Is that Toby McGuire in the background?

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>>220309230
Jesus according to Israeli researchers.

>>220309230
Looks fine to me

>>220309230
>ESEEEE

>>220309230
Jesus according to everyone who isn't a faggot.

>>220309230
Lol.
Just get literally any carpenter you dumb Mick. Haha.

>>220309230
I've read the Bible and Christ is a golden-maned sapphire-eyed Aryan demigod who fights the jew goblins

So Christcucks riddle me this

1. Why did god even need a human "son" on earth, if he is all powerful couldn't he just create like an image mimicking a human? Why the whole literal birth of a human, would we freak out too much if god just went to earth?

2. Did Jesus fail or did he succeed? He didn't tople the king, he didn't save humanity. He kinda died like a bitch? Miracle man that didn't really manage to accomplish much. Like, what the fuck was god thinking?

I get the idea of worshipping an almighty god in the sky, but why include jesus? Why do we need side characters in religion

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>Jesus if Mel weren't a fag

>>220309427
No one's reading this wall of text, gaytheist

>>220309427
all you gotta do is read

>>220309230
i look like that but with potato nose

>>220309427
ain't reading allat

>>220309427
>Why the whole literal birth of a human, would we freak out too much if god just went to earth?
Because God wanted to share in the human lineage, he wanted to be born our DNA so that he could redeem human nature with the resurrection.

>>220309427
>Did Jesus fail or did he succeed? He didn't tople the king, he didn't save humanity.
He did because with The Son's triumph over death he did so with his human nature, thus elevating human nature above even angels (this is one of the reasons Lucifer rebelled against God, he saw it as an abomination) and now the path to eternal life is open to mankind. So yes, we have been saved from death.

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>>220309230
Jesus according to Asians.

>>220309455
>>220309498
>Will read the entire bible
>But not this

The Son would've incarnated even if humanity didn't fall.

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>>220309509
>now the path to eternal life is open to mankind. So yes, we have been saved from death.
uh what? niggas still dying out here

>>220309509
>so that he could redeem human nature
Sounds like a design flaw? Did god fuck up?

>The Son's triumph over death
So nobody pre jesus could go to heaven or what? Did Jesus unlock the heaven DLC?

>>220309230
physically accurate Jesus

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>borgia jesus

christians really worship the portrait of a degenerate family lol

i admire and follow the virtues and moral values of christianity (or at least try to), but i dont believe a man was walking around turning water into wine

what does that make me

>>220309518
What if Jesus is like a reflection and looks however we want him to look? Maybe not while he was on Earth but certainly possible after he's risen. All the hippies and commies can see black Jesus and all the actual Christians can see white Jesus.

>>220309301
How homosexual do you need to be to come up with made up people and accounts of Jesus’ looks to maintain that surfer hippie image of him? Pilate nor Gamaliel never described Jesus in any primary sources. Letullus straight up didnt exist. Right hand side is just gay fanfiction lol. Dude was a jew and looked like one.

the only reason Christianity is taken seriously is because jesus is depicted as white. otherwise it's just another poorfag desert person cult

>>220309427
1. A part of him had to become human, live as a human and die as a human so God could understand humanity and be more sympathetic to our tendency to sin

2. He suceeded. He didn't come to save humans from humans, he came to have a closer understanding of humans and adjust his judgement accordingly.

>>220309730
what values?

>give all your money to peter and become my spirit slave or I'll torture you in magic lava - rabbi yeshua ben yosef

it's an slave abuse authority jew cult lol

>>220309858
>omnipotent god
>ignorant and doesn't understand his own creation
lol theists actually believe these contradicting fairytales

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>>220309427
Don't expect any of the "christian" LARPers of 4chan to have any sort of theological/dogmatic knowledge beyond memes and vibe...
From my distant sunday school memory:
1. Mankind committed the original sin on their own free will, and it seems God had to make a human sacrifice of himself to save mankind from the original sin. I don't think it's supposed to be logical from our perspective.
>couldn't he just create like an image mimicking a human
Some variants of Christianism believe that he was fully god and not part human but I don't think that's a serious line of thinking, especially considering:.
2. The prophecy regarding the messiah was that he was going to be from a line of kings and the sacrificial lamb or something similar. Maybe it's after-the-fact cope but the idea of sacrifice is important. See above.
>Why do we need side characters in religion
This is how muslims and jews feel about it.

>>220309730
jewish

>>220309862
you know don't kill your neighbor, don't steal, turn the other cheek etc. not necessarily exclusive to christianity but i think its a good solid foundation to buid a society on, and as im writing this post i realize there were functioning societies that didn't murder and rape each other before and without christanity

>>220309869
>parents always understand their children because they made them
God created the angels, and then one of them rebelled and fell. He created Eden and Adam and Eve and expected them to just sit there and not eat the fruit of knowledge. The precedent for him not fully understanding his creation is established.

>>220309899
That's not true, the world was a barbaric place like India is today, before the light of Christ was revealed to the world

>>220309910
I guess it's not real free-will if he can predict it? Or rather he does predict it but respects the free-will of his creation so he doesn't prevent it. It's a bit of a can of worms.

