>>220191277
Chuck is right. Jimmy is a criminal bum who worked half as hard as him and expects the same results

Electricity made him evil. He was noticeably less evil while when while was less weak to electricity.

>>220191361
Kind of, but this really misses the mark. Jimmy was on the path to improvement. Chuck couldn't believe he was redeemable.

>>220191277
He knew Jimmy would outshine him in his own field if he didn't sabotage him

He didn't agree with naming the law firm 'Jimmy, Seed and Feed Partners'

>>220191277
According to the actor its because their mother loved Jimmy more. The other stuff about Jimmy being a con, a liar, and a cheat no matter how true were just cope.

>>220191568
Pretty much this. Envy is way more poisonous than people give it credit for

thoughts on Erin Brill?

Why was Mike so shaken after meeting Hector Salamanca?

>>220191361
Lawyers are evil so who cares? A demon thinks another demon hasn’t sinned enough lol.

>>220191277
he was right about jimmy for the wrong reasons despite being the one that would lecture jimmy about the ends not justifying the means
they were too much alike deep down

>>220191277
envy
everybody loved Jimmy despite his flaws
Chuck had to work hard for respect (but not love it seems)
I understand Chuck because I'm a lot like him.

Chuck believed in justice, law and a divine moral order that will reward his behaviour. Jimmy believes in nothing, has no morals and does evil at all yet is also rewarded. It's the hate of someone playing by the rules seeing someone ignoring them pushing ahead.

>>220192498
>tfw best friend is a Chuck and you're a Jimmy that listens to him and takes him seriously

>>220192498
>>220192519
this show taught me it's ok to bend or break the rules to get ahead

now i actually make good money and have time to enjoy /tv/

>>220191361
He was working a legitimate job during the day and studying law during his nights, he actually showed his dedication and went to the only college that would actually accept him. All he wanted was to be like his big brother and work with him, but Chuck wanted him to just stay a mail room clerk. He was also shown to be extremely jealous of Jimmy's social skills and even got pissed off that his wife liked him.

>>220192519
He's shown to do the right thing often, even Chuck admits his heart is in the right place for a lot of what he does but his methods often have unintended consequences.

>>220191277
>the guy who was right the whole time was somehow evil
we KNEW he was right before even watching the show. He wanted to protect society from his so-called brother.
>evil
What a joke.

>>220192780
>What a sick joke

The whole point of Chuck is that he's right but the show manipulates the viewer into opposing him and supporting the villain protagonist. Same with Skyler in Breaking Bad. People were manipulated into taking sides with a murderous drug dealer because Skyler was ugly and annoying.

>>220192886
>because Skyler was ugly and annoying.
She did far more retarded shit then Chuck. She's all scared of Walt and hates him, but then fucks around with her boss and tells Walt all about it, and then is shocked and embarrassed when he comes to see Ted at the office.

>>220192886
Skylar was written too carelessly. She's fucking awful in season 1, long before she learns who Walt is and tries to distance herself and the kids from him. She was just another miserable part of Walt's shitty life, trying to make her a serious character would be like trying to make Walter Jr a serious character.

>>220191277
sneed

>>220192886
Chuck rebuked Jimmy at every turn. He really did turn his life around and go straight with working in the mail room and earning the degree, but got pushed out of HHM instead of being mentored. It was also part of the irony that everyone loved Jimmy but Chuck and all Jimmy wanted was Chucks love and approval and to be closer to him.

It's evident throughout the show that Chuck is a major mentor and source of stability to Jimmy and he only goes off the deep end in Chuck's absence.
>Chuck goes off to college and their fatehrs store fails because of Jimmy
>Chuck moves cities and Jimmy falls into the criminal world
>Chuck gives Jimmy a job, he works there issue free for multiple years and even studies at night to get his law degree
>Chuck rejects the law degree and forces him out of HHM
>Jimmy does legit work with the elderly and gets a major case, is then forced out again by Chuck

>>220191277

He didn’t hate him, he was just very disappointed in him.

>>220191277
Jealousy. Instead of being honest, he masks it behind some sort of superiority. In the end he ends up sabotaging himself and his brother. That's all it was.

I can relate. I have a total fuck up for a brother and I could easily help him with getting a job where I work. But Im tired of him being in my life and how everything works out for him via my parents loving him more despite being him being a drain.

>>220193785
Is he a drain when you work together though? That's the real big question.

