How do you respond without sounding mad?
i'm a child inside
heh... your chinstrap looks terrible
>>220241300I always thought of it more as a family Sunday matinee.
>>220241300>I-it's meant to be retarded!Disgraceful cope from George Lucas
They are movies aimed at children which adults can also enjoyThe problem is certain types of fans demanding that they should avoid catering to children entirely
>>220241300>So why did you include decapitations, politics, genocide, and torture to your "kid" series?
>>220241300See >>220231243If you want more context, then I can only tell you my experience with the franchise. I saw Jedi in theaters as a kid in 1983. To me, it was an idea. The ideal man was Luke, and to some degree Han. The ideal woman was Leia, the ultimate villain was Vader...you get the idea. For kids like me from broken homes, Star Wars was, as sad as it is, our guidebook for how to be, how to act, how to hold yourself and deal with your problems. Courage, determination, discipline, etc etc. It was more than a kid's afternoon serial. It was a life lesson. A series of life lessons.the sequels were just garbage though. It taught you nothing and made zero sense. Even the plot was broken and disjointed.
ITS A CHILDS MOVIE, WEEEEEEEEEEEE
I never cared for star wars so I'm finenow LOTR on the other hand
I was that age when the prequels came out and find them boring compared to matrix, lotr, and the first three pirates movies.
>>220241449Oh no! A bunch of toy skeletons in a blink and you miss it one second scene. How will the children ever recover? Have you never read classical fairy tales? They are full of scary and grotesque shit.
>>220241428It's all fantasy PG violence against weird aliens, robots and masked soldiers who can be confused for robots. People need to be taught about bad things. This is what all fairy tales do. You make it sound like it's some snuff film. It's not.
>>220241543>People need to be taught mature subject mattersSo which is it? Kiddy shit or mature shit?
>>220241428Mass infanticide too
>>220241593It is kiddy shit because the matters are presented in a kid friendly way and their depiction, effect and consequences are sanitized or entirely omitted. There is a difference between an ISIS beheading video and a cartoon alien getting bloodlessly killed with a laser sword and then the kid adventure movie just moves on.
>>220241646Is a whole fantasy world and as the real world is filled with real world tragedies their fantasy world has fantasy tragedies to fuel the redemption arc of the characters
>>220241300He'll say this one day and the next he'll claim that Star Wars is an allegory for the Vietnam War and the War on Terror and also a cerebral modern retelling of myths from his anthropological studies of world cultures
>>220241336thought you'd write that the other way around.
>>220241428Yes you can present any fucking topic to kids as long as you're subtle and being exploitive about it
>>220241300oof>Being a rich businesswoman in her thirties with a petite, freshly 18 trophy husband. Usually "save" him from a financially unstable environment and spoil him mercilessly. In return for the nice clothes and expensive gadgets he'd basically be a sex slave and take any kind of torture I'd like to enact upon him in stride. Starts with basic gentle femdom and slowly develops into heavy bondage, scarification, fisting, forced vomiting and pissing for humiliation, etc. Kind of romantic since in this scenario I'd like to have moments where we get along as people, too. And lots of gentle aftercare.>Drugging and trapping a guy in my basement. Had this one a lot last year but haven't been feeling it lately. Starts by forcing him to live like an animal without clothes or a toilet so I can revel in his shame and terror for a month or so. Then I start interacting with him more (while armed, of course, to add some realism) and force him to do sexual things, rewarding him food and a bath, then clothes, etc. Use the return of his humanity as an incentive and the threat of death as potential punishment. Over the course of a year or two he becomes mindbroken and won't escape even if given the chance to do so, develops some sort of stockholm syndrome and loves me. Usually ends with me amputating his limbs (unrealistic, I know, but this is the most out there fantasy so stay with me) to make him the perfect sex toy who can never escape me.
>>220241449It's a sad indictment of our neo-Puritan culture that people think any depiction of death automatically means something is 'not for kids'. You should probably read some Grimms Fairy Tales sometime.
>>220241300>this is for kids George is fucked up.