>>220309230
Haysoos was white. Cope it, live it, respect it, and deal with it. #iotbw

>>220309730
Techinically it makes you an atheist, but you could easily go for the high IQ option which is to be agnostic (i.e. what you know is that you know nothing)

>>220309915
i'm not a historian but didnt the roman empire exist before christ? i know they had slaves and shit, but it was a pretty well functioning democracy? isnt most of our current judisicary system borrowed from them too

>>220309956
>i'm not a historian but didnt the roman empire exist before christ?
No you kike

>>220309862
>>220309897
Oh no, he was called a jew by brown amoral troglodites, I hope he can recover

>>220309730
A fag

>>220309895
I would *geniunely* love to talk to someone who knows their bible and theology. I have so many questions. And not even in a fedora style debate.
Can I contact a local priest or something?

>>220309965
>Roman Empire
>27 BC – AD 395

uhhhh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Empire

>>220310020
kike history

>>220309915
christian fantasy

christianity spread by threats of death and torture. you literally kill everybody practicing a different faith (except jews and judaism)

>>220310034
Now do Islam. You won't

>>220310034
Now do Islam. You won't

>>220310001
You need to find a non-bullshit branch and pastor because today it's full of scammers and liberals and weirdos. I would try to look into the International Lutheran Council.

>>220309999
digits wasted on a nigger

what the fuck even is the difference between judaism, christianity, cathlocism and protestantism

wasn't jesus just one dude, how did he spawn so many different branches of religion, like god damn

>>220309230
he looks like a good chap

>>220309427
The atonement was to take on humanities sins so that repentance (changing yourself to sin no more) was possible. Hope this helps.
Can you shills also find a new tactic for engagement in your advertising threads?

>>220310083
Judaism predates Christianity significantly, and there's plenty of differences lil bro.

>>220310060
I'm not religious myself, but I do envy religious people (I think about myself as an "envious atheist") becuase religious people just seem more content and less anxious about life and death in general and who wouldn't want that

>>220310083
>how did he spawn so many different branches of religion, like god damn
The power of having a mutilated penis

>>220309430
Lol GIGAJESUS

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>>220310083
Jews are still waiting for the messiah.
Christians believe Jesus was the messiah.
Catholics believe the Pope and the church are sacred and they pray to saints and Mary.
Orthodox are remnant of the eastern roman empire and have their own pope.
Protestants are from the 1500s, came around the time catholics were offering entry to heaven in exchange for money donations, luther and others decided catholics were full of shit and corrupt and went back to a "purer" form of christianity without a pope, ended up in a lot of wars.
You also have anglicans who are the same as protestants although it was one king who said fuck the pope because he wanted another divorce.

>>220310118
what if he had kept the wisdom that comes with dick cheese

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>>220309301
This israeli meme photo is ridiculous. The native people of the levant have never looked like that.

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>>220309230
He looks forgiving.

>>220310042
all abrahamic cults are cancer. now what jew worshiper?

>>220309430
>turns water into PBR
>turns one loaf and one fish into enough Filet-O-Fishes to feed the multitude

>>220310116
From my experience, it comes with a lot of added neuroticism, I don't think the grass is necessarily greener.

>>220310151
>that random bouddhist region in the Caucasus

Christianity is officially cringe

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>>220309910
the bible claims god is all-knowing

which means your bible is bullshit lol

also "no good tree bears bad fruit"

it's a jew psyop to make rome (and every gentile) commit suicide and enslave themselves

>>220310168
He also looks like he'd fuck your underage daughter tbqh

>>220310151
So do new religions "start" when someone interpets things different and more join them? "The sacred texts means X!" "No the sacred texts means Y!" and then it's split off?

>>220310205
That's got some weight to it, now that known "cool kids hangout" 4chan has decreed so

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>>220309899
every civilization has created that kind of morality

except christianity tells you to worship jews lol

not to mention their end prophecy "gods plan" involves jews enslaving the world and building the third temple. it's a psyop.

>>220310218
Yes. There are a lot of different branches of protestants.

>>220310151
>he wanted another divorce.
he wanted his first divorce, the others were a bonus. and its a weird mix of Protestantism but with gaudy decorations like Catholicism

>>220310114
Nah, judaism came after christianity. It came about after the destruction of the 2nd temple and the creation of the talmud a few centuries later. It's a complete misconception that judaism is just christianity without the new testament.

>>220310237
>every civilization has created that kind of morality
NTA but I wish this was true

look out everyone! he's posting /pol/ infographs and posting weak gotchas!

>>220310205
Why, because a bunch of larping dorks are the loudest voices of the religion?

>>220309796
>Dude was a jew and looked like one.
So in other words, nothing like the image on the left?

>>220310114
>lil bro.
Don't do this please

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>>220310241
Only one branch is based though.

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>>220310278
No, the rank-and-file Christians are brainwashed lunatics too

>>220310237
>every civilization has created that kind of morality
Most historically informed atheist

>>220310258
It's a mix. Jesus was arguing against proto-Jews. That's like half of what he was doing.
"Judaism" is the teachings of the rabbis. During Jesus' time, they were already following the rabbis instead of Moses, and that's what Jesus kept trying to get them to stop doing.

>>220310237
uh huh, christianity is totally a jewish psyop. That must be why their holy book has schizo rabbis seething and writing about how jesus is boiling in a vat of feces in hell, why maimonides curses the name of christ whenever he brings it up, and why to this day, jews refuse to use X/+ symbols out of mere association with the crucifixion, and also no longer use Yeshua as a given name despite it previously being a very common one.

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>>220309230
Mikko phenotype

>>220310293
So who the fuck started judiasm?

Also why does it seem there's like a split between "modern" religions and "ancient" religions that people think are ridiculous nowadays?

Ancient shamanism -> Worshipping the sun -> Greek Mythology / Norse Mythlogy

and then it splits into "modern" religions?

