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>A recent focus group conducted by Matthew Belloni paints a bleak picture of where younger audiences stand with Star Wars. “I like the old stuff, but the new stuff… nah. I’m not too excited” one teen said. Another claimed: “Anything that came out after I was born isn’t that great.”

the kids are alright
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https://geeksandgamers.com/remove-star-wars-sequel-trilogy/
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>>220307373
fucking based
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shut the fuck up any star wars, sick of it
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>>220307373
Why do the kids like the old stuff so much more?
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>>220307373
Wow it's almost like people just like well made shit regardless of when they were born.
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>>220307887
That’s crazy talk
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>>220307373
Is what happened to Star Wars the biggest franchise blunder ever?
They had the biggest thing ever, and the guy who made it, and they decide to throw him out in favor of... winging it? What were they thinking?
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>>220307832
because it was made for them
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>>220308042
>What were they thinking?
"The Force is female" is what they were thinking.
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>>220308042
>What were they thinking?
"we can write better original stories than those straight white men. in fact, we're such great storytellers, we don't even need to plan anything out"
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>>220308042
The fact that they had no overarching plan for the sequel trilogy is insane? Billions on the line but they couldn't spend five minutes writing out a basic plotline on a napkin or something?
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>>220308042
>What were they thinking?
Star Wars was always a vessel for middle-aged childfree cat moms to explore their childhood trauma, chud.
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>>220308408
>Directed by J. J. Abrams
>Written by Lawrence Kasdan J. J. Abrams Michael Arndt
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>>220307832
Because the old stuff yes all the old stuff, not just the prequels was made for children. I don't know who they intended the new stuff to appeal to but it sure as shit didn't appeal to the kids, that's for sure.
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>>220308479
I love how women coded this is
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>>220307832
Apparently disneyfied, deconstructed, subversive and feminist Star Wars isn't as attractive as the ot and prequels...
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>>220308541
It ticks every box.
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>>220307832
The art direction
The prequels were ass but the designs of the ships aliens and worlds were fucking awesome.
The sequels just rehash everything withe the only cool additions being BB-8 and that Salt World from The Last Jedi. Aside from that the visuals were just ass and no one wants to buy a toy of something that either already exists (but this time in black!) Or something that just looks ugly.
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>>220308582
When I saw the new stormtrooper helmet design and Rey's Popsicle jet bike I knew the sequels were cooked. No style whatsoever.
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Why were the sequels so sexless?
I get the "force is female" crowd didn't want objectification, but I've never known a single woman to take issue with Padme's outfits for instance. If it were made a bit later, or had some prescience, I think a Rhea Ripley esque actress playing a seductive femme fatale Darth Talon could have gotten over huge with men and women. I mean Harley Quinn in Suicide Squad was 2016 so during the same time as the Sequel trilogy. They cast Daisy Ridley who men blow their loads to just for her face, and just did nothing with her to use her sex appeal. Not even any tummy.
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>>220308737
if only the sequels could have been this sexy!

https://youtu.be/xRA7-jA5GJk

dipshit zoomer everyone was blown away by daisy’s beauty. main subject of conversation for normies after TFA came out…

there wasn’t one fucking person attracted to padme autism.
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>>220308506
How many of them are Jews?
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>>220308582
>The prequels were ass but the designs of the ships aliens and worlds were fucking awesome.
No, they weren't there were as many or more ugly and unaesthetic ships as there were cool ones, all of the aliens were stupid looking and shoved in your face too much and the world's were soulless cgi slop
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>>220308774
>everyone was blown away by daisy’s beauty
"no"
fuck off daisy, and take some acting classes
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>220308774
>trolling outside of /b/
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>>220308787
JJ is jewish
Kasdan is jewish
Arndt worked for Matthew Broderick, so maybe
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>>220308799
She tanked one of the biggest franchises in Hollywood, lol.
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someone post the "force is female" pic with busty qt in it
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>>220308948
uhhh where's the busty qt broh?
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>>220308813
For every shitty looking alien like Dexter Jetster you got like 10 cool looking ones like the Kaminoians, Tion Medon, or Sebulba.
Jar Jar may have been annoying as shit but he was a really well designed Alien. The clone troopers being a mix between Boba Fett and Storm Troopers was a retarded narrative choice but an amazing visual one.
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>>220308968
Kathleen is right there.
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>>220308995
fuck you. post the actual busty chick.
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>>220308978
none of the one's you mentioned look cool, the long necks were cool because of their voices not their visual aesthetic which was atrocious, you are brain broken defending prequel trash
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>>220309109
>No you can't admit that shitty movies have a few redeeming qualities!
I hate the prequels for their shit stories but they have good visual language retard.
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>>220307832
because it had soul
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>>220309196
Shot reverse shot
Shot reverse shot
Shot reverse shot
Shot reverse shot
Dumb ugly fight scene
Shot reverse shot

GOOD VISUAL LANGUAGE!!!!?????!!!!!????

