So, he got away with it in the end.
>>220205472Why wouldn't he? Retarded cattle treats these subhumans like gods, so what's the problem? They can kill whoever they want.
>>220205472He had to get it on.
>>220205472I'm absolutely SHOCKED that a famous Hollywood person got away with murder. This is literally the first time this has ever happened.Anyway, I'm about to watch the Twilight Zone movie so I'm done with this thread.
>>220205472He didn’t do anything wrong He was only prosecuted in the first place because of his high profile.
>>220205552That and the multiple gunshot wounds.
>>220205472everyone has their denny's coupon discount they will accept.
>>220205472He'll get you in the end.
>>220205574Causing gunshot wounds isn’t a crime lawlet
>>220205472I'll never underestimate the persuasive power of a Denny's breakfast again.What are you ordering, /tv/?
>>220205637I-I t-totally agree with th-this post. N-no, Alec isn't standing off to the side, giving me the death glare.
>>220205611no he won'tI baldwin-proofed my toilet
>>220205668can i get uhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>220205697you can't keep Alec out of the shitter!
>>220205637>Causing Use the passive voice when talking about Alec's incident. Nothing caused the wounds, the wounds were suffered by the victims.
>>220205552>He didn't do anything wrongexcept for shooting and killing the woman and wounding another guy>He was only prosecuted in the first place because of his high profilethat, and the part where he pointed a real gun at a woman and pulled the trigger
>>220205668I'll have a T-bone steak and eggs, please, with extra bacon.
>Michael Massee kills Brandon Leecrickets>Alec Baldwin (who the right hate for mocking their cult leader) kills a literal who foidUHHH BAD MAN BOOK HIM BOYS I LOVE MY DADDY TRUMP
>>220205862retards like you are why judges in jury trials have to take a comically long time issuing jury instructions
>>220205896>Insults me>But doesn't deny hounding Alec because he mocked their pedophile leaderDownright peculiar.
>>220205824I definitely trust your take clearly-politically-motivated anon
I don’t care about politics and don’t pay attention to it and Alec Baldwin didnt do anything wrong
>>220205862Michael Massee wasn't responsible for hiring the set armorer.
>>220205508He wrote Starship Troopers, so he's a freaking NAZI
>>220205862>if you criticize american orange (imported from israel) its's okay for you to kill peopleare leftists really like this?
>Be openly against guns>point real gun at someone and pull the trigger as a jokeLock the retard up, he's so fucking dishonest and disgusting. If he actually had respect for the tools this would never have happened.
>>220205994Quote me where I said that, nigger.
>>220205668I bet Alec has the pull to get them to bring out their hobbit menu on demand.
>>220205472Has he found Mike yet?
>>220205542people got killed filming that one too
>>220206157what is an hobbit menu?
>>220205472it was the armourer's fault
>>220206379Alec hired the armorer. And pulled the trigger.
>>220206378Second breakfast. And it's a hobbit not an.
A B CA AlwaysB BeC ChamberedAlways Be ChamberedAlways Be Chambered!
>>220206478And it was the armorer's job to do his job, which he didn't
>>220206478So what so there's like one less actress in the world or something? They probably blackmailed him into doing it (except that it was 100% a media hoax and nobody really died). In any case, your fake outrage is worse than the actual crime.
>>220206592he?
>>220206592He is a she and if the producer, Alec Baldwin, had hired someone qualified instead of cutting corners to pay himself more this tragedy could possibly have been averted.
>>220206379So if a friend gives me a real gun, but tells that it's fake one, and I shoot him with it, then I am not guilty?
>>220206504what is an second breakfast?
>>220206611>he>ActressYes, here's someone who REALLY knows what they're talking about.
>>220206611>actual crimeSo you admit that a crime occurred?
>>220206619Methinks the anon doth emote too much
>>220206636It's the breakfast you have after first breakfast.
>>220206634NTA, but I do wonder. If you hire someone to insure safety on the set and they turn out to be incompetent and someone gets hurt, are you also liable to a degree since you're the boss who hired that person?
