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holy shit this was much better than I remembered, too bad it started to suck after the Dark Tournament arc
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>>220268832
Go back to /a/
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Sensui arc was fine. Three Kings did the best it could with the material it had to work with, and it at least made an actual story out of it. The ending was 10/10.

>>220268926
Guarantee he made the exact same thread on /a/ already, image and all
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Dark Tournament is just unparalleled kino, though. Every scene with Hiei is just chuunibyo-core.
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Dark Tournament was just the most perfectly executed tournament arc with one of the most well-executed villain arcs in the medium, so it's very hard to follow up. Chapter Black was good just uneven in its pacing and development with its new characters. Three Kings needed more polish but I stand by that the series finale is a fantastic conclusion.
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>>220268832
The Dark Tournament remains the peak of anime
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>>220268984
This. YYH is solid all the way through, and doesn't go on too long or have nearly any filler. Top tier anime, and I was disappointed by Hunter x Hunter because my expectations were set too high by YYH.
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>>220268943
>>220268926
If the ghost in the shell thread on /tv/ is allowed then so is this
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>>220269061
>there are no police officers on this street so it's okay for me to drive 250mph!
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>>220268832
And Hunter x Hunter is even better than YYH, go watch or read that if you haven't.
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>>220268832
Sensui was the best villian tho
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>>220269096
Fuck you. I was told the Chimera Ant Arc was the peak of anime and I watched all of HxH just for the arc I was waiting for to be 2/5ths fucking retarded irrelevant filler. At least YYH never wastes your time.
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>>220268832
Only the five first episodes are good. I even got emotional when Urameshi arrived at his own funeral. The rest of the show is shonen slop. I'd say that Togashi is a hack, but Netero blowing himself is peak japanese animation or animation in general.
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>>220269233
One of the best first eps of any show I’ve seen
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>>220269233
>The rest of the show is shonen slop.
>Just add slop to genre or demographic and you don't have to justify your retarded contrarian opinions.
Great stuff, /tv/
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>>220269199
Chimera Ant Arc was great because it started out as just a generic shounen arc and ended by becoming absolute kino. The dumb random early fights enhanced the arc since they made people think the arc was going to go one way, then it went another.
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>>220269273
He’s not entirely wrong. It felt very unique for the first 3 volumes or so and then it was just battles and power ups
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>>220269279
>It subverts your expectations, you guys, that means it's kino!
Way to ignore the criticism of so much of it being filler. That criticism can be leveled at the entire show, actually.
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Battle tournament shounen is the worst kind of shounen.

Give me City Hunter or Trigun over this kiddie crap any day,
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>>220269046
Any sort of tournament in an anime is filler. Everything after season 1 was a tournament.
> how do we solve this?
> tournament
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>>220268832
Chapter black hits different after Epstein honestly
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>>220269356
>Any sort of tournament in an anime is filler.
Explain how. It's the impetus for major characterization and plot beats. If you don't like tournaments, just say that, but don't think it counts as legitimate criticism, because it doesn't.
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>>220269094
dangerously based
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>>220269342
"Subverting your expectations" usually just means something you thought was going to be good actually turned out to be shit. The Chimera Ant Arc is a rare case of subverting expectations actually elevating the material.
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>>220269370
Shit I thought that too.
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>>220269279
I can’t reread Hunter x Hunter anymore because I hate the way that the arc made me feel and I have to fucking reread the whole god damned thing every time he decides to dump his average 5 chapters every two years.
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>>220268984
I'd still put Survivor Match for the Kinniku Throne above Dark Tournament
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>>220269377
Majority of the time theres nothing actually happening. Half of each episode will be the two fighters talking to eachother about shit that doesnt matter, then 1/3 of it will be going to side characters reactions. Then they will finally fight, then thats done for like 6 episodes.

Its fine if its spaced out, but the original premise of yyh from its season 1 had so much more promise. Then nothing was ever investigated again, everything was done to figure out, how to do another tournament.
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>>220269233
kek shame the show turns into Temu Dragonball Z real fast, by the end Urameshi is literally a super saiyan form 4 lmaoooo
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>>220269472
>nothing was ever investigated again,
Chapter Black
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>>220269594
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>>220269625
>the average 4channel user has seen more fucked up shit than a VHS that drove a guy so insane he developed multiple personality disorder to cope
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Dub is overrated.
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>>220269661
Chapter black is canonically the worst stuff to he found on this site, any other, and stuff not even documented.
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>>220269669
Kuwabara’s voice is kino tho
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>>220269686
Granted. It’s doubtful any combination of visual stimulus could drive me insane at this point
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>>220269463
Really good choice honestly.
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YYH is actually perfect all the way through except the Three Kings arc I could argue wasn't as great as the others. What's so unique is how drastically different all 4 of the big arcs are in tone and plot, so everyone has a favorite (most people say Dark Tournament because its just fucking sick as shit and Bui v the final 2 fights are fucking insane). I read the manga as a kid and in that format I think the first 2 volumes are the best, because it was like an actual detective story where he was a ghost floating around helping other ghosts accept their life and death and pass on. There was one about a dog that made me krey as a boy.

