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Faggity early thread leftist.
Have any science nerds gone aerodynamic analyses of Voyager and the shuttles and other ships that've flown in the atmosphere? Someone has to have done it, right?
>>220196075Honestly I love Up The Long Ladder, total filter episode, instantly reveals if you're talking to an actual Irish person(who all find it hilarious) or a larping Amerishart screeching about Muh Heritage.
>>220196075i blame this episode for contributing to my foot fetish because of the hot irish girl who keeps asking riker about washing her feet
>>220196685I just remember the cute little gap tooth girl
>>220196685>hot irish girl That's not a thing, she's English.
>>220196847well her accent was irish
>>220196915McCoy wasn't racist, it was just bants. Spock was one of his closest friends.Actual racism was Pulaski being mean to Data. I wanted to punch that bunch into the warp core.
>>220196302Crybabby fat-assed larper.And not a very good one either.
>>220196973Androids are not a race.Data is a toaster.
>>220196973Pulaski was correct, race traitor
I can't get over how many technobabble scenes there are in Voyager. Do brainlets like picrel hear technobabble and think it's actual, smart theoretical physics? Surely my fellow STEM spergs cringe when they hear cartoony nonsense like finding a breach in an event horizon.
>>220197004>>220197016Data is literally me, I'm not going to stand for this slander.
>>220197025I hate when technobabble ruins the resolution of an episode
>>220196094star trek sex with wesley
>>220197062star trek CBT with intendant kira
>>220196075>Melinda Snodgrass remarked, "It was intended to be a commentary about immigration, because I hate the current American policy. I wanted it to be something that says sometimes those outsiders you think are so smelly and wrong-colored, can bring enormous benefits to your society because they bring life and energy. That's what I was going for. Now my boss, at the time, was Maury Hurley, who is a major Irishman and leads the Saint Patrick's Day parade. When I was describing to him what I wanted to do, I was trying to come up with an analogy, and I said it was like a little village of Irish tinkerers, and he loved it so much he made me make them Irish tinkerers. I said okay, and that's how it came about." (Captains' Logs: The Unauthorized Complete Trek Voyages, p. 181)
>>220197148>those outsiders you think are so smelly and wrong-coloredI miss how people talked because they self censored their thoughts
>>220197212before*
>>220196973>Data doesn't experience human emotion>Nonetheless, everyone is expected to be kind to him to protect his nonexistent feelings and you're a bad person if you don'tWhat did TNG mean by this? I'm ignoring the part where Data is obviously capable of emotions because the show continually tells us that he isn't even though he clearly is.
>>220197326He has less emotion and is more robotic every subsequent season. It’s impossible to rationalize
>>220197326>the only reason I'm not a massive piece of shit to others for absolutely no reason is because I don't want to hurt their feelings
>>220197371Fair enough.>>220197378Yes? The only motivation to be kind to others is to minimize any pain or suffering they might experience. If they don't suffer, what's the point? I'm not "nice" to my shoes or my toilet.
>>220197427You shouldn't need any motivation to be kind to others. That should be your default state.
>>220197525>when your Google search history all begin with “please” and end with “thank you Google”
>>220197525It's my default state when I'm interacting with living things that feel. Data is (allegedly) a nonliving thing that doesn't feel. Should I be kind to every appliance and machine I interact with? Should I say "Thank you" to my computer every time I power it on and it loads up my OS?
>>220197579>>220197597>a fully sentient android is the same thing as google search or an appliance just because it doesn't have emotionsDid your toaster have space-drunken sex with his hot blonde coworker and then keep a picture of her to remember her by after her untimely death?
>>220197664Well, that's really what it comes down to I guess. Do we respect and treats others right because of their intelligence or because of their feelings? My laptop is probably more intelligent than a spider, but I'd feel more guilty for crushing a spider than crushing a laptop (unless the laptop belonged to someone else) because the spider is probably more capable of feeling pain and suffering than the computer.
>>220197579lol
>>220197787Your laptop is not self-aware and conscious. Data is.
>>220197972Ok, so you clearly agree that there's a POINT to being kind, or you'd say we should be kind to inanimate objects if you truly believed it should be one's default state at all times. So what's the point of treating a self-aware and conscious being kindly if it doesn't care one way or the other? You're not hurting anything or making anything worse by not treating it kindly.