>>220193573
>She's fucking awful in season 1
If you guys think Skyler acts awful in season 1 then PLEASE do yourselves a favor and never get married, you'll never be happy with your wife if you do

>>220195222
I was engaged once and my family claimed she'd changed overnight but I flat out couldn't see it and I still don't even when looking back.

>>220195222
>her birthday present is a shitty handjob she's not even paying attention to
Nah Season 1 Skylar was almost a joke character.

>>220191368
Did you have a stroke or are you just retarded

>>220191629
Yeah its very clearly due to everyone liking Jimmy despite him being a lowlife. Being a successful lawyer was the only thing he had over Jimmy.

>>220193785
Love your brother anon. One day it will be just the two of them.

>>220195222
Dude shes a parody of a shitty wife. The talking pillow, the pathetic online shopping side hustle, the bad sex life. Then next season when the characterisation starts becoming more real, her first major storyline is cheating on walt.

>>220193785
Wow my brother posts on /tv/?

>>220191277
His talent lay in case law, a bureaucratic/historical type of intelligence. When you're like that, you feel envy towards people with charismatic/interpersonal intelligence. you find it in green texts
>Fucking normies
is a good example of this.

>When your brother makes your wife laugh when you can't
Can't have that. He had to go. Chuck had to get it on. Powerful electricity washed away his merited fear of Slipping Jimmy. It was between the Irish, real Cain & Abel shit. Hakuna matata.

>work hard becoming a good lawyer with a good reputation
>sleazy brother that's been scamming people since he was a kid and got his law degree from american samoa wants to be in your law firm

>>220196359
The sleazy brother that had cleaned himself up, been working a steady job for years and had been attending night school? How terrible of him to get his shit together.

>>220191277
chuck is daniel day lewis, saul is marlon brando.
>ohh i'm a method actor, everything is so serious. this is a craft, this is art, looook at me.
vs
>i didn't read this script so have that little filipino guy hold up some queue cards and lets get this over with. are there any eggs left?
saul was a natural talent and chuck hated him for it.

>>220196481
He never got his shit together, thats the point of everything that happens after chuck. Chuck was right

>>220196018
Man, it's amazing watching fucking normies actually buy into all this bullshit popsci garbage generated by feminists in Gender Studies courses because women kept failing to match up to men on measures of the only actual kind of intelligence. "Emotional intelligence" isn't a thing. "Interpersonal Intelligence" isn't a thing. You know how we can know they aren't things? Because they're learned skills, not innate traits.

You can take anybody even the most oblivious autist and, with sufficient time and effort, educate them out of ignorance on any subject including how to manipulate other people(charisma, which is not intelligence) and how to understand other people better(empathy, which is also not intelligence), but you can never make them more intelligent.

>>220196547
He had it all together until HHM rejected him, which he interpreted as being bias from Howard (which was actually just Chuck) and that pushed him back into being shitty.

>>220191277
He hates him because he knows who Jimmy is

>>220191277
Jimmy was naturally charismatic in ways Chuck simply could never be and he deeply envied that. Just look at how much he was hung up on how Jimmy could make his ex-wife laugh when he couldn't.

>>220196842
If you don’t have a wife and kids you aren’t better than me kid, fuck outta here sperg

>>220191277
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>>220192246
Why do people debate scripted tv characters like they're real persons with feelings? Are you guys completely retarded?

>>220196951
jimmy looked like a slimey, balding midget though. how much of a midwest yokel do you have to be to charmed by a guy like him.
in a professional context chuck and jimmy weren't on the same planet, and everyone but jimmy knew that.
if you think about it, the show basically reinforces the idea that social hierarchies exist for a reason and people fundamentally can't change.

>>220191277
>Why does Chuck hate Jimmy so much?
Because whoever wrote that character made it that way.

WHY DO PEOPLE DEBATE TV SHOWS LIKE THEY'RE REAL???? HOLY SHIT PLEASE KILL YOURSELVES

>>220197480
DUDE
IT'S A TV SHOW
JIMMY ISN'T REAL
WHY ARE YOU DEBATING A TV CHARACTER LIKE HE'S A REAL PERSON WITH FEELINGS?

