is very in-character if you think of everything in those terms.
>>220184459>and the entire world wants to hear it.*half of the entire world. Only women listens to Taylor Swift. Speak for yourself foid.
>>220185901Thanks Grok
>>220186509No one but you is talking about men giving men presents. I said MJ saw himself as the children's peers and gave them gifts in turn >>220186525My point exactly
>>220186562If AI says MJ is innocent, he must be innocent
>>220186147>brown guy pretending to be whiteI'm going to call you Kumail Jackson
>>220186636Ignore the brass knuckles, here's a selfie I took like 30 minutes ago
>>220186538>I hate a wholesome, all-american blonde hair blue eyed heterosexual girl>but I worship a degenerate nigger faggot pedophile the absolute state of buckbroken chuds
>>220186591if elons ai says mj is innocent it means elon is a pedo
>>220186688Taylor Swift is a jewish psyop and MJ is the King of Pop. You should be listening to MJ
>>220186695We already know Elon is because of the epstein emails
>>220186727>little girls FTW!!!
>>220186688>a wholesome, all-american blonde hair blue eyed heterosexual girl>Taylor SwiftLmao and you're calling US Brown
>>220186686Nice pic. Did Grok make it for you, Kumail?
>>220181894>if orange retard was guilty they would have nailed him to a crossyou're ignoring alot of things, while blaming the side you don't like at the same time, bravo
>>220186686you should use that oh your dating profile
>>220186772Yes saar now please send the bitcoin >>220186794Right next to my 10" knife
>>220182585Mike spent longer as Wacko Jacko than he did as a superstar, but because he had like 20 good songs from 1979-1989 people think he's like a God among stars. He's a freak with good producers. MJ's music quality doesn't even touch the Yacht Rock of the era in terms of quality.
>>220187018>Yacht Rockhttps://youtu.be/_xYOiIb2GCk?si=TA1n2Tm30edW6yzp
>>220187018>because he had like 20 good songs from 1979-1989I think it has a lot more to do with the music videos and live performances than just his music. His music is good to great at best and largely uneven, but the dancing, fashion, and cinematic, high-budget, and equally high effort MVs did more than anything to cement his legacy and image.If it weren't for that he'd be thought of along the same lines as Lionel Richie or Billy Ocean as you said.
>>220171253Mr Milkshake from Severance
>>220171644checked and based>>220173789>tfw didnt get michael performing at the inauguration all 3 timesfor me its crip michael
>>220187150https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNdo96bfGjQ&list=RDWNdo96bfGjQ&start_radio=1the official /tv/ genre is known
>>220170753>you now remember when they made a movie where Michael Jackson dances with a stop motion jackass, becomes a Transformer, performs Smooth Criminal and saves little kids from Joe Pesci>it also became a video game because why the fuck not
>>220187378you will never see it the same way again now>>220186099
>>220180552.....meant music wise not really popularity wise
>>220187378the little girl yelling MICHAEL in the game is ingrained in my head
>>220187497music wise MJ fell off by like 1987, he was eclipsed many times over in terms of technical ability and musical pioneering, but he was the dancenest negro of the times so he dominated the headlines. in reality i bet even something similarly dead like daft punk ended up being overall, a better hit factory than michael.
>>220178136>If that's true then why is he destroying his legacy and his party's future for israel?Fear of assassination. America has been so pozzed for so long that the POTUS can't even trust his own Secret Service, FBI, CIA, Military, etc...And to be fair even though America is involved with Iran now, Israel has been getting BTFO by missile strikes like never before. And Trump is just letting it happen while doing the bare minimum.
>>220181674>>220181754>>220185375>>220186688Seethe
>>220186688Get fucking real. She's a slavgoloid whore.
>>220187596Yeah that's one of the weird things about MJ, he's not even THAT good overall musically. Off the Wall, Thriller and Bad do all the heavy lifting and then there are 2-3 hits on his other albums that people know. But by and large, his concerts were songs from Thriller and Bad. He didn't improve as an artist at all after 1991, he just became a better entertainer and showman who knew which songs to perform
>>220184715Thev acclaim was inorganic and shortlived. Quite cringe indeed in retrospect and one of wokeness lowest points-- which is saying something
>>220187680he and Elvis are kind of proof that you don't need to be THAT good, just be THAT good, at touring
>>220187378>called moonwalker>barely even moonwalks in itIf they wanted to name it after his dancing, they could’ve easily named it “Crotch-Grabbin”
>Alien Ant Farm's cover of Smooth Criminal was only released because Michael liked their version of the song and he approved itkino
>>220187378If Badder was replaced by Fat, it would’ve been kino.
so then what's the modern take on this high yellow fellow? do a-groids and zoomers like this weirdo? even compared to their own micro-celebs, even with the hyper vigilance against pedos? is everyone cool with him being trans-racial?
Zoomer here. Been jammin out to thriller the past week. Any other kino albums?