>>220309301
You just know they made him look dumbfounded like that on purpose because if they gave him a confident or even calm expression then nobody would've really cared about the image and way fewer people would've shared it. Doesn't even make sense how they came up with it though. If you wanted to create a model of what a particular person looks like then just generating the most average features of a time and place is an awful way of actually figuring out what they looked like.

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>>220309796
>Dude was a jew and looked like one.
he looked like this? I don't buy it

>>220310317
That cartoon is what I'm talking about tho. They're just larpers who could hardly care less about Christ's actual teachings.

>>220310293
too bad modern protestants are all a bunch of the biggest shabbos goy philosemites, worshiping the state and israel while gathered in their strip mall "churches" to sip grape juice and listen to Pastor Jim Bob tell them about how jews are their betters.

>>220310349
Judaism is entirely Cyrus the Great's fault. Without him there is no Judaism and its offsprings; Christianity and Islam.

>>220310377
I meant lutherans, not the american evangelicals.

>>220310375
They're not "larpers," they're brainwashed
A larper knows that what he's saying is bullshit, these people actually believe this shit

>>220310349
Paganism made a comeback with babyboomers and it's still present today.

>>220310317
Nobody says Trump is like Christ. I think Christians hope he will be a King David like leader. A biblical example of an ambitious and violent man who was yet Godly.

>>220310396
>A larper knows that what he's saying is bullshit
I mean in the 4chan sense of the word, but yeah, most of them are legitimately brainwashed.

>>220310441
>Nobody says Trump is like Christ.
The brainwashed retards who voted for him absolutely think and say that

>>220310393
Posting vague historical factoids isn't actually helpful to anyone genuinely asking questions
Anyways you might be right or wrong, there's no way of knowing, but moreover it's completely irrelevant. Cyrus sacked Babylon and let the Jews go, it happened, there's no point in wondering what if it didn't.

>>220309230
It's going to be kino
>source: every other film he's directed

>>220310441
>Nobody says Trump is like Christ
Lol

>>220310459
I voted for him and don't think that, and neither does anyone else.
You are in a complete delusion bubble.
Generally, when someone refutes your assertion, don't just repeat yourself in slightly different wording. That's a useless thing to do. Makes you look like a seething nut.

>>220310493
>I voted for him and don't think that
Obviously a brainwashed retard doesn't know that he's a brainwashed retard, that's the point

>>220310493
Here's just one notable example:

https://medium.com/backyard-theology/white-house-spiritual-adviser-compares-donald-trump-to-jesus-efc0ced551b9

You see this kind of shit all over conservative social media, so you're either out of touch or being incredibly dishonest.

>>220310507
You are saying I actually secretly think Trump is like Jesus?
You are a person beyond reason.

>>220309301
God make his own son look like a chimp caveman as a joke

>>220309730
that's literally everyone in the modern west. everyone follows christian ethics and nobody believes in christian metaphysics. anyone who says otherwise is a larper.

>>220310532
>You are saying I actually secretly think Trump is like Jesus?
I'm saying that you got brainwashed into voting for a con-artist pedophile, so maybe spare me the fake indignation and just admit that you got tricked.
The other option is that you knew Trump is a con-artist pedophile and voted for him anyway, in which case you're just an asshole.

>>220310507
He doesn't know he's been brainwashed, so he doesn't believe the thing he's been brainwashed to believe? Pretty shitty fucking brainwashing in that case.

>>220309230
I couldn’t care less about historical accuracy after they made Gawain into a Pakistani.

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>>220310441
>Christians hope he will be a King David like leader. A biblical example of an ambitious and violent man who was yet Godly.
>ambitious and violent man who was yet Godly
>yet Godly

>>220310349
It was a long process. The ancient israelites were, at some point, run of the mill polytheistic pagans, and yahweh was one of the gods in this pantheon alongside baal and moloch etc. Then at some point they became what's called "henotheist" which means they still believe in other gods, but that they have one particular god as their national god that they worship. You see this implied in the old testament with the commandment "no other gods before me" which still implies that these other gods exist. As well as plenty of passages about our god vs your gods, or the israelites constantly turning away from their god and worshiping baal/moloch.

Later on this turned to actual monotheism.

But even after the old and new testaments were codified, judaism kept morphing. Modern rabbinical judaism only started to come about and be defined in opposition to christianity, because modern jews are the leftovers, those who did not follow god, those who rejected god's message and the messiah. And second temple judaism didn't just stay in stasis since, their actual holy book became the talmud, which is a bunch of kikes arguing against god and finding loopholes around god's commandments, literally trying to jew god. And then there's all the zohar kabbalah shit which defines modern jews' theology/cosmology/eschatology.

>>220310544
please understand, it takes a long time to create a superpowered son, even for God. That's what we looked like when he started.

>>220310528
One, I'm not making an account to read that.
Two, media accounts of Trump are about as reasonable and honest as our deranged friend in this thread.
I have never once heard Trump spoken of or about in any of that many different churches I've gone to, btw.

>>220310550
>complete non sequitur
We are talking about Jesus here. You said I and others think he's like Jesus.
TDS people are seriously deranged and totally incapable of keeping it together.

>>220310577
Is "spite" a Christian value, sir?

>>220309301
>firsthand eyewitness
Lmao. I'm sure you'll convince the retards.

>>220309899
the difference is all these other cultures think those rules only apply to the ingroup whereas christianity makes them universal so that you are morally responsible for the well-being of niggers in africa. hence modern europe

>>220310528
Televangelism is a grift, not faith.

