nah people loved him until he stopped making music

>>220258236
idk

he has a very female fanbase that loves how sweet he acts. they're the ones defending him the most

61% of viewers on opening weekend were female

https://old.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/1svg6f9/per_deadline_updated_posttrak_scores_for_michael/

>>220258236
he's got a whole generation now that didn't really know him in his horrific monster end-of-life form instead of pictures of when he was best looking in the late '80s early '90s, and also believe the vitiligo shit instead of thinking he was doing something self-destructive to be white.

>>220258236
His rep is mostly from people calling him a pedo. Outside of that and the plastic surgery shit he was just another eccentric artist. And his eccentricities can be explained by having a shitty childhood. Honestly he was far less obnoxious than a lot of other artists.

I'm a millennial and he was always a pedo creep to me
Before he whitified his skin he had good pop songs though

>>220259180
pop stars have always skewed female, especially the teen idol nostalgia pipeline. of course a biopic is gonna be moms + daughters doing a throwback night out. that doesn’t magically translate to “women are the defense squad.”

also 61% isn’t some insane landslide, that’s basically “slightly more women showed up.” you’d probably see the same split for any 80s music act that built their empire on girls screaming at concerts.

reddit box office stats aren’t a psych eval of society, anon. it just means the people who grew up on him are the ones still buying tickets.

>>220258236
if he didnt bleach his skin the libs would still be defending him

>>220260710
>women are the defense squad
if you go on twitter they are
majority in the fan forums seem to be women as well
as someone that hangs around the fandom, many of the hardcore fans that bother posting about Michael Jackson online seem to be women. not that men are massive minority, but you can tell it's a female skewing fanbase when it comes to online

and they post about loving his personality a lot. they think he's adorable,

if he was like axl rose, his fandom would be different

>>220260710
>reddit box office stats
Technically it came from Reddit reposting it from Deadline

https://deadline.com/2026/04/box-office-michael-1236870542/

>>220258236
Michael is a perfect storm of bizarre behavior. Literally every single thing about him is weird and disturbing. He looked like a freak. He sounded like a freak. He lived like a freak. He was accused of what is probably the most controversial crime in existence. Regardless of whether he was guilty of the molestations, his confirmed behavior is already far, far beyond what any other person would deem acceptable or palatable.
Nobody cares that Axl Rose beat women because his whole image is that of a bad, wild dude and ultimately violence doesn't really impact celebrities' public image too much. Never has. Child rape is a completely different story. and the truth is that general audiences don't reallly care that Mick Jagger and David Bowie and whatever other music stars from the 60s and 70s slept with underage fans, because most people view a 15 year old girl from the 60s very differently from a 10 year old boy from the 90s. I'm not saying this is right. The groupie phenomenon isn't very well understood by most people and actually quite complex, and most of these girls had very serious mental issues and family problems that many of these guys gladly exploited (Led Zeppelin fish incident for a famous one), but that's not how society viewed it
Axl Rose got fat and then lost weight. Michael Jackson turned into the most notorious and abominable freak in human history.

>>220258236
Mick Jagger and Axl Rose really aren't controversial enough to get the kind of defense-force squad
R Kelly, Diddy, Chris Brown - these people are closer to Michael. "Normies" disparage them and call them pieces of absolute shit, so the "fans" feel the need to passionately defend their idol
>Axl was drunk and kind of a dick
even the hardest GnR fan wouldn't disagree with you on that

>>220262381
He really wasn't that strange. All his behavior is perfectly described by him being a pedophile.
He's a textbook case.

>>220258236
It's kind of amazing he got stuck as the pariah and monster of music when you have people like Jimmy Page and Stephen Tyler who were trading their traveling whore army of 14 year old girls like they were baseball cards. Or any heavy metal rocker who slammed their way through teenage fans during their heyday. Fuck, writers like JD Salinger and Cormac McCarthy openly dated teenagers for years and nobody batted an eye.

>>220258236
>bubbles
>e.t
>elephant man's bones
>secret apartments full of toys
>dressing in disguises
>Peter Pan syndrome
>forced to watch his brothers fuck whores
>pet rats eating each other
>rumored to be a midget
>losing his religion over thriller
>wearing make up to bed
>getting molested in a hottub

>>220262607
because nobody questions or disputes the way rock stars used to fuck 14-year-old groupies back in the 60s
whereas if you call Michael a pedo it's all
>nooooooo
>the sleepovers were innocent
>the jooos set him up
>he was the most perfect man to ever exist ever and if you don't worship him you are going to hell

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>>220258236
There was a PDF-file case in France this week about a father who graped 30 boys.

He used to organize pajama parties for his 6 years old son's friend and he was known in town for being a great host for kids, having a trampoline and shit.

It ALWAYS the same fucking story.
There's only a few option for PDF-files:
>either graping their own kids
>kids in their care (for teachers, doctors, priests, coaches)
>making kids come to them with toys or by having a fucking amusement park.

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>>220262715
>>220262715
>y no 1 beeleeve mj a pedodedo? everybody was!
>gets exonerated in court because they where caught lying.

>>220262715
It was the 70s and 80s. Micjael was trange and egregious but also a warped person in many ways. I truly believe he had a fixation on children but was trying to he a child himself, not driven by sexuality. But an extremely mentally ill person with a lot of money to build a fucking amusement park and zoo on his property. But also inviting children, esp sick children, to the estate to enjoy it. Lots more color and dimensions in Michael's case. As opposed to Jimmy Page, who was literally bringing his 14 year-old "girlfriend" on tour with him. His intensions weren't so muddied there as in Jackson's case.

I think he shouldn't have bought half of Sony music and angered the jew.

>>220263183
>all those rock stars
>never taken to court
>DEY ALL PEDOS
but then
>Michael Jackson
>taken to court but got off because of his rich lawyers
>100% CONFIRMED INNOCENT
it's all so simple, when the state of California decides there's enough evidence of you fucking kids to press charges, that's the only thing that exonerates you

>>220263243
>but also a warped person in many ways
In one way. He was an obsessive pedophile who acted upon his urges.

>>220263243
there really isn't "more color and dimensions" to Michael, he was a just a pedophile who spent every last dollar he made on trying to fuck little boys
it's only complicated when you personally need to make crazy logical leaps to justify his behavior while still maintaining his innocence. Once you simply accept he fucked a lot of little boys, every single aspect of his personality makes 100% sense

>>220263434
because the truth is easy to follow, while lying just leads to more lies and a complicated messy story
truth:
>he had child porn in his bedroom
complicated lies:
>no no no
>see the secret cabal of jews who run the world hated him
>so they snuck elite mossad agents into his bedroom and planted the child porn the day before the FBI raid
>they also had access to elite Israeli superweapons that were able to successfully put his fingerprints on this child porn even though Michael himself never touched it

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>>220263328
>that one of the main witnesses was caught lying and the other was a part of a serial family of grifters, that the only thing that exonerates you

>>220263559
>a serial family of grifters would never offer their children to the world's richest and most prominent pedophile!

