You're assigned a quest. You must fix The Lord of the Rings property. How do you handle it?
>>220226383Get rid of the darkies. Put women back in the kitchen.
>>220226383Recasts. Recasts everywhere.
it can never be fixed as long as it is a "property" to be leveragedthere is no soul in corpofaggotry
>>220226383i go watch my blu ray 4k extended editions on my jellyfin server and pretend this series never existed
>>220226383cancel it, it cannot be governed, it can only be destroyed.
I overthrow the Ellison media empire and bring The Lord of the Rings into the public domain.
>>220226383Give creative direction of the show to the best-qualified candidate that meets the additional criteria of being genuinely a big Tolkien fan, and also over 50% of the current writer's room describing them as a Nazi (meaning, not a shitlib). Give them free reign to clean house and retool the story/planned focus as they see fit.And frankly, as that other anon said, get rid of the darkies. It's inappropriate for the setting if they're not playing those humans from the east(?) that allied with Sauron. Basically every single actor on the show should be completely white.
>>220226383I love how this makes sensitive wh*tes seethe. Us Indians never get some touchy about a silly non-issue like this.
>>220226612>>220226411your investors come in and say they want the cast to be racially diverse so that the product appeals to largest customer base possible and if you don't you're fired. now what?
>>220226612I would watch a show 100% based in Rhun or Harad where we follow we rise of a of Easterling/Haradrim king into power, maybe could become one of the Ringwraiths at the endbasically early seasons Game of Thrones set 100% in Mereen, Astapor and YunkaiTolkien never wrote anything about the humans of the South and the East other than "they worship Sauron, some willingly some out of fear, and they are badass warriors the elites of Sauron's armies" so the show could be absolutely 100% whatever the fuck you want
You can't save it from where it's at currently, outside of putting an initial graphic of "everything you've seen so far is stupid shit we just made up but now we're starting a completely new story that is in line with Tolkien's writing" followed by actually doing that.
I don't really want anyone to fix Middle Earth, it's too dry. There's no rape, you can't do or say much in the setting without it sticking out like a sore thumb. Fix Forgotten Realms. That's a setting we could really have fun with.
>>220226383Completely scrap all the OC shit and just make a Beren and Luthien miniseries.
>>220226716>>220226747
>>220226716I'd probably refuse and get fired then, which is essentially why I don't work in Hollyjewwood. The question was, how would you fix it? Under your conditions, which are accurate to the real world, it's not possible to fix the show. It's being put out there to fail. Interesting that a for-profit company would do such a thing.
>>220226716Here you go anon >>220226747
>>220226716>be racially diverse so that the product appeals to largest customer base possibleThis is not even necessary. White people are watchable. Darkies are not. Star Wars OT and LotR were huge successes even though the casts were thoroughly white.The industry is dying due to movie casts looking like ethnic zoos.
>>220226516zoomers will never understand this
>>220226854people identify with characters that match their own race obviously. you think black kids grow up idolizing aragorn or luke skywalker?
>>220226747not a bad idea.
>>220226747basically a show about this guy before he became a nazgul>Khamûl was once a mortal man, an Easterling who ruled in Rhûn. He received one of the nine Rings of Power from the Dark Lord Sauron and in time he was corrupted and became one of his servants.yeah that would be cool
>>220226886>you think black kids grow up idolizing aragorn or luke skywalker?100%. You're retarded if you don't think they do.
>>220226886Yes, you fucking propagandized mush-brain. And half the little black boys growing up in the hood own a Goku shirt. Get out of your fart-sniffing leftist ivory tower and touch grass.
>>220226917>>220226941you're fucking stupid if you don't think black people have a preference for characters and stories that reflect their own race and culture over white counterparts. it's a statistical fact.
>>220226383Just get better writers. The problem with the Hobbit movies too is that they try way too hard to be ultra epic like the OT and the stakes just aren't there yet.
>>220226886
>>220226992I'm half-black and half-Indian and I relate with Luke Skywalker and other white heroes.
>>220227009all indians believe they're white. it's like some mental delusion they all share since their country places higher castes on lighter skin tones. it's why they post on /pol/
>>220226992>you can't argue with me, it's a fact!Okay great, you've read what black people like, according to some study or pop science article or whatever. Kinda not helping your case against the charge of being out of touch in a leftist ivory tower. Anyone who actually knows more than 10 black people and has observed their actual preferences knows you're full of it.
>>220227069>>220227009>i have anecdotal evidence that's more valuable than your peer reviewed studies!lol i bet if we added both of your IQs together it would still be in the double digits
>>220226992Turns out they give less of a fuck about weird token characters written into white lore they don't care about, so if you really want to appeal to them, just fuck off away from this IP and make a story about SoundCloud rappers
>>220227100Everything you say should be done has failed in the last 5 years and all the normal shit they like has succeeded
>>220227100You haven't provided any studies, so he does have more evidence than you, really.