>>220197459
>why are you guys discussing the intent of the writers of these characters that spent a great deal of time thinking about how they'd act? surely they behave randomly because it's fictional
>calls other people retarded

>>220191277
he defecated through a sun roof

>>220197544
>why are you guys discussing the intent of the writers of these characters that spent a great deal of time thinking about how they'd act?
YEAH WHY? JUST ACT THE WRITERS THE N

>>220197612
>surely they behave randomly because it's fictional
THEY DON'T BEHAVE RANDOMLY
THEY DONT BEHAVE AT ALL
BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT REAL YOU CHILDLESS MANCHILD
HOLY SHIT I HATE EAT SLURPING NIGGER RETARDS LIKE YOU, YOU'RE THE REASON WE'RE IN THIS MESS
IT'S A TV SHOW YOU FREAK
TV NERDS SHOULD BE BURNED ALIVE

>>220197459
>being this much of a fucking pseud

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>>220197459
>anon still hasn't realized that people are more inspired by fiction than by reality

>>220197692
wew lad. Not even /v/ has spergs of this caliber.

>>220191277
lawyering was another con job and slipping jimmy was a better con artist than slick chucky

>>220197850
Dude. I'm not contributing to your mental breakdown.

>>220191277
He's a dog

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>>220191368
>electricity
it all makes sense now

>>220197459
>OH MY GOFD YOURE DISCUSSING CHARACTERS ON A TV SHOW ON A TV BOARD IM GOING INSANE AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Who hurt you?

>>220191655

Cute!

Imagine if Jimmy had stayed and talked with Chuck the night before BCS started

>>220191655

Fat

>>220191277
Chuck is a prick. He blocked Howard from hiring Jimmy as a lawyer at HHM after he passed the bar. Jimmy would have probably turned out better if that didn't happen.

>>220191368
>Chuck weak to electricity
>Jimmy shoots lightning bolts from his fingertips

>>220191655
Sex

>>220191361
Chuck's problem on the surface with Jimmy was never that he was lazy. In fact, Jimmy is extremely hard working. Chuck's problem with Jimmy is he will always solve a problem using tricks and deceit. It's that Jimmy sees the off angle, the creative solution, and will always pick it, instead of doing things the 'right' way, the way they are meant to be done.

Which in fact does make Jimmy the better lawyer for representing clients. You are supposed to look for every loophole, every trick to secure the best outcome possible at the best price for your client, and it's up to the the opposing side as well as the oversight (the judge in a trial) to keep you in bounds.

Chuck is overwhelmed by jealousy, it pours out of him like a distrusting smelly puss.

>>220196359
To be fair, he should have told him straight up that he can't take him into his firm

>>220204716

But she’s fat and talks weird

>>220204771
Instead, he sent Howard to do his dirty work and Jimmy was none the wiser, then Jimmy looked after Chuck once his electrosensitivity madness began.

>>220195222
Name one loving thing Skylar does for Walt in season 1. Just one thing, for her dying of cancer, working 2 jobs to support the family husband.

>>220195222
I like when she arranged a birthday party for Walt even though he said he didn't want one, then she complained when he was late when he got back from working his humiliating second job.

>>220197459
How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?

>>220191277
He was jealous of him. I know that sounds crazy that a mega-successful lawyer could be jealous of his slacker, conman brother, but that’s what it was. He envied his happiness, his easy charm, his being the more favored child in spite of Chuck’s success. Chuck was also cursed with the sort of ego that is built around his perceived intellectual superiority, only a prodigious memory is not the same thing as being a genius, and he could see that Jimmy had him beat there, too. All that seething, unaddressed jealousy fueled all the things he did to stymy his brother’s redemption, and the guilt from it fueled his psychosis.

>>220192886
dilate

>>220191277
Most people live off the between themselves and those they perceive as lower and cant handle others doing well for themselves. He realized too late to dilo what normies do and pull the ladder so he killed himself

>>220191277
Chuck is autistic with a black and white morality. In his mind Jimmy was a bad person who did bad things. He did the bare minimum and took every shortcut. Therefore he wasn’t fit to uphold the law. He also hated how Jimmy was charismatic and likable, while he was introverted and enjoyed quiet.

>>220197459
Were you in the Dolphin Class in school? Did they let you go outside and play with the worms while everyone else studied English Literature?

>>220191277
If you'd had a sibling who is a fuck up you'd understand.

I wish I was an only child. My parents are good honest people. My father worked a blue collar job and my mother was a housewife. They were never into any degenerate shit, fucking around, drugs, etc. They don't even smoke. They're still together. I always loved them and listened to everything they taught me. I'd rather cut my own arm off than cause them unnecessary grief.

I had siblings though that were right cunts. An older sister always demanding shit they couldn't afford, doing the whole 'you ruined my life' teenager routine, just because she didn't like few sensible rules designed to protect her. Still somehow managed to get herself involved in every bit of degenerate shit under the sun. She was a fucking embarrassment to my parents and caused them no end of drama and problems. They'd be forever cleaning up her fucking mess and she was always the victim.

