How unbelievably hard is this going to bomb?surely no ones cares about this anymore right?
>>220196641>starslopgrow up
it can not fail. Mando appeals to men and teens, Grogu appeals to children and moms, Star Wars appeals to nerds and general movie audiencesI think we're about to see something big like nobody's ever even seen before. Numbers nobody's even heard of before
>>220196641General audiences are going to think you need to do homework to understand it. No one wants to have to watch shows to understand a movie.
>>220196641For some reason, 350-450 million seems like the likely range to me.
I'm gonna guess 250,000,000 BO and then a quick turnaround to Disney+ where it should've stayed.
>>220196716I would've guessed that but pretty much every movie is bombing right now and that was before the war. I think it'll underperform pretty significantly because people aren't in a hurry to watch any movie and things are getting expensive and it's cheaper to watch other things and wait.
>>220196641Nothing about Star Wars has yet to make me stop caring about Star Wars. There are a few bits and pieces of Star Wars media that I don't appreciate like the Holiday Special but I still care for new Star Wars things and I hope that this does well but it probably won't
>>220196702First movie to make one Mandillion dollars at the box office
>>220196773The holiday special is fine art compared to shit like the rey trilogy and d+ shows. I'll watch lumpy fantasize over bea arthur any day over that shit.
>>220196702>it can not fail. Mando appeals to men and teens, Grogu appeals to children and momsThat was true 6 years ago. They dropped the ball hard on this.
>>220196641>groguslop>baby yeedkino
>>220196641How much more would it make at the box office if it were titled "The Mandalorian and Baby Yoda"?
>>220196641I predict>240m Domestic>329 International
>>220196925It would've made close to a billion nearly a decade ago. Now it doesn't matter what they named it. Spent too long fucking around.
>>220196825Why was Bea the hottest Golden Girl?
>>220197198She wasn't. Prime betty white mogs her.
>>220196641Mortal Kombat 2 will be more profitable.
>>220196711Their instincts are right too. According to people who were invited to watch the first 15-or-so minutes, the movie comes right out of the gate assuming that you have watched the TV showsIf you haven't seen Mandalorian, Book of Boba Fett, and even Ahsoka, you're not really going to know what the fuck is going on
>>220196641It will do moderately well or better. Stop being cynical for the sake of being cynical. You obviously aren't the intended audience but even if you were, something tells me that nothing would suffice. It's ok to not have to pretend to hate something because you think others are doing it.
>>220200018>You obviously aren't the intended audience Who the fuck even is anymore? >something tells me that nothing would sufficeThis is an easy excuse for putting out low quality products. Face it, the Disney+ TV Shows have not been good. Mandalorian S1 was alright, had some moments, but everything after that was a trainwreck and you know it. Ashoka was bad. Book of Boba Fett was bad.This movie, as something of a crossover of those 3 shows, warrants skepticism because the previous entries have not been good. Some of us actually want to like Star Wars again, that's what you don't understand. Your defensive mechanism is to just say "well you just WANT to complain!" - but that's not true. The complaints are only there in the first place because on some level we still wish for Star Wars to be good again.If we truly didn't care, we'd be apathetic, not disappointed.
Disney is paying for my ticket
>>220196641https://deadline.com/2026/04/box-office-star-wars-the-mandalorian-grogu-forecast-1236877031/It will do very well.
>>220196641Ill watch it, I'm not gonna pay for it though
>>220196641After S02 would have been peak. The hype was strong and they would have killed it at the BO. After Book of Boba Fett and S03 the hype was long gone and dead.
>Mando vs Grogu starts>oh hey it's the scruffy Tatooine mechanic dyke haha woohoo>oh look it's Carl Weathers yaaaay haha>omg it's Zeb Fartlebox from the hit show Rowdy Bunch no waaaay>is that ... is that Starbuck again! I love when Starbuck shows up in other stuff that's not BSG love it go girl!!etc...
>>220196702You sound like an out of touch Disney exec
I think grogu is cute
>>220196641if favreau wasn't allowed to make it well, will be a tragic fail. imo filoni isn't talented
>>220202373You forgot the most important part, anon.>be sure to buy a D+ subscription to see all these wacky characters in their brand new spinoff shows!
so why do you guys hate this again? is it just because grogu was popular with facebook moms or whatever?
>>220202511It's not even him there, they film it in a warehouse, you can see how lame it was by final episode of S1
>>220202511Because the show stopped being good after the first season and instead became "wow look it's [guest character from upcoming streaming show]" every second episode, even to the point that they had to put Mando in half of Boba Fett's show after Fett had already done a cameo in Mando's show. Nobody cares about Bo Katan trying to resurrect the Mandolorians or Ahsoka doing gay shit with her besties or Blurp Cruddo and his upcoming animated comedy show, they want to see Mando and Yeed going on adventures and hunting bounties or some shit.Also middle aged women stopped caring about Baby Yeed long before they gave him an official name, nobody knows who the fuck Grogu is.
>>220196641>image is almost edgy>title is kindergarden tierYeah, it's written by baby brained liberals. Nothing good will come out of it.
>>220200301>$80 mil. opening weekend So it's going to match Attack of the Clones, oh great. >INFLATIONoh
>>220202596People cared about Mandalorians getting reassembled because that was Mando's arc, then the entire arc got basically handed to a female guest character because the entire company is run by hags.Even the arc they did give him got so badly fumbled that they essentially finished his character arc and didn't realize the show is still going.Whenever you think Disney managed to max out their mismanagement they surprise you further.
after the first season, the leftoids at disney got mad that everybody liked a based episodic cowboy show, so they decided to kill it and use it to advertise their slop shows.how andor got away with being based is beyond me, all the creators must have sway somehow.
>>220196702>menMen dont exist in the west anymore. Extinct speciesYou must be talking about the castrated eunuchs who watch movies, play video games, mask and vaxDomesticated cattle livestock slave race of consumers
>>220202705if you don't watch movies then what are you doing here bud
>>220196641It's gonna be the most notorious flop of the year>>220196702Your attempts failed the other day, Disney shill
>>220202719I didnt read a single word you typed beyond YouYou vaccinated fucking retarded urbanite porn masturbating sub human genetic trash
>>220202511because Mandalorian had real promise in Season 1 then Disney went full retard and did s2, book of boba fett, ahsoka, and s3 which were all garbagethis movie is a culmination of all of those storiesif 9/10ths of the preceding material is garbage how much hope am I supposed to have for the movie exactly?
>>220196641My bet is it's going to top out at about 650k domestic. It won't bomb. No reasoning behind this, just feels about right.
>>220202679It was fine when it was implied to be him and a few others, maybe a handful of scattered groups around the galaxy basically retaining the old ways of the Mandalorians in secret.That was kind of kino, but once they basically pulled a "mom says it's my turn to have this story arc" bait and switch it was like okay, what's Mando even doing in this story anymore? He's not hunting bounties, he's just hanging around with Yeed.Then he palms the babby off to Luke and I don't really care about what happens next because I assume it's all more gay crossover shit.
>>220202756>650kThat would be a gigaflop
>>220202763let me try to remember what happens>gives Yeed to Luke>Yeed spends like a week with Luke but misses Mando>goes back to Mando>big fight with crazy chicken guy from BrBa>everything is "resolved" (?!)>Mando and Yeed now live on some farm in the middle of nowhereIt's really stupid because they keep giving Mando and Yeed closure like their arc is finished or finalized or whatever and then they just want to make more of it so all these "touching" sappy Mando/Yeed moments mean fuck all.