>>220188234All of em
>>220188234Kai Tracid - Contemplate The Reason You Exist
>>220188172No one really knows enough about how or why his skin changed enough to feel one way or another about it
>>220171020spbp>>220170753didn't even see the movie but been listening to Bad all week. SHAMONE
>>220187596>>220187680bruh I didn't even ask, I'm just looking for some current artists that can give me the same vibes as off the wall and stuff.
>>220188326>No one really knows enough about how or why his skin changed enough to feel one way or another about itthat's one thing I have a lot of empathy with him about, I remember the Opera interview where he tells her about vitiligo, and I remember no one knew what it was and also didn't believe him.
>>220187680>Did you know that Micheal Jackson, a damn good performer, preformed?Jackson's entire modus operandi was, especially his most iconic songs, to uplift them further with him pushing the music video farther and having great live performances. As out there as he was, He was one hell of a total package.
>>220188326>No one really knows enough about how or why his skin changedhttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10654901/you might find this study illuminating
>>220188394>As out there as he was, He was one hell of a total package.he was so good that not even white racists in the south could hate him, and he was the first black artist that broke through on MTV. His videos were kino that just could not be denied.
>>220188357it's literally just pop, tardo. go listen to some pop. fucking can't stand zoomers and their learned helplessness.>help i found a genere of music, how do i get more of a genre of music!
>>220188386>>220188412See, evem in 2026 we have two different answers. No one knows the truth
>>220188470Well its not just pop but 80s pop. Thats a distinctive sound
>>220170753His music just kinda sucks
>>220187378I think this and Brutal Legend are the only good musician licensed games I can think of for very similar reasons. You really need to turn up the weird and eccentric to make something like that work without it seeming boring or derivative.>>220188234Off The Wall and Bad are very good and pretty consistent while the Teddy Riley produced tracks on Dangerous (the first six and the last one) are fantastic though the rest ranges from kino (Black or White especially) to awful (Heal The World is unlistenable).Destiny, Victory, and Triumph from his time with the Jacksons are underrated too, you can tell he had fun making those albums and jamming out with his Brothers despite the circumstances surrounding his Dad (the first one is where he started HEE HEEing and SHAMONEing for the first time).>>220188357>current artists that can give me the same vibes as off the wallThundercat
>>220171540Yes but Warwick Davies will be the stunt double
>>220188527Go back to listening to shartemfartem
>>220188502i read his biography years ago, the tl;dr in the bio was that he fucked his skin with bleaching cream.
>>220188502>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10654901/he probably had vitiligo and used skin whitening to stop the splotchiness from showing and just chose to be white as the disease would make him look eventually anyway
>>220188502this nigga didn't have vitiligo, which is a known disease and follows known patterns. he got skin whitening. you're right, without his medical chart nobody "knows" but i can also just look at a nigga with vitiligo and look at MJ and say yes this wide nose having nappy headed ass NIGGA did definitely bleach himself and get a bunch of race-swap surgery. "vitiligo" didn't give that nigga hairplugs.
>>220188587>>220188622If you look at videos of skin lightening cream being used it doesnt produce results like MJ. Also, he would have had to have slathered himself i the stuff from head to toe. Unlikely
>>220170753michael jackson is my favorite pedophile
>>220188635>race-swap surgeryThats not a thing though
>>220188573I mean atleast that would be new
>>220188672Hitler is my favorite dandelion. See how you sound?
The guy who plays him is fiiine
>>220188694Trap rap has been stagnant for 20 years now
>>220188687Nobody tell him about the Asians westernizing surgeries
>>220188687>Thats not a thing Not familiar with the legend of Oli London huh
>>220188666he was using the shit religiously from a young age, and it was gradual. bleaching cream can cause vitiligo, he obviously just went with it and turned himself into a white woman.
>>220188713And thrillers been old for 40 years, anon.
>>220188735I've seen what they do and its not race swapping and its not skin color changing. You're comparing a face-lift and bone shaving to a completely new skin color
>>220188745chuds are such demonic freaks lmao
>>220188759Nobody said MJ was new
>>220188687this doesn't even deserve an attempt at engaging with the b8, just a highlight and silence so everyone knows where you shit your pants from the stupidity collected in your body
>>220188760Bruh they literally do full body skin bleaching
>>220188798Ok
>>220188788>chuds are such demonic freaksFor him it was the opposite, he was a demonic freak who believed he was Korean after getting obsessed with BTS and got surgery to look Korean like a Koreaboo Buffalo Bill only to change his mind and discover God later on after realizing he humiliated himself in front of everybody
>>220188702a fucking genius?
>>220188855he was a grifter who got paid to become a chud influencer and now basically doesnt exist anymore because his chud contract is over
>>220171644checked based and redpilled
>>220188815Show me an example of race swap surgery you clown. Lmao the media would never shut up about it if it was real. /x/while shit right here>>220188823I'd like to see an example
>>220188901>chud influenceroily has always been gay and trans lmao, they are actively trans, right now, and still squarely leftist my dude
>>220188901>and now basically doesnt exist anymore because his chud contract is overNot surprising but its still a funny story overall.Also I just checked in on him and apparently he got back into the Korean thing despite rejecting the gay stuff and got his cock size reduced to 2.5 inches lmao, he also apparently had a fling with some French porn star. What a weird guy.