>>220198147Because *I* would feel bad if I was rude to a self-aware and conscious being for no reason, even if that rudeness didn't make them feel bad.
Which Star Trek character is most likely to watch their female partner have sex with another man?
>What are you looking at?>I am not looking at anything, sir. I am continuing to organise my files.>But you're looking at me.>I am sorry if I was disturbing you, sir. I will not look in your direction.>[turns around very slowly and still staring at Picard]star trek sex with data.
>>220198380I agree, actually. If I were interacting with a sentient android I would be kind and polite to it purely for my own peace of mind. But I wouldn't judge others if they didn't, because I don't believe they'd being doing anything wrong.
>>220198478I would judge others because their rude behavior creates a negative atmosphere for me. It's like if someone is screaming at a wall. Does it hurt the wall? No. But if I'm there to witness it then it negatively affects me.
>>220198478I would judge them because there is clearly something deficient about them, otherwise they would feel the same way as I do.Also this >>220198541
>>220198454Harry Kim
>>220198911That would require him to have a female partner in the first place
Poor dumb Harry > Chuck O'Tay
What (prime universe) Star Trek girl would be the best gentle femdom gf?
>>220196075>now thats what I call a wee drop of the creature!
>>220199763Cassidy Yates
>>220199875She's black and unfortunately black women have ugly feet.
>>220199989I quite enjoyed looking at Lupita Nyong'o's feet in Black Panther tbqh
DS9 > ENT > TNG/TOS > VOY
>>220200226>I fucking hate Star Trek
i'm watching this movie that Jeff is in (it also has the guy who played Thrax on DS9) and he looks cute with long hair even though it's like, greasy looking.
>>220199763Jadzia
>>220196075Ireland is the greatest planet in the Trek-verse.
>>220199763Pulaski
>>220200226Based appreciator of multi-species antagonistic alien forces including at least one race the audience can't understand.
>>220197016>>220196915>You're a Ferengi, why don't you make a deal with them?>I don't know, Jake, why don't you challenge them to a rap battle?
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Intros:VOY>TNG>TOS>DS9>ENTYou can flip TNG and VOY if the music is now important than the visuals to you.
>>220202836ent theme song is a gay song
>>220196983Kill yourself tranny faggot
>>220202836>>220202948the awful theme song of enterprise is the main reason i never watched the show.
>>220202992Same, on release, but I got past that and I like the show. I like the visuals even, showing humanity progressing to Zephram Cochran's warp drive to Enterprise.But that fucking song man...
>I've got faith, of the heart
This is the most galling truth of the entire dilemma, and one that makes the frustration irreducible: if a true, clean severance were possible, the entire moral machinery would dissolve. The slippery slope would be defanged. The knowledge could sit in the database as a neutral asset, stripped of its origin, ready to save lives without ever whispering “this was paid for in screams.” It would become just another medical fact, and the whole affair would shrink to a single, uncomfortable exception—a one-time breach of access that led to a net gain in utility, with no dangerous precedent left behind. Unfair to the victims, yes. A lie of omission, absolutely. But contained.
The tragedy is that this severance is psychologically and narratively impossible, and the episode knows it. Knowledge doesn’t exist in a vacuum because the human (and holographic) mind doesn’t store facts as isolated abstractions; it stores them in webs of meaning, inextricably linked to their source. The Doctor cannot unknow that Moset’s neurostatic shock solution came from the framework of vivisected Bajorans being experimented with, any more than Torres can unknow it when she consents under duress. The moment the knowledge is accessed, the story of its origin tags along. That’s why the deletion is necessary—not to purify the knowledge, but to destroy the narrative thread that could otherwise be pulled to unravel a future ethical fabric. The deletion doesn’t sever the knowledge from the parent; it kills the parent and the child together, a desperate act of moral quarantine.The frustration, then, is of a mind that can so clearly see the elegant logical solution—amputate the origin from the datum and solve everything—and is forced to accept that the universe doesn’t work that way. The past is sticky. The facts carry their histories. And so the physician is left not with a clean resolution, but with a choice between three broken options: keep the tainted knowledge and risk a justificatory slope, delete it and render the victims’ suffering doubly meaningless, or pretend to sever it and live a lie. All three are unfair. All three wound someone. The only thing off the table is the one thing that would feel remotely satisfactory: a world where knowledge can be inherited without the sins of its parent. That impossibility, laid bare, is the permanent, nagging frustration at the heart of the whole ordeal.