>>220206644>>220206640Your obvious overreaction to my calling this psyop a psyop gives me all the information I need. Kthxbai(Yes, the real crime is the government running psyops like this for the sake of lying to the American public and distracting them from the vaccine genocide)
>>220206660is there an third or zero breakfast? Is there a apple to eat?
>>220206743>third breakfast That would get in the way of elevenses.
>>220206679You didn't call it a psyop, you blustered about there being one less actress while falling to lament the death of cinematographers in the world.
>>220206679you don't even know what case you're babbling about, brown boy>Uhhhhh Alec Guinness didn't do nuttin'
>>220205472it takes brass balls to murder your dp, youre not a closer op you wouldnt understand
>>220206800I thought my point was pretty obvious. Let me repeat it because it's the point any non-pedantic person would have understood that I was making. IT WAS A FUCKING PSYOP AND NOBODY DIED. FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE. And HYPOTHETICALLY if it was real, which it WASN'T, I am calling out your absurd pretension that it's some insane tragedy that should be talked about and mourned over for decades. As though this one person (WHO ISNT REALLY DEAD) was just SUCH a perfect saintly soul that you just REALLY REALLY REALLY feel bad about the death of this person who you didn't know personally and definitely never even met or thought about for one nanosecond before they (DIDN'T) die. Your pretending to care is MORE disgusting than murder. This wasn't murder. But really, your pretending to care about this person, it's worse than ANY murder. IS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU, DIP SHIT?FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE PSYOP
>>220206830I know a lot more than you do and you should stop projecting you fucking ugly nigger.
>>220206634its never ever been the actor's job to check for gun safety. its a ridiculous expectation.you could maybe say he has some culpability as he was the producer of a movie who hired a shit armourer.
>>220205472It wasn't his fault. The only crime he committed in your eyes was making fun of your imaginary daddy.
>>220206912see>>220206830>calls me a niggerI'm not the one defending trigger happy morons
>>220207036go to bed, Alec.
Did anyone watch that reality show where Alec tried to show the pain HE was going through?
>>220207040Go to bed, CIA.
>>220207082>You're a Nigger! You're a CIA! You're Zuchini Monster!!!please take your pills
>>220206897Maybe not mourned over for decades but the guy who shot her should be held accountable.
>>220205637Why do we keep arresting people for trying to cause Donald Trump to suffer gunshot wounds?
>>220205472He's a Clinton asset, of course he did.
>>220205862The absolute irony of accusing people of defending a murder just because they agree with their political views. Nigga, look at what you're doing. Kill yourself, leftroon.
>>220205472Was definitely manslaughter.
>>220207243Because >trying to causeis a crime
>>220207293No it wasn’t. No negligence.
>>220207306But if they succeeded it wouldn't be a crime? Like Alec Baldwin successfully caused someone to have a fatal gunshot wound.
>>220207341No it still would be a crime because “trying to cause” succeeded.
>>220205472At least he's facing a civil suit. Sure, paying money as a punishment for murdering someone's wife is a slap on the wrist, but at least he will considered guilty in a legal sense.
>>220207379He won’t. He’ll be found negligent at best
he did nothing wrong. you're all just upset that he made fun of the orange man. If James Woods did the exact same thing you wouldn't give a fuck.American culture wars politics has rotted your brain.
>>220206355>people got killed filming that one tooNice work anon
>>220205862"Ma'am," your TDS prescription is available at the pharmacy - along with your 10 other SSRIs and HRT.
>>220205862>kills Brandon LeeSpeaking of literally who...
>>220205862oof MIGA did not like this nvke
>>220207481James Woods would know proper firearm safety on the set.
>>220205472The Japanese thriller Bakudan 2025 has great acting and thrills. Mr. Nietzsche in a Convenience Store is like Tortilla Flat meets Napoleon Dynamite. Don't look back just seek out better stuff than the drain circling sludge.