You should throw yourself into a volcano
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>>220307373
As bad as the prequels were they at least made for an exciting spectacle. The sequels have no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
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>>220309302
>Art direction is the same as cinematography
Please be retarded somewhere else.
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>>220309320
The prequels were a political drama done extremely poorly, they made darth vader's origin story lame and boring
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Will Disney admit they fucked up with Star Wars and Marvel or they'll just keep blaming the coomsoomer?
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>>220309392
Has nothing to do with what I said, ChatGPT.
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>>220309355
>good visual language
fuck off, retard
stop making these trolling apologia threads for fuck's sake, get a fucking life and stop shitting up the board
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>>220309406
projection, take your own advice
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>>220308737
She was even a central figure of the Dall-E AI image craze for awhile. Daisy had it, but Disney squandered it.
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>>220307486

True.
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>>220309442
>Admit multiple times the prequels are bad movies
>Just say they have good designs and art direction
>Sperg goes apeshit thinking I'm trying to defend them
Fine anon if you want better cinematography the sequels are there for people like you.
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>>220307887
cool it with the anti-semitic remarks
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>>220307373
>Matthew Belloni
Oh fuck, Matthew Belloni?
Of literal fucking who fame?
It's literally over, Michael Eisner on suicide watch
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>>220308479
>Claudia GAY
LMFAO
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>>220307832
old stuff: Art made by an Author; not without flaw or bias but ultimately all the better for it. A passion and vision made realized.

new stuff: wide and shallow. M.O: "appeal to All, say Nothing."
Produced with every cheap manipulation to ensnare a new generation who have yet to develop their taste.
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>>220307832
Why do children enjoy toys built specifically for their enjoyment
Dunno anon, tough mystery.
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>>220308479
Depressing
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>>220310199
Everyone can see what you're doing by shitting on the sequels to make the prequels look less bad, but that doesn't change the fact both are complete shit
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>>220309302
>cinematography is how much the camera moves
retard.
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>>220307832
Because when Lucas made Star Wars for kids he made it fun, cool, sexy, and didn't treat kids like retards.
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>>220310612
Yeah they both suck
All I've ever said is that the prequels art direction and designs are what gave them any sort of staying power over the sequels which is an undeniable fact. Yeah the prequels suck but droids fighting clones of boba fett is still pretty fucking cool even if it's stupid especially in the context of the OT. I don't understand how hard it is to at least admit this one thing. You can recognize that the prequels are shit while also recognizing they were commercially viable despite how shit the plot was.
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>>220308479
Miserable cunt.
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>>220310777
These Andor crowd are alright. Shame about the rest preferring Yidseysloppa.
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>>220311358
Trandor is malicious yidsney slop for miserable retards that killed Star Wars in the first place - gen x and millennial faggots.
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>>220311414
That ak prop is so fucking cheap they couldnt glue something on the end of it to at least make it look star wars? Fuck!!!!
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>>220307832
OG trilogy was more mature and soulful. Even the characters are cool.
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>>220311874
I know they used WW2 weapons in the original the same way but modern weapon design just ruins it. In battlefront 2 they have the totally-not G36c and it just looks so out of place.
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>>220308042
>What were they thinking?
People who are hollowed out husks, barely sentient pseudo humans who have never really liked or appreciated anything beyond a surface level literally can't comprehend what it's like to be sentient and to like things. It's like trying to ask a blind man to understand color. They wanted to manipulate White men, and so they sought out things appreciated by White men and set out to alter them to become vessels for a certain political or social message. The idea that these people liked Star Wars because of certain attributes it had, and that changing those attributes but keeping the logo wouldn't be sufficient never even occurred to them because that's a wholly alien, foreign experience for them.
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They think "the old stuff" is the prequels and the Clone Wars, btw.
Kids love the prequels. It's crack cocaine, seeing all those niggas spinning around with laser swords, and sick ass commando squads and battle droids.
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>>220307832
it's actually a fun universe to imagine yourself living in
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>>220307373
Rogue One and Andor seem popular enough, same with the Mandalorian. Its really only the sequel trilogy everyone seems to hate. That and The Acolyte.
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>>220308042
It's a misconception that they put no thought into it.
They put a lot of thought into rebooting the brand, into the perfect melange of nostalgic imagery and new diverse heroes.
They missed the part where Star Wars traditionally appealed to nerdy kids, and nerdy kids care about stuff like storytelling, and whether your universe makes any sense.
You can't just wheel out the new "season" of Star Wars like it's some kind of fashion brand or sports team, and expect the nerdy kids to care.
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>>220311956
ROTJ is prequel tier writing elevated by being a part of the OT and the scenes with Luke, Vader and the Emperor retaining the good writing of the Empire Strikes Back.
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>>220309302
>Shot reverse shot
yes we all saw the plinkett reviews
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>>220312261
they put a lot of thought into launching with TFA but they had no roadmap for where to go after that
This has been straight-up admitted in several interviews and making-of material
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I was actually kind of positive about TFA originally, and I wanted to see where they were going with everything. It was retroactively made a much worse movie because the story it sets up never happens and is thrown away as a gag.
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>>220312330
Okay but the characters look cool aside from the Ewoks.
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>>220312373
Because they were too dense to understand their own audience.
They thought Star Wars was just memes and action figures, and they said "pfffft, we can do that!".
They missed the part where people only every engaged with the memes and action figures, because they were already emotionally and intellectually engaged in the material.