>>220203316shut up
>>220196075"Why did you beam all the Bringloidi into deep space, O'Brien?"
>>220203272even the lyrics is lame
>>220203272I'VE GOT STRENGTH OF THE SOULI CAN DO ANYTHING
>>220203353>fuckin prods the lot of em, UP THE RA
>>220203272>>220203703Love hurts, love scarsLove wounds and marks any heart
>>220196865It's called acting anon.
>>220197787shut up, fag
>>220203449you is lame
star trek is racist
>jake smells bad
>tell me about your sexual organ
>>220203032faggot alert
>>220197664I bow politely to my sister’s vibrator when I enter her apartment
>>220204762i need you to go fuck yourself
>>220204829>Admiral Janeway That's one way to make sure she never commands a starship again.
>>220196847Women should wear loose knit sweaters with no bra more often.
>>220204558I like the baseball episode of DS9 where it’s confirmed the federation supports academic papers about humans being space negro
>>220204902that one is especially enjoyable because sisko is the one telling the story about how he nigged out and embarrassed the entire human race.
>>220204856>gets an entire fleet lost>commands every ship to take on a Talaxian "advisor"
>>220197787>My laptop is probably more intelligent than a spider, but I'd feel more guilty for crushing a spider than crushing a laptop (unless the laptop belonged to someone else) because the spider is probably more capable of feeling pain and suffering than the computer.On spiders, intelligence, and feelings...https://youtu.be/7jjbxK7opLU
>>220204873They should also wear their hair loosely, about their shoulders...And women... Use restraint when putting on your makeup... A woman should not look "made up".
Why didn't they use replicators to make more dilithium after the burn?
>>220205579mainly because literally no one cares about that alt timeline garbage. also because you are a faggot. so i wont even give you the real answer.
>>220204902its nice to see people are starting to notice how racist star trek is.
>>220205620I know, right? Isn't it fun? To be racist, I mean. If there were no racism at all in Star Trek... Or real life, even... How absolutely dull it would be.
>"romulans could be here" he thought, "I've never been in this sector before. There could be romulans anywhere." The cool wind felt good against his bare chest. "I HATE ROMULANS" he thought. Beyond Antares reverberated his entire car, making it pulsate even as the 9 credit saurian brandy circulated through his powerful thick veins and washed away his (merited) fear of aliens after dark. "With a starship, you can go anywhere you want" he said to himself, out loud.
>>220205579Diliithium and Latinum can't be replicated for plot reasons
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>>220206063Why does B'Elanna care about cardassians anyways? It seems like she joined the maquis just for something to be angry about all the time.
>>220206096When your friends are racist they rub off on you
>>220206109What if they're a bunch of leftist faggitty fascists who demand that you believe each and every thing they believe, or suffer the fruits of their wrath?
>>220206029Surely they've solved that problem in the 1000~ years between the classic Trek timeframes and the far future from Discovery etc.
>>220206357Blondie's thighs in that episode are pure neuron activation for me.
>>220206393i told you to shut up, faggot. no one cares about the inconsistencies of non canon smut. when i say no one cares i mean literally that. dont even care to shit on it.
>>220206665fuck off brownoid
>>220206665Nta but I'd like to see some sort of conclusion to all the nutrek. An AI episode where a newly promoted Lieutenant (j.g.) Harry Kim's first day at Starfleet's temporal research station ends in disaster as he accidentally erases the nutrek timelines they were studying for example. Something that destroys it utterly.
I'm sure VOY "Repentance" aka the "maybe they commit more crimes?" episode is gonna get disowned and people will clamor for it to be censored/pulled from streaming
>>220196973So are you saying that the Federation should condone acts of violence against those who hold beliefs that differ from your own?
>>220206096Every eppy of VOY takes place in its own timeline. You can't use the character traits, ship supplies, or even physics found in one 'sode to inform another.
>>220206761Something I like that would only tend to canonize it. The only way to destroy it is to ignore it completely.