>>220227273lrn2google. i'm not your babysitter
>>220226992idk whether they prefer black characters, but showing compelling ones like Aragorn and Skywalker STILL works with nonwhites, which was the point.
>>220226747>reasonable post in the thread>faggots ignore it in favor of shitpostingmany such cases.
>>220226716What a hilariously racist post. People wont watch a movie unless they see their own people in it? Wowie. And yet everyone is expected to watch a movie with a cast that is predominantly black. Get fucked.
>>220226848>He thinks Capitalism is logical and always makes the best decisions
>>220226383The Aussie stays
Release to the public domain, same with every other 'property' that has been ruined by soulless corp-slop thinking.
>>220226383Kill everyone involved
Trick question.There is nothing to fix.
>>220226383Hit every detail described in the appendices, as written. There's not even that much from the second age, so you should 100% do them correctly.Like everything they did with Sauron in Eregion is plain wrong. And also stupid and boring.Yeah, that's the second thing. You're going to have to invent some things to fit around the canon. When you do that, make it interesting.
>>220226383I'm an accelerationist, so I'd say that Amazon should outsource it to India.
>>220226917I've never seen a nigger talk about Luke or Aragorn, provide evidence
make a cutie femhobbit mc who wants to get laid with human men but ends up solving mysteries around the shire in a 24 episode per season fantasy procedural. season 2 is a different place other than the shire but i don't know the geography well enough to say where that is
>>220228242The real question there is how RoPe would even be different if it had been lol
>>220228326I hate balding millennial gooner discord freaks like you so much
>>220227008But when I was a kid I thought Goku was a white man. I have to assume most kids didn't perceive him at Asian. I thought he was white, I can see spics seeing him as a spic, dunno what race black kids perceived him as I assume white I assume nobody thought "oh yeah that is a Nipponese Mongoloid alright"
>>220228347if she were an elven woman you would've been fine with it. racist fuck!
I know is difficult but the lord of the rings is a Catholic IP search for talented writers who believe in Jesus and look for more natural looking actors who are not plastic surgery freaks or dykes. Not that hard honesty.
Just only watch the three movies that matter since they're complete and nothing can change that?
>>220228808>the lord of the rings is a Catholic IP
>>220226747The Shadow of War game had a DLC about Haradrim and Easterlings and it was kino
Burn this project. Burn the upcoming Gollum project; nobody is interested in that fish eyed twerp.Do Beren and Luthien, or something out of the Silmarillion, like elf dude vs Morgoth.
>>220228836So original man, you are sooo right. When you read Tolkien it doesn't read like a biblical story at all is definitely a protestant Jewish feminist story. How could I be so naive.
>>220228956>When you read Tolkien it doesn't read like a biblical story at allcorrect, it doesn't. it reads like a 20th century fantasy novel with tons of references to norse mythology.
>>220229008So you are one of those ok. The Pegan larp.
>>220229068No I am just someone who read Tolkien.
>>220228956I'd stop responding to him, he revels in people pointing out how retarded he is. He often makes threads.
>>220228956>>220229068
>>220228899>Beren is a gay nigger now
i'd just set the 1981 BBC Radio play to traditional animation. the problem with Hollywood (or ANY live-action adaptation) is it becomes dated very quickly, whereas animation does not.the CGI in the Peter Jackson films is pretty shoddy, the slapstick high-jinks don't fit the tone of the story, all the colours are too muted, and Aragorn has a stupid sexy beard. they'd never do picrel, so why a beard? just because it happens to be fashionable in the real-world 2000s...? that's essentially the same problem as race-swapping characters.
>>220226516>there is no soul in corpofaggotry
>>220228208This is the best option
>>220228836"God who dies then resurrects is common" is a retarded take from Golden Bough written for hype, not actual anthropological work, and was debunked/condemned by actual academics from the field. But you just hate Christianity and Catholicism because you know they're true deep inside and don't want to have a real discussion because your lies would be exposed further. Many such cases.
>>220229529The backlash against Frazer didn’t prove there are no dying-and-rising gods. It criticized his tendency to flatten distinct traditions into one giant archetype. Even scholars critical of Frazer still acknowledge that its a recurring motif. See: Osiris, Inanna, Adonis, Dionysus. Gandalf’s return is not uniquely or even primarily Jesus-coded. He is obviously a lot like Odin even before Moria (wandering sage dressed in grey w hidden divine identity and power) and his transformation after Moria resembles Odin hanging on Yggdrasil and returning with deeper wisdom and power much more than Christ's resurrection.