Corporate hubris and under-estimation of the tastes of the masses, basically.
The presumption that they could handle every brand as if it was Disney Princesses, or running a theme park.
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>>220307832
sincerity
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>>220311414
Cope seethe and dilate.
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>>220312567
These things aren't even true position for anonbots, it's just a meme they saw five years ago and mindlessly repeat forever.
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>>220308042
>They'll watch it anyway

That was unironically Kathleen Kennedy's words.
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>>220308434
They didn't even sketch out basic bulletpoints or anything
>first one: new jedi rookie appears
>second one: bad guy wins but rebels still hopeful
>third one: bad guy redeemed, empire defeated, new jedi restores balance
Just the most basic bare-bones concept of what the hell they even wanted to do. Youtubers making shit animations do more prepwork.
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>>220307832
because it wasn't made by women.
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>>220312544
lol. The entire Zoomer outlook on life boils down to not taking anything seriously. To be serious is to be 'cringe', to be in love is to be a 'simp', and to be ambitious is to be a 'try-hard'. In order to come across as cool, a zoomer must adopt a live-and-let-live attitude and remain blasé at all times. The only time anything can be taken seriously is when a black man is killed by a cop or loses a 'human right'.

Otherwise, nothing else matters.
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>>220312655
so why can't they make any money with these movies directed by people who don't give a shit?
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>>220312668
>so why can't they make any money with these movies
Because they're movies. They should have released it in fifteen second bursts via tiktok, set to AI generated electronica music or rap.
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>>220312567
those were modified to look spacey
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>>220312418
TFA is dragged down by its successors the same way ROTJ is pulled up by its predecessors. In a vacuum both films are average. They actually share many faults.
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>>220312690
you're a stupid nigger
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>>220312242
no one except for neeks watched andor and rogue one is a fake movie, collective cultural impact of a pebble dropped into the ocean. mandalorian was popular because of the baby yoda zeitgeist when no one was working during covid
kids don't give a damn about jyn erso or moff gideon
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>>220312709
I think I hate TFA the most, because it singlehandedly fucked up the entire universe.
>The empire are just back and seemingly bigger and more powerful than ever
>the new republic has no army
>ALL of the new generation of Jedi are dead
>there's just this guy called Snoke as the stand-in for Palpatine, and we don't know who he is, or where he came from
People understate how terrible all of that is. The original trilogy happened for nothing.
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>>220307373
Holy friggin based.
We've won!
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>>220308948
KK's smugness in this photo will never stop being hilarious
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>>220308535
New stuff was made to appeal to manchildren. No child wants to see their dad going onions for rey
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>>220312710
No, but the vast majority of zoomers are. The gayest, most trans, most diarrhea colored generation of Americans in recorded history. It's something the entire entertainment industry will have to account for going forward. The idea of an entire two hour movie without breaks for memes every ten minutes or a rap song just isn't going to fly for these people. They think it's a real achievement to "marathon" reading this reply, which they'll consider a novel for having more than one sentence. The old rules don't apply.
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>>220308554
>>220308738
kek what are these from?
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>>220307373
Umm, sorry chuds, this has been debunked!
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>>220312749
>The empire are just back and seemingly bigger and more powerful than ever
The empire still existed after ROTJ in fact they just lost a nig battle and still had control of most the galaxy
>the new republic has no army
Isn't Po literally a part of their military?
>ALL of the new generation of Jedi are dead
Isn't that the point of Kylo Ren?
>there's just this guy called Snoke as the stand-in for Palpatine, and we don't know who he is, or where he came from
Could have been any member of the Imperial political elite.
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>>220312827
It is wild how you can literally feel some of these people getting mad at you for trying to have a conversation with them, since they're accustomed to basically emojis and one word answers to everything.
You say "yeah, but explain your stance though", and you can literally feel the seethe. They want to kill you for getting in the way of their dopamine hit.
There was a point at which all of this should have been stopped in it's tracks, and we have zoomed past it.
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>>220312861
Reddit is actually responsible for a lot of it. All these companies want to do data based decision making, and they want to utilize social media to try and gauge what the audience wants given that is the whole purpose. They hire firms like Meltwater to aggregate reddit and discover what people like, don't like, want to see in the future and so on. This is advertised to the company as being a sample of the general audience, but in reality it's a highly selected for corner case that is dominated by severely over-represented trannies and tranny adjacent people. The conversations are portrayed as being natural or organic, but they're botted to hell and under severe selection pressure from tranny moderators who have cultivated a certain window of acceptable/unacceptable opinions for years. This impacts almost every aspect of entertainment today, not just Star Wars.
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>>220312897
If the empire still exists at all, it needs to be visibly diminished. You can't literally give them a Death Star the size of a planet. That's awful writing.
>isn't Poe part of the military
