What the fuck is this shit
It's not overdone. Looks like something you would actually see in ancient Greece.
>>220313305For a second i thought that red thing on the bottom left was some black woman with red dreadlocks. Missed opportunity, Nolan.
>he doesn't knowngmi brah
>>220313305a big guy
>>220313335>Looks like something you would actually see in ancient Greece.Are you fucking retarded? Do you think plate armor like this existed in ancient Greece? They may as well be driving tanks.
>>220313305In the catalog I thought this was a screenshot from the grogu movie
>>220313381>They may as well be driving tanks.Nolan could do the funniest thing, but he's a fucking hack so...
>>220313404>an island of time travelling third reich refugees
>>220313356for u
>>220313381It may not have been a wide spread thing but surely some rich big guy somewhere thought "Hey, what If I covered my entire body in metal instead of not doing that? I bet I could kill more "Surely someone at somepoint thought this.This is that guy.
>>220313437>metalyou mean plastic?
>>220313305PURE. UNADULTERATED. KINO
>>220313305looks like a batman fever dream
>>220313305Bronze age steel?I dont even know if they were bronze age people im just guessing
>>220313437No thats not how things worked
anglos should be banned from making movies
>>220313305who are they supposed to be?
>>220313463You're such a pedantic little shit. I bet you don't have any friends irl.
>>220313505big guys
>>220313381It's a fantasy, do you also whine about gandalf having spells in LOTR? AAARGGGHH I CANNOT SUSPEND MY DISBELIEF WHEN TALKING ABOUT 9 FOOT UNDEAD KNIGHTS, I'M GOOOOING INSANE!
>>220313476This movie is starting to look like a Matrix 4 style goof movie.
>>220313381>they could bang out steel swords but nobody ever thought of doing the same with armoursIf you believe this you’re retarded, never trust historians, I’ll believe there were real minotaurs around before I believe ”historically accurate armours”.They had solid platinum plated armours for all I know.
>>220313381>>220313437I remember once hearing they could make full body armor long before they started to, but didn't because horses back then were too small to carry troops wearing it. Is that bullshit? Kinda sounds like it is.
>>220313613Individual armor plates with leather straps holding it together is easier to smith than a good straight longsword, they obviously could do it.
>>220313305It's like Star Wars but in Bronze Age Greece,>Concept art designer 1: "ok, we need an axe for our Purgetrooper">Concept art designer 2: "np, I got you">check it>it is this piece of shit
>>220313505Probably the Laestrygonians. Nolan is putting them in this retarded armor to cover up bad CGI I think (you can see some of it if you look at the giant's face in OP's picture).
>>220313500This. No random guy ever got an idea about anything. >bro thinks the seeds need to take turns
>>220313512whereas i bet your pathetic rage whenever you see someone insult a movie has earned you a loyal band of brothers
>>220313305The more I see the more it looks like some ai hallucinating
>>220313427Generational kino
>>220313613The Odyssey is set in a time period before men rode horses anon. Chariots yes, riding on a horse no. Metal was too expensive and precious to give men full suits. These soldiers didn't even have arm guards in their armour
>>220313494Silver, in the greek myths Olympians had silver armor>>220313305Laestrygonians I guess.
>>220313437They did think of that. It looked like this
>>220313437>What you may not know is, before the 1300s, they only had enough metal for smol plates, beautiful smol plates, after a few centuries people gathered enough iron to make the big one, they say they had the biggest plates in the 1500s, but a lot of smart people know that nowadays we have the biggest plates.
>>220313713>he typed impotently
>>220313743Its not because they couldn't make arm guards, its because with shields and the fighting techniques of the era they weren't necessary, also people absolutely rode horses directly for war during the Trojan war. Google the Sintashta culture
>>220313575>they could bang out steel swordsYeah like 1400 years later you fucking dumbass
>>220313381he baited you
> island dwellers wearing heavy armour.No lol.
>>220313743Pure conjecture with no proof backing anything in this post up.This is what your view of ancient Greece will be if you trust jewish historians.
>>220313743Why is there a cyclops the size of an elephant in it? Back then most sources suggest people were way smaller than nowadays, it's not at all realistic that there's people that tall back in those times.
>>220313777No, it didn't. That's just not how things work.
>>220313777You're laughing. You can't hurt him with your spear and you're laughing!