>>220263328
rightoids are very selective with reality. it's no surprise they defend jacko since they also voted for an orange pedophile for president.

>>220263434
Maybe you know something that I don't about his case. All I ever saw was hearsay and conjecture and accusations. Also a guy who seemed to love children and the idea of childhood. Do you have any evidence? Sincerely asking, maybe I missed something.
>>220263523
Same dumb reasoning applies the other way.
truth:
He was charitable and liked children
complicated lies:
No no see there's this grifter couple who certainly didn't coach their son to accuse Jackson to extort money from him, and they only tried to blackmail him a few times, and there's a lot of evidence but none of it exists but look what a weirdo he is! Case closed, your honor.

Look at him, he's physically a very fucking weird looking human. I like black MJ but the later one genuinely gives me the creeps.

>>220263596
Lol can't go one discussion with bringing up politics and Trump. TDS never stops. Where's all that proof Trump is a pedo, by the way? I've asked everyone but nobody has been able to provide any. People seem sure enough of something to repeat it endlessly like it was some basic fact of the world, the sky is blue, water is wet, yet have no actual evidence of their claim. It's like their religion.

>>220263649
there's a phony ass type of poster who pops up regularly on 4chan, reddit, everywhere else
>guys I'm just a regular person
>I'm not a Michael Jackson fan at all
>but like, from what I've seen he's totally innocent
>like it's so obvious to me that all those kids were lying and he was a pure angel
>he was just very charitable and liked children
>but again I'm not Michael Jackson fan
>I'm just a normal average person giving the normal average person opinion that normal average people should have about Michael
there's shittons of evidence and I see through all your bullshit

>>220258236
Would he have a better reputation if he didn't do the things that gave him a bad reputation? The world will never know!

>>220263783
there's a phony ass type of poster who pops up regularly on 4chan, reddit, everywhere else
>guys I'm just a regular person
>I'm not a Michael Jackson hater at all
>but like, from what I've seen he's totally guilty
>like it's so obvious to me that all those kids were molested and he was a pure devil
>he was just very greedy and porked children
>but again I'm not Michael Jackson hater
>I'm just a normal average person giving the normal average person opinion that normal average people should have about Michael
there's shittons of evidence and I see through all your bullshit.

>>220263783
Well I'm not a MJ fan, I thought a lot of his music kind of sucked, honestly. But I was a kid when this all first happened and have been alive for decades since the accusations and hysteria around it, and I still have not seen any real evidence of anything other than some grifter parents trying to extort money from him and smearing his name. Please, the burden of proof is on you. If there's so much conclusive evidence, and apparently there is just so much it's amazing I haven't come across it, why not offer some of it here? You're the one that is making the claim, after all. If you can't I understand, but you also have to stop bearing false witness and listening to what they want the goyim to believe instead of the truth.

>>220263885
I full heartedly and proudly proclaim myself to be a hater of Michael Jackson, the serial child rapist.

>>220263885
no faggot, you're using language like
>>220263649
>Maybe you know something that I don't about his case. All I ever saw was hearsay and conjecture and accusations. Also a guy who seemed to love children and the idea of childhood. Do you have any evidence?
to paint yourself as totally normal 4channer who is like totally neutral but who is also passionately defending him
I, on the other hand, fucking hate that pedo and don't need to play the aw sucks I'm just a humble anon shit that you do

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>>220262607
Yeah dating a 17 year old is the exactly the same as raping 10 year old boys it's literally the same exact thing

>>220263932
yes, and these posts usually start with either
>I'm not a fan of MJ
>I'm not a fan of music
>I found him weird and strange
>He was certainly a complicated bizarre individual
before launching into the
>but he was totally innocent and you have zero proof he did anything wrong and any proof you bring up I will immediately dismiss and there's nothing wrong with owning child porn and having sleepovers with little boys
>but again, not really a fan of his music

>>220258236
So what you're asking here is
>Would Michael Jackson have a better reputation if he had done everything the same except he didn't molest children?
Yes, anon. The answer is obviously 'yes.'

>I have no actual conclusive evidence, so uh...aha! you're a fake not fan of MJ!

>>220263692
>no argument other than "WOW ALL YOU CAN DO IS TALK ABOUT TRUMP"
pretty much says everything you need to know lmao

Woah fellow 4channer anons, I just found out about this Michael Jackson guy 5 seconds ago but have already concluded he did nothing wrong and will now spend all day passionately defending him

How much of the recent MJ simping is just a result of /pol/ finding out about the naughty words in They Don't Care About Us?

>>220264050
Trump is your President.

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>>220264082
smart anons got redpilled when they found out his deliberately wanted his children to be born jewish

>>220264082
>recent
They've been doing this forever because he said the kike word. You're just seeing it more now because he had a biopic come out

>>220264082
I don't know, nor do I care, I like Mike and the way the media treated him was nothing short of awful.

Hey guys I'm a baby who was just born 30 seconds ago, the hospital has me hooked up to this machine that transcribes my thoughts to 4chan. Anyway, I came out of the womb and the first thought I had was that Michael Jackson was a pure soul and all those kids were lying.

>>220263314
>"angered the jew"
anon, who do you think was doing all the legal groundwork for Michael to purchase ATV Music and its catalog lol.

>>220258236
You have a choice to not regurgitate a British tabloid label, yet you chose to be their lapdog.

>>220264192
Aww the big bad media called the poor innocent serial child predator out.

>>220262715
>>220263974
>literally no evidence MJ raped anybody
>meanwhile rockstars have basically admitted sleeping with underaged girls
Try again, rabbi.

>>220258236
You can feel bad for drug addicts in and out of rehab. You can't feel bad for chomos. Only one group needs to be isolated from other prisoners or else they get beat to death.

No you cant say that, thats ignorant

>>220264218
Using the "MJ is Innocent" burden of proof, as none of those rockstars were convicted it never happened.

>>220264218
there's literal mountains of evidence
but pedo MJ fans can just go "that doesn't count because jews" and dismiss everything in their minds

>>220262474
Mick jagger has pictures with epstein
And axl literally has a song where he says police and niggers
Lol

>>220260253
How do you whitify your skin ?