Reminder we invented some cool advanced technology to allow us to shoot at things safely AND implemented it in1903, one hundred and twenty three years ago. We call it a mirror. You angle it at 45 degrees, Amazon will ship you a lenses for 4.99, shipping and handling included. But the dudes was too busy firing and busing in a replacement crew of non-union workers who had walked off set less than 24 hours earlier because of ( checks notes ) two negligent discharges and concerns over firearms safety
>>220205472>I'm in your chamber right now.
Why would he?It was the armorer job to keep all guns on set secure, for a movie in wich plenty of actors use funs against each other this was a matter of when not who, could have happened to any other actor. Thank god they found the armorer guilty like it should.
>>220205472You expected him to go to jail or something like that? lol You are naive if you did think that.
>>220206634So tricking someone into murder is okay?
>>220208077One of the biggest rules you learn in gun safety training is to never point one at somebody unless you intend to shoot them.He knew it was a real gun, he didn't know it was loaded. But he easily could have checked if it was loaded, and should have been taught how many many times in his career so far.Also he was exec producer and there was multiple gun safety incidents on set before this happened. He's a lazy arrogant trashbag who got somebody killed through negligence
>>220205472He literally did nothing wrong.
>>220208151>you intend to shoot them.It was a western movie, you expect plenty of people to shoot other people, are you fucking nuts?
>>220208077He hired the armorer, and half the crew walked off set just 24 hours before the because of 2 negligent discharges, one resulting in an injury. Instead of firing the negligent armorer, he fired the union crew and bused in non-union workers.Then he shot 2 people.
>>220208203Actually real guns are almost never pointed directly at people when shooting movies. They use either fake guns, or camera tricks/editing to make it look that way.Also this didn't happen while they were filming a take for the film, Baldwin was just joking around between takes like a complete fuckwit.
>>220208203See>>220208016
>>220208225He is only responsible for the armorer job's dutties not for the armorer negligent crimes
>>220208203Understand for a moment that acting is not real and you can point your gun in any other direction besides directly at your director and cinematographer. Retard.
>>220208287Pretty sure he didn't even get the gun directly from the armorer. He got it from some fucking assistant. Thats a violation right there.>Receive gun from untrained dumbass>Just take their word that it's not loaded then shoot 2 people with it>This is after a bunch of drama on set from gun safety incidents"Hurr he did nuttin wrong"
>>220208287Wrong. Knowing an employee is criminally negligent and continuing to employ them makes it your responsibility
>>220208315Yeah its not real, the guns should not have real ammo and it was the armorer job's to make sure that was true on set.
>>220208338>Knowing an employee is criminally negligentSo he must be an oracle to know the future? He must read minds to know what the armorer was up to?Jesus Christ
>>220208342Do you know how easy it is to teach somebody to how to check if a gun is loaded?Do you know how quick it is to check that once youve been taught?Nah don't have 4 seconds to check this gun. Just point and shoot at the closest person baby!When an unlicensed driver kills somebody with a car, you don't forgive him because he didn't know how to drive a car.
>>220205862Brandon Lee’s death is the precise reason sets have the safety regulations Baldwin cheerfully took a piss on
>>220208342It's a precaution. You don't point your fake gun which is still very much a real gun at real living people in the event that the bullets in the real fake guy are actually real. Get it, retard?
>>220208400So the armorer job's was to teach them gun's safety and she didn't? Great let her root in prison then
>>220206634Damn, I could give a random person a button and tell them to press it, and if it kills someone they're responsible and not me.
>>220208414But why would there be real bullets in it? You get that's the armorer job so it never, ever happens
>>220208428Baldwin would have been taught how to do this dozens of times already during his acting career smart ass. And yes he also should have been taught again for this film clearly.
>>220206634If the reasonable person would assume the fake gun is incapable of firing live rounds, then yes.If the gun is capable of firing live rounds, it’s everyone’s duty to make sure there aren’t any in there, even if some are more culpable than others. Never assuming a weapon is safe until you see it yourself is literally the first thing anyone who handles one is told.