>>220313305Are those pteruges made of steel? Hahahahahaha
>>220313799Anon no one in the Iliad rides a horse. And everyone who rides a chariotgets off it to fight. Scholars have noticed that this isn't how chariot warfare worked but there is zero 0 evidence for man on top of horse fighting. Arm gaurds were a fighting style thing but also to reduce costs. If metal was cheap and easy to make they'd make extra armour because why not? >>220313850The proof is the utter lack of anyone riding a horse in Homers works. Not once does someone ride a horse ever. >>220313853The cyclopes in the movie is too small actually. The poem describes him as picking up to men at a time in one hand to eat them. Maybe hes using 1 hand per man so the movie size is right but they were always gaints. This is the age of heroes were men were larger than later 'fallen' cvilisation of ancient greece etc.
>>220313803Wrong, there were individual master smiths who could do it in ancient Greece.I bet you believe the moment something is patented that’s when it’s invented too.
> Odysseus?> we sail back across the Aegean Sea> was getting cock part of your plan?
>>220313999Steel swords were not widespread until like 600 AD you absolute mongoloid.
>>220313981They are works of fiction, maybe Homer just hated horses or it was seen as beneath men of honor to ride his own horse at the time?Like I said stating it as fact that the people of ancient Greece couldn’t ride horses because they don’t do it in the works of Homer is pure conjecture.
>>220314150>widespreadThanks for proving my point.
>>220314182They could ride horses, just not into battle
>>220313476The armor looks like it's made out of plastic
>>220313981Anon I didn't say the Mycenaean's rode horses, I said people during that era rode horses. We have evidence a thousand years before the historic city of Troy VI-VII is sacked that people rode horses for war.You just have no fucking idea what you're talking about.
>>220314215The post I originally reponded to said it was ”set in a time before men rode horses”.
>>220314267>Troy VI-VIIWhy the fuck are you attaching Star Wars episodes to it?
>>220314182Horse riding came later and not in the time period the iliad is set>or it was seen as beneath men of honor to ride his own horse at the time?Anon Hector the most celebrated hero of the Iliad, and why the Iliad is named after Ilium, Troy, and not the Achelliad after Achilles. His epithet is 'the breaker of horses'. It was a highly esteemed role and he does not ride a horse. Horse pull chariorts and that is it.Other peoples may have rode horses at this time, the greeks did not, the trojans did not.
>>220314307Because thats the archeological era of the city of Troy that corresponds to when the Iliad would've taken place.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy#Troy_VI%E2%80%93VII_in_Hittite_records
>>220314267Again anon other people/barbarains riding horses is whatever. Im talking about the greek myth of the iliad, during this time greeks did not ride horeses. Hence during a greek myth no one is riding a horse into battle.
>>220314389>akchually no one was exploring other galaxies in 1977 so Star Wars doesn't have any spaceships in it
>>220314389You're moving the goalposts now, and you know it. Everyone who reads your dumb shit can easily see it. Just admit you don't know what you're talking about, and you're speaking from pure conjecture.
>>220314484>Commonly held scholar perspective is just conjecture because an anon on /tv/ is upset at the idea ancient greek people didn't ride horses in one of their epic mythsAnd no anon, in the context of discussing Homer I assumed people here wouldn't be so autsitic to assume than when I say 'they' I was refering to the peoples actually in Homer and not everyone on Earth.Its an austic/jewish level of langauge nitpicking that no one cares for
>>220313856Cope
>>220313305>nolan finally doing fantasy filmsIt's about same time,was getting really tired of his entire gimmick
>>220314617>inb4 the giants and cyclopses are Don Quixote style halucinations
>>220314617except hes making this movie the exact same way with the same shitty cast of actors
>>220313305I remember people saying this is just a placeholder and will get fixed by cgi.
Will this be Nolan's first big flop?
>>220313305Metatrons gonna freak...
>>220313532you're doing the same shit libs do when you complain about black elves and hobbits in lotr
>>220313305Looks better than the dyed black armor of the man behind him.
>>220313381Do you think cyclopses, sirens and witches existed back then? Do you think a collections of Gods specifically intercede in the goings on of the mortal world to fuck with one guy who demonstrated sub-par fealty to them?
>>220313305new kamen rider looks fun
>>220314833because you're making the same retarded argument about "realism" in a story about magic. we can argue about whether or not elves would be caucasoid or negroid but the plain fact of the matter is elves don't exist so its a pretty gay thing to get mad about
>>220313381Nolan shills are jumping you but you're completely right
>>220313305
>>220313305Actually looks pretty kino honestly
>>220313305>the armor is the problem not the fact that it’s filled with shitty A-list actors who don’t fit in at all in the film to the point where the trailer looks AI generated and the prompt is: ”put the 20 biggest hollywood stars in a gritty film about ancient greece”.
