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"The Southern Cross", ep 8 recap:
>Jess turns into a nurse and helps Matt after getting shot in the leg
>Karen's trial begins and Matt plays video of the first mate's testimony
>Matt brings Fisk to the stand and gets fisk to chimp out
>Matt outs himself as DD
>The assassin Fisk hired to take out Matt got mogged and killed by bullseye. Bullseye shoots Buck. all hell breaks loose and peoplel scatter
>fisk, buck, heather, the prosecutor, the avtf all run back into the court house. karen, jess, matt, ny governor, kirstin hide out in an office.
>Protest led by officer mahoney, cherry, white tiger,
>Powell orders Cole North to shoot into protest crowd, he hesitates but strikes Powell in the head knocking him out
>Protestors go inside the courthouse. Fisk hallways scene beating up angry citizens.
>Fisk eventually outnumbered but Matt saves Fisk to stop him from being a martyr
>Matt tells Fisk he can either take the deal and be free just not in the US, or he can be in prison for life. He chooses Freedom and goes to his island.
>Matt gets arrested
>Luke Cage comes back from his overseas trip
>BB Urich now works at the Bulletin
>Charles hired Dex and is bringing him overseas
>Heather puts on the muse mask
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>>220334395
Episode
https://gofile.io/d/q86JpT
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i think its cringe that they didn't tell us where bullseye was flying to
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i cant believe i let shills convince me this would be any better than season 1
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>chadexter gets happy ending
based. Hope marvel won't waste him. I want to see him in something like thunderbolts
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I love how buck/daniel had 30% of the screentime without directly interacting with any of the main cast
>yo mom im on the new daredevil show!
>cool did you get to meet the famous actor?
>...no
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Fuck evil women
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>powerll is still not dead
Come on, i was waiting entire season for it. At least let matt brutally beat him in prison in season 3
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The courtroom scene recapping what happened the entire season (which was not much) was pretty lame
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>>220334659
h-hot
I was waiting for an angry lesbian kiss
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>>220334671
>Officer Powell!
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>>220334659
I plan to.
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matt examining fisk was just about the only scene in two seasons of this show that could have remotely lived up to the netflix series and even then it was rushed because they were just too excited to blow their load on him coming out as daredevil (which wasnt really earned)