>>220202741
>>220202756this is the first star wars movie that has been in theaters since The Rise of Skywalker 7 fucking years ago650k is barely above what SOLO didthat would be disastrous
>>220202805yeah at the end Mando basically retired to a little bungalo with the caveat of master chief's "wake me when you need me"
>>220202813Back then the audience was still there.Young people these days don't give a fuck about SW since that's uncslop for them.Sure, they'll get the latino audience that show up with 10 kids and 15 cousins in one go, but that's pretty much it.Also most people know that these days movies go straight to streaming 2 weeks after they hit theaters so no real reason to exert, might as well just watch it streaming.
>>220202805>>220202828Thanks anons, I fucking hate it. Glad I never bothered to watch it.
>>220202860yeah it was extremely lame all the way through
>>220202860worst part is he became a side-character in his own show in favor of Bo-Katan, if you even know who that is (the general audience sure as fuck won't)
>>220202876>little babby Mandos wearing the helmet alreadyAre they just born with them or what? I know there's the whole not showing the face thing, but surely that's only once you earn your armor after training or something, right?Why are they all just wearing the helmet and nothing else, what the fuck is this shit
>>220202903On that note what happened to her anyway?I vaguely remember her appearing maybe in Ashoka? I hate these fucking crossovers. They can't even write a proper arc to save their lives and then they further fuck it up by having major character developments happen in different shows.
>>220196641Grogu was a terrible name to give him. They should have stuck with babby yeed
>>220202918don't worry there's a whole sect now of new Mandos who think it's fine to not wear the helmet and they're actually the majority now: ) do u rike it
>>220202939seriously I get why they couldn't call him "baby yoda" but Yeed was perfectthis movie would do 1 billion box office if it was just called "Mando and Yeed"
>>220202860
>>220202903I vaguely know she's some chick from Clone Wars or Rebels or one of the other CGI shows but I never gave a shit who she was. She'd show up in S1-2 and I'd just go "oh I guess this is some mandalorian chick or something, whatever" and then she'd be like>mando I need you for a joband that's all I really needed to know.
>>220202972>>220202937Straight from Wookiepedia (the CANON section too, this is modern canon)>Despite this, Kryze would eventually reclaim the Darksaber after saving Djarin from a cyborg in the ruins of Mandalore, where she managed to bring back some of the scattered Mandalorians under one banner to reclaim their homeworld. When they arrived, she discovered survivors and an Imperial remnant stationed on the planet. They eventually defeated them and Kryze eventually relit the Great Forge, signifying the start of Mandalore's reconstruction. she got the darksaber, relit the forge, and is rebuilding mandalorThe Mandalorian (our supposed main character) helped a little bit.
>>220202961Two Death Stars weren't enough.
>>220202961The. Force. Is. Female.And Black. Jack Black.
>>220202989when the show first came out people joked that it would become The Womandalorian and that actually happened
>>220202961This cant be real
>>220202989
>>220203039it isthere was a whole episode set on that planetit was meant to be "whimsical" like the prequelsthere's 30 minutes of that shit dude
>>220202989See, I never watched whatever show she's originally from, so any time they brought up "the Darksaber" my mind automatically went to the EU book of the same name where the Hutts join forces with some former Imperial to rebuild the Death Star superlaser and make it into a big cigar-shaped ship that fires a huge planet-exploding laser kind of like a spaceship-sized lightsaber a "darksaber" if you will only for it all to fuck up because they basically tried to rebuild a superlaser with spare parts.
>>220203074book of boba fett is the most egregious dogshit in history and I will never forgive them for what they did to my boy Cad Bane
>>220202504does doing that still give them permission to murder you
>>220203100Yeah, in the new canon the Darksaber was created by an ancient Mandalorian Jedi and then became like the Excalibur for mandosIt's the sword that gives you the right to rule blah blahyou're supposed to have to take it from somebody by combat, then you rule all of MandaloreThe Mandalorian had it, but then Bo-Katan saved his life, so he willingly gave it up to her>she didn't beat me but she saved my life so that's the same thing and frankly if you think about it GIRLS GET IT DONE so now she is the ruler of mandaloreshe accepted itall of the Mandalorians also accepted itnow she's the girl-boss of mandalore who wields the darksaber by forfeit
>>220203135Bart! It's time for Lisa to play with the darksaber!!
>>220202961>CAN'T YOU SEE HE'S THE MANdo>LET ME HEAR YOU APPLAUD>HE IS MORE THAN A MANdo>HE'S A SHINY BESKAR GOD
>>220203149that's basically accurate but they had to add the icing on top that Mando gives it up willinglycould've at least challenged her to a duel and thrown it on purposethen you can save face, preserve the ritual, and only you and her would knowbut whatever
>>220203169>what the fuck is fight choreography lol
>>220203169I just don't understand it. lightsaber fight choreography was NEARLY PERFECTED over 2 DECADES AGOeven fans have figured it out how is this a major production?
>>220203183The writers' room these days is 80% women at least. They don't know how to writer proper character development and arcs. No faustian spirit.
>>220203074What gets me is these losers on their space-vespas are supposed to be a swoop gang, when swoops have traditionally just been the equivalent of the biggest engine anyone could possibly find, strapped to a seat and (optionally) handlebars.This shit looks like they borrowed Grandma's mobility scooter.
>>220203209Asking actors to actually act instead of just standing around reading lines is offensive or some shit, I don't know.It was the same with the Obi-wan show and the sheboon fighting Vader where she just rolls and crawls around while he's sitting there going "duh where did she go" for several whole seconds.
>>220203209do you really think some dumb hollywood whore is gonna go through rigorous training just to be able to fight in le incel nerd show?
>>220196641It won't bomb, it's coming out during school holidays
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/The_DuchessThe Duchess was a female human who ruled over her homeworld, Plazir-15, alongside her husband Bombardier. Their dream of transforming the planet into a paradise was threatened by the security chief Helgait's plot to sabotage the capital city's droid laborers with smuggled nano-droids. When the Mandalorians Bo-Katan Kryze and Din Djarin visited the planet, the Duchess and her husband recruited them to investigate the droid problem, while she meanwhile formed a close and immediate bond with their young companion Grogu. When the Mandalorians uncovered Helgait's scheme, the Duchess pronounced a sentence of exile and granted honors to the pair and to Grogu.The Duchess and Bombardier decided to enact revolutionary changes to remake their society according to their ideals. They held the first democratic elections on the planet; while they wished to remain the heads of state, they wanted to owe their positions to the people's will, not to family lineage.[2] They were duly elected and were seated as the Royal family of Plazir-15. Plazir-15's government was restructured according to principles of direct democracy and cultural pluralism.[1]"You see, it was time for our planet to move into a new age. We held direct democratic elections for the first time in our history."―The DuchessLizzo had first caught script writer Jon Favreau's attention through her social media posts about The Mandalorian, including a photo of herself in costume as Grogu. The whimsical character of the Duchess seemed suited for her, and she was contacted by the show and offered the role. Both actress and crew were entertained by the fact that the Duchess, like Lizzo, was a huge Grogu fan.[5]
>>220202734uh oh, melty!
>>220203230And what gets me is that for a swoop gang that specializes in swoop stuff they seem to be going at 10mph and the entire gang is struggling to stop some lesser goober also going 10mph and clearly barely controlling his vehicle.The entire thing is abysmal.
>>220203249>implying kids give two shits about the Mandafagian and Glorpo let alone anything Star Wars at this pointThe only audience for this is the handful of manchildren who are still desperately defending disney-wars on twitter. Everyone else moved on already.
>>220203268>hold an election>seated as royal familyThese writers really have no fucking idea what they're talking about
>>220196641Is that the real poster? It looks AI generated.
>>220203332It was okay when Lucas did itPadme was elected Queen of Naboo as a teenHow is this any different?