>>220314843Nobody thinks Robin Hood was real but we don't give him a carbon fiber bow in his stories
>>220313305>I'm da Juggernaut Bitch!
>dude horses totally weren't invented yet back then
>>220314894so why are you mad then
>>220313305This shit looks like something that would be on Best of the Worst.
>>220314894>just let the niggerfry your culture icons goyim it's not real
>>220313476if I pull the helmet off,would you die?
>>220315044A film can have more then one problem anon.
>>220313437lmao. Nolanboys imagining maybe one rich guy in Ancient Greece did so and so haha.
>>220315112that anon is retarded but the odyssey is set almost 2000 years before the romans
>>220313797How smol?
>>220313575It was the BRONZE age bitch. There was no steel.
>>220315170The stories do feature what would be the most prominent people of that era, so it would be them that had access to rare weapons and armors.
>>220315208How did they make the bronze armor? On a steel anvil with a steel hammer, retard
>>220313305did they get niggers and mexicans to make these costumes? lmao
>>220314014>why would you falchion a man before throwing him from a bireme?
>>220315257Indians
>>220315155Θα ήταν πολύ επίπονο
>>220313305>>220314998Holy shit, Nolan is a fucking retard...
>>220314014lolseing stuff like this,almost compensates for being born in this extremely shitty times
>thread exposing most /tv/ posters as retards that don't know basic history
>>220315231That's not true.They used iron. But bronze was better.You do know the difference between iron and steel, right? Right??
>>220315208>believes ”the bronze age” meant everyone only had access to bronze and no harder metalsKek
>>220315281για σένα
>>220315319>>220315231>t. doesn't know difference between iron and steel
>>220315231Bronze was cast in molds actually
>>220315155It would be extremely unsafe
Fun fact, bronze was the most-used metal even later because steel was fucking expensive
>>220315316>You do know the difference between iron and steel, right? Right??yes and so did the smiths during the "bronze age" of ancient Greece.Not everyone was living in huts like your ancestors back then.
>>220313305Oh god, is this Nolan's idea of a cyclops? That fucking hack.
>>220313352kek
>>220313381>full plate armor that doesn't fit correctly>no gauntlets baka
>>220315396And do you know why they used iron and bronze instead of steel?? Because they couldn't make steel in the quantities necessary for weapons, armor, and other shit. It was RARE. It was the BRONZE age, not the STEEL age
>movie about some dude beating sirens and cyclopses and being invincible except for his heel>UHM AKCHUALLY THIS AMOUNT OF ARMOR IS UNREALISTIC
>>220313532This guy was way too patient with her.>>220314894just make a movie that isn't shit next time okay nolan?
>>220314617Nolan doing fantasy is the worst outcome, the guy should stick to drama and thriller/action.
name one (1) instance of steel being used in the bronze age
>>220315514>>220313305
>>220314998lmao
>>220315500woman brained fag
>>220315511He should go back to making batman movies
>>220315482>story featuring literal kings and heroes who were want for nothing>"b-but steel is inaccurate b-because it was rare and expensive!!"kek
>>220315437no, but picrel is.... still a hack
I will watch the supercut of Pattinson relentlessly bullying that twink
>>220315500>movie about fighting dragons in middle ages>UM ACTUALLY THERE SHOULDN'T BE NIGGERS IN THIS
>>220314014The best edit of that scene is from the POV of a car interior and you see Terry Davis' smiling face in the rear view mirror and the fbi dude is glowing.. I saw it on a LPC video that got taken down and I really wish I had it as a jpeg on my puter.
>>220315555That's why we found so much steel in the tombs of Pharoahs
>>220315555This isn't about realism in the film, it's about that faggot who said historians are lying about ancient armor technology
>>220315500In none of those myths or legends do they wear plate armor, brosephina. Just have them use guns and every character is a big titted hooker then. Cry about that? nope you can't
>>220315586The problem there is that the niggers are portrayed as brave and intelligent which breaks immersion similar to pic related
I'm going to make a movie about the first tour de france and every cyclist in the film will be portrayed by a 400lbs person and their bike will either be a dirtbike or an e-bike and all the people in france will be in gay pride burkas.
>>220315112>>220315191horses were around but like other anons have said, they weren't ridden in battle in the Mediterranean at the time of the Trojan War. Horses back then were small as shit which is why chariots had teams of horses pulling them. Even the steppe nomads had piddly diddly little horses. You can look up videos of Mongolians and their horses today and they're basically ponies.
>>220315675>all the people in france will be in gay pride burkas.historically accurate.