>>220208452There was literally multiple gun safety incidents on the set of this film before he killed that woman.
>>220208465>And yes he also should have been taught again for this film clearly.Thank god they locked up the responsible for not teaching him.
>>220208526And who allowed that to happen?You think if the armorer wasn't doing her job and safety training the people on set then maybe her boss, or the person that hired her should step in and do something about it?
>>220208516Thank God the person whose role was the gun safety on set got prison time then.
>>220208400Someone being given a gun should never really have to check. The gun should be given to them racked back/chamber out. When I did armorer work I wouldnt even accept it if it wasnt or they handed it to me wrong.
>>220208544Nah why would that be? You hire an adult person to do a responsible job you hired to, you don't have to oversee everything, that's the fucking point of hiring a professional for a job.
>>220205472Look, the first shot I can understand being an accident, even if he did cause it through negligence, but did he have to walk up to her and shoot 5 more into her face?
>>220208623kek
>>220208587He didn't even receive the gun from the armorer personally. It was some fuckwit 3rd party.Even more reason to be suspicious of the gun as an actor who had likely sat through 10+ gun safety classes before
>>220205824>except for shooting and killing the woman and wounding another guy >that, and the part where he pointed a real gun at a woman and pulled the triggerYou don't understand how the law works and what is liability. The movie production company hired an armorer to handle all weapons on set. Alec, an actor, was handed a gun and told it was a blank gun by 2 different people. They were filming a scene were he aims the gun at camera and pulls the trigger. The armorer screwed up and somehow a real bullet was put into the gun.Alec is not responsible. The prosecution TRIED to make a very flimsy legal argument that Alex should be some responsibility to "triple check" the gun despite being told twice that it was a blank round. That "guns should always be treated as dangerous".However that legal argument fell apart quickly. Why?The defense pointed out that if Alec needed to triple check the gun because guns should always be treated as dangerous, then the Cinematographer shouldn't have been behind the camera filming the scene. The Cinematographer should have used a remote control for the camera (which is standard equipment) for the filming the scene. In addition, it would make many actors and actresses who do the same film (because it's standard industry procedure to listen to the armorer) also legally liable.Therefore the prosecution's argument made no legal sense. The judge agreed and the argument was thrown out. The people held responsible were the 2 people who told Alec that the gun was safe. - The Armorer was charged with involuntary manslaughter. She received ~2 years in prison.- The Assistant Director, the 2nd person who specifically told Alec the Gun was safe, was charged with negligent handling of a firearm. That charge is a misdemeanor and he was given probation.
>>220208657Why wasn't the armorer doing its job then? All guns on set are its responsibility, like, have all guns locked up until you hand them over not just having them easily available around.
>>220208374He knew what the armorer was up to because he literally fired and replaced half his crew, who walked off after complaining about2 negligent discharges, one resulting in injury. literally less then 24 hours before the "accident"
>>220208657How did the third party get the gun in that state?
>>220208773Oh yeah he knew she was up to give him a gun with live rounds, makes sense he would purposely shoot with that, amazing logic right there.
>>220208773Not a legal argument.
>>220208848This. Its not like it had already happened twice, one resulting in injury, scaring the crew enough half walked off 24 hours before, or anything>>220208871*that applies to rich people
Quite incredible that he got away it. I wasn't expecting him to go to prison, but leaving scot free anything is quite the thing
>>220209042He wasn't responsible to begin with. They went after him because he was a celebrity. If this were an ordinary case without a celebrity, they would have just charged the armorer who handles the guns. Not the actors
>>220206592The armorer fucked up but the production itself hired her as an armorer/production assistant and she only got the job because another girl who worked as a prop master was also an armorer who was supposed to be supervising her but increasingly told her to stop doing armorer stuff so that she could get the prop stuff for the movie done.And the assistant director is supposed to check a gun thoroughly after the armorer hands it to them but somehow he got off without even being charged for anything.Also, because of where they filmed they didn't need a licensed armorer they could just hire whoever so they got a nepo baby who had never done it before and constantly made her do other work besides being an armorer.t. retard who read the entire police report.