>>220264251
Did all the rock stars stand trial? Pete Townsend, Bowie, Iggy Pop weren't.

>>220264213
Trial by media = no admissible court evidence required. Just innuendos + insinuations forming a narrative, repeat it often enough and it becomes guilt.

>>220264254
>there's literal mountains of evidence
>OK, show me.
>...well i don't have any, but they're mountains of evidence!

>>220264309
he had a courtroom trial where the state of california submitted a ton of evidence
but America wasn't quite in it's #MeToo era yet where juries would actually convict a Bill Cosby or Harvey Weinstein, it was still the post-OJ era where Hollywood lawyers could find a way to manipulate the jury into letting you get away with it

>>220264309
Rape one kid and you're guilty of raping kids.
Michael raped dozens, if not hundreds, over his life.

>>220264360
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Michael_Jackson#Witnesses_for_the_prosecution
there's plenty of places to look up the state's case against Michael, it's not secretive or hidden

The whole media called him a pedo for higher viewership.

>>220264120
right, and it's normal for a president to be talked about a lot. so i don't know why you got so upset when i was just commenting on a parallel i've nooticed recently.

>>220264402
>kikeopedia
try harder schlomo

Even if we somehow occupy the timeline where Michael totally 100% didnt molest any children, how do they rationalize how inappropriate his general behavior was towards them and the shit like dangling Blanket over a balcony? No other celebrity would be defended even doing a hint of this shit

>>220264124
She seems crazy but still would desu

>>220262834
You can say pedophile here you retard.
You are not on tiktok, youtube, reddit or wherever the fuck you need to censor yourself

>>220264425
Very good job of proving my point that all you pedo MJ fans play the "that doesn't count because kikopedia" when confronted with evidence

>>220264411
And because he slept with and raped kids.

>>220264402
literally ever example on there is like
>the accuser previously said under oath that he never diddled them but they changed their minds a decade later

>>220263976
Gee, it's almost as if this all seems like complete horseshit to people that aren't even fans of his music and you're getting a common, reasonable reply. You aren't good at pattern recognition.

>>220263596
What's your opinion on puberty blockers

>>220263976
Their parents consented. I never said he wasn't a weird dude. But I don't think anything sexual happened. I know you need to be right, but unless you can offer actual evidence and proof of wrongdoing, I'm not going to call someone a pedophile because that's what the goyim were told to believe.

>>220264560
What seems like horseshit? He admitted to sleeping with kids multiple times. You have cognitive dissonance.

the thing that makes me doubt that he was a diddler is that he was so brazen about his bizarre behavior even after he was sued several times
>hmm, I have been accused of molesting kids, better continue to act like an insane freak and open a theme park for kids and invite them into my bed
and if anything his close proximity to kids just opened up massive liabilities because a few of the kids were definitely just looking for a payday

>>220264560
wow i'm a totally average normal 4channer as well and you're right, all the totally average normal 4channers like us should be obsessed with arguing for Michael's innocence even though we don't really care about it

>>220264030
Can you show me the evidence where he molested children?

>>220264586
>I'm not going to call a pedophile a pedophile because he said "kike" once in a song
Really nigger

>>220264600
It's an obsessive compulsion. He was a textbook predator.

>>220264586
>he had sleepovers with little boys
>one of the boys went to the cops
>he paid the boy $25 million to shut up
>he then KEPT HAVING SLEEPOVERS WITH LITTLE BOYS
>he built an entire theme park with a bedroom that nobody could approach without alarms and sirens going off to have sleepovers with little boys
>he goes on tv and says he sleeps with little boys
>goes to trial
>gets off
>immediately moves to a country where it's legal to fuck little boys
now your turn, you don't think anything sexual happened because... jews?

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>>220264613
inb4
>REEEEEEEEEE!

>>220264251
The rock stars and the girls all openly admitted to it. Were photographed together. Wrote fucking books about it. But I have yet to see anything that definitively proves MJ molested any children.
>>220264251
See the reply above. What does it tell you when rock stars can openly fuck their own personal harem of underage girls, the girls later explicitly talk about their experiences, and the rock stars themselves also openly admit to it? But I don't see any convictions. Then again, I also don't see any convictions for MJ, so thanks for agreeing with me that he is innocent!

>Jordan Chandler only claimed he got molested when he was literally drugged with anesthesia by his dentist father when extracting his teeth
what did he mean by this

Pedophiles abuse their kids, his kids weren't abused. The family of the boy he "abused" lied in order to get money. MJ got weird after his vitiligo got most of his skin, especially the nosejob, but never got weird to the point of pedophilia. He even stopped his sleepovers after he realized it was weird.

>>220260710
>women are the defense squad.
This is incorrect. It's what's known in the trade as "honor amongst Amerinonces".
Even the chuds on this site don't mind him being black or gay. The fact that he was a pedophile cancels everything else out. They look after their own.

>>220264427
Britney Spears shaved her head and attacked paparazzi with an umbrella. Celebrities do dumb crazy shit all the time. I don't know what that has to do with anything. MJ was a weird out of touch guy, news at 11.

>>220264717
MJ was a serial child rapist, news at 11.

>>220264490
Linking to a >>220264590
>wikipedia article isn't evidence, you lazy retard.

>>220264082
The vast majority of people in the world idolize the guy despite the controversies.

>>220264656
don't forget the bedroom with alarms that was in the middle of the theme park had a whole bunch of child porn inside

>>220264717
Every celebrity flips out on paparazzis to the point of assaulting them and nothing ever happens because paparazzi arent considered human. Not even in the same ballpark as dangling a baby outside of a 4 story window. Try again.

>>220264590
Their parents gave their consent. I never said he wasn't a weirdo.
>sleeping with kids
Yes yes, your phrasing was a masterful rhetorical flourish. So where's that evidence he molested any of them?
>>220264606
> I SPEAK FOR 4CHAN!!
Pathetic.

>>220264736
Maybe the brown Latinx third world. White people know he was a gay black pedophile rapist.

>>220264792
>parents can give consent for men to rape their children
Your hard drives need checked.

>>220264735
and if I provide a source anywhere else you'll go
>that website is also run by jews
>so it doesn't count
>because I say so

>>220264370
You're still going by narrative from tabloids. The evidence did not stand up in court, where insinuations don't work.

>>220264850
>the tabloids made him sleep with children!
How much does the estate pay you

>>220264768
>bunch of child porn inside
The authorities never found this?

>>220264850
so you believe in the perfection of the US court system?
the poor never get accused of crimes they didn't commit and spend their lives in jail?
the rich never hire the best lawyers possible to ensure they never spend a second behind bars?
it's a perfect system we have in place?