>>220315546God, no.
>>220315695Well yeah, Mongolian horses were bred for long marches and shit, not a cataphract charging a battle line
>>220315643>moving the goalpost50 posts ago you said iron and steel didn't exist in ancient greece.
>>220315698lol'd but anon the first tour de france was in 1903
>>220315719>cataphractNo, I dlive Rincorn Continentar
>>220315719>Mongolian horses were bred for kung pow chicken
>>220315500>costumes, sets, and physical effects don’t matter in movies because…they just don’t ok!?
>mfw nolans mythical Laestrygonians giants aren't wearing period appropriate armour>mfw the cyclops has a midwest american accent and isn't speaking classical greek>mfw matt damons teeth are too white for the time periodwhat a fucking hack nolan is
>>220315627Extremely retarded to compare the Egyptian bronze age to the Ancient Greece bronze age.
>>220315112Horses were a new invention, they had on just started cross breeding dogs and cows to make them.
>>220315732Man just shut the fuck up. They couldn't produce steel at scale. You can call that moving the goal post, but it doesn't change my point
>>220315865Anon... Cows were imported from America after Europeans discovered it
Why is tarantino the only director who hires actually talented actors?
>>220313305Every main character looks like a soft faggot (actor), at least these giants in full plate look like fighters.
>>220315871can you prove that mythical giants in ancient greece didn't wear steel plate armor?i don't think so, bud.
>>220315845not nearly as retarded as thinking the bronze age greeks made steel plate armour
>>220315817This but unironically, it should've been Eggers who directed it.
>>220315878Where does chocolate milk come from?
>>220315719Mongols didn't exist yet.
>>220315719yes so you get what I'm saying. The horses were small ergo you didn't have dudes suited up in bronze riding them.
>>220315897Present your evidence of mythical giants with steel armor and we can talk.
>>220315930That's nice and all, but anon specifically talked about Mongolian horses
>>220315316Iron is useless.but in their rage,the gods forgot the secret of steel and left it on the battlefield. We who found it are just men. Not gods. Not giants. Just men.You must learn its discipline. For no one – no one in this world can you trust. Not men, not women, not beasts.
>>220315897yes, they didn't know what that was and all of the art and literature you're referring to specifies that they didn't.
>well I guess it's possible for full steel plate to exist during the times of Troy
>>220315918this guy >>220315871 is disagreeing with me and even he admits it existed, retard.
>>220313476Kino design desu the material just looks really wrong
Historical nitpicking aside, and I love me some historical nitpicking, it also just looks like shit.
>>220315938Oh yeah I wasn't the guy you were arguing with or anything. Should have made that clearer in a thread where everyone is just shitposting
>>220315943How can mongolian horses exist if mongols don't exist?
>>220315965this retard thinks the ancient greeks had steel plate armour lmao
>>220315958His jacket is pretty lame. A jean jacket would be cooler.
While period accurate bronze age armor would have been interesting, it’s not essential. The armor is bad because it looks like absolute total shit, not because it is innacurate. They could have leaned in to more of a hoplite-style look, which is recognizable and infinitely better than their 3d printed plastic looking trashBut I’m also not going to watch any movie with blackwashing, troons, and the worst actress of a generation all in one package if it can’t even be bothered to look decent. I think I saw maybe two colors that weren’t gray or brown in the entire trailer
>>220315228People who do the mental gymnastics for shoddy writers and directors should be shot.
>>220313797Long live Israel!
>>220314894every time
>>220315971looks like the neck guard would redirect the blow into your head which is a great design for armor!
>>220316011>the worst actress of a generationLooked up the cast cause I had no idea who you mean and they put two niggers in this? Fucking kekeroni
I wasn't taught any of this in school
>>220316011How about a movie about vikings and they're all goth with eyeliner and covered in mud and shit and they wear crude leather and animal pelts and have no stitching or cotton or wool
>>220315971if you want it to look like capeshit
>>220316051kino
>>220313305armor seems a bit lacking in the right underarm area…
>>220316028I will only accept titanium silver M5 or M3. 530i is not military spec.
>>220314014I really feel like he should be in this movie, it shares a goofy energy that tdr had and said actor has been in got so he feels fantasy compatible
>>220316051Hopefully that style is dead and buried in the ground where it belongs
>>220316008>he thinks that's all they had
>>220316051vikings of the caribbean would be kino>>220316075no gauntlets either and clearly poorly fitted>>220316084I doubt it sadly
>>220313305So how does he turn his head?Didn't Nolan specifically deal with "how does Batman turn his head" issue and famously solved it by redesigning the outfit? And now we're back to this again?Who's in charge of designing this garbage?
