I miss that era in the late '90s when we used to get films that, despite being big hollywood productions, felt counter-culture and had that sort of 'underground' rebellious vibe to them. It's kinda hard to put into words, but a lot of films felt that way. This is not something that exists at all nowadays, with everything being an ultra mega safe and polished production aimed at maximum profit.
Those were all adapted from books. The truth is that there aren't any interesting novels being written anymore so hollywood has no source material to work with.
>>220184833Damn shame there aren't thousands of years worth of books for creatively bankrupt writers rooms to mangle.
>>220184833>Matrix>adapted from book
>>220184977I guess Plato's Republic and Baudrillard's Simulation were more essays than books.
>>220184733It disappeared because Hollywood basically turned into reverse Hays code
>>220184733Films like Fight Club and the Matrix had themes of leftist resistance against fascism. But the resistance won and conquered society. Now counter-culture means being a cringy MIGA and forcing fascism on everyone anyway, and no one wants to watch movies about that. It's a crisis of culture.
>>220184977yes, it's a misinterpretation of simulacra and simulation
>>220185090>Hollywood basically turned into a reverse Hays codeWhat do you mean by that exactly?
truly
>>220185298You know exactly what he means jew
It's so over
>>220184733Cause cancel culture
Fuark
>what is it called when a massive corporation makes pop art about being counter-culture and rebelliousidk, posercore? safe edgy?
>>220188095who are you quoting
>>220184733
>>220184977Yes the basically copied Invisibles for most of it and simply cribbed the cyberpunk zeitgeist at the time. Matrix is a vibe movie, not a substance movie. "Gamer Superman" being taken so seriously for so long is hilarious, this movie was the dying canary in the rapidly deteriorating coalmine for "movies as art."
>>220184733What the fuck is there to rebel against? The stodgy old WASP culture Gen Xcrement bitched about nonstop is dead and buried. Enjoy your tranny parades and endless hordes of brown trash.
>>220185159Well, its aesthetic conquered society, and only for a time. Fascism's still pretty alive and well, it just added rainbows to things and started to pander to visible minorities - which was going to ramp up anyway, due to the immigration necessitated by the demographic crises in every developed country not named Israel. I suppose you might've exclusively meant that its ideas became hegemonic, but even still, I don't think that's so clearly the case based on where all of the world's governments appear to be turningThere was a lib-left blip, and now everyone's pivoting back to nationalism and a sort of classical conservatism before the environmental reckoning becomes too much to bear as industrial civilization slowly faces the crunch of its own overconsumptionAnyway, nothing good in film is ever being made again, feel free to enjoy the ~200,000 films made before like 2010 instead