>>220309696
You do realise the tradition of painting Christ looking like this precedes this painting by hundreds of years?

>>220310577
>media accounts
It's a fucking pastor comparing him to Jesus, you moron.

Just Google examples of Christians comparing Trump to Jesus. I promise you'll find more than a few examples of influential Christians doing so. Your anecdotal evidence is worthless.

>>220310566
Are you saying King David wasn't Godly? Wasn't beloved by God?

>>220310583
Are you saying I'm spiteful? I am speaking as objectively and plainly as possible, any spite you are reading in is your own.

>>220310116
>religious people just seem more content and less anxious about life and death in general
My personal anecdotal experience is the opposite. I don't think someone that feels compelled to perform rituals every week, pray before every meal, feel constant shame about sex, is someone I'd consider content and less anxious about life. Also, they just aren't.

>>220310619
>Are you saying I'm spiteful?
Yes, I am saying that, given that you deliberately voted for a criminal pedophile purely to spite your fellow citizens. Either that or you got tricked into voting for a criminal pedophile. So which is it?

>>220310598
Religion is the biggest grift ever conceived.

>>220310293
>swindled so badly by jews into destroying Christianity that he became a frothing /pol/tard afterwards
lol yeah very based

>>220309427
It's all a giant scam, why do you even bother

>>220310663
>You're bad because in this narrow binary I invented in my head, you'd have to be bad to fit it
I have never yet seen a Trump supporter as deranged as the typical Trump hater

>>220310705
>>220310723
Yet somehow also responsible for all the best civilizations and people in history
Also I'm guessing both of these posts are yours, coming in with the real hot takes here 120 posts in

>>220309230
why are americans like this

>>220310001
Yeah just go to a church service and find a priest/pastor that doesn't seem retarded and ask him to make time to talk with you. That's what I did.
It was a fun conversation but it didn't reveal anything to me I don't already know. If you're completely ignorant of the faith it'll be educational, but I assume if you're atheist you're not ignorant. I went into it with trying to understand why someone has such a rooted belief in something that makes no sense, and I was still confused when I came out of it but felt like I made a friend.

>>220310736
>Yet somehow also responsible for all the best civilizations and people in history
hahaha

>>220309230
seems about right

>>220310662
you're describing an atheist stuck living with his religious family. actual religious people don't think saying grace or whatever is some kind of terrible burden. rituals are good and calming, they make your life more stable. notice how non-religious people invent replacement rituals for themselves like "i'm going to watch my favorite cartoon while eating my favorite food" as a way to cope with stress.

>>220310745
Provide one (1) single example of a better atheist society

>>220310736
>narrow binary I invented in my head
It's actually very simple: Either you knew what you were doing or you didn't know what you were doing. So which is it?

>>220309427
Both questions are answered by the verse thats ingrained in every Christians head. John 3:16

Jesus came down as a sacrifice to pay for everyone's sins and to give a guidance of how to go to heaven.
>>220309858
This is stupid
>>220309862
No one says this. Its an optional donation to support a group you are part of
>>220310060
If you are not orthodox or catholic, youre forgoing thousands of years of philosophy and thought on the religion; Because greedy anglos wanted more control over their populace. Pretty much all of Luther's complaints were addressed anyway.

>>220310083
The real difference in all Abrahamic religions is that Christianity is the only that doesnt believe in being a chosen people and original sin. Muslims and jews believe they are Gods chosen and are naturally pure and deserving of Gods grace. Christians believeve they are naturally flawed due to the original sin (adam and eve), so Christians need to believe and be decent people to make up for it.

>>220310838
Or I voted for the lesser evil
You literally voted for a corrupt pedophile, btw
Is that because your vote was used fraudulently by the Democrat party, or because you hate the world and want it destroyed? Which is it? It HAS to be one or the other.

>>220310577
I think the other anon is coming down on you in an unreasonable manner, but I also can't take someone serious who unironically still uses TDS. Trump is a bad president, anon. I don't care about him as a person, that's not my place to judge.

>>220310865
>Or I voted for the lesser evil
No, you didn't. You voted for the GREATER evil. If you really thought that, then I'll file you under "didn't know what you were doing."

>>220309230
how much lawsuit is he going to receive for making Jesus movie again lmao

>>220310795
>Notice
Are you following and researching atheist with your pen and legal pad. I'm not remotely neurotic and anxious about life and death, and I do so with less steps and rituals than a religious individual. What benefit are you purporting here, considering like I said, all those rituals are extra and very much indicative of anxiety and fear. I know plenty of Christians that will miss church and feel guilt and shame and talk about how hard it was for them. Which is fine to do, but let's not pretend there's additional baggage with that kind of lifestyle. If you need to do that, go for it.

Amazing how the movie isn't even out, and they're already kvetching

>>220310930
What social outlet are you replacing it with though? The biggest draw of organized religion is always ignored. Its a community support system, people that you will know for years, see every week and for the most part have a general interest in you not suffering.

>>220310978
What am I replacing going to church with? I've never felt the need for something like that, personally. Again, I don't think there's anything wrong with it or wrong with wanting that, I'm personally not a person that has desired it. I grew up going to church and thought it was fine, and when I got older I stopped going and didn't feel like I was missing anything. Aside from the coffee and donuts after mass. I have friends, family and a social group. I also don't have to worry about hell or demons and "sin" and unnecessary shame. There's literally zero upside to being religious for me. And I know you can't control whether you have a faith or not, so I'm not lording that over anyone. I just disagree with the anon that it's something to be admired.