>>220316118>this is fine but big boobs aren't
>>220316118Why would you need to turn your head? Just hit the enemy in front of you
>>220316118he just turns his body
>>220316140What if enemy to the side?
>>220316140>comes from the side and chops your unprotected sword hand off
>>220316038z*ndaya
>>220316162>dude I will just le flank this one enemy in a battle formationUH WHY ARE THEIR SHIELDS ONLY POINTED FORWARD WHAT IF I SIMPLY GO AROUND THE SIDE LOL
>>220316159Would an enemy in light armor who can easily out maneuver you really do this when they notice you cannot turn your head or see anything? The opening in the front of the helmet is also so gapingly huge that it would be ridiculously easy for an archer to shoot him in teh face or anyone with a pointy stick longer than his sword to stab him in the face. Literally anyone with a 5' pointy stick could kill this guy in a battle without him being able to do shit about it
>>220316169The only beautiful woman in the film who isn't over 40, and nobody besides Pattinson out of the entire cast can act so who cares if she can't?
>>220313305>someone got paid to design this
>>220316208The big guy in the op pic doesn't have a shield or a spear and he can't turn his head.
>>220316227sukhdeep and his 20 cousins did it for 50 cents
>>220316249>I don't understand analogies
>>220316223>Literally anyone with a 5' pointy stick could kill this guy in a battle without him being able to do shit about itexcept he's faster than you and doesn't die instantly from a pointy stick even if it pierces his heart.
>>220316118> Who's in charge of designing this garbage?megatron
>>220316226She single handedly took dune 2 down from a 9/10 to a 7/10
>>220316274This nigga put vampires in his movie?
>>220316208Firstly flanking a formation like that or getting behind them is exactly what any military would be doing.Secondly, they dont have shields and they're in a loose formation walking slowly. Their armor has enormous chinks that are more like chasms and they have no gauntlets. And as I mentioned the helmets do not protect the face they have a gaping hole bigger than your mom's.>>220313305
>>220316118>Who's in charge of designing this garbage?Google Veo 3.1
>>220316208Yes, you would flank this formation or try to get behind it, dipshit.
>>220316322>>220316297According to you, that formation cannot be flanked because they can turn their heads
>>220316208In shield wall combat like this you literally do attack the person to your side diagonally not straight ahead because there is a shield there and your shield is also in front of you.You clearly suck at LARPing
>>220316208congrats on figuring out basic ancient warfare
>>220316258Your analogy is inaccurate.
>>220315130>my cultural icons are little forest creatures pretty shit culture you've got there, m8
>>220316288Hopefully there will be even more closeups of her snarling, flaring, huge, gaping nostrils Thats what audiences want to see
>>220316322counterpoint: their boots aren't glued to the ground so they can turn around as many degrees as they want to.
>>220313305a garbage movie for retards
>>220316274>except he's faster than you and doesn't die instantly from a pointy stick even if it pierces his hearHe's slower than teh arrow I just shot into his eyeball.>>220316346I never said this. Me and a few others pointed out that not being able to turn your head is a massive disadvantage and no armor was designed without letting you move your head because it was important. You suck at this.
>>220315958You really have no argument, do you?
>>220316349Yes that is how they did it, that doesn't change the fact that the defender always has a huge advantage over the attacker, dumbass.
>>220313305>DONT U KNOW WHO OI AM?>IM THE JUGGERNAUT BITCH
>>220316432I don't know what you're talking about but you're upset and wrong.
>>220315271
>>220316373My boots are glued to the ground though so I can't flank my enemy I have to run backwards and bent over into their spear wall. Even when they don't have spears or shields and it's 5 guys who cant turn their heads walking slowly through a forest.
>>220313305This would go down like the Battle of Teutoburg Forest but worse since their kit is dogshit.
>>220316551>This would go down like the Battle of Teutoburg ForestYou mean the one where an army of Germanic tribes, who were trained by a German living in Rome for all his life, beat another army of soldiers trained in Rome?
>>220313305why doesn't the pointy middle part of the helmet extend down to protect the mouth and chin? seems like a design oversight.
>>220315971Batman would wear it no problem
>>220316578Yes the one where the romans were marching through a thick forest in a line that was about 10 miles long and the Germans surrounded them and attacked the line from the sides by throwing a shitload of javelins at them and they immediately routed them and raped the shit out of them as they retreated. Why didn't they just make a shield wall in da thick forest!?!?! Why didn't the Germans attack them from the front!?!?! Were their boots glued!?!?! Why didn't the Romans simply turn!?!? BOOT GLUE!!!