No. He's in "the Resistance", which is literally just a rebellion against the First Order, because there was no actual Republic military to call on.
>isn't that the point of Kylo Ren
That he killed them all? Yeah. It sucks.
>Could have been any member of the Imperial political elite.
So give me an actual character. Not just Temu Palpatine. Call him Grand Admiral Hitler, and put him in a scary military uniform. At least then there's a sense that we're moving the universe into new territory
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>>220313025
>He's in "the Resistance", which is literally just a rebellion against the First Order, because there was no actual Republic military to call on.
He's working for Leia who is a diplomat for the New Republic. The resistance is still a republic military force
>That he killed them all? Yeah. It sucks.
He had the Knights of Ren, TFA shows this. Might as well complain about order 66.
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>>220312749
>People understate how terrible all of that is. The original trilogy happened for nothing.
it sort of works both ways though. if the original trilogy was the ending of that story, then the big bad guy dies and now everyone is happy. if the original trilogy is not the ending, the big bad bad guy dying doesn't immediately solve everyone's problem. so, it's believable to me that the empire would just come back because they would be too big to fail.
>there's just this guy called Snoke as the stand-in for Palpatine, and we don't know who he is, or where he came from
that's the biggest problem with the sequel trilogy, not just the force awakens. though, maybe it's the symptom of the overall issue where there wasn't a single coherent story to be told, just a loose collection of fragments they are trying to reconcile. you'd have thought they'd give snoke a character in the next movies but instead he just died.
i used to blame rian johnson for leaving a big pile of shit the final movie had to clean up somehow, but it's the overall creative process at fault. someone should have vetoed the last jedi and told rian johnson to actually make a movie, not some self indulgent tripe
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>>220307832
The secret is kids entertainment but written as if meant for adults.
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>>220313138
I want to see the universe move forward, and I want Luke and his friends to have actually achieved something.
>oh yeah, I re-established the Jedi, and then some shit head killed literally all of them, lol. also we barely scratched the empire, lol
This is entirely unsatisfying.
Why couldn't we have had a trilogy about a new, young Jedi order, and the challenges that they would have faced?
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>>220312705
MG034 and Lewis are practically identical.
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It was never "for kids", that was something George started saying as a coping mechanism when everyone hated Jar Jar, and was picked up on here around 2016 as a way to shit post because it unsubtly insults Star Wars fans. "Haha, oh yeah, well you like...A KIDS MOVIE!" says a guy that literally watches anime. Luke getting tortured and writhing and screaming, a hand getting lopped off, the original cantina murder scene, Leia nearly nude and getting licked by a horny italian slug, these long and slow dialogue sequences of Yoda saying "only what you take with you" and so on aren't features of kids movies. They were for all ages, which is a different category entirely and something that gets lost amidst all the shitposting and fagging around here. They were something Dad and son could both watch and enjoy. That was lost in TPM and regained by the time of ROTS. In the sequels they went a step further and made something that nobody could enjoy, but certain adults who got marching orders on reddit that it was their political duty to pretend to like in order to own the chuds.
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>>220307373
>the kids are alright
fuck this boomer phrase. kill yourself.
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>>220313348
>It was never "for kids"
To be fair for kids is just lame excuse for shitty writting.
Avatar also was for kids, yet from writting perspective it's completely mogged the rest of western and most of the eastern animated shows, including TCW, from writting, narrative building, character's development.
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>>220313399
Tbf james knows how its done.
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>>220313399
>writting
Total turd world death.
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>>220313285
So then just say any sequel trilogy is flawed because sorry their achievements have to fail at some point for conflict to exist.
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>>220312897
>Isn't that the point of Kylo Ren?
A good question. Because for the whole sequel trilogy, we still have no idea, what caused his downfall. All what we know is his tantrum scene in TFA, his romance, which is forced and rushed as John-Dany in GoT and his Vader fetish.
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>>220313424
>james
I was talking about The Last Airbender.
James avatar writting sucks, may be not as bad, as ST, but still sucks.
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>>220313348
the "star wars is for kids and therefore doesnt have to make sense" argument is exclusively made by sequel defenders that cant defend them on its own merits but has to make up bullshit and defame the original trilogy or the prequels prop up marey sue
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>>220308813
>the world's were soulless cgi slop
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>>220313610
>made by sequel defenders
Actually it's been main slogan of TCW-fans before Disney bought Star Wars
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>>220313610
It's not, it's just shit posters who want to come into threads and shit post about anyone liking anything instead of being heckin based all day. That's all it ever was or will be.
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>>220307500
not until they learn
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>>220308738
Take that younglings!
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>>220312587
Yes, the issue isn't a lack of an outline, the issue is a lack of talent
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>>220308479
LOL at that last sentence! See they made it retarded on purpose!
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>>220312847
mods for jedi academy (great game btw)
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>>220313432
How are you so unimaginative you can't conceive of a conflict that isn't a complete mirror image of the original trilogy?