>>220210892What ordinary case involves a woman getting shot and the employee of the guy who shot her goes to jail while the shooter goes home?
>>220205844That'll be $75
>>220205862Quote me where I said that, nigger.
>>220211534>>How about I pay in LEAD? BLAM BLAM
>>220205472Yeah, anyone whose brain isn't melted knows it was a total accident and he is not some sadistic murderer
>Rich successful guy gets away with crimeMore news at 10
>>220214304>he is not some sadistic murdererI wouldn't go THAT far. it is still Alec Baldwin
He did Miami Blues. He deserved to get away with it.
>>220208681>The movie production company hired an armorer to handle all weapons on setAlec was a producer btw, so when you say "The movie production company hired" you mean Alec hired. That wouldn't make him criminally liable but it would make him civilly liable.>The prosecution TRIED to make a very flimsy legal argument that Alex should be some responsibility to "triple check" the gun despite being told twice that it was a blank round. That "guns should always be treated as dangerous"Anybody who knows anything about guns know this. You are a nogunz liberal like Alec Baldwin which is why you both think it's okay to point a real gun at somebody and pull the trigger. I have been handed many guns that were said to be empty and I still never pointed them at someone and pulled the trigger because I am not a nogunz liberal like you. You are responsible for any gun in your possession.
>>220205542The Baldwin case I can at least hear some kind of bullshit loophole, but that case never finding one person guilty is insane. Like fuck, not even a scapegoat? Really? They're not even going to pretend when the dude's murder was filmed?
>>220205668That looks good. The whole menu. I hate being poor
>>220206355
>>220206619didn't they even have members of the safety team quit because they thought too many corners were being cut and it wasn't safe?>>220206634it was not a fake gun, and he knew it was not a fake gun>but he was told it was empty!nobody who actually owns guns or grew up with guns thinks this is an excuse
>>220215330That's not how the legal system works. >That wouldn't make him criminally liable but it would make him civilly liable. No. That would make the corporate company liable. Companies are treated as separate entities than people. The company gets sued. The company either pays or declares bankruptcy. Alec Baldwin and his personal assets are fine. He's not *personally* liable. His company is.If Microsoft hires an armed security guard, and the guy accidently shoots an employee (thinking he's a robber), then Microsoft is liable. Not the CEO of the company. They don't reposess the CEO's house and car to pay for damages. Microsoft pays for it using the company's profits or company insurance. The CEO is left alone.>You are a nogunz liberal like Alec Baldwin which is why you both think it's okay to point a real gun at somebody and pull the trigger.Which is why he hired professional certified gun handlers and armorers to handle the guns. That's their job. Alec is not a gun expert. >I have been handed many guns that were said to be empty and I still never pointed them at someone and pulled the trigger because I am not a nogunz liberal like you. The movie scene they were shooting required Alec to aim the gun at the camera and pull the trigger. That was the scene. If anything, the camera operator probably shouldn't have been directly in front of the pistol. They could have connected a remote control for the camera. >You are responsible for any gun in your possession.The court disagrees. He's an actor and was told he's holding a prop. Other professionals were supposed ensure it was safe and 2 other people told him it was safe. Even if Alec Baldwin checked, he wouldn't know the difference between a blank round and a real round. They would look like the same bullet in his eyes. That's why the court didn't find him liable.
>>220216085that's a lot of words to just say>I am a nogunz liberal
>>220205472>Gets to kill a person>And have his attention seeking anxiety crisisThe man can't stop winning
>>220216169Just admit you don't understand how the law works and you hate Alec Baldwin.
>>220215531how are you so poor that you can't get anything from a menu? i don't even have to care about what the food i buy costs. the cost means nothing to me. get some funds, poorfag.