>>220316578Wow you should be out there solving murders, not wasting your time on 4chan!
>>220316665https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArminiusBorn a prince of the Cherusci tribe, Arminius was part of the Roman-friendly faction of the tribe. He learned Latin and served in the Roman military, which gained him Roman citizenship, and the rank of eques. After serving with distinction in the Great Illyrian Revolt, he was sent to Germania to aid the local governor Publius Quinctilius Varus in completing the Roman conquest of the Germanic tribes.
>>220316578You take a bunch of heavily armored superior guys trained to fight in shield wall formation into a thick forest and they get brutally assfucked by a bunch of stinky barbarians throwing sticks at them. They must have glued the forest.
>>220316693>>220316578Missing the forest for the trees! ha >the germans didn't win that battle cuz he was trained by a roman so the romans actually won!!! also they had their boots glued that's why the germans were able to attack them fromt he sides not the front!
>>220316726I'm saying they didn't get ambushed by le epic barbarians, it was basically two Roman-tier armiesLearn to read
>>220316693>>220316578my point was spear shield wall formation doesnt work in a forest and attacking from the flank is based. no clue what you're talking about. he was trained by romans? I guess that's why he knew how to buttfuck them so good! BARBARIANS WIN BARBARIANS WIN!!!!
>>220316774>the Romans lost because their armor was as cumbersome as the one in OP
>>220313305he's a big guy
>>220316749Yes, Germans and Celts are superior to italians. Thanks for finally owning up to it. Must have hurt a lil to admit it.
>>220316697>Romans superior to Germanic peopleAnd the Romans, where are they now?
>>220316799Witnessed.
>>220316749>the "barbarians" easily dispatches the romans after only learning some basic combat tactics from themshould be proof enough of their superiority.
>>220316815Cleaning my toilet.>>220316749You said it's impossible to flank someone unless they are glued to the ground. How do you glue boots to dirt, dipshit? The Germans attacked from the flank in a thick forest. Unpossible to flank without gluing the boots though.
Okay I've shitposted enough for today, gonna play some vidya. Enjoy your slightly more on-topic threadAnd no, I won't tell you which posts were mine :^)
>>220316905>And no, I won't tell you which posts were mine :^)we already know you're the one claiming they didn't have steel armour in ancient greece, nice try.
>>220316869That retard said you can't flank someone if their boots aren't "glued" to the ground. OPs battle is clearly in a thick forest. I bring up how easily it is to flank a large army in a thick forest. He starts talking about it not counting because oen of the Germans had military training. Fucking buffoon still hasn't presented any evidence of boot glue existing. Haha this actually reminds me of battle tactics like flooding the land so the ground becomes boot glue! There are so many creative ways to make it easier to flank a larger superior force and destroy your enemy! Thick forest or muddy ground are two. You can set shit on fire too.
>>220313437>man, instead of just running at these fucking trojans with a heavy sword, why don't i just make a mechanical device that launches a projectile at high velocity through a tube using the energy from rapidly expanding gases accomplished through the chemical combustion of propellant within a small cartridge?
>>220316905>>220316950samefagYou're the boot glue spazz who just got BTFOTOTAL BARBARIAN VICTORY
>>220313381Were you there, you fucking retard?
>>220316969energy wasn't invented yet
>>220316994They didn't have energy during the bronze age, just bronze.
>>220316992Yeah I was, faggot
>>220317031settle down gramps u old as shit
>>220316950This retard done think the ancient greeks had steel plate
>>220316969Impossible, they didn't unlock it on the technology tree yet
>>220316969> And what if that projectile would be configured to be bigger and fit on top of a gigantic suit of armor that a pilot would control via levers, while he himself remains relatively safe inside the confines of this... this.... armored vehicle?
>>220313305Why is he using a Gladius and not a Kopis
>>220317132He went to Iberia to buy it
>>220313335In what era, in what war, in what city state do you think you'd see that?
This thread is hysterical
>>220315580Based
>>220317132Better yet, why is his armor spray dyed matte black.
>>220317147bollywood era
>>220316992Ridley Scott pls go
>>220317132it was the greek samurai way
>>220317147In the same era in which the giants and cyclopses existed probably.
>>220317164It was the matte age
>>220317164>>220317247Matte Damon requested it
>>220317147I saw it in X-Men Last Stand and I think there was basically a war between mutants in that
>>220317293cyclops was there
>>220317316kek well there you go, just like the Odyssey
>>220313305The new Mandarin and Grok looks kino!
