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Thoghts on this line from The Matrix
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There clearly was a spoon, though. Bad writing.
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>>220172673
I don't like how they just get neos body
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>>220173042
This. They still adhere to the laws of the matrix within the matrix and there was clearly a "spoon" there.
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>>220172673
Why's he got cancer
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>>220172673
It's not as smart as it seems to relate Buddhist self-effacement to the dream state provided by the Matrix where the spoon is LITERALLY an illusion. Though maybe the films would have been more interesting if they'd continued down that path
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>>220172673
I love spooning with my niece
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yeh
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always found it weird that they added this dog soldiers reference
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>>220172673
The kid was trying to tell Neo that he was still fixated on the Matrix as part of physical reality.
So he had to see the spoon as not a physical tangible object in order to bend it.
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>>220173209
....MODS?
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But I did have breakfast
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>>220172673
egg?
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>>220173137
>There is not cancer
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>>220172673
Babby's first dip into Taoism
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>>220173257
Spoon was far too based be in this troon flick
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>>220172673
So if I hit you with this spoon it won't hurt you? If I use it to eat a bowl of cereal all the milk and lucky charms will just fall into thin air? If I jam it into your eye socket it'll go through your head?
>Well yes but you see conceptually the spoon doesn't exist-
And conceptually matter can't be created or destroyed and we're all just clusters of atoms but I can't phase my way through a wall or ingest food with my feet and if my body gets fired into the sun the sun ain't going to become 210 pounds heavier.
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>>220173189
>>220172673
Lets be generous and say this is an applicable exercise in lateral thinking. Sure we cant bend the spoons with our mind, but if we understand its not exclusively ‘a spoon’ but is actually everything the matter can do or be used for, we can see through its limited use and bend its purpose for example using it as a lever or melting it down for some emergency use. Things we do not use spoons for
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>>220174374
gotta start somewhere, remember Neo was a recluse antisocial nerd
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It's pretty straightforward and the make-a-wish kid spells it out for you. The world only exists as your perception of it, so by changing yourself you can change you perception, and therefore the world. Follows on directly from Morpheus saying
>How do you define "real"? If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste and see, then 'real' is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain
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>you will see it is not the spoon that bends, but yourself
the kid was coming on to neo
those wachowskis were freaks, i tell ya
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>there is no troon
what did they mean by this
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>>220172673
The entire point is to show how laws of nature are only variables, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S INSIDE THE DIGITAL MATRIX
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>>220175455
But they aren't and ywnbaw
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Does the kid smoke crack with the spoon, is that why he’s bald
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>>220172673
>Neo & Egg
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>>220173042
The writing was fine. The VFX department got a script with a smudge on the "no."
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>>220172673
If the spoon is imaginary then bending it isn't very impressive

I have an imaginary gf who shits cinnamon cupcakes into my mouth

That would only be impressive if she was real
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>>220172673
I just realized the guy on the right has cancer…
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>>220175604
I think that’s impressive
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>>220174343
>doctors hate this one trick
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>>220174882
She cute.
Name?
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>>220175604
It's not imaginary, any more than the characters in a video game you are playing are imaginary. They're real 1s and 0s
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>>220174678
>And conceptually matter can't be created or destroyed
Wrong, matter is not a conserved quality, experimentally, matter is created by particle pair production and destroyed through annihilation.
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There is no spoon, it's all lines of code. They don't need to breath, the Matrix is an illusion to keep you asleep in your pod.
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>>220176774
So if someone gets those filthy rags off you and turns out your bussy nothing will happen to you in the "real" world? Sounds like you shouldn't back then!
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>>220176774
But if you die in the matrix you die in the real world so it's not that fake after all.
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>>220176907
because the brains makes it real, Morpheus and the others think they're illuminated by the truth but they're still chained to the illusion, that's why Neo in the end survives the shot, because he's fully aware at every level the matrix isn't real
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>>220172673
One of the few retarded mistakes by the tranny chowskis, was neo being given a molded spoon as he was leaving zion to go on a mission. How the fuck could a kid bend a spoon like that with his mind in Zion. Only shit that ever pissed me off with the sequels.
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>>220172673
> Neo snaps
> bends child in the middle
> there is no child
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>>220172673
>you can't bend the spoon, that's impossible
>*bends spoon*
They expected people to take this shit seriously?
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>>220179112
>*bends spoon*
The spoon doesn't exist
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>>220179072
Even the "real world" was another layer of The Matrix. Dummy.
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>>220172673
My spoon is too big!
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>>220172673
makes sense if all of reality is just a simulation. nothing is real
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>>220172673
Real meaning of the scene
>There is no penis
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i have an intense desire to caress smooth bald heads
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>>220172673
Anime morals tier
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>Do not try and bend the gender. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth. There is no gender. Then you'll see, that it is not the gender that bends, it is only yourself.
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>>220179520
top kek
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>>220179305
I AM A BA NA NA
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>>220172673
You don't "fight" Maya.
You don't "escape" Maya.

You see through it.

And once seen clearly, it loses the power to move you.
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>>220173042
A spoon on a screen is not really a spoon, it is an image.
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>>220179038
As far as I know it is Trinity who brings Neo from deatch with the kiss. Maybe The Oracle put some code on her or something that is meant to do that.
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>>220172673
Unlimited mana.
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>>220176774
Jesus, anime-style exposition for autistics where every subtext is explained in specific terms.

What the child is saying is that in so far as you see the spoon as an object of conventional reality, ie a normal spoon forged of metal, there is no spoon. It's not what you think it is. It's something that is instead open to your influence. It can be altered in a way that a real spoon could not be altered. It is not a real spoon; it's data.
You fucking sperg.
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>>220175604
only retards get impressed by things



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