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Does Spider-Man work better as his own thing rather than as part of the avengers ?
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>>220332193
so does batman
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Avengers Spider-Man is like the kid superhero. Sort of insecure and needs other people to help guide him. Alot of people like Holland Peter, other people felt betrayed. It depends on who you ask.
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>>220332193
I saw and enjoyed the Andrew Garfield Spidermans even if they're not as good as Toby MacGuire.

To this day I still haven't seen a single Tom Holland Spiderman. The trailer had me excited, but when I saw Dr Strange and multiverse shit, I immediately lost all interest.
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>>220332193
He works best as Tobey McGuire
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>>220332671
Same, it just looks like a video game. No gravitas
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>>220332193
Yes but he needs more villains
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>no miles
>more original villains
>no avenger mentor
1/3 ain’t bad
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Absolutely. Spider-Man was a solo hero for 40 years worth of comics. Sure he always had a lot of team-ups, but he wasn't even in the Avengers until the 2000s.
That said it's not a bad thing if he happens to be in the Avengers, as long as he still has his solo stories.
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>introduced as a cameo on another movie
>no backstory
>his movies are only ads for other heroes
>all his movies are "le quirky and useless young boy who learns his lesson at the end of the movie"
>no depth
>no character growth so far
boring
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>>220333831
that red and black suit is kinda nice though, no?
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Holland Spiderman is dogshit
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Superhero is nonsense bullshit and so on, but EVERY ONE OF THEM works best as its own thing and in a contained universe in which they are the one and only hope.

It makes no sense for Spiderman to kick street goons in NY while aliens are using magic to burst through other universes or whatever. If the things in the Marvel universe were real, all of these characters would be tossed out and all of the tech. An army of soldiers equipped with super serum, hulk gamma power, wakanda vibranium ironman armor infused with asgardiang magic and extract from the radioactive spider that bit Spiderman.
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He works best with other NY characters.
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>>220332193
Yes. No "spider family" crap either (Aunt May is acceptable).
Same goes for Batman, just him and Alfred.
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>>220332681
This. He's not spider-boy. The Rami movie were perfect casting.
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Holland just doesn't work hes such a little fruit
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>>220332193
Generally yes.



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