This movie alone will sustain us with memes unending.
>>220313305Is he a great big fat person?
>>220317198>why dragon good but bmw badAlso the armor just looks fucking awful. People wouldn’t be complaining half as much about historicity if the armor didn’t look like spirit halloween plastic garbage
>>220317165It is quite scary how close capeshit is to Bollywood
>>220317368The dialogue alone sounds like it will be feeding us for years like TDKR did
>>220317388>spirit halloween plastic garbagenailed it. the "historicity" of the armor and the material is irrelevant. it just looks like some nickelodeon daytime tv special, not the highest level Hollywood production.Nolan is clearly autistic but not in a way where he cares about stuff like that at all. To him this looks good enough.Villeneuve had the same problem with Dune. Sardaukar looked like they were wearing pajamas and Fremen had some current day off-the-shelf tactical gloves and also their suits weren't fitted properly.Lazy prop designs just to make do.
>>220313305Every image, trailer, tidbit of news I’ve seen is somehow worse than the last. That’s pretty impressive when the very first I saw of this film was the poster with Matt Damon
>>220317524I can't stand Matt Damon's acting and he's going to be front and center looking all concerned and indignant the entire time.Out of all the actors why the fuck did Nolan choose him.
>>220315695It's not really a case of smallness. That's the cited orthodoxy yet it's simply speculative as I've never heard of a single, should be easily provable, case of documenting horses were bigger in 800-900 BC when we see cavalry versus 1200 when we didn't see them in warfare. I have not heard of any such findings.A more compelling case is that the introduction of bronze bits allowed you to make snaffle bits https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snaffle_bit that the horse cannot break or reposition in its mouth to be irrelevant. Previously they were bone/wood and could be broken or just not made in such a way that bronze ones can. And when bronze ones appear around 1200 or so it's pretty much immediately afterwards (possibly even right then and there in the collapse what with the collapse of records) that we start seeing cavalry appearing more and more.Without a good bit for the horse you aren't confident in your controlling. Possibly why while the Aramaeans and Neo-Hittites here are able to full on parthian shot in 860BC or so the Assyrians in contemporary art do their cuck-chair "One horseman holds the reins while the other shoots the bow".You can see why you'd be okay with a horse you can't 100% control to be a messenger who might engage in a light little skirmish (as we see in period art) but not be willing to go full on cavalryman.
>>220317721It's likely due to scarcity as well. A horse in combat can be easily killed and likely smaller ancient societies didn't have horses in abundance or bred on a scale that allows them to be used for warfare. They were likely used for immediate needs like keeping their society operating.Only when there's a surplus of resources can people even considering expending valuable livestock for such purposes.
>>220313613>because horses back then were too small to carry troopsremind me when horses suddenly became twice as big and muscular in the span of like a thousand years
I thought this movie was "what if Odyssey but rooted in reality" I guess that was bs huh?
>>220313335>>220313381you guys accidentally touched on what the biggest issue is with this movie (albeit it hasn't come out yet)If Nolan had decided to go full retard and accepted the fact that the story is mostly fictional and set in a mythologised era of the ancient world, he could've been fully created and created a totally unrealistic but ultimately creative and entertaining reimagining of ancient greece in a cool and aesthetic way. Inversely, he could've decided to go fully realistic, and have the film showcase a historically accurate depiction of the bronze age (something which has never really been done and is ripe with opportunity for creative innovation). But instead he strikes this pathetic middle ground where he acknowledges the presence of the gods, and has the film filled with retarded historically inaccurate and downright lazy stuff (like giving all the greeks generic classical-era armour which wouldn't exist for 1500 years) but also has the film be incredibly boring visually, grey in palate, and dry in execution. It's the worst of both worlds. Either commit to it being a total fantasy, or commit to making it realistic. Ultimately the biggest sin of this film, as far as I can tell from the trailers, is that it looks like it will be unbelievably dull, and that is the one cardinal sin which no movie can justify.
>>220313381Not defending this pile of shit but for a period, a wealth Hoplite could afford armour that would clad them suitably. This recreation of a Archaic Spartan panoply shows this.
>>220315971honestly this, I'm cool with inaccurate retrofuturistic armour, the problem is that the material makes it look like shite. Also it stands out (in a bad way) from all the other greek armour we see in the trailers.
>>220317963*could've been fully creative
>>220316118>>220316138>>220316149>>220316285Are you all retarded? The helmet is obviously not attached to the neck/shoulders? I knew contrarians were mostly sub 80 IQ jeets but goddamn.