>>220262607
>writers like JD Salinger and Cormac McCarthy openly dated teenagers

Okay, but Michael chose his boyfriends from the pre-pubescent dating pool.

>>220264875
>they found child porn
>they decided to try him for child molestation instead of possession of CP
>they introduced child porn at the trial
>his lawyers got him off
that doesn't magically make the child porn go away

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>>220264881
>Yeah, well the US court system isn't perfect!
>Kid was caught in a lie with the apparent prono magazine came out after he left Neverland.

reminder that Jackson was only ever sued by 2 (two) children in his lifetime- Jordan Chandler and Gavin Arvizo
Wade Robson and James Safechuck alleged it in 2019, and are currently suing Jackson's estate for money (surprise!)
but apparently he was a prolific child molester or something

He was a 100% pedophile, but this idea that he was gay is bs; he literally had gfs in his younger years.

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>>220264989
why was he paying off so many children?

>>220258236
Of course.

I mean even if he wasn't a pedo (he clearly was) sleeping in bed with little white boys as a black guy is fucking weird man. I don't know how so many people can defend MJ for that. Drake almost gets his career ruined for banging 16 year old girls these days.

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>>220264953
I had to actually go and find this shit and see if these where actually artbooks.
I don't like em... but they are.

>>220264953
it wasn't porn, it was some gay artbook which had one nude scene in a massive library
said artbook can be purchased on amazon right now btw

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>>220265013
He had beards who he never had sex with. He was actually a rampant misogynist who hated women (Dirty Diana.)
He was only attracted to little boys.

>>220265027
People virtue signal over pedophilia. Kendrick did that whole song and dance and had everybody bopping up and down to the chomo hating anthem while hes collabed with Kodak Black before who raped a high schooler. People just went in on Drake for it because nobody likes him.

>>220265027
Drake is straight?

>>220265019
>Allegedly
Welp.

>>220264881
I like how you never answered this >>220264576

>>220265081
>imagine not having sex with prime Brooke
He truly deserved to die.

>>220264989
>Safechuck
formerly Dangeroussneed

>>220265074
he had "multiple" artbooks that were just all pictures of nude underage boys, coincidentally around the age range that he was attracted to
if you want to stand proudly on that hill and order plenty of "artbooks" so you can also appreciate nude underage boy cocks, you go ahead

>>220265013
>he was a pedophile but not a GAY pedophile
Lmaowut? He wasnt into little girls at all dude or women in general he was freaky with little boys

>>220265108
>lawyers using legal jargon so Michael doesn't sue them
wow this totally invalidates him paying 20+ victims undisclosed amounts of money

>>220265081
In another life he would have been a 4chan autist who 100%ed every Sonic game and used slurs like 'foid' unironically.

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>>220265189
>>220265189
>this totally invalidates him paying 20+ victims undisclosed amounts of money

>>220265209
1 life was too much for that faggot pedophile monster.

>>220265244
you think Michael hired expensive lawyers to write fake legal documents about all the victims he paid off?
and you've uncovered this vast conspiracy by seeing that the word "allegedly" was used once?

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Why would a random Canadian couple call the cops and say they heard Michael raping a young boy in the train car next to them?
This is before the 93 allegations, it's not like they could sue for hearing odd things.
So why on earth would a random couple make up this lie to the cops?

>>220265209
he was a video game nerd and loved Sonic- he worked on the Sonic 3 soundtrack with Sega but left the project and wasn't credited
Stranger in Moscow is the Sonic 3 credits theme, written by the same keyboardist who previewed the credits theme to Jackson

https://youtu.be/yZdiu84GS48?list=RDyZdiu84GS48

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQHXdKxaid4

>>220265081
After he married Marie Presley, Presley went on a vacation... with her "ex husband"

None of MJ's shit would hold up in the modern era of social media.

>>220265582
He died at the perfect time. People would be dragging him even more if he was still alive now

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>>220265402
>The woman’s comments were part of the probe into allegations.
>Which ended up finding nothing.

>>220265402
michael 'hee hees' in his sleep, this is a known phenomenon

>>220265847
don't bother trying to rationalize why a random woman would lie and defame Michael like that
just play the exact same
>that doesn't count
>because I say so
>I win again
and continue whining about how there's zero evidence because you are the gatekeeper of evidence

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I dunno why everyone wanting to hate him fixate him on the children's party part and not make up that he was probably homophobic and problematic like J K Rowling. If you could villanize JKR you can obviously run his reputation through the mud too.

>>220266190
How could a homosexual pedophile be homophobic?

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>>220265978
>Was apart of all the allegations that started the 10 year investigation.
>They found no evidence of criminal conduct on his part.

It's both sides not wanting to admit the truth that the dude made three albums that probably shaped a chunk of the populace's life and inspired them.

He's the biggest celebrity of the century. Bigger than Ali, Bigger than Chaplin, Monroe, Elvis we will never see something at his level of celebrity in our lifetimes or next due to the nature of media. Everything hit at the perfect time for him and it's impossible to replicate it.

His entire rise coincides with race relations as well. That's why people defend him so much and why no matter what, people are gonna listen to his music or justify the weird shit with him.

>>220264218
Wade Robson and James Safechuck openly admitted they were abused by Michael

>>220265074
>guys its just nude pictures of a child not porn

>>220266577
after previously denying it, after their careers had floundered, and then proceeded to sue the jackson estate

>>220266681
Good, I hope they get millions, even though it can never get back their innocence that MJ the monster robbed them of.

>>220266525
>biggest celebrity of the century was also the biggest and most prolific child predator of the century
Crazy world.

>>220266698
>I was molested, therefore I need shekels
what logic is this, it wouldn't undo the molestation, assuming it ever happened

>>220258236
"Sue me, beat me, Jew me, KIKE me"
"They don't care about US"
that's all I need to know that everything about him it's fake.
RIP, King Michael

>>220266741
not really because the two are related
OJ Simpson is still the most famous football player ever
if OJ hadn't killed people and if Michael hadn't molested kids, they wouldn't be as famous

>>220266190
99.999% of all humanity agrees with Rowling though. Do you think Dickens, Hemmingway and Tolkien believed a man taking HRT is a woman?

>>220266754
when Michael says "US", what group exactly is he referring to?
Is "US" adults who sleep with little boys and get angry when the cops try to stop them?

>>220266525
>will never see something at his level of celebrity in our lifetimes or next due to the nature of media

I'd argue that Trump is more famous than MJ was, because he has been in the news almost every day for a decade, and much like MJ, his fame is fuelled by publicity stunts and "wacko" antics. Maybe politicians are the new popstars.