>>220241300He's totally right.It's akin to when people ask you what's your favorite batman and you dare answer with a Tim Burton one.Like wUt? Bu-bu-but muh Heath Ledger:! So childish lmoaoNO YOU are childish, superheroes are for kids and a fantastical setting is the most appropriate one. We don't need to make superheroes realistic, because they're NOT.Grow up faggot
>>220241300I don't get mad. I nod and agree.
>>220243583Batman killed people like he was doing birthday shots in the Burton films
>>220241449Kids saw worse stuff on Halloween.
>>220243592wait till you find out about grimms' fairy tales
>>220243592Well duh, it's a kid's movie. Adult murder is for adult movies.
>>220243563I saw Revenge of the Sith when I was 9 so yeah. Go back to the "nightmare fuel" section on tv tropes.
>>220243540Yeah, my favorite Grimm fairy tale is the one where they talk about trade disputes and the senate being dissolved.Your talking point is retarded and so are you.
>>220241428Vader wouldn’t give a fuck about Watto because Vader considered Anakin Skywalker to be a dead man until Luke came along.
>>220243706Just seen some goal posts go flying over my house.
>>220243706the legitimacy of political power is a common plot point of many fairy tales, yes. or, like, lion king.
>>220241449It’s ok they got better after Rey force healed them.
>>220243647I think other anons answered that point already.The presence of death is not the problem, the serious atmosphere and adult themes are.There is something magical and goofy about Tim Burton movies which is intended for kids, heath ledger's joker isn't
>>220243706Fucking retard. There's hundreds of books aimed at children with political themes.Hunger Games.Animal Farm.His Dark Materials.The Prince and the Pauper.Just because you were too retarded to understand what was happening doesn't mean every 12 year old is.
>>220243592He had to do it. Those younglings betrayed the Republic.
>>220241300He's right, but at the same time, it's been expanded so much that the franchise as a whole, it has ended up where it can be more than that. At this point, it's more a question of what each individual project's goal is, and what people expect their interaction with it to be, and with big projects like this, I think it's an interesting topic. Talking about stories and our relationship to them is a great window into how people think, what they like, and how we treat fiction as a whole.too bad most people are faggots and can't discuss shit honestly because they're looking to "win" some argument that doesn't even matter, and just view talking as a more civil way of arguing rather than just being expression and connection
>>220241300I agree
>>220241428>Watto you fucking kike!Maybe retconning the EU was for the better...
>>220241428the fuck did watto ever do to him? he and his mom were enslaved by the hutts, he just worked at watto's shop, and watto let him take home parts to build robots and a whole god damn scratch built pod racer
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>>220243848Don’t get too tired moving those goalposts around there, brainlet.
>>220241428This is antisemitism
>>220243706No one cares about the PT.Also the >movie was all about trade disputes Is a fucking NPC tier meme anyways, the movie isn’t bogged down in politics at all. That’s always been a weird media cope for why the movies sucked that people repeated till it became true in thier NPC heads
>>220244133A short recap of your moronic argument so far:>You: Ummm having death mean's it's not a children's movie>Here's loads of children's literature/movies that deal with death>You: Umm having political themes means it's not a children's movie>Here's loads of children's literature/movies that deal with political themesWould you like to keep embarrassing yourself or will you just take the L and stop replying?
>>220241300Characters like the Ewoks and Jar-Jar are not for 12 year olds, they're for 3 year olds. I didn't see Star Wars until I was already an adult anyway, but if I had seen it when I was 12, I definitely wouldn't have thought those characters were lame as fuck. George doesn't seem to be able to tell the difference, he just thinks that kids are kids.
>>220244233*WOULD have thoughtFuck me.
George changes his mind all the time, as all humans do, and taking any of these things seriously is stupid. George is not the voice of God in all these matters with absolutely authority, who never got anything wrong but also George did have a vision and did do a lot to make a brilliant franchise.>Intended for a second trilogy to introduce Luke's sister, then decided against it so made Leia his sister as the only way to resolve the writing hole he made in terms of love triangle and final RotJ turn.>Killed off Boba Fett because he didn't live up to some expectation, then got upset by it and stuffed in Jango Fett to try and win back some fans.>Killed off Darth Maul in a similar fashion and regretted it, brought him back.>Had like 5 different ideas for a sequel trilogy.>Said his films were super political and the Rebels were the Vietcong.>Then said his films were for kids first and foremost.>Said Leia was the main character despite her not being.>Said Disney was the best place for it, then regretted it.>Said we should preserve old movies and fought against the colorization of black and white films then endlessly edited his films for the Special Editions, DVDs and blurays.