>>220310972
passion of the christ was one of the first redpill baby steps I took as a teenager. I see there's allegedly all this controversy, how the movie is supposedly antisemitic, blah blah blah. And oh what do you know, it's literally just the stations of the cross exactly as they're outlined in the gospels. Wait, so when they say this movie is antisemitic, they're just saying the gospels are antisemitic? Hmmm...

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>>220310441
>Nobody says Trump is like Christ.
>Nobody
Except him, his whole cabinet, including his pet priest and all who attended recent American Conservative con

>>220310972
>and they're already kvetching
Who?

>>220310930
>>220311089
notice how some anon typed
>religious people seem less anxious
and that was enough to compel you to write all this stuff about how totally nonanxious and nonneurotic you are without religion, which is in itself a neurotic, anxious response. i think what you replaced going to church with is coping on imageboards

>>220311250
Sure if that makes you feel better.
So you have to go to church on top of the posting on imageboards, got it.

>>220309357
>Jesus was le blue eyed blonde haired marvel superhero!!
Do christcucks really?

>>220311285
who said i go to church?

>>220311188
Based desu

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>>220310317
>the rank-and-file Christians are brainwashed lunatics too
Only ones who rejected Christ and his Church.
So american conservatives (actually urabinte hedonists, from Epstein list)

>>220310469
This. You don't need to be religious to know it'll be something new and refreshing.

>>220311298
>why isn't Jesus black???? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Why do 3rd world brownies think that every one should be boring and brown and brown and brown and sometimes blacker. So boring. Plus the smell.

>>220309301
>according to historical account
Jesus he knows me and he knows I'm right.

>>220309915
Delusional christcuck. East asia was doing fine even before your jew faggot was born.

>>220311298
>I LIKE BLACK COCKS IN MY ASS AND I HATE HAVING A PENIS
Do gaytheists really?

>>220311432
Keep seething, faggot. Everything you know and love was invented by a Christian.

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>>220309230
We went from total kino... to that

>>220311432
Nigga it's barely doing fine today. A truck runs over you in East Asia and the rest of the bugs don't even notice or care until your carcass starts decomposing at which point the smell probably turns a few heads.

>>220311432
How are North Korean authorities allowing you internet access?

>>220311484
Jim is too old now and de-aging him with CGI might look finicky and distracting. I'm not going to shit on the new guy until we've seen some footage.
But it's worth noting that Mel can churn out some oscar-tier performances from literal who's with little to no acting experience. Apocalypto is one such example.

>>220309301
He’d have a near shaved head and shaved face. Olive colored not brown. Best analogy I can give his he was a Merkron or laborer, not carpenter. He wasn’t a full citizen of Rome, he would be like a Puerto Rican. It was a territory of Rome but not a full state with citizens lacking full rights. So short hair, no beard, rather short and skinny, not handsome, greying by 30 due to the hard life. There you go.

>>220311454
>>220311485
>>220311510
Seething Christcucks. Don’t cry once chinks becomes the new hegemon of the world and starts civilizing the west. Imagine a nation without mass shooting. A mutt can only dream.

>>220311610
>Imagine a nation without mass shooting
You mean like Tiananmen square?

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>>220309301
>Israeli researchers.

>>220311454
>literature
pagans
>theater (and therefore indirectly cinema)
pagans
>history
pagans
>public order and hygiene
pagans
>medicine
pagans
>empire-building
pagans
>monumental architecture
pagans
>athleticism, bodybuilding, self-improvement, conscious pursuit of virtue
pagans

everything actually good about western civilization was already present in grecoroman antiquity. christianity added a bunch of damaging nonsense like "being afraid of sex" and "thinking you have a moral imperative to babysit niggers."

>>220309804
it's taken seriously because most normal people already follow the same morality system even without being christian

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>>220311636
>That one time when the based chinks have to kill every other chinks with barbaric western values.
meanwhile you guys just can’t stop being barbaric in the year of your lord 2026.

>>220310020
That's just the Roman Empire. The Roman Republic was still an expansionist empire even before it gave over rule to a single man above all others.

The Romans conquered Judea in 63 BC, long before Jesus was born.

>>220311697
There's a ton of damaging nonsense stemming from paganism that was promptly discarded a long time ago. Barely anyone bothers to be an actual pagan nowadays, they're just atheists.

>>220311722
You can't be in the top 3 exporters of LiveLeak tier videos and call others barbaric, sorry

>>220311218
The dregs of society

>>220309910
Surely in the modern day you don't believe Adam and Eve were real people. It's a metaphor for humans becoming conscious and thus separate from nature. The Old Testament is pretty much straight fiction, the New Testament is what matters.

>>220311714
they follow it because they were born in christian societies and they inherited the morals even if they're nominally atheist.

>>220311743
>damaging nonsense stemming from paganism
such as?

>>220310083
>Judaism
Messiah is yet to come, think they are God's chosen people
>Christianity
Jesus Christ was the Messiah, think everyone can be apart of Gods chosen people
>Catholic
Branch of Christianity with direct lineage to Biblical times, literally founded by one of the 12 disciples iirc. Emphasises the Church as an institution being just as important as the Bible.
>Protestants
Pretty much only care what the Bible says, thus have like 4000 denominations of bullshit because of slight differences in wording and translation

>>220309301
>left jesus
average greek man
>right jesus
average australian man circa 1970s

>>220311865
There's plenty, especially depending on which specific pagan traditions and teachings you want to delve into, but to paint it with a broad stroke, there's human sacrifices, abandonment of infants, various wiccan and occult sexual degeneracy, giving power to, and consulting oracles (charlatans), brutal rituals that are supposed to honor the Gods, etc.
Modern society has discarded some unnecessary aspects of these ancient beliefs.