>>220266806
Even after being dead, at this day Michael still makes jews and Chuds Kvetch and seethe
he was Indeed the King.
>US
perhaps the United States as a whole since (((they))) consider everyone there goy cattle or perhaps "US" as mankind

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>>220265081
Its so disappointing for someone Like Mike to have such a weak roster of bitches.

>>220266902
do his three children kvetch and seethe?
each of which is biologically Jewish because Michael chose a Jewish woman to birth his kids
I'm just wondering why this big anti-jew crusader would say a couple vague lyrics in a song but then have jew children

>>220266902
his best friend was Rabbi Shmuley Boteach

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Interesting chats they had.

>>220266770
True, i think the allegations and controversy kept MJ very relevant during the 2000's and made his diehard fans even more emotional about him.

By the 2000's MJ's was fading fast due to the rise of rap and other reasons. In 2003 people started giving a shit about him again due to the second wave of allegations. He was in the media 24/7 and parodied on every damn tv show.

>>220266989
He wasn't into bitches, stupid

>>220268236
Didn't he just stop recording music after invincible because he was basically a drug addict

>>220268692
Pretty much. Despite all the PR that MJ would never take drugs and his wife's said the same thing, he was a huge druggo.

MJ is partially still famous because his bizarre behavior starting in 1990 onward vindicated a lot of weirdos, there is something comforting about an unsettling looking person who talks like the pedo from family guy being also the biggest music superstar in the world and also has plausible deniability for all his weird behavior.

It isn't like worshipping some perfect chad where you feel like you're a different species from him, he is somehow simultaneously a gigachad and a pariah, which obviously isn't palatable for everyone but strikes accord with a certain mixture of human empathy, idol worshipping and nurturing instincts.

>>220264665
There was another event where while he was doing The Simpson voice acting, Matt and the others saw him kiss Bart Simpson. But maybe already debunked.

Alot of this is all hearsay and no evidence at all, like the rest of all your cowardly accusations.

>>220260768
Not really, I've seen libs unleash their repressed racism on socially acceptable targets like Bill Cosby, Diddy, D4VE and Kanye.

>>220266810
>famous
The word youre looking for is infamous

>>220270106
Nigger pedophile defender

>>220270196
But enough about trump voters

>>220270176
It's the same thing. No one who is famous in our society is a good person.

>>220270207
What does the president have to do with a nigger pop star who spent his entire adult life raping little white boys?

>>220262834
In Sparta he would have been seen as a gifted educator

>>220259180
That’s a good point. I think the most of the Michael Jackson fans are black women who want to see the “good” in him despite the very obvious weird and strange things that he did that the people who don’t deny reality acknowledge that this guy had some issues including being weird about little boys multiple times like dude get a fucking grip creeepy man

>>220270018
>strikes accord

I'm tired of pretending he was a good singer. He wasn't. His falsetto was weak and his timbre was unpleasant. His breath support didn't sound good either. I'm extremely uncomfortable every time I listen to him sing. And speak for that matter.

>>220270903
He was a better singer as a child. Ties into why he was obsessed with childhood. He knew that's when he peaked. Adult MJ was just smoke and mirrors done very well.

>>220258236
Yes, people who drink and do a little property damage generally have a better reputation than people who fuck kids. Goddamn you're dumb.

>>220258236
But to answer your question yes
If he stopped the soft boy weird fem shit and the multiple times larping as a kid or spending time with kids just don’t even out that message out there, and instead was like Slash or had a badass drug period breaking things in hotel rooms or something he probably would have been respected more

>>220263649
Evidence like him sleeping in undies in a bed with naked prepubescent boys?

>>220258236
He was of a different level than anyone you can name. That type of fame would affect anyone. And I mean anyone. Whether or not he touched kids wouldn’t change his controversy. He’s so famous it was more like a political argument or religious than anything else.

>>220258236
The point is that he seems like a weird soft boy fem faggot who multiple times had some awkward weird shit go down with boys that were not his, it’s not badass it’s cringe and creepy, at least where is the photo of him fucked up with a groupie whore writing on her tits or something, he was like a weird child man we acknowledge his musical gifts but goddam he was the guy from chitty chitty bang bang we all know this

>>220271420
Yea so was Muhammad Ali or some shit or president george Washington they weren’t out there with little boys being suspect they were acting like real men get it enough with the excuses he was a soft boy fem faggot type who was strange about little boys the way most men are not

>>220271458
I can barely understand your rambling. I assume you’re replying to everyone in the thread. Did you get diddled as a kid or something?

>>220271501
No but 12 people (so far) have accused Michael Jackson of doing so to them.
MJ = Pedophile

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>>220271420
Most famous child molester in history.

>>220264613
Genuinely what is up with the last 2 year's attempts to rehabilitate this pedo's image? Literally, I never heard anyone say anything good about his music other than literal factual baby boomers saying Thriller was a big deal. Now, everyone is out here acting like he wasn't just some pop slop and pretending he wasn't a child molestor. It's crazy.

>>220271546
Maybe, he was a musically talented guy he commanded the art form and he captivated people, but he was clearly traumatized as a kid and he repeated the cycle in strange manifestations, he should not have been around little boys even if he was playing it off as harmless it’s a strange thing and he shouldn’t have done it multiple times that means there’s an underlying deep rooted issues at hand

>>220271546
Epsteen is much better protected by the media, governments and JP Morgan.

>>220258236
>he was just another drug fueled destructive asshole
I mean, it was precisely because of the drugs that he got all messed up and died in the end.

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>>220271589
Maybe he was a serial child molester.

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>>220271641
No shit the two can exist
He can make songs that if you didn’t know his back story you would like the song most people like Billie Jean or even at least as a meme now

But The fact that people don’t want to tell
This version of the story is the problem
>>220271589
It’s because his dad is still alive and people are making bread off his sweet tunes like Beat It is just perfect music to play at the grocery store ya get it? But I would personally love to see a movie that approaches him from a psychological thriller perspective and why he ended up needed hard anesthesia to numb himself and go to sleep etc
That’s the real story
Darren Aronofsky where’s your wacko jacko movie

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>>220271691
His whole life was centered around it.

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>>220271691
>Darren Aronofsky where’s your wacko jacko movie
Here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmemNbtykpA&list=PLCAE9C645E2A91C21&index=2

>As a kid believe everything about MJ being a child molester
>Grow up and realize how much of it was completely bullshit
>No real allegations surfaced
>Also wonder why tf he was hanging out with so many kids
Thats the enigma. With ALLLLLLLLLL those kids there how did not one real prove able claim come out?