>>220313305It’s a Big Guy.
>They can't even make fantasy Greek armor look the partWhen this shit flops, I will be celebrating.
>>220313305I’m less concerned about the armor than I am the fact that he appears to be wearing a form-fitting body stocking beneath it.
>>220313476>hey gronky generate batman as an ass creed odyssey character
>>220313476Is that a black person inside the armor? I cant tell
>>220318143That's Helen of Troy
This movie has too many red flags.
>>220313305Looks like a slay the spire reject
>>220313305Big guys are back on the menu
>>220314014Is Aiden Gillen in this movie?
>>220318016It legitimately looks even worse there wtf
Four yous incoming
>>220318266Sadly no, unless it's left as a surprise for us all by the meme-machine, Nolan.
>>220313305Anyone complaining about a lack of historical accuracy here is just being a disingenuous cocksucker and that the movie is meant to be mythic, not realistic.Also, OP and anyone else complaining about this, consider the following.....https://jumpshare.com/share/07QF8XQwqHQxzP6Wg0r0!!!FACT!!!
>>220318380This, I hope they include dragons and warriors ride zebras
>>220318412Yeah! Nolan should commit fully or not at all. No half measures.
>>220313335<--actual Greek armorThat shit in OP is fucking medieval-style armor roughly 1,500 years too early.
>>220318412>This, I hope they include dragons and warriors ride zebrasStop being a facetious cockslobbering faggot pretending that you care that it isn't historically accurate!!!FACT!!!
>>220315309>that*Who, actually. Beats being a fucking subliterate animal.
>>220316578Isn’t that kind of the story of moses and Joseph? In those stories a Jew is adopted by Egyptians years later saves his own people
>>220313305What are these guys actually meant to be?
>>220318476Tita
>>220318476nobody on planet earth would ever wear armor like that in the OP's image. well, maybe some dude literally cobbling together whatever random crap he can find in his shed would wear something like it, purely out of desperation. look at all the massive gaps in that thing. a bunch of the metal's only purpose seems to be to slow the wearer down.
>>220313335looks like some high school kid made it in his father garage for the drama club
>>220317963This. Nolan's "I use the latest IMAX camera + special lenses + propose theories of physics, space and time" deflect from his inability to imagine a self-contained world that also doesn't engage with reality in a more meaningful way. Oppenheimer feels like he watched Lean, Pomtemkin, 60s romantic affair movies and put them all in a blender with imax.
>>220314843yeah maybe we should put a Nissan into the movie while we at it. dumb fuck
>>220313798Take the L already, gay
>>220318626Laestrygonians
>>220313305Looks like some YouTube shit.
>>220318508Disregard this post, I suck cock
>>220313777is that vincent gallo
>>220313437Why would you use a full suit of armor when a a bow would fucking penetrate it and your weapon was a shitty little sword ?
>>220318720kek
>>220313305is this the new star wars movie? wheres yeed?
>>220314894yet elves aren't black, blackwasher
>>220316370lol
>>220315586It will always be a valid complaint, deal with it mongoloid leftardYou want blacks in fantasy? set your fantasy in africa using african folklore, blackwasher
>>220315971It's a shitty Agamemnon design however, he needs to have a beard since no other greek city king could take him seriously if he didn't
>>220313476is that clav?
>>220316038there are no non-white parts in this story, deal with italso all cast is awful
>>220313305isn't this the movie where they made helen of troy black?lol. lmao even. hollywood is a fucking joke. even christopher nolan nowadays. >die a hero or live long enough to become the villain
>>220318380the problem isn't that it's historically inaccurate you disingenuous cuck. It's that it's historically inaccuratee and yet insists on looking BORING AS FUCK. Being historically inaccurate should mean you, as a filmmaker with near total creative control of the film's production, should be taking every possible opportunity to be surreal, visually striking, and creative in the execution of the story and the representation of your setting. And yet everything we've seen so far from the trailers is either mind numbingly boring and drab or worse, goofy and cheap, e.g. >>220318350>>220313476. In both of these cases the issue isn't that the armour is unrealistic, that's totally fine, it's that it looks like SHIT.
>>220318016those dudes might as well be from the Dunc movies
>>220318653Yeah, clearly that could would've preferred to wear his kevlar armor
>>220313305>>220313381>>220313335>>220313476>Batman: Ancient Greece or Batman: Mythos or Batman: OdysseySteal it, Nolan.
>>220313305It's ok, guys, here is the real trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM-TuFkUXEA
>>220313305Nolan knows suits. It's why all his characters wear one. This has no suits so he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing.