>>220203301It's even more egregious because they're doing all these wacky chase scene cliches and the entire scene is moving about as fast as pic related.
pedro pascal is going to jump off a bridge a few nights before the premiere of this
>>220203345Yeah but Padme wasn't all about democracy and equality and shit until shit hit the fan and the Trade Fed showed up, before that she was basically just "lol fuck the sea-beaners" in terms of the Gungans.
>>220203241to her credit, Daisy Ridley (Rey) actually didin all the making-of material she actually put a lot of effort into getting into physical shape and learning the choreographyit's just that the material she was given to work with was bad, and it's difficult to take her seriously the way they drafted up her fighting style
>>220203366Pedro's career is on a downturn. I think he spoke a bit too openly about a certain middleastern conflict so they pushed him out of the spotlight.He's lucky to get any publicity he can.
>>220203391force awakens was in 2015, so not quite when this whole shit was doomed yet. i wouldn't call any choreography in the movies afterward good or demanding. that throne room scene literally just has her flinging the lightsaber around while dudes fall over themselves. seriously, rewatch it and you'll notice how bad it is
>>220203345>How is this any different?Because Padme Amidala was not a "royal family"She held a title of "Queen" but was, in all functions, a democratically elected President or Prime Minister. She did not actually hold a "Royal" position. When her time as "Queen" was up she abdicated the position - there was no royal heir, no amidala royal family. As a member-world of the Republic, the real heavy diplomatic and governance work was done by a certain guy you might have heard of him his name is Sheev Palpatinevery different situations
>>220203443Even then, Force Awakens could have had the excuse that nobody was around to train Rey or Kylo how to fight, but by the second movie they somehow managed to get worse after having undergone training.And there's no excuse when it's someone like Ahsoka or whatever her name was in Obi-Wan who are supposed to be trained killers and they're just flopping limply around like they're fatrolling in Dark Souls or some shit.
>>220203443the only good lightsaber fight in the sequels is Kylo vs Finnhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJTz-ahXyyIit also lasts about 30 seconds
>>220196641I thought it looked cool, I mean I don’t think the Mando show is high art or anything but it hasn’t been the worst thing in the world. As long as the budget for this isn’t over 200 million or something it should make a decent profit just off being a summer Star Wars movie in general, I’m hoping they truly treat it like a series finale with a higher budget and not an actual blockbuster
>>220202318This 100%. Mando Season 3 was one of the worst seasons of a tv show I have every watched, with its only competition being the final season of Game of Thrones.So bad it retrospectively makes previous seasons worse.
>>220203514budget ~166m
>Favreau literally resurrects the entire Star Wars franchise against all odds>all he really does is give the audience what they want>in the tradition of aping japanese movies, he lifts from lone wolf and cub>bulletproof premise>mandalorian in a cool new armor to sell merch>cute mini-yoda immediately a fan favorite>mandalorian is not only cool himself but there are immediately hints at a larger than life destiny of becoming the leader of his people>even meeting and taking care of baby Yoda fits into this legend in the making>comes into possession of the darksaber, basically the holy sword of his people>myth crafting 101, literally cannot fuck this up>enter Filoni>hey let's give the darksaber to his favorite side character and make HER the leader instead haha>let's have Mando give up baby Yoda to cgi Luke haha>no wait people don't like that let's give him back haha>but not the darksaber, that stays with Bo Katan haha>idk Mando can go live on some farm somewhere who gives a shit
>>220196702>unironically most likely the actual Disney pitch for this projectdelusional faggots, nuSW appeals to noone, it consumed only because of nostalgia, sunken cost fallacy and cringe watch
>>220203616Filoni and his whole "any time Ahsoka isn't on screen, all the other characters should be saying "where's Ahsoka?"" shit is really insufferable. Star Wars was already dead in the water, they don't need his shitty OCs shoved into everything to weigh the body down.
>>220203616painfully accurate
>>220199879Why the fuck are they still doing this after the MCU crashed and burned specifically because of that problem?
>>220203650don't make me talk about the world between worlds, and ahsoka literally getting asspulled out of certain death
>>220196641I’m thinking it might become legendary.
>>220203657the guy also said that the opening scene is "just like a video game""in the way that you see the whole level, then it focuses back in on the characters as if to say 'level start"!so look forward to that
>>220203616Filoni was a part of this series from the start, what are you talking about? He directed the pilot. 95% of The Mandalorian and Book of Boba Fett with the exception of very few episodes was written by Favreau. He is an awful screenwriter. And Mandalorian was never particularly good. The circlejerk the first season gets for some reason is insane. The series has always been shitty fetch quests with no substance whatsoever and MCU quips. And you think it's the cameos that ruined it? Lmao. What ruined it beyond repair is Book of Boba Fett. Written by Favreau and directed by his buddy Robert Rodriguez.
>>220203683for being the final nail, maybe you do realize if this flops there won't be another theatrical star wars release probably ever again right?it'll all just be streaming maybe it should be
>>220196641Disney: >Wowsers, this show is popular on Disney +, lets make a film of it for cinemas, it'll be huge!Cinema goers: >What the fuck is this shit? Why would I go to see a film I have to watch 3 series of a show I've never seen to even understand what is going on? This is The Marvels all over again.Disney + subscribers:>Why would I go to the cinema and PAY for a ticket when it will be on a streaming service I pay for in a month or 2?Disney never learn, its sad really.
>>220203698Look everyone, a Filoni fanboy in the wild.
>>220203727Look everyone, a retard who has no argument and makes up asinine shit. A nigger in spirit.
>>220203725Don't forget the actual target demographic, Millenial Manchildren who deep-down still want Star Wars to be good one last time:>I can't go to the movies by myself, I'm almost 40>it's too expensive anyway and I can just watch it for free 1 hour after it releases in the comfort of my 1 bedroom apartment>the only people I can talk to about this movie are anonymoushaha
>>220203707There hasn't been a star wars theatrical release for the last six and a half years already, who cares if they're just going to be more of the same shit.
>>220203824that's why I said maybe it should be this way
>>220203843They're probably hemorrhaging money on streaming too, for that matter, so I get the feeling this is just them dipping their toes back in the water to see if enough people have forgotten about the sequel trilogy and it's okay for them to make money on movies again.I don't think it's even occurred to them that everyone's even more sick of disney wars now because the streaming shows have been even worse in recent years.
>>220196641Released too late + Mandalorian 2 and Boba sucked dick. Was there a season 3?Blame the makers for adding in fifty Glup Shittos from some whatever series.
>>220203909>Was there a season 3?There was and it was even worse>>220202961>>220202876
>>220203332It's a freudian slip. They talk about democracy but want to rule over the unwashed masses, and never interact with them.
>>220202734calm
>>220203868to be fair I have mostly forgotten about the sequel trilogyif they really wanted to be bold they could just timeskip 1000 years in the future and tell a totally new story where everything that happened before is ancient historybut they won't
I could stomach paying money to see Disney Star Wars when it involved Daisy Ridley's herrenrasse face on the biggest screen in the city.But everything else is just Glup Shitto slop.
>>220204185Barren xenomorph. Ugly, retarded bitch with awful accent. Kill yourself.
>>220204244you know you'd fuck her, don't lie
>>220203746Get a month's pass, its only about £10 for unlimited films, including the old films they show. If you see more than 2 films in a month you're quids in.As you now see kino in much better quality than on your shitty monitor and Poundland earphones, you only need pirate stuff thats not in the cinema.If you're ever worried about going to films alone, why not just dress up like a movie critic and occasionally make notes in a notebook. This will fool people into thinking you are some sort of big deal movie buff who writes for the New Yorker or something and garner respect rather than disgust.