also, fucking lmao at
>well, well just throw the case out because the plot needs us to move on to other things. youre free to go karen
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>>220334782
>karen is free to go even though we have direct proof of her committing vigilante crimes
>but we arrest the blind guy who potentially could be the masked hero that we don't actually have a case against
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>im calling in the national guard, the literal US military branch, who dwarf the task force and are essentially the real-life deus ex machina who can make all of this go away
>nooo dont, we need to listen to fisks speech on tv
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where was my 5 minute uninterrupted no camera cuts fight scene in a hallway
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>>220334834
>but we arrest the blind guy who potentially could be the masked hero that we don't actually have a case against
this was so retarded. he showed that he can "see" or whatever by throwing and catching his cane and everyone was just like oh ok thats daredevil
is there not just a little bit of a leap from proving that hes not really inhibited by his blindness to proving he is specifically daredevil? in another setting fine but theyre literally in a court. what happened to beyond reasonable doubt kek
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>>220334863
they were trying to do one of those this episode, but they were too short with too many cuts
It would've been the perfect time to do one with Kingpin, but they cut around a lot
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was kingpins speech supposed to be jan 6 lmao
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>>220334863
They did a no cut fight in episode 3
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>>220334895
woke jan 6
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>>220334834
>>220334870
karens trial/fisks examination should have been the penultimate episode and the finale should have been matt on trial
while were fixing things, everything with the "muh citys picking sides" should have been cut entirely
(really everything about fisk being mayor in the public eye throughout this series doesnt work because he was jailed for corruption twice already and lacks the charisma to win the public over in the first place, and its new york not fucking alabama or somewhere where he could coast on vague "cleaning up the city" policies)
also fisks needs to go scorched earth basically as soon as vanessa dies, not after hes already fucked. have him lose his shit ahead of time and everything that happens in the last few episodes is basically a blaze of glory as the governor is closing in on him. and if his screws are coming loose he can have a kino confession on the stand when matts examining him a la few good men
lastly, and this is the most important part, heather and karen should make out
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>>220334626
really think he would be perfect for something like thunderbolts
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>>220334738
Should kingpin rape matt to heal him from being daredevil?
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>>220335036
>city picking sides
It feels so fucking forced everytime bb stuff shows up
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>>220335094
i didnt mind bb herself but her edgy videos were retarded. especially this episodes "epic reveal" that it was her. waste of a character, especially considering most of the supporting cast got better this season and she got worse. probably a vestigial leftover from the original version of season 1 that they didnt know what to do with
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watching the final conversation between matt and fisk here vs in netflix s3 is night and day. i dont even think itd be out of the question for matt to get from there to here on paper, but it comes completely out of nowhere for the matt weve been shown. its like they decided they wnated that ending and then completely forgot to give matt an arc that got him to that point. same with him revelaing himself as dd
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>>220335119
Genuinely have no idea why they decided to do the whole zoomer edited viral video stuff instead of her trying to follow her uncle's footsteps by becoming a real journalist
Instead
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>>220335160
iirc at the end of season 1 she said something along the lines of
>not everything i write is under my name
implying she did actual journalism under a pseudonym beyond her tiktok videos
but then i guess this season it was revealed her secret journalism was just more tiktok videos with flashier editing
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>>220327835
HAHA YEAH me too
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damn jess and lukes kid is on some advanced lego shit
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fiver says they have karen get with frank while matts in jail during his tv movie thing to create some drama
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so no bullseye in season 3?
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they needed DD to be in prison as an explanation to why he's not in spider man
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>>220335249
i was building lego like that at that age. based on this we can assume jessica and lukes daughter is massively autistic
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WHEN I WAS A BOY
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>>220335588
But we literally see spider man fighting hand mobs in prison
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>>220335678
Would you rather see her being glued to ipad?
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ANYONE who would rank either BA season over any of the OG is a soulless, tasteless shill.
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>>220336104
there are certain individual BA episodes that are better than certain individual episodes of specifically netflix season 2. thats as much as ill cede. ranking seasons as a whole is:
netflix s3 > netflix s1 > power gap > netflix s2 > ba s2 > power gap > ba s1
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>>220326873
i was saying that from the start, even the "good" episodes of season 1 were shit compared to netflix and fundamentally misunderstood matts character. the fucking she hulk show characterised him better than born again
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>>220334627
buck has a handful of scenes with matt in season 1
>there when matt/fisk plan the diner meeting
>visits his house to invite heather to the gala
>gala scene
>hospital scene where buck turns off the electricity in the city to kill matt in the hospital bed
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>>220336104
netflix s1
netflix s3
any bullseye focused born again episode from either season
netflix s2
born again s1
born again s2
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>>220336815
if youre making bullseye BA separate from the rest then netflix s2 should be split into punisher and non punisher
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>>220336836
i did originally do that and then i realized i liked the bullseye parts more than netflix s2 punisher parts so the elektra/hand section was just a spot below them. at that point i just erased it since it felt dumb splitting them but being next to eachother in a ranking
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>kickstarts the show
>the only person to walk away from it achieving everything he set out to do
how does he do it
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>>220336878
fair enough. i broadly agree with your ranking except id swap s1 and s3 (though its a fine margin) >>220336120. i think to get into specifics of bullseye/non bullseye, punisher/non punisher etc. for me itd come down to ranking episode by episode, which i cba doing
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>>220336911
Ok I know charles is CIA but how did they let bullseye on a plane? He broke out of jail in 1x8 and is on the run after trying to assassinate the mayor and then tries to assassinate the mayor in 2x4, probably has an avtf kill count of 25 at this point, then kills the mayor's wife, then goes in hiding and is on the run again. then in 2x8 he shoots the mayor's right hand man. It's not like the plane they are on is a private jet, meaning he had to go through tsa....
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>>220336968
trivial for a glowie on shaggys level to get a fake passport
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>>220336911
I hope he won't get Taskmastered or job too much now that he's in the big leagues
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR6oHy2CG1o
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Big Willy annihilating those Daredevil cosplayers was so fucking sick
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>>220336911
>Responsible for the 2 biggest deaths of born again
>The best friend of the guy you killed turns into a cuck and saves your life TWICE
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I love Powells reaction to finding out matt is daredevil, he almost gets mad at himself for not finding that out on his own. Ironically he has probably talked to both personalities the most across the 2 seasons.
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>>220337103
because he’s the only one on the show who actually plays the long game instead of therapy-speedrunning his trauma every 3 episodes