>>220244233and little kids wouldn't appreciate all the characters being horndogs for princess leia or her and han's cheeky flirting leading to a love confession in empire strikes backthey were family films, for everyone. and then the prequels were retarded nonsense for nobody, and the sequels were goyslop for basedbabies
>>220243848>Animal Farm>Just because you were too retarded to understand what was happening doesn't mean every 12 year old is.I thought stuff like Animal Farm was read in schools cause kids wouldn't get them otherwise. Also Hunger Games is an older teen book.
>>220241300the OT felt like a YA story, with some kid and adult elements thrown together.the prequels were for 6 year olds for some reason, and the new ones are for 35-45 year old fat balding liberal males and dudes that use the word patriarchy in sentences
The OT was like classic Dungeons and Dragons. Heroes journey, simple arcs and world. The prequels were like your DM's big attempt at world building and backstory. Messy with a lot of problems but a certain charm. The sequels were like a modern DnD book. Pic related.
>>220241300They didn’t forget, they actively turn these franchises into something that hypothetically appeals to social media addicted childless women because tween boys aren’t a commercially viable audience like they were when this was a prosperous white country
>>220244505this is so funny to melike why would they want to be disabled in a fantasy setting alsothe one time I played DnD I was a half-orc barbarian that was kinda retarded and just swung axes at shit cause it was funny, why would I wanna play myself>oh im actually short and a loser in this setting isnt that so fun
He's right but he enjoyed all the adult money that he received for it.
>>220241300George isnt really a deep thinker or good storyteller so im not surprised even he doesnt know how to talk about Star WarsGreat businessman though.
>>220243583>>220243832You're both faggot retards missing the point entirely. George isn't saying this is for children and YOU MANCHILDREN that love the prequels and everything SW related. He is saying exclusively kids. Individuals generally under 13 years old. Stop trying to jump through hoops over it.
>>220241300>This is a film for 12-year-oldsHe's right but the prequels are still too stupid for a 12-year-old
Say it.
Utter the words.
>>220241752Anakin chopped off dooku's head you moron
>>220241300Source?
>>220244751Yeah, barely visible, off focus, without blood, you have to pause frame by frame to see it. Go watch real beheading videos, you fucking manchild.
so was the entire world 12 years old in 1977 when star wars was the most popular film ever made and influenced basically everything that followed it?
>>220244711That's what I'm saying too asshole.Maybe I should have used "best" instead of "favorite", so partly my fault. I haven't watched anything star wars or batman related in twenty years
>>220241300George looks like a badger that's been granted a wish to spend 24 hours as a humanHe also makes st*r w*rs '''fans''' seethe and is married to a black milfIt's looking like BASED to me, lads
>>220241300He says this, but at the same time Disney Star Wars would never show anything as graphic as Anakin burning alive or Dooku getting his hands cut off and beheaded.
>>220245252They showed Darth Vader snapping some kids neck in Obi-Wan Kenobi show and a rape attempt in Andor.
>>220245282So going by George's quote, am I supposed to believe that the kiddified Rise of Skywalker is better than Andor?
>>220241300Star Wars is literally for Children, it's a shit franchise and you just have to deal with it. The western males in current society are in a suspended state of childhood and large portions of our population have not become men.Seriously? Space faggots in capes running around with gian Furries saving princesses? Why can't you watch something HIGH T like Berserk and Goblin slayer? /tv/ gags watch too much American media, completely degenerate. Star Wars is clearly gay.
>>220241428>The children and even adults in my Westernized degenerate shithole can't understand geopolitics or warSkill issue. Wh*tes are fucking children.
>>220244736>https://youtu.be/9vePR-euOxo?t=153>>220241300 >>220244715 >>220244736All trve.