>>220203616I honestly don't get the worship of Filoni. TCW was mediocre AT BEST, and total dogshit when it wasn't ripping off better EU stories. You can make fun of George, JJ, Roundhead johnson. But say one negative thing about Filoni and they become deranged maniacs. It can't be TCW nostalgia, any SW fans left are men approaching their 50s.
>>220204257No, I'd rather stick my cock into a blender.
>>220204273>muh EU slop!
Star Wars died the minute Darth Maul didn't.No fucking artistic integrity.I was outraged when Sherlock Holmes did it and I'm outraged at Disney doing it to Maul.He died.He got chopped on half and fell in to a reactor shaft. The script said he died.The novelization said he died.Maybe it was a mistake that was made.But it was made.He fucking died.I saw it happen.
>Boba Fett came back>To retire from bounty hunting>And become the "Daimyo" of a small town>He's not the mayor, there's still a mayor>He's not a crime lord because he doesn't commit any crimes>He just...>Uhh...>Here's baby yoga from your mom's favorite memes!>Don't even THINK about talking to him before he's had his morning coffeeFuck Star Wars post 2005.
>>220204279I said don't lie 2015 daisy in her rey getupyou would
>>220204304No, you didn't. You saw him getting cut in half. People survive getting cut in half. He is an alien dark space wizard. Disney didn't do it. Lucas did. Disney are the ones who killed him in a shitty DisneyXD cartoon. Kill yourself.
>>220203707You know how during the pre-movie trailers, you can hear little murmurs of interest from the audience when they see something they like? I’ve seen these trailers multiple times with multiple different demographics, and it’s greeted with dead silence every time. We’re just about due for the next great Hollywood purge. >A man has an idea.>The idea becomes a movement.>The movement becomes a revolution.>The revolution becomes the institution.>What was the idea?
>>220204321I said kill yourself faggot. This bitch is ugly, sounds ugly, and looks like she stinks.
>>220204325Nice reading comprehension retard.>I regret killing Maul, I'd bring him backOK but you did kill him George. Explicitly so.
>>220204338that why you have so many pictures of her saved and can't stop hating her?hate is the opposite of love anon
>>220204356Nta, but hate is the corruption of love. The opposite of love is indifference. My ex helped me learn that.
>>220204351Retard is your middle name.
>>220204394OK but rey is fuckable
>>220204170They already pulled that blank check shit with the "High Republic" era, and they immediately made it lame and gay.>500 to 100 years before episode 1>long after the fall of the Old Republic>there's a new, better republic where there's no war or conflict>oh wait that's fucking boring uhhhhhh shit I don't know, space vikings show up?>who fucking cares the fans will buy anything with star wars on it lolthe fans would not, as it turned out, buy anything with star wars on it
>>220196641It will do well. Not amazing but enough to pay it off
>>220204469>>who fucking cares the fans will buy anything with star wars on it lolThis was such a meme in defending shitty sloppa as well, by other "fans". Like stop critizing the innocent megacorp, it's actually the fans' fault.
>>220204298>wait why does my evil clone look like Cock Knocker from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back
>>220204469>no pro-war in STAR WARS>diversity written twiceI'm honestly glad people saw and avoided this garbage.
>>220204318>look it up>they seriously use the term "daimyo">they don't even try to pull some "it's some ancient aurebesh or mandalorian word meaning honored leader" shit, just straight up japanese terms on tatooine for no fucking reasonThe absolute state of disney wars.
>>220204513It's hilarious seeing these sorts of people still try to cling to their gay little "fandom menace reeee" memes any time something gets a bad review, as if they're not the only thing even close to a fandom for modern star wars that's left nowadays.
>>220204486>the big screen return of Star Wars after 7 years>the culmination of almost every TV show in-between>starring the 2 most popular nu-wars characters (and it's not even close"just enough to pay off" isn't going to cut it in any other timeline this should be an easy 1 bil
>>220204619>the 2 most popular nu-wars charactersMore like the only remotely popular nu-wars characters, kek
>>220204635yeah they kind of win by default
I don't care about quality. I fundamentally disagree with the idea that people are able to say some fictional stories are now super fictional, and can replace them with their somehow less fictional fictional stories, only because they had $4.2billion to spend.Inhibitor chips and Death Star being sabotaged by its architect are utterly retarded ideas, and you don't get to say the stories I enjoyed are irrelevant because your paw patrol tier cartoon or dumb fanfic by the trade federation say so.
>>220204667dude the extended universe was never canon anywayyou can still just pick and choose what parts of it you like, nobody is stopping you
>>220204743>the extended universe was never canon anywayIt's fiction anon.
>>220196641Grogu is an ugly name even by Star Wars standards
>>220204757yeah so why do you care what disney says is more fictional?that's your argument at all? what are you even mad about
>>220204743There very much are retards who insist that Battlefront 2 is wrong because it implies the clones knew they would kill the jedi. They did though.
>>220204767I don't care.My point is that it is wrong to care.
>>220204788well it matters for internal consistency going forward
>>220204765to me hell always be baby yeet
>>220204619Disney is it's worst enemy. Paying back is sadly the best they could do in 2026
>>220204820>going forwardThere is no such thing.Any Star Wars script written by Disney is no different to one written by you or me.
>>220204667>>220204777Battlefront 2 is wrong because it is shitty fanfiction third party shovelware slop that contradicts George Lucas, the creator of Star Wars, and his works. Stories you enjoyed *are* irrelevant. They have never been relevant. I'm sorry that hurt your ego. Hope that helps!
>>220204777Checked, also of course they'd know Order 66 was the kill-all-jedi button, to them it'd probably just be a contingency order like a "break in case of jedi coup" or some shit.They're not there to ask questions.
>>220204851Haven't they also got that Starfighter movie or some shit which will probably also suck ass?If it doesn't get cancelled I'm betting they'll probably pull some twist like it's not actually a movie about cool space dogfights because that's what everyone actually wants, it'll be some story about the Goose and his adopted son bonding over rebuilding an old x-wing they found half-buried in their backyard or something like that.
>>220204857well the difference is one script might actually get turned into a real piece of media
>>220204917just make Top Gun Maverick except it's Ryan Gosling flying an X-wing1.5 billion dollars ez moneybut they're too stupid
>>220204942I still remember when they were giving everyone their own series or movie or trilogy and some woman director supposedly got handed Rogue Squadron.I know it would have been shit but that's basically a fucking layup right there, they already have nine books to rip the story from although only about six or seven of them are any good
>"This person is not attractive"Uh sure thing buddy.
>>220205031finn's actor was never heard from again after he said "you ain't gonna disney+ me" kek
>>220204486>enough to pay it offThe movie costs around 200 millions dollars, it at least needs to do around 500 to break even. Considering that the burger box-office projection for the first week is not even 100 millions then it might have a chance to seriously bomb.
>>220205093>box office projectionGo on then lad tell us this week's lotto numbers yeah?
>>220203687>so look forward to thatBro I'm not gonna see this shit lmao
>>220196641Its already predicted to be the lowest Star wars movie. IIRC Han Solo movie was holding that title
>>220205076Disgusting barren xenomorph angloid.
>>220205107Nah, I'm keeping them for myself.
>>220205166will you use the money to make a good star wars movie?
>>220205124I'll be honest, I didn't even think Solo was that bad after hearing how it was apparently abysmal. The opening was shit but once it got going it was okay.Can barely remember anything about it, mind you, so I might just be retarded.
>>220205192No, Star Wars sucks.
A second star wars movie has bombed.
>>220205227No, ur thinking of Battlestar Galactica.