In the show they didn't do as good a job with dead Yusuke imo. They did the thing with the house on fire and the possessing Kuwabara's body and then respawned him ASAP to get the rest of the cast together for Suzaku. My favorite is Chapter Black because I'm a faggot contrarian and I love the bleak panicky vibe of it. It was emotionally deeper than Dark Tournament I think. And Sensui is a cool as shit deranged psychopath.

I know the Dark Tournament is everyone's favorite, I just ask that everyone reconsider and rewatch the whole series and think of each of the 4 sagas as different subgenres. It's always very shonen, but it goes from like a detective story, to the best tounament arc every made, to a dark psychological thriller, to whatever you wanna call Three Kings; tournament arc 2.0 or something.

Read the first 2 volumes of the manga, nothing after that is much different from the series I don't think. Sorry for ranting.
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>>220269721
Stronger man than me. Having looked through the Epstein Files, I'm positive a full compilation of all their activities broadcast to the public would establish a united Euro-American 4th Reich that would last 1000 years.
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>>220269233
Recently Ive rewatched the first episode of YYH and holy shit it goes very hard for a kids show. Yusukes funeral fucked me up even today.

Also, whats your favorite Dark Tournament fight, not counting Yusuke x Toguro?

For me, its Genkai x Shishiwakamaru
https://youtu.be/CF_QCO0HsrM?si=uBC01upl06i3KnSf
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>>220269751
I actually really liked 3 kings. Divided loyalties and the characters we've come to love having separate goals was great.
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>>220269751
I think everyone has the opinion Sensui>Dark Tournament, at least here. Was this post intended for reddit?
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>>220269777
>Also, whats your favorite Dark Tournament fight, not counting Yusuke x Toguro?
Anyone who doesn't say Knife-Edge Death Deathmatch has no taste.
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>>220269801
Chapter Black had higher highs but lower lows. Dark Tournament was consistently solid battle shounen but not especially well-written. It's a matter of what you're willing to overlook.
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>>220269777
I think it is the best first and last episode of any long running animu series I ever saw.

>>220269789
I liked it too, I just have less stuff to say about it. I did think Raizen was one of the coolest characters and character designs in the show though.

>>220269801
I don't think I've seen a yyh thread on /tv/ in years and I am not an /a/ guy, it seemed from this thread that the majority of people though Dark Tournament was best. But no I do not am Redditing.

>>220269809
It's up there but it's gotta be Bui x Hiei right? They had the most badass looking fight. Dude sucked up his own black dragon it was dope
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>>220269777
>favorite Dark Tournament fight
Kurama vs Ura Urashima. Us fans who had been paying attention were like
>yo….wait aminute hol up… an item that de-ages you? Wouldn’t that mean…. Oooooh shiiiiiiii—
gave myself goosebumps membering
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>>220269855
I agree with this
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you have to finish the dark tournament to see the goods, though
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>>220268832
Dark Tournament was a fucking slog for me, it's like if you took a DB tournament but took away everything that made them interesting
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>>220269751
I liked that the demon world tourney was won by some random NPC demon off-screen.
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>>220269915
Lmao based 90s pervert.
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>>220268832
it's frustrating YYH still doesn't get much recognition despite how well it holds up and how much the dark tournament arc is praised to this day. I still hold out hope that some dev will go out on a limb and make a new game since it never got a really good one.
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>>220268926
Or what?
Huh faggot?
What are you going to do?
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>>220270276
I played the GBA Spirit Detective like 20 times as a kid. It probably was trash but I loved it. I also had the ps2 Dark Tournament game and loved that, but I KNOW it was trash because I tried it again a few years ago.
I am pretty sure there are at least 2 others, and maybe some jap only ones? I used to love playing anime games on GBA
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>>220268943
Middle of chapter black was peak Yu Yu
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>>220270348
I like when Puu evolves into Moltres
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>>220269061
Everyone already forgot about the live action, /tv/core
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>>220270379
Shit you're right, I did completely forget about that. I think I watched the first episode but wasn't into it, was it bad?
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>>220270276
>it's frustrating YYH still doesn't get much recognition
It's the most consistently praised shonen out there, even better than Dragon Ball in that regard. You have to try very hard to find someone criticizing it.
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>>220269751
>I just ask that everyone reconsider and rewatch the whole series and think of each of the 4 sagas as different subgenres
Hunter x Hunter does pretty much the same thing, all the arcs are distinctly different from each other
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>>220269233
>>220269267
togashi wanted to do a shojo manga with ghost detective shit but shonen jump got on his ass about it and he had to start adding in all the fighting.