>>220241449>I failed as a parent and my children can't handle or understand deathSounds like a skill issue.
>>220245330The sequels aren't for children. They're for Gen X manchildren. It's a nostalgia trip for old fat losers that the kids will have no connection to whatsoever. Andor is also shit for different reasons (it's not star wars, it's twisted shit that exploits its namesake)
>>220244505God I have such hate.>>220244550It’s non writers becoming writers. You saw that in the me too era where they just made characters that were the writers themselfs projected onto established lore. It’s the same thing when people complain video games didn’t have proper female representation before 2018. When you repeat this it is obvious you never actully played games and were just upset other people did something you didn’t understand or were into for 30 years before you got butthurt. And these things never need to be 1:1. Like they think if there is not exzacty 10 female leads to exzactly 10 male leads to exzacty 10 black leads to exzacty 10 trans leads, than there is obvious representation, which is actully the opposite
>>220241300>>220241401He can't just make a silly spoof of DUNE that also mogs it in terms of historical analysis,- and then expect manchildren to not glorify it when the depth of the story pulls them in due to being illiterates who haven't read any real history on their own yet.Lucas is just smearing it in your faces that you're completely retarded.
>>220241428it's for kids not pussies
>>220244133The dead bodies you are complaining about don't appear in the movies about trade disputes.Get absolutely fucked you troglodyte hemonculous
>>220241428The original trilogy is a Saturday morning serial, but the prequels were a Greek tragedy
>>220241513>blink and you miss it>having the camera focusing on the burnt corpses of Lukes uncle and aunt to to showcase the brutality of the empire along with being the catalyst for Luke starting his journey and by extension his path towards being a jedi is a blink and miss moment
>>220249783>pretends to be retarded
Attack of the Clones is the best Star Wars movie.
>>220241440nice post.you're a few years older, but I felt the same depth of feeling when watching them. regardless of what George or anyone else says, somehow the story captured within them carried weight and something human to it.films now and even most films then just feel like films done for no reason.
>>220244550I'm a barbarian in real life so in games I sometimes like to take a break from it THANK YOU VERY MUCH
>>220241300“kids thought it sucked too”. “every kid i knew thought the prequels sucked”.
>>220241300Can someone without being mad, can actually say star wars would have kept its momentum without the prequels?
>>220245383Yet your people keep coming to western paradises, curious
Why did you include the incest scene, Georgie boy?
>>220241428Vader is antisemitic
>>220241300You retards believe this is a criticism to your retarded movies but it's actually a critcism to how stupid retards like JJ Abrams or Ryan Johnson are inserting American politics into it
>>220241300Exactly. But as it generated a lot of money it was milked for decades until now that it seems like it's dying.That is also the reason why when Star Wars fans went to watch The Phantom Menace they didn't like it because it was too childish. They forgot that the target audience for those movies were teenagers, not 30+ adults. Yes it has some darker scenes but overall Star Wars is for teenagers.
>>220251067Beyond any doubt. The Shadows of The Empire campaign in the 90s breathed new life int o the series by having it be all the hype and hooplah about a movie release with books, comics and toys but with no film release. George even said had the story existed earlier, he would have adapted it into a film.
>>220243706look at this fucking retard
>>220241440that thread is straight up misinformation when Rian Johnson wrote the last jedi and Claudia Gray didn't
>>220241449>people actually think stormtroopers did this
>>220251569interesting he saw potential in it.think it would have been good if he'd made it.there could have been a lot of offshoot stories, kyle katan pre-jedi would have been nice too.
>>220252258a fire started due to a leaky compressor, has they bypassed it, things would have been fine.the stormtroopers never even went to the farm
>>220252313The main cast of the originals still looked good in the mid-90s. It would have been absolute kino.
My son is 6 and he loves the original star wars movies. Talks about the millennium falcon, Darth vader, Yoda, etc all the time. Kids love shit like that
>>220251334>My peopleBut I'm an Amerifat. I'm just sick we white people have no fucking culture outside of cheeseburgers and consumerism. At least they are fighting for God and country. Fuck you faggot.Pic related, a self portrait entitled: "the American ideal".