>>220309954
"Uhh I'm not an atheist, I'm an agnostic" is the pussy-ass bitch retard option. All atheists are agnostic atheists anyway.

>>220312006
>human sacrifices
those were already a distant memory in the grecoroman antiquity and romans were outraged when they found out carthaginians did it
>abandonment of infants
eugenics are good, plus all modern society did is replace infanticide with killing babies in the womb, which is worse
>various wiccan and occult sexual degeneracy
i'm talking about actual pagan societies, not christians larping as pagans
>giving power to, and consulting oracles (charlatans)
this is a constant feature of all human societies that has not been fixed or discarded in any way
>brutal rituals that are supposed to honor the Gods
see "human sacrifices."

chrisitianity doesn't "fix" anything in a pagan society that pagan societies aren't capable of fixing themselves by their normal development, such as in the grecoroman case. all you get from christianity is inane, unworkable moral ideas of universal equality, pacifism, hierarchy inversion and so forth. it's entirely a burden.

>>220310866
Come on. This person has TDS out the ears. He brings him up in totally nonsensical ways. That doesn't mean Trump is good, it just means this guy is deranged.

>>220311298
>durrr what's the muslim and mongol invasion?? I know nothing about anything!

>>220312502
Paganism was dead in the water for Rome well before Jesus came on the scene. Nobody believed it anymore and it wasn't governing their behavior in a productive way.

>chrisitianity doesn't "fix" anything in a pagan society that pagan societies aren't capable of fixing themselves by their normal development, such as in the grecoroman case. all you get from christianity is inane, unworkable moral ideas of universal equality, pacifism, hierarchy inversion and so forth. it's entirely a burden.
No, what they got from it was the greatest societies in history.

>>220312680
>No, what they got from it was the greatest societies in history.
what they got from it were schizophrenic societies that simultaneously emulated the pagans - larping like they're romans, calling their leaders "ceasar" 2000 years later and so forth - because of how obviously superior pagan rome was to everything that came before and after, while also having a christian belief system that gave them values literally opposite to the ones that governed the pagan empire they were emulating. the result is centuries of cognitive dissonance, of behaving like the romans while also having to justify that behavior within an extremely anti-roman, anti-imperial value system in which strength is a sin and losing is a virtue. "umm okay if we kind of squint we can pretend this line in the bible allows us to enslave niggers." to a pagan this would be unthinkable - what do you mean ALLOWED? "uhh you don't understand bro we can't just act strong because we're strong, we have to make it look like we're saving their souls and stuff." it's helpless neuroticism.

so now the chickens are coming home to roost and you're left with a civilization that thinks all their ancestors are guilty of the unforgivable crime of "winning" and is trying to commit mass suicide as penance. what is leftism if not distilled christianity? it was always gay. it was always poison.

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>Corinthians 11:1
>Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.
>Corinthians 11:14
>Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him?

>>220312502
>chrisitianity doesn't "fix" anything in a pagan society that pagan societies aren't capable of fixing themselves by their normal development,
Most of the pagan societies, were extremelly unstable even durring the peak of their power and capabilities.
Roman Republic literally couldn't catch a break from constant civil wars after Marian reform straight to Augustulus "reign".
Christianity brought enourmous stability to European communities and preserved enough knowledge to outperform Aniquity in state building.
>all you get from christianity is inane, unworkable moral ideas of universal equality, pacifism, hierarchy inversion and so forth.
Yet Christianity prospers, while paganism exists only due to LARPers.

>>220313709
>Christianity brought enourmous stability to European communities
that's a weird way to spell "endless devastating sectarian conflicts."

>Yet Christianity prospers, while paganism exists only due to LARPers.
what has prospered was behavior learned from pagans, which was good enough to work even despite the handicap of having to justify it within an inane moral system that punishes success. the ongoing suicide of the west is happening because the moral system has outlived the pagan inheritance. new paganisms will inevitably rise from the ruins.

>>220313462
>because of how obviously superior pagan rome was to everything that came before and after,
bull shit. Renaissance, Enlightenment, pre-modern, modern Europe were much better.
> in which strength is a sin and losing is a virtue
This isn't what Christianity ever was. This is your own inaccurate interpretation, not reality.
>what do you mean ALLOWED? "uhh you don't understand bro we can't just act strong because we're strong, we have to make it look like we're saving their souls and stuff." it's helpless neuroticism.
So if they had actually followed the Bible we would never have had slaves?
>so now the chickens are coming home to roost and you're left with a civilization that thinks all their ancestors are guilty of the unforgivable crime of "winning" and is trying to commit mass suicide as penance. what is leftism if not distilled christianity? it was always gay. it was always poison.
It's not distilled Christianity, it's highly corrupted Christianity. They are violating it in almost every way imaginable.

>>220314074
>that's a weird way to spell "endless devastating sectarian conflicts."
>devastating
Not a single of them undermined Christian Europe as much as crisis of the Third Centruy devastated Rome.
>what has prospered was behavior learned from pagans
Quite opposite.

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>>220309230
Here ya go, Da`Quan.

>>220309230
Yes, looks about right. If you want an extremely semitic Jesus wait for Way of the Wind

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>>220309301
The Lentulus letter is a complete fabrication, it was made up in the 1400s. You can call that jew propaganda, but there's no evidence backing up its claims beyond the fact you like what it says.