>>220205220it was just average, which isn't good enough for star wars
>>220205139>saar, she does not have strong upper llip hair like bharati beauties
>>220205356I mean yeah, it wasn't all that good, but from how everyone was talking about it you'd think it was on par with TLJ or some shit.I watched it well after the fact and it was an okay heist movie, I guess. But it definitely wasn't going to make its money back considering it probably cost Disney several hundred million to make.
>>220196641I bet 350mn WW. No one cares about this made for TV film apart from diehards.
>>220203238the only star wars show where they put any effort in to the fights was the acolyte https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRl6xESZz2Qand it still goes to shit the moment a woman is involved
>>220205470That's actually half decent, I'm surprised. At the very least it's dynamic and both fighters actually look like they're struggling with more than worrying if they're going to break a nail.Shit, I just realized something.>only good fight in TFA is between Kylo and Finn>only good fight in that shitshow is the two asian guysIt's like the women just don't want to put in the effort.
>>220205470>>220205593acolyte had good fight choreography but the problem is they shit the bed and pinned the story on a "twin girls separated at birth" storyline instead of just obviously focusing on your cool new masked villain and having him harass the High Republic up-and-comers
>>220205681wouldn't surprise me if it was originally two pitches that got badly merged, one about mask guy being betrayed by the jedi and him falling to the dark side to take his revenge on them, another about lesbian space witches being fucked over by the jedi.
>>220205790well since they threw in the Darth Plagueis tease, I think you're rightit was probably part of the original planned Palpatine/Rule of Two origin story idea - they wanted to do a darker show from the perspective of the Siththat probably got merged with whatever the fuck Acolyte ended up being
>>220203107RIP Cad
If it's actually decent I think it could draw in those people who cared about baby yoda and do well. My money is on bomb though
>>220205954>those people who cared about baby yodaThat was basically just white women, and they only really cared so far as seeing clips and memes reposted on facebook. They're not paying to see a movie.
>>220205899Rest in piss, should've died in the deleted clone wars episode anyway
>>220206126Fuck that. Kid Boba was a little shit and having him killing Cad would've ruined the character even more. Cad Bane IS the Boba Fett fully realized.
>>220196702Spoken like a true soulless corpo.
>>220203209Prequel waggling is gay as shit.
>>220206188Nah. It was a good scene. Boba lived only thanks to the armor and it explained how he got the dent. Ultimately Boba is Jango's blood and genes, and Jango was better than Cad. This was symbolic rite of passage and explained how as the Clone Wars ended, Boba became *the* Bounty Hunter of the era as we see in the original movies. Cad Bane living makes no sense. He doesn't even appear anywhere after that, because he was originally meant to die. Realistically speaking, there is no reason he wouldn't appear in Empire Strikes Back if he was alive. But he wasn't. Book of Boba scene is fucking awful.
>>220206287Just look at this shit. Robert Rodriguez should not be allowed to film anything ever again. And fat old Morrison sucks.
>>220206314This really feels like them just going>we should do the bit where Han and Fett meet up again as old men from Tales of the Bounty Hunters>oh wait we killed han off and Harrison Ford's old as shit and hates star wars lol>fuck it just bring back cad bane, nobody cares
i love that lil green nigga yeed!
>>220206351It's funny because he just randomly appears from the desert in the final minute of the penultimate episode without any kind of set up whatsoever. There was not a hint of it in the entire series, and then he just walks out of nowhere, because they suddenly realized the series doesn't have an antagonist. And then in the final episode they reference this unfinished Clone Wars arc that no one had ever seen except of a few short clips at Star Wars Celebration they jangled over the years. And this fucking Book of Boba Fett show soft-retconned that arc anyway, because Cad Bane was shot in the fucking head and was meant to die. So fucking ass.
>>220206287>Boba lived only thanks to the armorThat's all Boba is. The armor. He has no character. He didn't have a backstory until the prequels. He doesn't even really have any notable moments in the original trilogy. He had what the kids call aura and that's it. Cad Bane had a character. He had depth. Stellar moments. Only for Boba Fett to take everything away from him, twice. >>220206314With this one being the "canon" and what a lame way to go. Killed by some old guy and bad editing.
>>220196702ONETRILLIES
>>220206502I mean, in the end, it's not that deep. Boba is the Man With No Name, Bane is Angel Eyes. Boba is in the movies, Bane isn't. Bane had to go. That's just how it is. There was room only for one *the* Bounty Hunter. It was Cad Bane in the Clone Wars after the death of Jango, and then it was Boba in the Imperial era. That arc was meant to give Boba more development and character, but we'll probably never see it. Instead we have this terrible live-action substitute where Boba was turned into... that. And Cad Bane was a geriatric cosplay that somehow looked worse than the Duros in 1977 movie.
>>220206419>randomly appears with no set up>dies next episodeYeah, I'm not even surprised. Literally just more key jangling, they don't give a shit about the character or know what to do with him other than him being someone that people might remember and clap for.>>220206502Honestly I still think Fett being Jango's clone son was a dumb retcon. A good part of that is Morrison's redubbed lines in the OT are fucking dogshit, but it also ruins a lot of the mystique. He didn't need a backstory, he was just the gravely bounty hunter guy who looked fucking cool. That's all he needed to be.Having said that, I did like his story in Tales of the Bounty Hunters.
>>220204304>I was outraged when Sherlock Holmes did itHow fucking old are you?
>>220196711This. The first season of Mandalorian was lightning in a bottle because it felt mostly authentic to the vibe of the original starwars, and required minimal/no knowledge of all the 'disney cinematic universe' filonislop to understand. But as it went on, it became embedded with more and more filonislop, special guest appearances from other filoni shows, and the 3rd season outright requires you have to have watched a completely separate disneywars TV show to have the slightest idea what the fuck is going on. So now you're supposed to have watched all this bullshit to even understand what's going on in this M&G movie? No thanks bro. Too much effort for normal people to invest, not to mention the mandalorian was popular SEVEN YEARS AGO and has long since faded from public consciousness. It's not a meme sensation like it was, it long since jumped the shark.
>>220202511Star Wars needs to be put out of its misery and Disney needs another L.
>>220202961Did Jack Black sing a song?
Never watched this shit, does Baby Yeed talk?
>>220196641Can't wait to do nothing and laugh all this shit will generate.Probably torrent a camrip to be up-to-date on the memes.
>>220199879I find it hard to believe this, was there anything in those series that happened, no one talks about them, no one posts stuff about them, i doubt anything actually happened in those stories that would make you not understand the movie, because they didn't even end up capturing the cultural zeitgeistall the stuff from those series that got posted here was mostly if not all negative, it's probably a boon at this point no one knows about it
baby yeed would have made a way better name than fucking grogu or sticking with "the child" for so long. disney needs to tap into more meme shit if they want to keep this zombie franchise alive. its why people remember baby frik more than any other sequel character
>>220207489>>220203150
>>220203074There's also the scene with Boba Fat chasing a mouse droid in a literal tom and jerry like manner. Fuck Disney man.
>>220207602>I find it hard to believe thisAfter every utterly retarded decision Disney has made with the franchise, you seriously don't think they're going to pull yet another "you need to have watched 3-4 different TV shows to understand what's going on"?Shit, it's not even the first time they've done it with this singular franchise. It's not even the second.
>>220196641Its gonna do great and all you dorks are gonna be like "STAR WARS IS BACK, BABY!!!!!!"
They should have brought back Gina Carano to try and repair their credibility with the audience.
>>220203074>BRAAAAAAAAP
>>220207511He almost talked during an episode of S03.He was trying to say "This is the way", Mando's most spoken phrase
>>220206666(nice digits)>>220206802>I mean, in the end, it's not that deep. Boba is the Man With No NameI wish that was just the case. Nothing more. Nothing less.