>>220241300This got the man-child fatsos uppity
Reminder Werner Herzog was in Nu Wars
>>220241300>How do you respond without sounding mad?Why did you sell your legacy to those white slavers at Disney, Jorge?
>>220241428>refernces edgy EU comics that George didn't even write or consider canon
>>220244496I use the word patriarchy in sentences.like the sentence "we should go back to patriarchy cause it worked and humans are a naturally patriarchal species. patraiarchy is the way of nature."
>>220241300I wholeheartedly agree. Adults men like Star Wars are the male version of adult women who like Disney princesses. It’s a shallow space fantasy series. Adults who like works set in space enjoy sci fi and not fantasy.
>>220252649really really should have done it.imagine if that had come, even as a single film, instead of the updated editions, and he'd tested the new tech on that.
>>220244550Ironically, the people asking for this shit aren't able to imagine themselves in the shoes of a character that's in any way different to them. It's why you always see them going>but how am I supposed to relate to this character? they don't look like me!
>>220241428He said children, not limp-wristed cucks like yourself.
>>220241428Because kids aren't retards, anon. George understands that.
>>220251569>George even said had the story existed earlier, he would have adapted it into a film.He never said it.
He's just trying to give the new directors and producers the right to be terrible it won't work but considering the amount of money he was paid I think he has to try
the response is easy then, why did he make the prequels something completely different then? why appeal to a grown up, twisted perception and not make it something childfriendly again instead of this hybrid we have? it's like a mischling with silly shit and too adult. he was just winging it
>>220253184>picHoly projection
>>220241300I wouldn't say a single word to him. I'd listen to what he had to say. And that's what no one did.
>>220241300Turmoil has engulfed the Galactic Republic. The taxation of trade routes to outlying star systems is in dispute.Hoping to resolve the matter with a blockade of deadly battleships, the greedy Trade Federation has stopped all shipping to the small planet of Naboo.While the congress of the Republic endlessly debates this alarming chain of events, the Supreme Chancellor has secretly dispatched two Jedi Knights, the guardians of peace and justice in the galaxy, to settle the conflict...."
>>220241300Star wars the original trilogy was beloved by all ages when it was released, that's what made it popular
>>220241543>>220241752>>220244783>>220241808>>220248333>>220253690>>220253866>>220241513>>220243540Stuff like this is just too funny. They will rabidly defend George for putting themes such as explicit death, including the murdering of children, and geo-politics because "kids can handle these things and you can totally make children's media about these subjects, which George understood" while at the same time accepting his excuse of "it's for kids, lol" whenever someone critiques the quality of his films.If the themes are acceptable for children, why does he get a pass on the quality? Do children's films not have to be well made? Would you prefer your children grow up watching non-sensical slop when they could be watching something that doesn't suck ass?
>>220255709>If the themes are acceptable for children, why does he get a pass on the quality?He doesn't, people used this line to defend the Disney wars movies primarily. They're too shit for anyone to defend sincerely so they moved on to this.
Only the Sith deal in absolutes, George.
>>220255492>Just like Grimm's Fairy Tales!OP is a moron.
>>220241428This was the norm in children fiction prior to the 2000s pearl clutching faggotry that spawned our current generation of zoomers and Gen alphas.
>>220241300Wizard of Oz is a children’s film and is one of the greatest movies ever made.Just because it’s for children doesn’t mean you are allowed to make a crappy film
Lucas plagiarized Kurosawa and everyone still thinks he's a genius mastermindnewsflash the faggot ran out of ideas in the 70's and hasn't come up with a single good thing on his own, and I'm pretty sure he subconsciously despises Star Wars because he can't come up with something like that on his own
Star Wars is a family movie. Family movies don't mean kids movies. Kids movies are like Clifford and veggietales and shit like that.
>>220257987Vagietales?
>>220246806>picrel>laura croftit's lara
>>220241428>t. never read Aesop or Grimmilliterate lmao
>>220257709>Kurosawa invented the hero's journeygook worship is beyond pathetic
>>220241300>>220244715>>220244736Some people didn't like the movies you made. Get over it