She even tried to involve me in her shit taking advantage of my age. Like using me to help shoplift without me being aware of it. By the time I was old enough to figure out what was going on there wasn't a store in town that didn't think I was just like her. I was practically drummed out of advanced math class in high school just because the principle ran it and had spent his time dealing with her before me.

I had brothers who were fucking dickheads. They'd make every mistake under the sun and were jealous of me being smarter and having my father's favour because I didn't cause him shit. They were always trying to sabotage me and make me look bad, competing in a game I wasn't even interested in playing.

When I got older, I figured out what they did, and wanted nothing to do with them, they whined and pulled the 'muh brother' card. I had to point out to my own mother what it would take for them to have to even try to do that. ?>ie. She never had to pull the 'muh mother' card because she never did anything to lose her son's love.

>>220206894
That sounds shitty.
I'm the youngest of four, and all four of us turned out great.
Two lawyers, a veterinarian, and a farmer. Three marriages.

>>220204784
Sex

>>220191361
Jimmy worked much harder than Chuck. That's why Chuck hates him. It takes a million times more work to climb from Slippin' Jimmy's position than it took Chuck. Someone like Chuck NEVER would have put in that sort of effort to build that case against the retirement home. Jimmy gave 110% at everything he did.

Jimmy was smarter and more hardworking, and as a cherry on top of Chuck's resentment sundae, he was more charismatic and likeable. That's why he hated his brother.

Chuck had spoiled rich kid mentality. I've known people like Chuck in real life. When they see someone they view as beneath them working hard, succeeding, and improving their situations it makes then absolutely seethe. Their delusions of superiority come crumbling down and they lash out and try to sabotage as some sort of fucked up defense mechanism for their ego. And that's exactly what Chuck did. Fuck Chuck.

>>220193753
The store didn't fail because Jimmy, we see how his dad keeps falling for conmen and giving away money.

>>220207061
The worst part is the squeaky wheel getting the grease. My parents spent so much time dealing with their stupid fucking bullshit we never really got to hang out and just do normal shit together. These fucks pull that shit all their lives too:
>get told not to do drugs
>too cool for skool
>take hard drugs
>drug addiction
>predictable results
>play the victim
>actually had sister claim she 'didn't know' she could get addicted and 'nobody ever told her'
>saying it to my face when I told her my-fucking-self when she was 12
>rehab (victim)

I was being subjected to their fucking manipulation and mind games before I could even walk, totally unfair on a nerdy kid who is a bit of a literal sperg. My brothers legit tried to goad me into doing dangerous and even lethal shit when I was very young out of pure butthurt jealousy, some of which I only remembered and pieced together later on. Tricked me into doing shit they knew would upset my father. Then I'm supposed to just forget that because just because 'bros'. Couldn't trust them then, can't trust them now. One of my brothers is very social, knows psychology and still tries to use that against me every chance he gets.

He's the fuck who went crying to my mother because I cut him out of my life. I didn't even announce it, he just showed up at my house after I got married, (he wasn't invited to the wedding and I hadn't seen him in years). Suddenly expected to be part of, and have unfettered access to my nuclear family. I just stepped outside and talked to him like Felix talking to Wreck-It Ralph until he left. He made some butthurt remark about 'So that's how it is, is it?'.

Somehow I'm always the bad guy in their minds for not entertaining their bullshit.

Yeah, like I want that fucking degenerate around my wife an kids, trying to compete with me and fuck with them. No thanks.

Goes running to my mother to use it against me because 'family' (as if they care). Trying to create an issue between me and her.

>>220191361
>bum who worked half as hard as him and expects the same results
in the same way, chuck is a loser that had to work twice as hard for the same results. He's the wagie PhD nerd seething about the dropout chad with his own business.

>>220207540
Jimmy worked much harder than Chuck. You think chuck would have crawledin a dumpster or tracked down the Kettlemans?

>>220191468
In the show he refused the concept of people changing their nature

>>220197459
Are you a newfag to media as well as this site?

>>220191277
What do you mean why? He is not real there is no reason.

>>220211206
70 IQ brownoid post

>>220211206
hilarious anon

>>220191629
I would think the two issues would only exacerbate one another
>I hate Jimmy because mom loves him
>I hate Jimmy because he’s a dirtbag criminal
The worse things he does, the more frustrating it becomes that mom still prefers him. And the more mom loves him, the more frustrating it becomes that he still acts like a dirtbag.