>>220196641All I know is that I'm not going to watch it ever.
>>220207975Pedro Pascal's Beaner Mando stole that from Boba, unfortunately. Now Boba is some old fatass Lawrence of Arabia or something who developed a Stockholm syndrome for his enslavers and adopted their shitty primitive culture.
>>220205076She has pussy problems. She may be good looking, but her pussy is all screwed up.
>>220208055the original sin was George casting a fucking kiwi as NotBoba in the prequels and then saying that Boba was a clone of the TRUE and HONEST Fett so now we're stuck with that old fatass forever
>>220196641Grogu should had his own little spin-off with luke or been a side character in Ahsoka or some shit. Disney pissed their pants and reunited them too soon. If the movie was about them reuniting i think everyone would more excited.
>>220208055I look at this and all I can think of is>CARM ON MOS OISLEY>SCORE SOME FACKIN GOALS
>>220196641>How unbelievably hard is this going to bomb?Not as bad as this piece of shit.
>>220208055The worst part of BoB is that Boba’s this fat old fool who can’t be CGI’d to do cool action stunts so you’ve got this legendary bounty Hunter waddling around saying, “I’m Boba Fett” and everyone shudders. He’s a completely castrated character whose daimyo rulership of even Mos Eisley feels unrealistic. There’s no blood in those veins.
>>220208076We need a time skip to teen Grogu.
>>220206666>character known for his iconic armor and helmet design>still goes around without his helmet 90% of the time because we've got to see the actor's faces constantlyFuck this gay shit. Completely missing the point of having Fett in a show.
>>220208709Honestly I don't even know why he'd come back to Tatooine in the first place, other than it apparently being mandatory for every fucking character ever to swing by there every few years.It's the site of his greatest fuck up, why would he ever want to be reminded of that shit? And why the fuck would anyone there ever be intimidated by him afterwards?>"grrr I'm Boba Fett">oh hey you're that dumbass who got knocked in the sarlaac by a blind han solo? damn man, you got old and fat
>>220208076>>220208741Which, since that'll take a good 80 years in his lifetime, will put us safely away from any other established characters he'd have to be tied to.He could be the audience's link from one era to the next.
>>220203074Space Soapy saves the day!!!!!Her character should have got her own Disney+ show!
>>220209014It’s so frustrating how the first time we see Boba get threatened in the show he doesn’t solve the matter himself. The Outer Rim is a Big Man town. You need to show you’ve got the guile or guts to back up your authority. Boba comes across as a small, weak shadow of his former self and everyone still treats him like he’s still got some fire in his belly. Boba’s orc guards do more intimidation than Boba himself.
They should've never namedropped Grogu. Aside from the fact that Grogu is a very silly name, the characters just knowing its name is Grogu and going from there is anticlimactic. Mando should've give the Child a name to go by, a name in honor of the Mandalorians. Nau’ur is meant to mean illuminate and it's a hopeful name. It would work far better than Grogu.
>>220208752This is why karl urban gets my respect. He refused to film any scenes without the helmet in dredd to stay true to the character.
It was bad enough they decided to have a movie continuing from a web series but to release it after so long that it has been forgotten makes it more retarded
This movie will flop but Goose's star slop movie next year will break box office records
>>220205593It had great fight choreography moments but it also had bad ones
>>220209329>floating down slowly using the force>still move their arms like they're in slow motion
>>220196702I remember when bait used to be believable. Yes, I'm old.
>>220196641Didn't Star Wars complain about the Mandalorian guy getting replaced with a woman and now that Disney is giving you guys what you want, you are just going to avoid the film?
>movie tie-in meals and items at Burger King just like the tie-in stuff from the prequels (not sure if there were similar promotions for the OT/special editions)They're going all out with this one just like the old days.
>>220209402Looks like it was a Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon homage
>>220207672Disney is lost what they try to pull is mostly irrelevant since it doesn't come anywhere near to fruition I'm saying there's a possibility it won't matter that you haven't seen the nu-wars series if the movie is anywhere near half decent, which I have no hopes of it beingIf you like the good star wars like the original trilogy and some of the animated clone wars series which rehabed the prequels, you might be ok with a mute yoda and bobba fett clone movie
>>220210731>we took the turd out of the punch we shitted in, why aren't you drinking it?
>>220196702Oh shit, if they put in some tiktok references and have a character say "six seven!" then we might be looking at the highest grossing film of all time
>>220203074>woah! he's fast!
>>220211513This sums up things nicely.
>>220204257yes..yes I wouldshe's got a nice ass on her
>>220202828he goes to the fat xwing pilot's bar, goes "hey, i'm only interested in bounty hunting imperial remnants like the drug kingpin, give me those so i can show baby yeed how to kill them"But you're accurate nontheless.
>>220203135>>220203183it had to be won in combat. Mando tried to give it up after he booped Gus Fring the first time, before Luke showed up. In season 3 mando gets beaten and used like a blood bag by some cyborg mother fucker, and starbuck saves him. That's how she gets the darksaber. Beat the guy that beat the guy that beat the guy that had it originally.
>>220205383>saar making stupid trashy ghetto tikotok ahegao face is good saar
>>220209329>when the villain's mask fell off and he was a hot kpop starhe should've been more strange looking but he was cool though
>>220196641I am praying for a Pluto Nash tier bomb.
>>220206666>Do you know who I amwell, without the helmet, no, some bald fat fag
>>220212137That makes no sense. She steps into a fight already going and they tag team a guy together? So if you lose ANY fight under ANY context, ANYONE who even helps you gets the sword instead?It should be 1V1s exclusively. What if I jumped on the guy's back distracting him for 2 seconds and then that let Mando get back up and win?I get the Darksaber now? Can't he just fucking fight me again for it? He can't beat Bo Katan in a straight fight? He tethered himself to a fucking tie fighter I've never seen that 55 year old short small woman do that.
>>220213398>he should've been more strange lookingNah too cliche
>>220213958I never got the impression that Mando wanted to be the big guy.
i took off work to watch it
>>220209329These Jedi were awfully calm seeing their mortal enemy still being around after almost a thousand years.
>>220202961
mamalorians.. this was made for us
>>220209329I love the wushu wirework and the choreography. I hate the flawless glowstick look of the lightsabers and vastly prefer the imperfect wobble they had from the originals.
>>220211949>the fat xwing pilotYou mean Filoni's literal self insert from season 2?
>>220217297If he took the helmet off, would he die?
>>220196641>surely no ones cares about this anymore right?Mando is the best Star Wars thing Disney has made.Even if people have issues with Season 3.I hope we still get Season 4.
>>220218713>Mando is the best Star Wars thing Disney has madeEven if that is true, the bar is somewhere in the magma beneath the earth.
>>220211949>he goes to the fat xwing pilot's barSomehow, Porkins returned.
>>220196641I actually enjoyed the mandalorian show more than the sequels. this was the right choice to go with as a movie. the like cowboy for fire different thing going on each episode and being solved in one episode was nice. like a hero going from place to place helping towns and saving the weak.
>>220218713I agree, they did something right with Mando. I tried to watch the prequels multiple times and usually get bored and turn it off after 20 minutes, something about them just didn't grab me, don't feel anything
>>220197037Cut domestic by 15% and international by 50% and you have the actual box office this turd will reach.
>>220219325The bar's so low the Chinese are tripping over it.>>220218713If they made a S4 it'd just end up being The Bo Katan Show at this point (guest starring Mando and Baby Yeed in a few episodes)
>>220196702kek
>>220202318The funniest part is season 3 fucking sucked and everyone hated it...and that was three years ago. These dipshits seriously thought the best move was to release dogshit and then wait almost half a decade to release their awful movie like everyone will suddenly have forgotten it and like Mandalorian again.
global 400top.