I think the idea that the New Republic and the new Jedi order are basically frontiersmen who are building a new society, but are constantly under threat from remnants of the Empire, and assorted criminal elements, is a perfectly good place to start.
I think the story of how exactly Luke would go about rebuilding the Jedi is more interesting than casting them aside for a complete reset. Because what is a properly operating Jedi order supposed to look like? We don't really know. We only saw them in their diminished state in the prequels. How does a secretive order of knights go about keeping the peace on a galactic scale?
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>>220314353
>I think the story of how exactly Luke would go about rebuilding the Jedi is more interesting
It was, the first time they told it. But they didn't want to pay authors, and the originals were too old.
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>>220314353
>Because what is a properly operating Jedi order supposed to look like? We don't really know
yes we do, that's what Lucas showed in the prequels, which was set during the prime of the Jedi. Luke was going to restore the Jedi Order to what it was, not turn it into something else like they did in the eu and disney wars
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>>220308479
This is seriously the only time I've ever seen Laura Dern play an unlikeable character as she's otherwise my favorite living actress.
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The sequels being one big fuck you to gen Xers after they gloated about how disney was going to retcon the prequels will never stop being funny to me
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>>220314586
at best, we see the prime of the Jedi in episode 1 (and that's debatable). The Clone Wars were a colossal fuck-up.
Qui Gon is like the only real ass Jedi who isn't a fraud.
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>>220312185
shitty bait
fuck off, nigger
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>>220312261
star wars the original trilogy appealed to everyone, that's how it became popular
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>>220307373
>we emulsified a popular series into lazily written focus-tested sludge that insults its audience's intelligence, and now nobody likes it, how could this happen?
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>>220307832
Because the new stuff is nothing but a commercial for the old stuff.
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>>220313643
yes the sets were soulless cgi slop because that's how they filmed the movie with the actors always in front of a green screen, the fact they built minatures for soulless wide shots doesn't change that fact, nigger
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>>220308042
I think from their perspective, putting effort into making good films and series would have been a waste of resources due to how big the franchise was. If somebody had a good script, they'd see using it as throwing money away because a Star Wars movie is going to make money anyway. I think that they recycle ideas that had been thrown away for Star Wars because of this. Rise of Skywalker seems like a reel of deleted scenes from other movies reworked so that they're Star Wars.
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>>220314638
The sequels are literally Barry Lyndon ...
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>>220308204
I think it's actually because it wasn't made for them. When I was a kid, I hated everything that was made for kids, and if something that I liked started to pander to kids, I stopped liking it. All my friends seemed to feel the same way. New Star Wars panders to people too, but it panders to the type of millennials who ruined therapy as a practice by all getting therapists when they didn't need them, so that if you actually need a therapist now, they're useless because they're only used to chatting with millennials about nothing.
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>>220315006
Science fiction and fantasy just inherently appeal to the slightly more literate kids.
They may have mass appeal up to a point, but if you lose the backbone of the fanbase (which is the nerds), you lose the thrust of the whole thing.
The lower IQ kids are just as happy watching professional wrestling and Fast and Furious movies. More happy, in fact. It corresponds with what they can understand, with their more limited imaginations.
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>Anything that came out after I was born isn’t that great
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>>220308479
Why does the music always get ominous when she's on screen when she's a protagonist?
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>>220314685
>Qui Gon is like the only real ass Jedi who isn't a fraud.
>master, should we use our powers of ESP to figure out what's going on here?
>no apprentice, that would be hard to write and we got three movies to get through
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>>220308408
The crazy thing is that this is all about brown people being insecure about the fact that they're less attractive. That's what all this comes down to. It's not even power or IQ, it's that they feel uglier, and they have to fuck up absolutely everything as a way to cope. Of course IQ and power matter to them too, but to a lesser extent, and, despite what they act, power is the thing that they care about the least. I don't have power, but I'm not experiencing a constant existential crisis over it. Their race is like an eternal rock in their shoe that they can never get out.
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It's a testament to how good the original trilogy is when 45 years later, cultural marxists are making it their life's mission to make sure anything star wars related is always subverted and made as demoralizing as possible, look how they're screeching in this thread
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>>220308479
Who's that ugly lunch lady on the right?
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>>220307832
My theory is that attempting to turn IP into content farms has been a abject failure. the studios want you to get hyped for every new release they ever make, but people just do not have the energy, the attention span, or the money for that. It's a nonstop deluge of low effort and low quality slop. And there is no value in getting attached to anything new, because there are 10 more projects coming out after that. I think I saw someone adding up how long it would take to watch every piece of MCU content they ever made, and the movies alone are nearly a hundred hours. If you include the streaming series, it's closer to a thousand fucking hours. It's just an endless fucking slog, and it's demoralizing.