then of course hunter x hunter he owns outright and can't be told to do shit anymore
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>>220269661
He didn’t go insane because of the tape, he went insane at the shit he saw on Epstein’s island then he killed all of those elites and THEN stole chapter black
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>>220270347
the GBA spirit detective game is bad but it has its own charm if you're a fan of the series. the PS2 game I just remember being incredibly bad and having no redeeming qualities. I never really messed with the jp only ones or the GBA tactics game.
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>>220271067
Remember that fuckin card mini game but it was tokens? And getting through some of the combos in tutorial was just hell lol. I remember during the Genkai v Toguro fight that's scripted for you to lose because his defense was stupid high or something, I was able to beat by spamming scissor kick. Of course it still played her death cutscene like normal but it was the first time I ever did something like that and I thought it was cool like when I got on top of Peach's castle without the cannon or all the stars
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>>220268832
I saw a few episodes of this but then I found out they have about six thousand episodes and noped the fuck out.
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>>220270969
*Yawn*
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>>220268832
While not as good as the original, the live action series was quite enjoyable.
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>>220271162
There are like 112 episodes its nowhere near as many as most long running anime.
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>>220271181
112 episodes is still 102 episodes too many.
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>>220271249
I like short series too but its basically a different genre. Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood has 70 something episodes, is that a bad show too???
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>>220271307
I have no idea as I’ve never heard of that show. But to answer your question, yes.
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>>220270309
Kiss you
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>>220270417
It would have been perfectly fine had they ended it with the rescue Yukina arc and left the Dark Tournament for a season 2, instead they did a really rushed Dark Tournament lite where they fight against Team Toguro.
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>>220271178
Just another day in isreal
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the arc after the tournament is great (prototype HxH) despite lacking fights but the closing arc is a massive letdown demonstrating that the author had checked out
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Chapter Black is actually better than the Dark Tournament in a lot of ways. The ending just sucks.

>>220268943
Three Kings in the manga was trash though
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>>220269233
>>220269319
-Yusuke being a ghost and coming back to life is a complete story and marks the first 'era' of YYH in my mind.
-Yusuke being a detective marks the second 'era'. I think that the Underworld Treasures and Genkai arc are obviously part of this and I would probably include the flute mission and maybe the 'rescue Hiei's sister' arc as well.
-The third 'era' is just shonen battle after shonen battle and starts with either the 'rescue Hiei's sister' arc or if not that Dark Tournament.
There are still occasional interludes but the majority of the series becomes battle arcs.

It's one of the very rare cases where all three arcs are excellent and the series retains an enjoyable storyline and high quality all the way through.

The chapter where Kuwabara needs to give up fighting and pass a test is the emotional heart of the series and is the most important single story in the entire series. I will not elaborate.
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>>220269751
the manga reads as if someone tapped Togashi on the shoulder and said "have you read this Dragon Ball shit? Cause this shit is nice, get that shit in here ASAP".
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>>220268832
>too bad it started to suck after the Dark Tournament
you mean during the dark tourney, right?
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>>220271854
Accidental zionpost, given they’re bathing in the blood of literal demons
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>>220269761
>Having looked through the Epstein Files
there was nothing even in them
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>>220272081
Yeah anon but think about what COULD be in them *shivers*
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never forget what they took from you
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>>220272020
>the manga reads as if someone tapped Togashi on the shoulder and said "have you read this Dragon Ball shit? Cause this shit is nice, get that shit in here ASAP".
Togashi is a huge Dragon Ball fan actually.
>"Rereading Dragon Ball was so inspiring that I broke out the ink and I've been writing chapters non-stop. I sent Naoko out to stock up on boxes of iced coffee because I just can't stop writing these chapters. I'm working 18 hours a day and I don't think I'll ever be able to stop."
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I really wish Chapter Black had more fights like DT, its wild calling it a tounament >>220269356
when the majority of the villains are beaten completely isolated circumstances and half of them are barely even fights, its no more a tournament than the fights and altercations in first arc