>>220271691
Yea what I’m saying is where is the psychological thriller about the guy who was a child star probably molested and beaten by his dad and then had a ton of demons including about little boys and needed hard pain drugs to go to sleep etc I want to see that movie not some glorifying bullshit etc to me that would be more interesting and it’s clearly a part of the truth they don’t want to talk about

Like when sacha baron cohen wanted to make the Freddie mercury movie with the hard drugs and sex and aids but Queen said no like Freddie mercury died of aids the dude clearly lived a hardcore lifestyle

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>>220271803
>In his 2003 rebuttal special (The Michael Jackson Interview: Take Two), MJ described being in the delivery room for Paris’ birth. He said she came out facing the wrong way, choking on the umbilical cord. After it was cut, he “snatched her,” wrapped her in a towel, and rushed home, placenta and blood still on her.
>Debbie Rowe later confirmed he froze the placenta too. According to Rowe, their marriage was a “business deal” for kids, no sex involved. She got $8M+ in the divorce.
>In her memoir sister La Toya wrote he snooped drawers and saved nieces/nephews’ soiled diapers.
>Former Neverland staff told the New York Post they found “soiled baby’s diapers” amid his clutter, calling him a “pack rat” who hoarded odd items like kids’ underwear.

>>220271828
>and then had a ton of demons including about little boys
And then willingly became a demon and raped little boys*

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>>220271857
He was literally a hoarder. The maids described him as keeping every single thing a fan ever sent him or threw on stage all over the house.

>>220271794
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmemNbtykpA&list=PLCAE9C645E2A91C21&index=2
Michael Jackson was a serial child rapist. And everyone around him knew it.

>>220258236
he'd still be alive if he didn't name the jew

>>220271889
Yes strictly speaking from a legal perspective the best I can 100% say without a doubt is inappropriate and obsessive. I don’t know if he straight up fucked any of those kids but he definitely acted inappropriate and not correct. I’m not stupid enough to ignore it. But I know that these things are programmed into people and that even if he had these thoughts and urges in his head it probably caused him a lot of mental torture and agony which is why he needed hard drugs anesthesia to numb himself , did you ever hear the one voice thing that got leaked when he was recorded while on the pain drugs he would use to sleep it was creeeepy see below:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B1PE7MipD54

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>>220272056
Thank God he's dead and can't hurt any more little kids.
Conrad Murray is a HERO.

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>Exonerated in court.
>Vindicated by not being in the files.
>Getting loved again in the new movie.
>Folks still seething.

Hit him, kick him you can never get him.

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>>220272085
Holy shit, kek

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>>220272075
Yeah I've heard it. The monster was inspired by Jimmy Savile.
Michael Jackson got chased off his ranch, and decided to move into hospitals.
Pic is it's bedroom when it died.

>>220272085
What's more funny is how every year Hitler gets more and more popular.

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>>220272112
Jeffrey Epstein raped little girls and Michael Jackson raped little boys.

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>>220272143
Ok? Adolf Hitler was a German politician.
Not an American Nigger Pop Star Child Sexual Predator.

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>>220272154
>OH yeah, well...h-here's them standing next to each other!

>>220272138
https://www.instagram.com/p/C_3jUB6vAHp/

I was just about to post the pic you added check out this link he had a cake fight at his birthday party with Aaron Carter LOL, like what a faggot I can’t imagine The Weeknd or someone doing something like that, the dude was clearly living with massive demons in his head lusting after little boys and was drugging himself the fuck up by the end up of his life and numbing himself I want to see a movie about the cold hard reality not the fake image he created that comes up every 5 years or whatever

>>220272285
It's them trafficking children together.
Doesn't take a genius to see that.

>>220272330
Oh, if it's that clear, why don't you show it, hmm?

>>220272309
Naked baby pictures on Michael Jackson's bedroom wall.
Recorded by his nephews, 1993:
https://youtu.be/6pLpJcjQHjc&t=1920

>>220270903
He was a good singer when he was a kid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2bVIBwpCTA

As an adult, he was mostly just known for his dancing/choreography, and overall ability to just write and compose absolute bangers. I didn't mind his singing, but I don't think that's what was winning him awards

>>220258236
>Mick Jagger or Axl Rose

mick jagger and axl rose are still alive, zoom-zoom. have either of them ever OD’ed?

meanwhile wacko jacko died because he was a tranquilizer addict.

>>220272416
Little did the audience know that this talented little kid would grow up to become the most prolific pedophile predator in human history.
The world is sad.

>>220270216
>No one who is famous in our society is a good person.
Idolatry is dehumanizing, for both the idol and the idolater. Celebrity, royalty, et cetera -- it will crush your soul.

>>220264427
>>220264777

He was hooked on sleeping drugs after his constant burn pains, leading to unwise behavior.

Steve Irwin put his kid next to a crocodile

>>220272496
It’s weird to me that people deny the creepy part of him or think it’s a conspiracy that he said kike when actually other artists also have and are still alive, like there’s two Michael Jackson’s, the image he put out with his music and music videos and concerts him using his talent to create an image a brand that people grasp onto as fans, then him as the person who knew people and interacted with people, he was Michael Jackson, like you would think ok have your mansion throw a party and invite other famous people do shit like that, but he got really weird with it and multiple times was finding himself in compromising situations with little boys of all things, not something that should be ignored I think and I think he was ultimately talented at times but a weirdo

>>220272496
>most prolific pedophile
JFC, you Epstein Defence Force guys need to chill the fuck out if you want people to take you seriously. He was a pederast, not a pedophile. Get it right

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Jews have been making non-stop MJ threads that all follow a similar template for the past week. What's going on?

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>>220272603
https://youtu.be/6pLpJcjQHjc&t=1920

I checked to see if the late film critic John Simon had ever written about MJ, and discovered he wrote a 2006 review of an MJ biography. An excerpt:

"...The Southern California law courts, to be sure, acquitted Jackson, but where being a black celebrity gets you away with uxoricide and double murder, who would convict a mere stellar pedophile? Feeding a young boy pornographic literature and spiking his drinks with booze before sharing a bed with him is surely proof of nothing, and Nicole Simpson and that hapless young waiter undoubtedly died of mere fright at the sight of a wrathful O.J.

Yet Jackson's sex life, or lack of it, is less amazing than his turning surgically from a black boy into what for all practical purposes looks like a white woman. Though his Ruritanian wardrobe and creepy videos bespeak a blend of bad taste and ghoulishness, and his singing is humdrum, Jackson's dancing is incontestably expert, to which Fred Astaire himself testified."

>>220272759
Based MJ for calling out kikes and OJ for killing a roastie.