>>220314321
>This isn't what Christianity ever was.
of course not, that's my point. since christ's actual teachings are suicidal nonsense incompatible with earthly success, all successful christian societies were actually pagans with schizophrenia. what you call the proper "interpretation" of christianity is simply the sum total of their schizoidal excuses for why they're good christians despite acting paganly.

>So if they had actually followed the Bible we would never have had slaves?
they wouldn't be in position to even be facing that dilemma, no.

>It's not distilled Christianity, it's highly corrupted Christianity.
no, leftism is christianity unshackled from "tradition," ie all those schizoteories developed to allow "christians" to still act pagan. now the suicidality of the underlying moral framework can express itself without impediment. the leftist that worships niggers, that gets stabbed by a nigger and still makes excuses for him in the ambulance as he dies - he might not know it, but he is far closer to christ than you are. he dies like christ died. if heaven existed, he'd be the one going there, not you.

>>220309301
Shroud of Turin disproves the image on the left

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>>220315706
No it doesn't. That's a fake as well. You also can't 'disprove' the left because it's not actually Jesus since they don't have his remains. It's just an average person of the time. Jesus was implied to look average in this Bible: >>220315540

>>220309301
That's a reconstruction of some random guy of the period based on skulls, nobody claimed to be Jesus other than lying poltards like you

>>220315790
Shroud isn't fake, cope.

>Even now people think the king of the jews was a white guy.

???

Judas had to Kiss Jesus to identify him to the roman soldiers, which means Jesus looked like any Israeli

>>220309796
I liked that one christian artist that would do pencil drawings of Jesus helping regular modern day people, but the artist made him slightly chubby so he just looked like a jovial stoner dude

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According to Luke, he built his own guitar and played it divinely

>>220309282
I think I see Steve Wallis

>>220309427
Jesus is God
the Son and the Father are one

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>>220309230
reminder members of jesus's ethic group still exist.

>>220309230
As the son of the devil i can say yeah that's him alright. He's a cool guy but his dads a total dick. He says he loves you but if you piss him off he floods the place every damn time.

Islam won

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>>220317259
based and true

Torille?

>>220311561
Judeans didn't have the traditional grooming standards of Roman citizens(which were dying away anyway and within a century Roman emperors would be openly sporting beards) forced upon them.

>>220309301
Typical jewish trickery. You do not hate kikes enough. The god killers need to be made accountable for their crimes.

>>220309427
Nice try, kike. You dreidel spinners need to be exterminated ASAP.

>>220309427
The bible had always interested me.
1. Jesus is God. God had already wiped humanity a couple of times and I think he wanted to forgive our sins as much as his own. He died a brutal death at the hands of his own creation.

2. He succeeded. Jesus wasn’t meant to “save the world” but your soul.
In the bible it says you shouldn’t even love the world. More so attachments above God is a no. Almost reminds me of Buddhist philosophy.

>>220309230
yeah that looks about right actually

>>220311298
OP's pic looks more light brown for both. Who hurt you?

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>>220316988
They certainly do

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>>220310293
Martin Luther was a catholic scholar.
You could just as easily say he is a catholic reformist than the father or protestantism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB3g6mXLEKk

>>220318445
Ahh 8th grade atheism
Anyway: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/davearmstrong/2022/04/refutation-of-194-biblical-contradictions-1-25.html

>>220311549
Jim barely looks different, especially if you slapped a beard, long hair and a tiny bit of makeup on him. I never bought the afe argument.

>>220318550
I'd have less of an issue with fedoras if they were not so obviously starved for validation and miserable.

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>>220318519
>tips fedora (catholically)

>>220311549
Ehh I mean you can hide most of the aging behind the beard and long hair no

>>220309301
ah yes the first hand witness account written hundreds of years after the fact by people on a different continent

The fedora atheism thing hit the nail on the head so precisely they're still trying to project it onto christians to this day huh

There's no proof Jesus was even real. So what does it matter.

>>220318955
There's no proof he was resurrected though

>>220318955
Christians are the modern fedora tippers see: >>220318619

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I’v never understood the blonde hair blue eye argument from the left. This is the picture every Catholic or Lutheran midwestern house had when we grew up. This nigga never looked blonde or blue eyed to me.

>>220318968
See>>220318955

>>220311298
Jim Caviezel is neither blonde nor blue eyed. See >>220319110 then dilate.

>>220319061
See>>220318816

How did atheism fail so hard and so spectacularly?

>>220319269
reddit

Jesus mogged the World so hard they are still seething about him to this very day.

>>220319269
Because pride is the root of all sin.

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>>220309301
>and alleged supernatural visions

>>220319269
>atheism fail
>when the biggest representative of zoomer christianity is spic fuentes
dont count your chickens before they hatch anon

>>220309301
>skeletal discovery
excuse me?

>>220319430
>when the biggest representative of zoomer christianity is spic fuentes
who cares about zoomers, retard?
get off the internet

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>>220309301
right side is all made up bullshit btw

>>220319269
Gen Z is the least religious generation in history

>>220319561
>conjecture
it's worse than conjecture, it's idolatry

fact: jesus will have looked syrian
other fact: syrians aren't white

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>>220319561
Quiet, gaytheist

>>220319685
fact: God is white and Jesus looked like him

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>>220319685
Okay

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if God wanted to present himself to us in an ideal human form then of course he'd choose to be Finnish

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>>220319761
>oy vey, of course jews are white, just look at this one!

>>220319859
>okay, so Jesus did have light features, I admit it, BUTTTTT

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>>220319649
you sure about that one lil bro?

