Are anti-heroes better than heroes?
>>220271824>believing that people can be "heroes"Grow up. Everyone's in it for themselves, the world is a jungle.
>dude like i'm an asshole but i like have a heart of gold too lmaoWho writes this shit?
>>220271858I'm a hero
I reject the idea of an anti-hero. People do what they do to stay alive and possibly prosper.
>>220271824The only kinda interesting story you can do with a morally good hero character is have them fail and get sad about it for a while before regaining their purpose.If they have to compromise their morality to get something done then they are no longer are straight up hero and for them not to do so is just a copout and refuses to address the problem.
>>220271824It's hard to tell the difference sometimes. As a Bong, I've noticed that many American heroes are also anti-heroes to some extent, because they oppose the system and have a personal difference that sets them apart from the status quo. John McClane is not usually termed an anti-hero, yet he's an alcoholic, struggles with family, has an anti-authoritarian attitude, etc. Top Gun's Maverick is another who throws out the rules and does his own thing, often endangering others in the process. This tradition goes all the way back to Westerns, where the cowboy hero will often share characteristics with the outlaws and Indians.
>>220271867was he an asshole?
>>220271878>File deletedGood. Posting the frog should be an instant ban
>>220271985No
Depends on the value you want from a character. A hero character, one who does the right thing no matter what and follows the guidelines life has set for them by their lives/societies (heroes like Luke Sywalker violates societal values which exist within their world, but are encouraged by ours) is better suited for more traditional tales, where the hero is something everyone should want to be, an Übermensch if you will. Meanwhile an anti-hero character is someone who performs actions which values are societally good, even if they're done for personally selfish or isolated reasons, reasons that don't fit societal expectations. Such characters are more personally deep, and you either relate to them directly, understand them indirectly, or despise them directly. I struggle to find anti-hero characters within the modern day (post 2020), as such characters have been seemingly reduced to “they're a good guys but the curse and kill people”.
>>220271932>I reject the idea of an anti-hero. People do what they do to stay alive and possibly prosper.anti-hero does it for selfish reasons, dumbass.if they were selfless they would just be heroes
>>220271974Being an individualistic rebel and fighting against the system was something that we viewed as the ultimate expression of what it meant to be American. John McClane, Maverick, Rocky, Arnold in most of his movies, Riggs in Lethal Weapon, and even someone like Robocop, these were all things that Americans viewed as quintessentially American, and thus heroic. What is also interesting about this is how it was largely free of politics, and people and characters who were too subservient to the system were seen as bootlicking losers.... how times have changed. Make sure you show your vaxx passport before attending the Rage Against the Machine concert.
>>220272221Almost like an individual can never change a system and in reality is just fullfilling his selfish desires
>>220272245But we're not talking about strict reality here, we're talking about modern-day folk heroes and the ideals they represent. The legend of Robin Hood was just peasant whimsy, not history, but the popularity of the legend tells us something about the mindset of those ancient plebs. It speaks of men who dared imagine a better society. When the modern peasant stops telling those stories, he's not only defeated in the material realm, he has also given up the fight in his heart.
>>220272166So it's just a person. No reason to label them as a hero at all.
>>220271858Fpbp. What's up with all the brown teenagers on this board?
>>220271858>fictional characters shouldn't be heroes>if you enjoy a heroic character in a film, that means you're one of the blind benighted sheeple who can't separate fact from fiction>only myself and a select few have the ability to see the truth: films aren't real!Hoo man, this really is the official incel site.
>>220272969Sorry that my post made you shit your diaper but heroes do not exist and the concept is not real.