Michael ate and drank Women pussy he was a complete Chad and had many groupies there was no need for him to go after shotas and lolis with Bill Gates i would understand he is an ugly piece of shit who is nothing without his money

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>>220258236
Got Away with it Award.

>>220258334
He never really stopped. He took a break from the media circus in 2005 but he was still making music. That's why two albums came out after his death

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>>220272816
Michael raped and maybe possibly murdered and cannibalized little boys. Sure.
JACKO is in HELL.

Pedo

>>220272930
So Trump?

>>220258236
MJ the Predator Child Rapist.
King of Pedophiles.

>>220272416
>ability to write bangers

yes and no. A few of his best songs were written by rod temperton.
it's funny when you see Dave Chappelle basically say it's okay for Michael to be a pedo because he made thriller when rod wrote it.

>>220260201
The vitiligo shit was real tho. There are pictures of him out there that show it. The nose thing being reconstructive from some blood vessel constriction or whatever I dunno.

>>220258236
I don't understand why surgery was done in the first place.

>>220262051
>axl rose
PO-LICE AND NIGGERS
GET OUTTA MY WAY

>>220273115
To delude the public from his child molestation.

>>220264269
That song is great though.

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>>220273106
This picture?

>>220264269
>And axl literally has a song where he says police and niggers
>Lol
he was a small town whiteboy just trying to make ends meet.

how about this take:
He made great music AND raped children. I wish MJ fans would bite the bullet plus Mj was also abused so it makes him more of a complicated character than pure evil

>>220273236
Not the one I remember. The one i remember is a paparazzi pic. he's dressed in black iirc, and you can see it around his wrists.

Whatever weird occult thing Elvis had going on, MJ was copying that. “The King”. They both had handlers and both movies have pivotal scenes at a carnival. The difference is Elvis had a self awareness and sense of humor about himself that MJ lacked. Elvis was actually a likable guy.

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>>220273337
This one?

>>220273414
No. But I'm not about to start searching around on my phone.

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>>220273276
All his music was about raping children though
Is that great to you?

>>220258236
I know y'all like stroking yourself to Jackson and imaginary sexual shit that is part of your depraved minds, but if you could all put your dicks away for just a second can we talk about the true criminal and ethical catastrophe here - that a perfectly healthy man with an infinite amount of money died at 50 years old of a drug he was given by a medical practitioner?

It's murder. Jackson would and should still be alive and well today. We will never know what he would have thought of the modern world. We'll never know what music he would have given us. The world is changed forever due to what happened to him - and yet such practices keep going.

Big Pharma took MJ and it should have been enough to destroy them. Instead they continue as if nothing had happened, killing and destroying the lives of countless millions in the time since. And you're here worried to hell that maybe he had some kind of illicit sexual encounter with underage boys. Child abuse is an important issue but there comes a time when it's too emphasized. No matter what Jackson did it's highly unlikely any kids have any sort of trauma from it.

>>220273411
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mE1GcRDnYgw

>>220273089
Honestly, most modern pop stars just buy songs off other writer/composers (at least before AI) It was kind of an open secret in the music world. But MJ did legit compose a lot of his own stuff from scratch.
https://youtu.be/slSJgdlDXx0
I remember watching this testimony when I was a lot younger, and i just thought "yup, that's a plausible defense". but rewatching it now as an adult who has become a type of artist myself, I can see his reactions to his own WIPs, and I can 100% relate to this for all the times I go back through my old source files and fondly reminisce about shit. There are some times that I can see I was absolutely cooking, and other times I'm like "yeah, that's a miss. I fucked up". I 100% believe he was being entirely honest in showing his process here

>>220273676
MJ’s appearance in this is freaky and off putting. His entire personality is weird and gay as fuck. He’s going “hee hee” in this like a little gay boy. MJ acted like an alien pedophile. In comparison I saw the Elvis concert film that came out recently and Elvis is making jokes and interacting with the audience the whole time. Because Elvis didn’t become famous until he was an adult but MJ was groomed as a child. MJ will never have the genuine love of the people that Elvis achieved, despite his music success

>>220258236
Yes most people don't even hate Rose and Jagger anymore since they've long calmed down. In fact I don't think Jagger was ever widely hated outside of religious groups.
>>220272486
Are you retarded? OP asked whether MJ would have a better reputation than those two if he had behaved like them when he was alive instead of being a coocoo like dangling his baby over a hotel window or creating a ranch called neverland where he invited little boys to play

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>RAC B

>>220273464
I don’t think Bad is about raping children but if it was I wouldn’t be a fan

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>>220274279
I like this feelin' you're givin' me
Just hold me, baby, and I'm in ecstasy
Oh, I'll be workin' from nine to five
To buy you things to keep you by my side
I've never felt so in love before
Just promise, baby, you'll love me forever more
I swear I'm keepin' you satisfied
'Cause you're the one for me
The way you make me feel!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaRuAQbDz7Y

He was a fucking weirdo but I'm not convinced that he actually fucked kids. I have no bias btw.

>>220262834
You need to go back

>>220275456
Your rulers in the American cabinet are the real weirdos John

>>220260201
The vitiligo is real but he bleached himself to mask it because he was pathologically self-conscious about his appearance

>>220271666
Satan digits aside, this isn't even that weird.
baby bottles are kinda one of the most normal ways to drink shit while still being fully reclined and not really devoting any brain power to your drink. Flex straw cups didn't really become a thing until the mid 90's. And even then, you need to pay attention to the straw, and you can't tip the cup too much or it will leak all over you. This just seems like a life hack

>I slept in a bed with all of them when Macaulay Culkin was little: Kieran Culkin would sleep on this side, Macaulay Culkin was on this side, his sisters in there…we all would just jam in the bed, you know. “We would wake up like dawn and go in the hot air balloon, you know, we had the footage. I have all that footage.

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>>220275955
>jam in the bed

>guy who was denied a childhood wants to provide one for others
wow very draining and complex psychological phenomena at play here, there must be ulterior motives somewhere, he must want to fuck children

>>220273521
The only reason Jackson fell under the ministrations of Dr. Death was that he had been a degenerate junkie for at least ten years before. And he turned to drugs to escape the stress of being the notorious Neverland sleepover man. It seems to me he dealt all these blows to himself.

>>220264953
You can charge someone with multiple crimes. The reason he wasn't charged with CP possession is because it wasn't cp, apparently.

>>220276565
I don't know how people believe that. His brothers didn't have much of a childhood either and they were not sleeping with little boys.