>>220269046
HxH fags dick suck their elite high IQ story so hard (with mediocre protags desu) that they'll never admit that Dark Tournament by far mogs anything in HxH and I actually enjoyed that series aswell, DT has better characters, designs, wayyy better action and fights and has a magic system that doesn't require the over complicated Nen system that tries and acts like because it takes a book to fully describe it makes it a better power system, Yusuke has no match in HxH, Kuawabaru is funny, hard headed, filled with heart and romance, as in he actually has a rounded dynamic unlike Leorio, Hiei looks awesome, is peak anime edge badass swordsmidge and has real aura mogging Killua, Kurama is art between the awesome demon fox form, the cool rose whip, the plant themes, love for his mother, intellect, while still superior to Kurapika I'll grant that yorknew made Kurapika the best character in HxH and had the strongest arc with the coolest hype moment.
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>>220269686
ok so why did Sensui keep on watching all that child porn on vhs though?
just turn the tv off man
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>>220269751
This is about my take too, chapter black's only failure is the final battle making everyone useless until the Raizen ass pull, also the doctor character was kinda dumb
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>>220272203
How did the police even find out he had it? Not that it should be illegal to begin with, being legally produced before the law changed
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>>220272361
It’s addicting. Even if you’re not into it sexually. Breaking the taboo is thrilling…THATS WHAT I IMAGINE
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>>220271492
The fighting and effects were better than I was expecting but yeah it was kind of too fast paced and lacked dramatic build-up. It was an interesting take for the protag group to be forced into a fight with the Toguro gang in an actual mission scenario without having the fight being fixed. I haven't paid any attention since it released but am now curious if there's any possibility of a 2nd chapter black season, I'd think the bulk of that arc would be easier to adapt than a full fledged dark tournament
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>>220270348
>Gamemaster’s slow realization that his ability will kill him when he inevitably loses
kino
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>English soundtrack is better than the jap soundtrack

https://youtu.be/eHf0-CHdQCo?si=S96istTZG7M7GRsy
https://youtu.be/0lt8pz4B8vs?si=mfPENE6qL0qkuQY6
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>>220272247
>I'm working 18 hours a day and I don't think I'll ever be able to stop
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>>220271249
Some of /tv/s favorite shows are like 5 seasons with 15 45 minute episodes
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>>220269046
HxH is better because every arc is varied in terms of characters, storytelling and genres. Will it ever finish? Probably not. Still the best manga out there by a mile.
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this guy was so weird and freaky and like many of Chapter Blacks characters we were robbed of any actual fight, sure elder toguro return was cool but that should've happened after a full length fight with gourmet
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>>220269801
nah and I'm a lifelong huge YYH fan, Black may be more intelligent with a mor elaborate story and Sensui has more depth than any tournament villain but if you enjoy fights like any sensible YYH should Black competely robs you, goes from like 12-16 good fights in tournament to like 3 in Black, idc if Black is a cool psycho thriller its lacking in the most core element of shonen anime
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>>220273109
The confrontation of Gourmet and Kurama is resolved so fast, but its really uncanny.
>Gourmet literally eats Elder Toguros remains
>Elder Toguro takes over Gourmets body
>Kurama traps him in a nightmare reality
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>>220269916
cant imagine what kind of soulless fun hater is behind this post
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HxH is good but too ambitious at times. Chimera Ant Arc probably should have cut 30 percent of it. There were several Chimera Ants who shouldn't have had stories and once they were infiltrating, it got tedious with the fights that seemed to go nowhere and had endless exposition of their Nen abilities.
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>>220273379
>the one homo is suspiciously outside the vagina-shaped archway
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>>220271067
>>220271147
Dark Tournament fighting game was fun albeit as a teen its very obvious that is filled with flaws, still it channels the animes vibes very well, its got an awesome roster including almost every character you'd ask for, most of it was terribly balanced and its a shame the characters could be separated into tier lists where certain completely mog others
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>>220271249
what a fucking faggot, 100 episodes is nothing at all and most sensible people don't even need to watch the last arc, if a show is good it can run forever, its very rare but theres a couple examples and one is an anime
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>>220268832
YYH was only good for like the first 6 episodes, after that it became a generic battle shonen
not bad but too by the numbers for my taste
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>>220271492
And I'm guessing its not picked up for a second season? That's crazy if they actually don't plan on doing the dark tournament
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>>220272478
I have a buddy in prison that said the exact same thing. No joke.
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>>220272376
Yeah he was dumb but it gave Yusuke that cool "wah I killed a human for the first time" thing for a minute
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>>220268832
Best shonen of all time.
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>>220272632
Fuck man... all the memories... the first time I saw this show was at my grapndparents house on adult swim in like 2003ish. I was 8. I've watched it front to back a dozen times since then. These songs trigger really special memories.
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>>220273504
Oh yeah as a kid it was a fucking blast, it got all the actual teams from Urameshi's bracket in the roster. I never got very deep into it outside of playing single player by myself as a kid, who was top tier? My feeling is genkai because I just remember everything feeling easier as her but I didn't really explore that many characters very deeply
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>>220272081
If you ignore references to eating children and a network of Jewish supremacists with kompromat on major world leaders, yeah, I'm sure there's nothing to see here.
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>>220273052
You can say the same thing about Jojo's



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