It's much easier to just draw a cut off line, and not pay attention to anything after that. It's basically the only way you can watch modern media
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>>220308737
It's funny how the far left and the far right both agree that sexiness is bad.
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>>220315448
>but people just do not have the energy, the attention span, or the money for that
They used to. It's less about volume and more about volume plus quality. If you release a bunch of Star Wars movies that suck ass, people stop caring. But people cared about Star Wars for a really long time, even through some stinker EU releases, because there was enough good content being made. For every Crystal Star there was a Thrawn trilogy or KotOR. Now it's all Crystal Star.
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>>220307373
A decade ago the shills kept telling us that the younger generation that grew up on the sequel trilogy would be nostalgic about it, that this would be "their" Star Wars, just like zoomers like the prequels. Well, I don't know what's wrong with zoomers, but it's nice to see no one really gives a shit about the sequels like we told them they wouldn't.
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>>220315371
in the sense that he's a resourceful problem solver and he's compassionate and tries to make things better. He's not a jumped up cop, which is basically what the rest of the Jedis in the prequels are.
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>>220315448
They have to pay bills every day, meanwhile artistic relevance goes where it wants. I understand it from the studio point of view. It's just hard to accept that we grew up in a time where movies were peak mass communication and peak pop art.
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>>220308774
Why are you so mad that you're telling flat out lies that nobody believes? Even you don't sound like you expect anyone to believe you. You're just flat out seething. It's really weird.
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>>220308820
There was nothing wrong with Daisy. I don't know why people act like she wrote and directed the fucking trilogy. I guess people are just really stupid.
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>>220315269
star wars the original trilogy was universally loved by all ages, races and genders, trying to peg it as nerd shit is to rewrite history or you're just trying to disparage it by lying about it's cultural impact
No one was thinking this was dorky or nerdy when they went back to the theater for the tenth time
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>>220315558
The sequences of events is that the prequels were universally hated and shit on, some post-ironic meme fags began pretending to like them as a look-at-me-me-so-whacky thing, then zoomers were first allowed online and saw it and thought it was authentic and adopted it as their sincere culture. And you can find this same story all over. There was no pretend-sequel fan meme for newly online gen alphas to see and take seriously.
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>>220308978
Why the fuck was Sebulba a midget though? He would have been the coolest looking alien otherwise. I have no fucking idea why they made him two feet fall. It's fucking retarded.
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>>220315621
you're not getting what I'm saying. Normies will see trendy movies, sure, but they're not the backbone of the fanbase. So, as soon as Star Wars isn't trendy anymore, they stop showing up.
Who decides whether it's trendy? The core fanbase of nerdier kids. Their passion for the thing they're into will bleed out, and drum up a certain degree of hype.
In the modern world, memes are basically your currency, and what creates a meme? Passion. Why does everyone know "it's a trap!"? Because there's passion there. People continue to give a shit about the original movies.
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>>220308948
I've noticed that it's extremely common for things to advertise to groups outside of their demographic, fail to lure in the one their target demographic, and lose the one they already had. Apparently it's considered a great strategy, because everyone fucks themselves over by doing it.
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>>220307373
How did fuck so bad
At least prequel fags defended (mostly kids)
How did you manage to make kids hate, they love anything
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>>220308995
Ohohohoho eeheeheeheehee aahaahaahaa, you funny, anon. Kill yourself.
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>>220315504
Nigga, it's 100% a volume problem. Back in the day, a movie used to just be one movie. That's it. If it was a good movie, it got a sequel. If it was the best movie that came out and made fuck tons of money, you get a trilogy. There was no firehose of disney slop being crammed down your throat. You could argue that the MCU was an exception, but no, it fucking wasn't. Even that could just be sectioned off into the Ironman trilogy, or the Captain America trilogy, or etc. And the big team up movie was something special and earned. These days, it's all just the same bland CGI MCUslop
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>>220308582
Yeah, remember that half of Star Wars VIII was on a shitty space casino that no one remember.
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>>220315630
I always liked them, and just stopped pretending.
I don't see why I should have to, when the ST showed us just how genuinely bad a non-George Lucas SW could be. Hating the prequels is quaint at this point. They went from being the worst trilogy out of two, to the second best trilogy out of three, and in the absolute top quarter of officially produced Star Wars movies and shows.
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Get fucking dunked on Yidsney. You have FAILED. Literally ONE job as steward of Star Wars: hook the next generation. You had 6 motherfucking movies to mindlessly retread the same exact shit over and over. But you fucked it up. You gave Star Wars to a bunch of fucking hacks who have no idea how to write a fucking plot. Jew Jew Abrams only knows mystery box plots and Rian Johnson is so far up his own ass he eats every meal twice. These fucking clowns shouldn't have been allowed in the same zip code as the team writing a Star Wars movie.
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>>220310777
Zoomer pride worldwide
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>>220315787
It's not a volume problem. It's a quality problem. You're the sort of mutant subhuman who opens posts with "nigga" and says slop, a capital N NIGGER in other words, so you likely weren't alive and around for the time period I'm describing, but there was a time where Star Wars fans were flooded with Star Wars content and it presented zero problem. It only because a problem when that content became dominated by dogshit.
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>>220307378
>https://geeksandgamers.com/remove-star-wars-sequel-trilogy/
Oh good, so now we're getting multiverse branching timelines shit just like MCU. This will totally make everything better lol. Fucking retarded.
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>>220315826
The Clone Wars cartoon is genuine kid slop though. If that's your favourite SW, you're mentally a child. It's a bunch of plastic action figures swinging at each other, with legitimately juvenile writing.
The prequel movies, sure. They're avant garde and interesting. The show is for babs.
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>>220315709
star wars the original trilogy was never trendy, it was a staple of a cultural zeitgeist that stayed at the forefront of people's minds, that was replayed on cable tv almost every weekend for decades even when it's creator damaged the brand with the prequels, everyone on this planet is a fan of star wars the original trilogy, it's one of the greatest forms of media ever produced by humanity
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>>220315869
He's right about it being a volume problem, but the quality has also suffered as a result.
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>>220312079
YES.
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>>220315935
In the 70's and 80's, maybe.
At one point, a lot of people were casual fans of the original Star Trek, or Flash Gordon serials.
Once that buzz of it being something new with crazy special effects and a marketing budget is gone, yeah, the backbone of the fanbase is nerds. People who like collecting, people who like wearing costumes, people who will actually follow a storyline and understand it on a higher than superficial level.
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>>220315869
>It only because a problem when that content became dominated by dogshit.
picrel, and also you seem upset
https://youtu.be/WUz-G-ejByI?t=16
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>>220315504
>They used to
No, they didn't. Star Wars had a HUGE fan following when it was just 3 movies. That's it. No tie-in TV shows or animated series, and early Star Wars video games were just simple arcade games, they weren't narratives in their own right. The only additional media a Star Wars fan back in the 80s would have is a few books, not all of which would appeal to him, because they cast a really wide net with tie-in novels, from young adult series to novelizations of the films to side stories focused on different characters. And the bulk of these wouldn't come out until after the prequel series, actually. The collection from 1977 - 1999 wouldn't keep even the most avid Star Wars fan engaged for more than a few months, and that's assuming he read absolutely everything, even the books for little kids.