>>220272416
His singing isn't particularly good here. It's just that he was ahead of the curve. Most kids that age can't sing at all. He sang decently (because his family taught him) and that made him a remarkable singer for his age. Pavarotti didn't start taking singing seriously until his early 20s.

>>220277020
they didnt have his wealth or influence hope that makes sense, most people alive cant even name a single jackson other than michael, not his brothers or his father and in some cases even michaels children too
his brothers made enough to retreat from society. michael made enough to create his own society. theres a big difference

>>220276565
Oh give me a fucking break. I dealt with a myriad of health issues as a kid that denied me a normal childhood. Never had a friend group, was in and out of school, didn't socialize much. I'm fine. Stop excusing predators.

>>220277197
What’s the last thing you jerked it to, anon?

>>220277197
>blah blah blah, im fine
yes michael jackson was also fine, you are the one complaining

>>220277239
Your mom

Can someone tell me why zoomers cry so much about age gaps and grooming these days but they're ok with eulogizing a nigger who clearly abused children and literal babies?

>>220277832
its literally as simple as zoomers are unable to generate thoughts on their own, and the biggest driving force behind approved opinions are far left loonies

>>220259180
Yea, I took my 76 yr old mom and a bunch of her grannny friends last weekend because they asked. Theater was jam packed with woman of all ages. The twinkle coming from their eyes like they are back being on their prime womanhood singing along to michael's iconic songs. It was worthed. Bro is a legend ngl. I'm just glad my mom is happy af for at least one day.

>>220278099
I went with my mom too. She cried during the hospital scene after the hair burning. This is definitely the best movie for a mamas boy outing with his mother.

>>220278099
>>220278149
Your mothers sound like retarded goycattle

>>220278149
Yeah, it's a rare thing nowadays to just have a mindless fun with your old mom. I wish I can make her happy like that all the time. Kinda hard desu. I'm glad she asked.

>>220278193
There is a comforting simplicity to my mother that I enjoy and wish to protect. Her generation did have some heavy brainwashing, but I just want her to be happy in her old age.

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>>220278385
My mom was telling me about being a teenager when Off The Wall came out. She said everyone loved the Jacksons, they were like the teen heartthrobs for black girls at that time. There was a little talk about Michael having a solo project but no one thought much of it other than it being vanity project. Then she heard Don't Stop Til You Get Enough playing at the mall and all the girls went crazy and ran to the record store to buy the album. I love that story because she experienced Michael Jackson becoming a solo star firsthand and the cultural reaction to it. It was such a big deal.

The songs would probably sound better without his vocals.

>I'm not the father
>Don't have kids
>Be an asshole
etc

>>220265164
>>220266632
This used to be argued in the past and it makes some sense, the naked body is interesting after all. Also several decades ago like coffeetable books would have some stuff like tat, so it was easier to argue then. They used to even let "child erotica" pass despite it having a sexual aspect in the name. I saw a guy who unsuccessfully tried to argue that for why he was caught with thousands of pictures of nude boys in the newspaper recently, I couldn't help but laugh - being outed not only as a pedo but also a faggot. I think he went to prison too.

>>220259180
>>220270792
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>>220278099
Something you might not know is the majority of the jurors for MJs 2005 trial were women. The prosecution found this odd because they figured motherly instinct would have them vehemently against a person accused of molesting children. However, the defense wanted them because they thought women would be less judgemental about a man's sensitivity and unmasculine behavior, whereas men would be insecure about their own sexuality and project it. The jury's verdict was 9-3 in favor of not guilty. The jury also had no black people.

>>220262659
>>dressing in disguises
To be fair he needed to otherwise he'd get totally mobbed and not even in a manageable way. If he went to a basketball game they'd literally have to stop the game.
>>losing his religion over thriller
Good. Jehovah's Witness is Black Mormonism. Shame that Prince later got indoctrinated into it.
>>wearing make up to bed
Nothing wrong with that. If you get acne just wear makeup over it.

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>>220264124
How does she look so white?

>>220265582
That whole story is incredibly funny from her POV. She goes to meet MJ and she's wondering why her husband isn't worried. Then she comes back and he's like "wanna fuck?" And she tells him she wants a divorce and he's like "Alright"

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>>220258236
He's the greatest black man to ever live, hee hee.

>>220262834
I don't care if you're trolling, it's not funny

>>220258236
JACKO on his BACKO! I NEED TO HEAR IT!

>>220271794
>"What's today's date? I never wanna forget this."
>"5 minutes after midnight. September 11th, 2001"
>Smashcut to Twin Towers

>>220280575
he just wanted to share his love with young chirren, SHAMONE!

Michael could have been better in my opinion Michael was innocent but i think the biopic was too safe Michael father was a thousand times worse than he was portrayed in the film im sure he raped Michael and there are rumors that he castrated him undoubtedly Michael brothers still have some affection for their father which is why they didnt portray him so badly

>>220271803
In my mind the best piece of evidence is the fact that the vitiligo blotches on his penis match up with the description provided by the children. Of course that doesn't prove he molested them, but come on. In what situation could you ever be naked in front of children? Even if you just like children platonically why would you ever allow that to happen?

>>220279889
Pedo's always target the mothers because women are dumb and fall for that "appeal to emotion" rubbish. MJ played that card well with the whole "i didn't have a childhood"

He likes peterpan, that explain everything. It's not a pedo thing, he's literally a manchild who does not want to grow up and does not want to be around adults. Only kids and monkeys allowed to play all day. Bro is fucked for sure but who can blame him for having a giga scumbag of a father like that.

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Zoomer here, why did he only have 3 solo tours

>>220280769
Wrong

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>>220273884
How did he get a reputation for being a good songwriter?
>Beat it (beat it, beat it)
>Beat it (beat it, beat it)
>Beat it (beat it), beat it (beat it)
>No one wants to be defeated!
And his so-called inferior rival puts out
>You're just a sinner, I am told
>Be your fire when you're cold
>Make you happy when you're sad
>Make you good when U are bad
>I'm not a human, I am a dove
>I'm your conscience, I am love
>All I really need is to know that U believe
>Yeah, I would die 4 U

>>220280989
Nta
Mj songs were catchy afk. Although I agree that Prince was a superior musician

>>220258236
What did Mick Jagger destruct? He's doing fine and the band is still playing 60 years later.

>>220281130
What I find more odd is that Prince hasn't been brought up at all. If people think MJ is a Pedo then their natural counter should be Prince. He loved fucking women, bragged about fucking women, and also never even had an allegation brought up.

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>>220281211
>In 1990, he saw 16-year-old dancer Mayte García standing outside his tour bus and referred to her as his "future wife" when pointing her out to bandmate Rosie Gaines.
Nice try princefag