>>220218713Everyone at Disney and on YouTube is more talented than george
>>220203074Wow, I thought they were joking when they said this show was bad. This might be the slowest car chase I have ever seen in my life, I am pretty sure I could outrun that landspeeder.
The problem is this: the show was setting up Mando to be the reluctant leader, a classic trope of the person most responsible with power is the person who doesn't want it or seek it. Season 3 however was the "what Kathleen thought was fan service" season, we need Grogu back, we need silly stuff or mentioning CIS or cartoon shit. Then they just went back to Filoni cartoon plots.This movie should have been the siege of Mandalore. Have it open to people who haven't watched the show whilst still having stuff for the show watchers. Have Mando retake Mandalore and have a bunch of big battles in the process. But nah, season 3 did a lame version of this.They had to undercut and ruin all that. So now it is all retroactive sequel glazing, all to set up sequel shit. And Ahsoka shit. All for some Thrawn crossover no one wants. It just wasn't that complicated.
>>220202828
I'm not seeing the movie for political reasons. I don't support companies that hate straight white males and I wish every CEO would be put on the spot and forced to explain their stance on straight white males and "whiteness" in general. Every problem in the west would be solved.
The Mandalorian was a trick too many people feel for. The sequel trilogy ended in ridicule and they needed Disney+ shows. Enter Mandalorian. Jon Favreau kicked off the MCU with a helmeted hero, Iron Man, so they used him again with a helmeted hero, Mandalorian, for Star Wars. Overarching Grogu plot + some adventure of the week episodes. Simple stuff people enjoyed. But no, this show was always built with a hidden agenda: spin off potential and recontextualising the sequels. Firstly spin offs: Rangers of the New Republic (cancelled), Book of Boba Fett, Ahsoka etc. Secondly: Grogu's whole Empire plot line was about cloning aka Snoke. But then the show pivoted towards the cartoons anyway. And now they are talking about crossovers for all the shows for a Thrawn film, aka, redoing the sequels using ideas from the Zahn novels but without the OT cast.Disney forgot what made the MCU work. Star Wars failed because they wanted it to be like the MCU. When TLJ and Solo happened, all the Star Wars Story movies were cancelled. As soon as Mandalorian worked, all those Star Wars Story movies (Obi Wan and Boba Fett) became shows. Mandalorian was a vehicle for spin offs. All because rather than planning the shit out with talented people, they want to make Star Wars into Marvel. Marvelisation ruined Star Wars. And that's why the Mandalorian sucks.
>>220209329This show I think caught the late flak of the ST and Disney Wars in general, no one even watched it enough to truly hate it.
>>220219601>The bar's so low the Chinese are tripping over it.They're naming their kids after the sound it makes when they do.
>>220196702Unfortunately true.
>>220196641luv dat lil nigga grogu
>>220209329This show was awful. Too many people focus on the politics especially the main actress making that cringe video.But the truth is, the show was so fucking flat. No tension. No set ups given room to breathe without instantly being resolved. Everything in the show was telegraphed. Fuck, I have rewritten the show in my head to make it exciting because they failed at rather basic writing in constructing this show.But then people watch it, think, well it is okay or something, some fight scenes are okay, Squid Game actor is okay, and act like it was a crime it got cancelled. It cost far too much money and didn't know how to build tension.>Oh is she guilty or is she innocent?>Oh she has a twin, he believes she didn't do it.Shit like that happened a lot where any potential conflict, drama or tension was practically instantly resolves.
I'm in a Star Wars mood since watching Maul, playing Fallen Order now, then Survivor. I'm willing to binge the D+ live action shows (not Acolyte since it's totally irrelevent) but what if I'm not gay enough to watch Phony's Clone Wars cartoon do they explain Anakin's orange buttcheeks well enough in the live action stuff? The Maul cartoon doesn't really explain anything but it's tolerable since Star Wars can have *some* gaps like it's a legend being told, I guess.
I love Star Wars but hate everything Star Wars and, despite loving Star Wars, I hate Star Wars and want everything and anything nu-Star Wars to fail and die because it's not the correct and proper Star Wars for me, the real and actual original Star Wars fan. Ok guys, I said the pledge, can I join the club now?
>>220203397Yeah starring in 2 huge turds gimped out gate by vile miscasts, TLOU and F4, has nothing to do with anything, it's because he said FREE PALESTINE DA JOOOOOOOOOS O ALGO
They should have just done the Thrawn trilogy from the start.
>>220204170But they are doing that it's an anime tho, called The Ninth Jedi
>>220204338It's even funnier now that Sigourney Weaver is ruining Star Wars too. What faggot keeps putting her in these sci-fi and comic book projects Holy fuck Ripley was a prototranny why do feminists believe she's a draw I don't fucking watch Alien movies for her.
>>220203397I hate the forced narrative around Pedo Pascal.>Guy is a fan favourite in Game of Thrones.>Skyrockets him to fame.>Late life senpai narrative.>He's well liked in Season 1-2 of Mandalorian.>Left wingers make him "heckin' wholesome bi sexual dad-energy with the right opinions and his sister is trans" guy.>Then Gina situation happens, but even then Pedro was protecting her for some time and was never harsh about her.>People are mad at Pedro Pascal "fatigue" even though he is in like two things at once, TLOU and Fantastic Four, both are fine/forgettable/who cares territory but both have pre-attached controversies (TLOU 2 and the MCU decline).>But then people take some clip of him touching Vanessa Kirby as him grabbing on to his co-star because of his anxiety or some made up narrative.>Right wingers and people like Critical Drinker keep complaining about him.>Replays that same pride parade clip of Pedro over and over again.Just forced narratives everywhere, bullshit for the unemployed. He's fine, he's been in some okay stuff and some shit stuff. All this shit is overblown culture wars shit.
>>220202903>>220202937>>220203017There was literally nothing else they could have done with this character. Mando is a faceless, nomadic tough guy who seemingly doesn't care about power, glory, or riches (in spite of being a bounty hunter). He has no ideology, political views, no dead wife or anything to pull him into a larger conflict. He's essentially mad max but without any of the character flaws they had to give Max to keep him interesting in the sequels, and like Max they only way you can tell entertaining stories with him is to attach him to characters that do have interesting goals. Or give him a cute kid to protect. Otherwise the Mandalorian would be good for 5-6 episodes which would be fine except star wars fans always need more. 6 million spin offs, video games, movies, wiki pages until you beat every remotely cool or interesting idea into the ground.
This movie would have done numbers at peak Mando hype (shortly after S1)No one cares about Mando after season 2 was just OK and S3 was just memberberries and trying to hook it in to the shitty SW EU.
>>220221981Mandalorian was being set up as the classic:>Guy who doesn't seek power is the best leader.Mandalorian didn't want the darksaber or to lead. Others did and that made them bad candidates. But those others didn't have the same values as him. The previous wielder left things in failure. It was setting them up to be possible enemies too. So there was plenty you could do with this character. Have him find out the difficulties of power. Grow and change. Instead they just said, nah, cartoon plots again. Only a fraction of the Mandalorian viewers had watched the cartoons. No one wanted MORE cartoon plots.
>>220221845>Sigourney WeaverI usually don't mind the SigWeave but I'll be damned if her narration in the trailer didn't seem incongruous. It would've sounded better with a more traditional, old man's voice like Morgan Freeman or something.
>>220196641If this had come out pre-TLJ it would make a billion easy. Unfortunately the sequels have poisoned that well so badly that it's going to take an entire generation to forget they happened.It's a shame because taken on its own merits its a decent looking movie.
