What are your thougths on Fargo (1996)?
>>220194255Talentless dogshit.
>>220194255The Coen's best film. Basically a perfect movie.
>>220194255>(((coen))) brothers
>>220194255The part with the chineese guy could be cut from the movie.
>>220194326No that part is what caused Marge to realize she was being too nice and she needed to become more assertive. She only went back and confronted Jerry the way she did because of Mike.
It's one of those "great but I don't want to watch it again" movies.One watch is all you need.
>>220194326I can't believe Asian guys who couldn't get laid was a thing as far back as 1996.
>>220194371Disagree, I love the movie and I've seen it several times and I always enjoy it. Marge and Norm had a wonderful marriage and seeing their little life is very heartwarming every time.
>>220194255Did you guys know they made a sort of sequel where a lonely japanese woman leaves her home to look for the buried briefcase in Fargo? It's called Kumiko the treasure hunter.
>>220194255probably the greatest movie but i haven't seen enough. i just rewatch young adult tv shows from the 2000s on my second monitor and play video games on my first monitor.
good movie, but when a movie is good I end up hyperfixating on the slight flaws that aren't even really flaws but more like inefficiencies I think they could've done a better job portraying Grimsrud having killed the wife, a 3 second shot of her on the floor without even any blood visible doesn't work very wellI know Marge clarifies it later, but still
it's a great movie
I'm not gonna debate you, Jerry.
>>220194255>le wholesome cutesy little town and townfolk juxtaposed with le epic violence.seen right through their bullshit.
>>220194541>a 3 second shot of her on the floor without even any blood visible doesn't work very wellthere is blood visible
>>220194691not that I recall, and I watched it again last week
We’re not a bank, Jerry.
>>220194797your memory sucks
>>220194255I think it would hurt like a motherfucker to peel a napkin off an open fleshwound like that.
>>220194292This nigger fell for the Trucoat
Bucky, please.
>>220194255Overall it's good and somewhat interesting, but not brilliant. Minneapolis and environs have gotten really, really shitty over the last fifteen years. Shittyapolis. The world depicted in the film isn't gone, but it has faded. One of my favorite shots in the film is when the cop pulls up to the guy shoveling the snow and we don't see the cop's face inside the parka hood. The two of them go back and forth, and relay what needs to be relayed with a large industrial structure immediately behind the houses (which reminds me of a structure in my hometown). A high trust society where they slowly put the pieces together. The long shot from above as Jerry walks out to his car in the empty parking lot with basic features (light poles, block elements) is also nice. The Coens are having a bit of fun with these aw-shucks goys, yes, but it isn't entirely sneering. I love how Carl is so fucking dumb that he doesn't just go "okay, I'll just give you a little bit more money and not mention what I've stowed, have a nice day." You don't even have to understand how to split the whole take, just know that you've got a pile stowed elsewhere (assuming you can retrieve it, of course) and you have the transportation to make a break out of the region. But then he did take a bullet so he's emotional and not thinking straight. Not that he was ever smart to begin with. He doesn't understand the split (this is the Coens sneering at the stupid goys, total assets gained/realized from the job).
>>220194825But it’s my deal!
>>220195057None of the criminals are smart. The message of the movie is criminality is retarded. If Jerry had taken 5 seconds to weigh the danger he would've thought to swap the dealer plates with a spare (he'd definitely have plates since he worked at an auto shop and car lot) and he'd have never been connected to the murders at all.He only gets caught because Gary Sinise wrote down DLR in his notebook before being shot by Gaear. If he'd swapped the plates there'd have been no connection at all and he'd have walked.
>>220194255the book was better
>>220195092It's also funny how the father-in-law hates Jerry and only cares for his daughter and the grandson, of course (not realizing that it's in his own personal interest, for the other two, to help Jerry out). "Jean'll always be taken care of." (meaning: I personally don't give a shit about you, Jerry). That's what he's telling Jerry to his face without actually saying it. For years, I read the father-in-law's refusal to hand over the money without seeing his daughter as just pure irrational greed, but there is a certain logic to it (although I can't quite articulate it just now, now that I think about it again).
>>220195297His father in law was a businessman, he simply read Jerry correctly when he met him.