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>>220319689
lmao you christ cultists don't even read your bible

any depiction of jesus with long hair is fake because the bible says longs hair is for faggots

the one that looks like an orangutan galiliean is probably the most accurate

also you worship a made up jew lol

>>220320167
are jews white or not

>>220309301
>aaaaaaaaah AIslop God saves me from the mighty jewish tricks

>>220309796
>surfer hippie image
he was created in our likeness
OUR likeness, not yours

>>220320297
you need a separate chart for what gen z'ers SAY versus what they do. because apparently lots of gen z will self report that they attend church regularly but if you actually track church attendance gen z numbers are near nonexistent, they're just full of shit.

>>220320297
they say they go to church but it's not backed up by actual evidence according to churches themselves so they're sinning

>>220320310
OOF well heckfire look who's an edgy fella!!!
It's not 2005. No one's impressed anymore

>>220319859
modern jews =/= jews of the bible

>>220319430
Glow in the dark post.

>>220320321
They definitely don't look like Asians or Afro-Latino's

>>220320402
No argument. Everything I said is true I accept your defeat

>you're edgy for not bowing to my jewish cult
You dumb boomers cannot expire soon enough

>>220319829
The asians of white people? Really?

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>>220320378
aight whatev you say bruh

>>220320439
This will go so hard on reddit bro

>>220320402
>It's not 2005. No one's impressed anymore
I remember a spic that went to my high school who would would constantly try to get into religious "debates" by saying shit like "oh yeah well God sent a bear to maul children in 1 kings so therefore your god isnt real because that's a fairy tale" and any time you tried to make some distinction for the scripture he would just write it off as all made up lol. So cringe. Hope that little spiclet is doing ok today.

>>220320450
>he just posts another self report poll
convenient of you to leave out that almost 50% of zoomers self-identified as non-religious/secular in that same data set of the graph you just posted, making them the least religious generation in history

>>220320439
>cannot expire soon enough
Tranny/groomer nomenclature detected

>>220320439
Do you know what demographics are? Do you know what anthropology is? Do you know where the Levant is?
And I already made my arguments
>>220319761
>>220319689
>>220318519
>>220318226
>>220318159
>>220318084
not me but true v
>>220318955

>>220309230
>>220309301
I'm convinced only Jews bring up Jesus' skin color in order to divide instead of bringing up His message.

>>220309975
LMAO you are a kike faggot

>>220320482
>anti semetic website doesn't like your jew worship fantasy

go back

>>220320705
You will never top Revelation 3:9 pack it in

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There is a world where everyone can be happy

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>>220309230
>Yes goy, worship the magic jew and go into the light. Grandma and Sparky are waiting there, totally!

>>220311692
I'll trust Israeli researchers over biased Christ cucks any day. Christians have a weird obsession of trying to whitewash Jesus. Guess what, he's middle eastern so he was brown

what jesus actually looked like is irrelevant and most eyewitness descriptions are vague and unreliable at best, but shit like this >>220309301
(the left hand one) is beyond retarded. He most likely looked like a whiter version of modern levantines as the levant was much more european at the time owing to a lack of arab conquests.

>>220320880
See
>>220319761

>>220320874
This will go so hard on /r/atheism bro

Atheists defeated once again. Based!

>>220320839
why does the french jesus have a pyramid instead of an eiffel tower?

>>220320839
>Black Jesus has a lion buddy to hunt down sinners and devower them whole.

Checkmate, Atheists.

>>220321216
probably cuz ai is trying to dox me

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>>220309301
Even the mormons admit Jesus was brown and their entire faith is built on white supremacy

>>220320935
It's literally amazing how nobody seems to grasp this. The arab, mongol, turkic invasions that happened 700+ years later are what browned the area. There are still pockets of the old genetic semites and levantines and they are basically white. Not to mention various clues in the bible that suggest whiteness (Esau, ancestor of Jesus being 'ruddy' and 'red' etc)

>>220320880
>average liberal's historical literacy

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>Gibson has described his $250M two-part epic as “an acid trip” featuring angelic/demonic battles set during Christ’s descent into hell.
Will this be the closest we get to Paradise Lost kino?

>>220320699
Woah, the k-word? That's hardcore!

>>220321673
Are you lost?

>>220321694
Yes in your dad's pussy

>>220309230
why does he make people seethe so much?

>>220321751
Why do you post pointless, leading questions?
t. Christian

>>220322113
why do jews do jewish nonsense? jews killed Christ. its fair that we kill them all.

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>>220309230
Jesus was white yes

>>220320880
The only thing you deserve is a bullet in the brain, you kike rodent.

>>220319269
more browns came online

>>220320321
they obviously are by any objective standard but larpers can't help but cope

>>220309730
>what does that make me
That makes you (and many, including myself) a "cultural christian" and it's a perfectly legitimate outlook. Many great atheist scientists and thinkers like Dawkins, Hitchens and Krause also qualify as such. It's basically, as you said, anyone who believes there was a dude who lived 2000 years ago, whose apparent teachings and followers played a significant role in the development of the enlightenment and western civilization. These "live and let live" atheists differ from what I like to call "Ackshully atheists" or "Reddit atheists" whose only contributions are smug condescension and mockery. Cultural christians also see Islam and other religions as antithetical to a healthy, successful Europe, and to some degree, America. Hope that helps.

>>220310852
>This is stupid
Why is it stupid? Makes a hell of a lot more sense than "God sent a part of himself down so it could suffer and die on our behalf in some vague way that people never seem to articulate"