>>220196641The first season of the show was good, but they take way too long between each season. Any sense of connection I had to these characters is long gone by now.
>>220208637It spawned a tv show that's well loved to this day.RIP Fives
>>220222075he was being set up as "dude remember how cool boba fett was in 1981". He never showed any signs of leadership nor did anyone besides grogu show any interest in him as a leader. If they had gone that route you guys and most of the rest of the fanbase would have lost interest, for the same reason everyone lost interest in boba fett after they had him settle down and become a leader (both the old eu and nu-eu). The core appeal of these characters comes from their lack of attachment or strong/interesting belief systems that allow for you to project yourself onto them. Or they transcend the stories they're featured in and become symbolic figures. But when they settle down, take off their masks, and seriously engage with the setting and characters they lose the mystique and all you're left with is a bland action hero. This is why the Mandalorian + the Mad Max franchise have deuteragonists. They go on the interesting personal journeys that drive the stories forward without compromising the cool factor of the actual protagonists. Hell even the Karl Urban Judge Dredd movie did this. If you don't you end up with slop like the Boba Fett show, or the netflix punisher.
>>220221845Modern Feminism has retroactively ruined Ripley.
>>220222717I feel like you're missing a trick here. Contextually Star Wars had been pushed to the brink by the sequels. The Mandalorian in comparison felt great to people. It was a stripped back to basics approach, with basic influences (westerns/samurai films like the OT had) whilst taking stuff from old concept art too (pic related). Maybe people could say that's boring but the Grogu overarching plot plus singular adventures (prison break, defend a village or whatever) was more than enough for people. You keep acting like people would have "lost interest" but what you don't seem to understand is, that people are BEGGING for basic simple storytelling to return and that is why people liked the Mandalorian. People like basic character arcs and plots to be set up and resolved, even if they know where it is going. They are in it for the classic heroes journey. Mandalorian had resolved Grogu, set up the darksaber, Mandalore and Bo Katan. So basically the new format should have been one and done adventures plus the Mandalore plot. The plotline was easy, build to him finding a home for his people, his people being on the fringes was an established subplot already, whilst reluctantly having to use power to get it, with the Empire and rivals like Bo Katan has potential foils. It was simple, there for the taking, classic stuff. But no, rather than taking this established and built up idea, they literally subverted expectations to pivot towards more cartoon plotline. Now for you, you just want to keep repeating that he is like Mad Max because of how you see him. But all of this shit was there, was what people liked and was what had been developed. But they just cut down the natural plotline here and left an unsatisfying arc. You can keep saying "Mad Max" but this stuff was there and set up. It had been telegraphed. But much like bringing back Grogu, it was changed not for reasons of plot, but for meta reasons of desperate producers. And that left a bad taste.(1/2)
>>220222717>>220223140>The core appeal of these characters comes from their lack of attachment or strong/interesting belief systems that allow for you to project yourself onto them.People LIKED Mandalorian for his moral beliefs and code of honour and his attachment to Grogu as a reflection of that. Because he did the right thing. He was a classic hero type. >lost interest in boba fett after they had him settle down and become a leader The reason why people didn't like Boba Fett show was because: it was bad. It had nothing to do with him "being a leader". Look at the show, it was flat, boring, lacked tension, why was he sad about a bar getting attacked? He had no connection to these people. Heck he practically said at the end he didn't really want to be Damiyo. The show wasn't bad because he was "a leader". It was bad because they made him boring and weak rather than a bad ass. All because the writers can't write strong protagonists and have to make them underdogs. A simple rewrite could have easily saved that show. Being a leader is not the problem, the general poor quality writing was.>This is why the Mandalorian + the Mad Max franchise have deuteragonists. They go on the interesting personal journeys that drive the stories forward without compromising the cool factor of the actual protagonistsJust because you think he is like Mad Max, doesn't mean he is. Bo Katan did completely undercut him. You've basically gotten what you wanted with this movie and it is going to be terrible as it continues to recontextualise the sequels. (2/2)
>>220202511The arc of Mando & Grogu traveling together has already completed with Grogu joining Luke. There was no narrative reason to bring Grogu back. Like, I get it, Grogu is good for merch and people like Lone Wolf and Cub and it's derivatives, but it's done. Either give Mando a different sidekick as part of his new job or just go back to him being a lone ranger/ wanderer doing bounty hunting missions. Later seasons of Mando's series just ended up being really messy and clumsy. Which was real shame because as others said, season 1 was good.
>>220203746Dumb victim complex zoomer, only Gen X and boomers care about Star Wars My 69 year old father cares and watched the Disney+ tripeI have up Star Wars after the third prequel and called out TFA for the hack rehash it was, also was fun posting about the gorilla when the trailer first dropped
>>220222717The issue here is that you didn't watch the show properly. Seriously, which show were you watching?>He never showed any signs of leadershipThat's the point, he was being set up to be a reluctant leader. He had a strong moral compass. He literally obtained the darksaber, the symbol of Mandalorian rule. Yet he shunned power. Have you never heard of the trope of the reluctant leader? No desire to lead yet circumstance forces it? The armorer practically spelled it out for him too (and for us the audience), that this symbol could unite them but he'd have to follow the rules of the saber. No desire to lead meaning he isn't as corrupt as those who seek power such as Bo, who was also mentioned by the armorer as being a failure. He bathed in the waters of Mandalore and we saw the beast below. He had slowly gained the respect and support of many because of his deeds like Greef Karga. This was all being set up. But by making Bo the leader it just ruined all that. All because they wanted to go back to Mando and Grogu. We should have had a two season arc of him becoming leader of Mandalorians. It was all there, you just seem blind to it but you like that the producers retroactively pulled a Furiosa via Bo Katan. The two are not the same. Bo Katan is like if you introduced Furiosa two thirds into the movie and Max just gave her control of the situation. That's why people got mad, anon.
>>220223223You can't have strong male protagonists because it's toxic masculinity that's why every male character in all of these shows is sort of faggy.
>>220208752and when he is in armor, its comically stretched over him and covers like 10% of his body mass lmao.
>>220220984>Have it open to people who haven't watched the show whilst still having stuff for the show watchersThis has always been the right way to make a show-based movie. The best Star Trek movies for example, had self-explanatory plots but with little things thrown in that the show fans would like. That's a huge part of why Wrath worked well. The movie didn't rely on you knowing who Khan was because it explained it quickly and moved on to the fun. But, it had cool call-backs for show fans. Never make a movie that requires homework.
>>220221196>now they are talking about crossovers for all the shows for a Thrawn filmI really couldn't give a shit, they already had Thrawn and they made him look like Elon Musk joining the Blue Man Group.
>>220221294I'd say that's a modest amount of food for a simple man trying to make his way in the universe.
>>220221452Fuck off Dave, go write up your Ahsoka cameo for Doomsday.
>>220222717>They go on the interesting personal journeys that drive the stories forward without compromising the cool factor of the actual protagonistsExcept in this case they do, because all of the cool stuff that Mando used to do is now handed off to Bo Katan or Ahsoka while he just gets sidelined in his own show.
>>220224596>fett walks into mos eisley cantina>"yew know ew oi yam? i yam boba fett">some drunkard yells out "more like boba fatt amirite fellas" to raucous laughter>fett boards slave one- shit I mean BOBA FETT'S SPACESHIP and leaves tatooine forever to go and actually hunt some bounties or some shitWould have been a much better series.
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>>220207672>Shit, it's not even the first time they've done it with this singular franchise. It's not even the second.when else have they done this with Star Wars?
>>220203110>does doing that still give them permission to murder youI forgot about that.