I don't like that they directly lie in the beginning that it's a true story, but the rest is pretty fun.the first time watching I was trying out a friends gravity bong, and the scene with the psycho, steve buscemi, and killing the dad and the kid really scared me. people like that exist, that shit has happened
>>220194255The early scenes in the long empty road are the best. I know this movie pissed off my parents when we saw it together. They have these types of dry flat humor movies :0
>>220194371Agree. Wasn't terribly fun or enjoyable. Felt the same way about Barton Fink.Whereas Big Lebowski, Burn After Reading, O Brother etc are endlessly rewatchable
>>220195839I'm hesitant about trying O Brother, as my mom likes it. She's a chick
>>220195839Nah I’ve seen Fargo a dozen times. Barton Fink I watched a few also.
>>220195392It's not exactly a lieThe Woodchipper was inspired by this:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Helle_Craftsand Jerry is based on this guy:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McNamara_(fraudster)
>>220195882Great movie I’m a man and I like it. I forget how it ends though. I remember reading here that it’s supposed to be an allegory to the odyssey by Christopher Nolan.
>>220195935Not an allegory, it's just loosely based on it. The ending is good but more 'movie like' than the rest of it or most of their stories. The best part is the rest, just the scenes of them gallivanting about the south. >>220195057I don't think the Coens ever fully sneer at their characters
>>220194255White people stupid - recurring theme of the entire Coen brothers oeuvre
>>220196055More like some white people greedy and Marge wasn't stupid by any means, plus thankfully The Coen Brothers make movies with mostly white people in them and I'd rather have a majority white cast where some of them are portrayed negatively than have to see darkies on my screen.
>>220194255Dude should have just paid the other guy the half for the car. He had 900k. >>220194363Also that she's too naive. She believed his whole story, but he was lying. Jerry was also lying.
>>220194363One of my favorite female characters in film. She deserves to mentioned amongst other greats like Ripley, Sara Conner and Clarice Starling.
It's much better than that shitty tv show.
>>220195891McNamara had literal billions moving around, he was so far beyond Jerry it's insane
>>220196055I want you to understand that literally no other Jewish directors that ever lived would have made the slutty neighbor in A Serious Man Jewish rather than gentile. They are as pro-gentile as Jews get.
>>220196559She believed him because she had no reason not to really. But then he tried to sit in the same side of the booth as her and she finally put her foot down. Jerry is not a typical suspect so it makes sense he threw her off at first. The only connection to 3 brutal murders was a possible license plate. She had no reason to believe Jerry was involved in that. Iirc she only speaks to Jerry twice. The second time she doesn't let him weasel his way out.>>220196755Yeah shes truly a great character. One of my favorite female protagonists as well. Especially her marriage to Norm.
>>220194363>>220196559>>220198047You're right in any event as it's the most critical scene in the film as she uses the experience to crack the case. I always took it to mean that she realized people aren't always as Minnesota-nice as they pretend.
>>220198152Sometime they're straight up Iowa Rude
>>220198152Her typical cases were probably more straightforward. Jerry would throw a lot of cops off. I don't think she even thought he was directly involved when she goes back. She's shocked when he flees the scene in what is one of the funnier moments in the film. She seemed to just want a straight answer and assumed he'd find a missing car and report back to her. A lot of people worked on the lot.
>>220198256>>220198196>>220198152>>220198047>>220196755In retrospect the scenes with the pregnant cop and the guy from Jurassic park 3 are really good. Felt like a mom who knows her 10 year old son is bullshitting her and is just waiting for him to slip on his own lies.
>>220198508Queen
>>220194255I was only 8. But we had enough snow in the '96/'97 winter that we could walk right onto the roof of my elementary school. Besides the crazy weather Fargo used to be great. Now we're slowly turning into a mini-Minneapolis. Chicago nigs, Somalis, Squatemalans. Murders and other violent crimes were so rare that they'd be big news stories that ran for months and months. Now they're a weekly occurrence. And it's rarely white folks. Almost always a somali or latino of some kind. Local news' normiebook pages had to disable comments and stop posting mug shots because every comment was>Thanks Lutheran Social Services
>>220201168>Thanks Lutheran Social Servicesif only you knew the religion of the people that run "Lutheran Social Services"
>>220201449>Lutheranprotestant christian
>>220194255I generally like Coen films but I hated this one. The mixing of violence and humor just felt totally off.
>>220201449fucking idiotHow are you people so Goddamn retarded every single second of the day