>>220206761i proposed a voyager enterprise crossover movie trilogy to do exactly thatfirst movie is admiral janeway being sent back to ent. their tech cant get her back but they can send a message to the future to rally the voy crew to figure out how to save her. 2nd movie they got janeway back but accidently brought archer with her. they can send him back but first they need to defeat a sheliak. meanwhile something is fucky with Romulus and T'pol wants to check it out so they try to dress up the nx01 refit like a pleasure cruise. hilarity ensues. third movie archer and janeway and the voy crew go back in time and meet up with t'pol at romulus to discretely extend the stars life another billion years. ends with janeway and the voy crew time warping around the sun. pan to stars, diana muldaur voiceover>space: the final frontierother prominent guest star voices are added as they proceed through
>>220206761Either have Q snap his fingers and we see a brief montage of ships from Kurtzman Trek vanish OR start in the middle of what looks like Kurtzman Drek but have a character say>Computer end program.to let us know none of it was real.
A conversation between this guy and Barclay would be priceless.
>>220207069Riker running a holodeck simulation of what the future past and future would be like if things were extremely gay.
>>220197025I really like voyager overall but yes the technobabble can stop an episode dead when they pause whatever interesting thing is going on and just spout a stream of unrelated or made up science terms at each other for minutes on end.
I love the Memory Alpha pages that are made up technical terminology spouted in a single line of technobabble explaining why they can't do something and never again mentioned across the entire franchise.
At the risk of bringing up n*trek I'd rather technobabble (which makes sense in-universe) over juvenile "Take the space thing and make it do that shit!!" dialogue
MEATBAG FUCKING SHITS
>>220207239>the TNG 'sode in the runabout where Geodi talks about touching plasma with his hand
>>220207443I LOVE SCIENCE!!!!!
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>>220198964I don't think anyone was able suspended their disbelief when confronted with this.
>>220205551Riley is my spirit animal
>>220207239I've been thinking about this lately, TNG and DS9 had their fair share of technobabble but somehow they tended to make some sort of intuitive sense while in Voyager shit frequently just went off the rails
1 Cardassian vs 20 Bajorans
>>220208116I saw in one of those many Star Trek behind the scenes things that at some point someone made a little program that generated Star Trek sounding technobabble mad-lib type things. As a joke. Then years down the line they were using it unironically and putting the stuff it generated into scripts.
>>220197025A STEM sperg had to rubber stamp all that technobabbe in the first place
>>220208097Just add to your headcanon that she was nothing more than a holodeck program that he didn't bring with him.
>>220208116It's the lack of chemistry between most of the cast of Voyager. Geordi and Data's technobabble is more like a conversation between friends with a bunch of nonsense words thrown in.
>>220207218>>220207555This actor did a great job honestly, one of Voyager's best guest spots
>>220208205>lack of chemistry between most of the cast of Voyager.I reject your hypothesis
>>220208116IIRC Ron Moore said that the VOY writers were instructed to add technobabble whenever they went under 44 minutes.
>>220206787The trek moment that inspired a generation>>/wsg/6138668
>>220208208Agreed 100%. He was a lot of fun.
Think I'm gonna skip Hollow Pursuits, feel like it'd hit too close to home.
>>220208208He was also in an episode of Enterprise, called "Carpenter Street".
>a man functionally identical to Riker succumbed to Maquis ideology and became a dangerous insurgent in just two years>his voice and handprint gives him the clearance of a commander and nothing was done to counter this when he re-joined Starfleet, let alone when he became a suspected terroristEpisode's great but the opening premises are really pushing it
>>220207218>>220208208Imagine the things Barclay would make him do on the holodeck...
>>220206836>'sodeKill yourself
>>220208274Let me show you a magic trick >The trek moment that inspired a generation>>>/wsg/6138668
>>220206809>So are you saying that the Federation should condone acts of violence against those who hold beliefs that differ from your own?Yes.
>>220206787It's "Shake Like Me" all over again, keep your discs close to you anon.
>>220208801It’s a pretty rare case
>>220206809>>220208985
>>220208801the maquis were objectively right and utilized legimate military tactics. they didnt lock out thomas because patriots were in control. and then sisko ruined everything being a nigger, again.
For me, it's Lt. Neeley.