Compare that to the absolute deluge of content we have in the Disney era. The '10s alone has I think over 100 tie-in titles across various media. It's fucking ridiculous. Yes, a lot of it is aimed at different demographics, but still, no human being could devote that much of their life to Star Wars to consume it all, it's not possible.
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>>220316049
if it was just nerds it wouldn't need to be subverted and cultural marxists wouldn't be spazzing out making it their life's mission to sacrifice it at the altar of diversity equity and inclusion, there's no more nerds only normies, the "nerds" as you call them watch nigger ball in all it's forms
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>>220315913
It's weird because the Clone Wars series that gen Z and A don't shit themselves over is way more mature than the shitty looking CGI one. It feels like footage of an actual war. The juvenile and immature writing on the other series called Clone Wars that they like is real problem with it, but the animation is also really bad. It appeals to the same type of extremely vocal retard who thinks that Revenge of the Sith is the best Star Wars movie. It has all same aesthetic problems, like the battle droids being comedic slapstick characters and not scary at all.
>They were funny in the Phantom Menace
Just barely, and it only worked because they were also intimidating when they weren't being cut down by lightsabers. When they're saying "ouch" and waving their fingers in pain when they get hurt, it's fucking retarded. I swear to God, the sound of Jar Jar getting electrocuted when he stuck is head between the pod racer engines in the Phantom Menace was re-cycled for the sound of a battle droid getting demolished in Revenge of the Sith. It makes me so autistically mad.
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>>220316192
Man, every nerd hobby has been subverted at this point. It was easy pickings. Nerds, if anything have sympathies with Marxists (because they promise to take their side against bullies), and then the Marxists turn around and call them chuds, after they have ruined everything.
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>>220312330
It's still great though. How 'bout that?
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>>220312418
>I was actually kind of positive about TFA originally, and I wanted to see where they were going with everything.
I think most people felt the same way. It's funny, because the second time I watched it in the theater, I instantly knew it was bad, but I thought it would be saved by the second two. It was just a two hour waste of time designed to get you interested in the rest of the trilogy, while also advertising the original trilogy. All the scenes with Han Solo and the Millennium Falcon (which I honestly never really shit myself over to begin with) were just being like, "Hey, remember this? We own it now."
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>>220315913
Keep seething, shitlennials. Lucas won.
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>>220312655
It's basically crippling shyness.
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>>220316264
the chuds are the trannies, the trannies are the chuds, they're the same thing and live in russia and work from the kremlin with all the other jews
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>>220316384
Lucas barely did anything on the animated shows.
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>>220316433
You are an ignorant retard.
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>>220316475
No way he stuck around for like eight seasons of that shit.
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>>220316384
I never said anything bad about George Lucas, idiot. He didn't make Clone Wars. I never even said that Revenge of the Sith was bad. You sound exactly like the kind of retard who shits themselves over Clone Wars and Revenge. That's the only Star Wars you actually care about and act like anyone is against George Lucas if they don't like the two worst things that were made when he was in control of Star Wars. You like them because they have the dumbest writing and appeal to your dumb giga chad brain.
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>>220316509
>No way he stuck around for like eight seasons of that shit.
Yeah, he did. Here's George laying out the story for Season 8 Padme arc, production codes 7.17-7.20. The more you know!