>>220188930how about you get off your fat fucking ass and google it you little bitch? "oh i don't believe something on the internet" then exit the fucking thread and plug your emaciated raisin of a brain into whatever shit hole you get your news from and fucking read, idiot. i'm not your dad and i'm not your firend and we're not having a frienddly discuission, kys.
>>220188930>I'd like to see an examplejust google indian skin bleaching, that shit is huge in indian and SEA.
>>220188930>I'd like to see an exampleOli London, we're talking about him ITT. He literally got his cock size medically reduced because he wanted to truly become a Korean.
>>220189044Ive seen it and it doesnt at all look like MJ>>220189042Kek u mad? U maaad. >>220189061Thats a memed retard, not an example. He didnt change race or skin color
>>220188930https://ozheanzoey.com/2022/01/Look up any of the 10 different procedures to acquire "glass skin" as they call it
>>220188992>and still squarely leftist my dudelol then why is he a chud influencer and writing chud books and part of the far rights agenda retard
>>220189090>its not as effectiveGreat, now that we both acknowledge its a real thing, any questions
>>220189099>then why is he a chud influencer and writing chud books and part of the far rights agenda retardthis is basically like saying if megatron and optimus aren't real then how did they start fighting on my tv
>>220189098This very document says that these procedures don't give exact results and can cause significant bodily harm. This isnt what MJ did>>220189133Wtf are you talking about
>>220189090>be retard>say retarded things>get called a retard>"I am trolling actualy, and I made you mad!"a cope as old as time. you're doing all this to defend a nigger child molester, btw.
>>220189170Your post. We are talking about your post
>>220189170>don't give exact results and can cause significant bodily harm. This isnt what MJ didUh how's that different to what MJ did. And how does that change anything
>>220189144your mind has been raped I think
>>220189183I'm laughing because you have no evidence and you're so pissed off. I'm still right, we have no idea what happened with his skin>>220189256It doesn't sound anything like his situation or what he visually looked like when he was white
I like, possibly even love Michael Jackson but Blacks who try and defend, deny, or outright lie about the negative aspects of him in order to defend his honor are really bizarre to me and often very funny. The flaws and controversies are a huge part of why MJ has endured and remained interesting and popular, and to blindly defend him like he's some sort of king, messiah, or dictator is really bizarre.
>>220187378Moonwalker kicks ass. Love that fucking game.
>>220189303>what he visually looked like when he was whitehe wore makeup lolhe had chemically induced vitiligo from years of bleaching his skin, it got worse the older he got, it's why he wore a glove for years, and why he eventually turned white.
>>220189303>we have no idea what happened with his skinwho is we bitch do you live with your fat mom? no, i know what happened to his skin and so does anyone who has eyes and zero proclivities towards defending dead nigger child molesters: he did a bunch of facial reconstruction surgery, hair treatments, and skin lightening until he thought he passed as white. there is no fucking disease on this planett that takes a detroit nigger and makes him look like a wine aunt from pasadena. either you believe this can "just happen" or you're acting like you do, which means you're still just as retarded as if you really did.
>>220173583>the sequels will also likely be big moneymakers unless they're unwatchableMichael is basically The Jolson Story all over again. My guess is there'll be one sequel, which won't do as well, but is still a hit, like picrel.
>>220188788>>220188901>>220189099havin a melty are we?
https://youtu.be/mJqApesZr-0?si=ByeFsWKh6-s9wUvN
>>220188394He was the completely package >hit songs with universal, cross-genre appeal >incredible music videos that were more like short films >unique fashion for each song, music video and public appearance >remarkable dancing ability and movement >one-of-a-kind voice, distinct vocal inflections no one else had >spectacular, elaborate concerts >eccentric personality that made everyone talk about him even if they didn’t know much about him No one even comes close to having all these things rolled in one, he was in his own league
>>220187629>Letting it happen
>>220190585Astonishing how little MAGA cares about this blatant Jewish corruption lol
>>220188470dumbass go eat a poptart>>220188552love him and I get why you said it because he gets groovy as fuck but it still doesn't scratch the same itch
>>220190169>hit songs with universal, cross-genre appealNon-provably psuedo-point>incredible music videos that were more like short filmsSo what? Michael Jackson didn't direct the music videos.>unique fashion for each song, music video and public appearanceI'm supposed to like him because he wore weird clothes?>remarkable dancing ability and movementI don't listen to music to watch dancing>one-of-a-kind voice, distinct vocal inflections no one else hadYes, and it's pretty off-putting>spectacular, elaborate concertsA lot of your points seem to be the same point of being flashy and expensive. That's marketing, not talent.>eccentric personality that made everyone talk about him even if they didn’t know much about himYes, he was a freak. That's not a good thing.