>>220229629Yes. He took a bunch of different things, and flattened them into one. With no methodology to back it up. Basically the same as "Thor threw lighting bolts, Tesla worked with electricity and mythically had a death ray, ergo Tesla and Thor are the same myth". Euphoric fedoras parrot it to this day.Idgaf about Gandalf being Jesus coded, it's some midwit crap. Silmarilion is obviously Christian based, LOTR is extension of that.
>>220229720>Yes. He took a bunch of different things, and flattened them into one. With no methodology to back it up. Basically the same as "Thor threw lighting bolts, Tesla worked with electricity and mythically had a death ray, ergo Tesla and Thor are the same myth". Euphoric fedoras parrot it to this day.Cool. None of that in any way refutes that there are many dying-and-rising gods.>LOTR is extension of thatName one fundamentally Christian based element in LOTR
>>220229743Name some fundamentally based Catholic (which is what you mean to say) elements in general.
>>220229743And here it goes. "There are many dying and rising gods" is a meaningless argument in context of Christianity discussions. Yes, there are many, in the same way there are many gods who talked to people. Atheists always say it like it "debunks" Christianity because they haven't updated their arguments since 19th century.>Name one fundamentally Christian based element in LOTRI don't have to. I only have to name Christian elements in Silmarillion. And because LOTR takes place in Silmarillion cosmology, it takes place in a Christian context. The most obvious: monotheistic creation ex nihilo, Luciferan fall of Melkor, everything is part of Eru's plan. Btw:>>220228836in the "letter to priest" Tolkien himself stated, "The Lord of the Rings is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision."So basically, another anti-Christian case is built on lies. Many such cases.
>>220226383Execute everyone involved in this movie.
>>220229991transubstantiation, marian devotion, the seven sacraments, confession with absolution
>>220230053>I don't have to. I only have to name Christian elements in Silmarillion. And because LOTR takes place in Silmarillion cosmology, it takes place in a Christian contextYes, you have to. If LOTR is fundamentally catholic, then that means that there should be identifiable catholic elements in the text of LOTR. If LOTR is solely "catholic" by association with the Silmarillion, then that means that it was impossible to recognize LOTR as catholic prior to the posthumous release of the Silmarillion, decades after the release of LOTR. Which also means that LOTR contains zero catholic elements and themes.
>>220230107Almost all of this is quite present within the books.
>>220230131And here it goes again, pretending not to understand the arguments. I'm not even gonna bother since you'll always retreat into "but it's not Catholic ENOUGH". Here's a direct quote from Tolkien:“The Lord of the Rings' is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision. That is why I have not put in, or have cut out practically all references to anything like 'religion,' to cults or practices, in the imaginary world. For the religious element is absorbed into the story and symbolism.”― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien
>>220230140show one of them being present in the books, chuddie.
>>220230205No, I didn't retreat into any of that, thats a pure strawman on your part. Your argument is that you don't have to point out Catholic elements in the LotR books because you can point to them in posthumously published material which make LotR Catholic by association. My argument is that if you cannot find a single Catholic element in the actual LotR books, then those books do not have any Catholic elements in them. Not the Silmarillion, not the letters, the actual LotR books.
>>220231212I won't go into the Lembas bread thing, because I'm sure you've got some warped meme shit to say about that. But, otherwise, Boromir's death is confession with absolution.
>>220226383LOTR doesn´t need fixing. As for RoPe it´s easy, you just use AI to change some dialogues and names in order to erase it´s pretentions of being related to LOTR and you change the name of the show. There. As it´s own brand of slope it becomes harmless.
>>220231386Lembras isn't the body of Christ.
>>220231554Convenient of you not to address the rest of the post.
>>220226411Fpwp
>>220231245You precisely did retreat. You demand specific Catholic practices to be written into a fantasy world; I could write you an atheist book with those practices - for example, something that makes fun of Catholicism. But yet you pretend not to understand this and play dumb and say, "no, it needs THIS SPECIFIC thing".And you continually ignore that the author of the book himself wrote in a letter "this is a fundamentally Catholic work". Why are you doing this?
>>220226383i like the hobbit girl
>>220226904>guy from a desert>name is Camelbravo, Tolkien!
>>220231683>And you continually ignore that the author of the book himself wrote in a letter "this is a fundamentally Catholic work". Why are you doing this?I explained this to you many times, chuddie, but it seems that you cannot understand it: >>220231245
>>220231794Imagine seething this much because one of the greatest classic works of fantasy in history is Catholic in nature.>>220231683>Why are you doing this?They are either a) trolling or b) one of those atheists who can't accept that the greatest pieces of art come from Christians. You've never heard true seething until you've found someone who based their love of fantasy and fiction on the LOTR films only to find out the books were from a Catholic worldview.There is no winning, they can only seethe into oblivion.