>>220316535
>He didn't make Clone Wars
Yeah, he did.
>You sound exactly like the kind of retard who shits themselves over Clone Wars and Revenge.
Revenge of the Sith is his magnum opus and the best Star Wars ever made and that can ever be made, though. Nothing will ever surpass it. You sound extremely low IQ and retarded. Educate yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibkmh72_1pw
Clone Wars is also very good. It is what Lucas wanted Star Wars to be and what he was inspired by - matinee serials. It gave him the canvas and freedom to be even more experimental. Seethe, retard.
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>soulless EA understands Star Wars better than Disney
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>>220316728
tbf, EA don't make games. They publish them.
They also mishandled the SW brand pretty hard, with the exception of these games.
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>>220316728
This is Disney, retard. They work in tandem with the story group and have to get approval on everything from them. Also, Survivor was kinda shit.
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>>220316728
The 3rd game is going to be kino when they let Cal use things like Force Choke and Force Lightning. They will go all out
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>>220316700
You post that clip all the time and it in no way supports what you're saying. I know you're the same gigachad retard who unleashes your rage every time someone says anything bad about Revenge of the Sith. I'm not having this conversation with you again. Go watch some Bollywood slop that you think is the most epic and based shit you've ever seen to make yourself feel like a big boy, dummy.
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>>220308799
"I'd shoot Kathleen Kennedy twice."
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>>220307500
Go to another thread, then.
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>this was considered worthy of smug scorn by RedLetterMedia

actual assholes tbqh. there's 'the Sonic fandom', then there's talented Sonic fans making cool, high-effort shit.

modern Star Wars is bad, but i hope we get a new generation of young creators like this.
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>>220316793
>3rd game
oh boy cant wait to watch the force witch do everything instead of the mc for the millionth time
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I'm getting scared, feels like Kristalnacht is coming any day now.
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>>220317798
and then in Disney land:
>yeah sure we'll just film here, why not? no need to dress anything to look Star-Wars-y, NOBODY knows this place!

i actually have a theory that Rogue One and Andor did this on purpose to prove a point. they run around Canary Wharf Tube Station and the Barbican, anyone who has ever been to London will recognise them. but they actually bother to DRESS THE SETS and then you do believe it's Coruscant! wew.
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>>220312242
>TPM after ANH
ESB second best tards BTFO



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