>kills foggy
>kicks off matt’s crisis of faith 2.0
>exposes fisk
>exposes fisk AGAIN
>forces literally every faction to cannibalize itself

and then what does he do? doesn’t monologue. doesn’t cry. doesn’t get framed. doesn’t get redeemed.

he just gets on a plane.

the others are all driven by ego or guilt. dex is driven by pure professional spite. he doesn’t care about ruling the city or “saving” it. he just wants to prove he’s the best at what he does and burn down whoever lied to him. once he cashes that check, he’s out.

it’s poetic that the most deranged guy is also the only one with an exit strategy.
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boo
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So heather is 100% going to kill karen next season right?
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>>220337236
>it’s poetic that the most deranged guy is also the only one with an exit strategy.
He was also the only good thing in Born Again.
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>>220337421
hopefully, i'm tired of her
make her go after the muse and realize that she isn't made for this and get killed
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fucking retarded.
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>Fisk gets the book thrown at him (regardless if he took the deal he was still charged with the book)
>All of the AVTF are in jail (honestly this doesn't even make sense they could say they were victims of Powell and Fisk assuming they didn't kill any civilians)
>Buck is scot-free to do whatever he wants
How does he do it buckbros? I've never seen a side character with this much plot armor in my life.
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Fat Majin
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I do wish once matt showed his secret identity, it cut to different nyc heroes/villains watched the tv broadcast and seeing that news. Could it have killed Hailee Steinfeld, Flourance Pugh, Jon Bernthal, Benedict Wong, etc to put a green screen behind them and look at a tv for 3 seconds? A moment that big, even if I think it's unearned, should be seen by broader marvel characters that have a direct connection to NYC outside of the daredevil-verse.
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>>220337718
This is why I'll never be able to take MCU slop seriously. This whole thing is supposed to be an universe yet every show is basically its own thing. But they also can't deviate from the timeline so the shows are really restricted and shittier
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>elektra actress posted on instagram that she is in nyc
>born again s3 started filming like 2-3 weeks ago
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>no Spiderman cameo
FUCK YOU
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>>220334395
I was so happy when Fisk started bashing in protesters heads and they stated running like roaches. I do not know why but no matter the cause I have hard time empathizing with protesters, they all just seem like insufferable cunts.

>The assassin Fisk hired to take out Matt got mogged and killed by bullseye. Bullseye shoots Buck. all hell breaks loose and peoplel scatter
That whole thing felt like an add on. like in the original script Fisk locked things down because he did not like the verdict.
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>>220338259
yeah, the bullseye aspect of the finale felt like a relatively contrived way to A) have bullseye appear and B) cause things to boil over. neither fisks plan nor bullseye shooting buck and dipping makes much sense
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What did renouncing his citizenship have to do with anything. Do we not punish non citizens?
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>>220338253
>>220337718
100% agree
having small cameos from them would make thee world feel way more connected
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>>220338295
Trump cucked out on that with revoking Magnitsky on a brazillian narco judge so now the only way to punish people outside is extraditing or taking them when theyre found guilty in american courts
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>BOO!
How do you respond without souding mad?
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bzzzt bzzzzzzzzzzzt bzzzt
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>>220337421
>So heather is 100% going to kill karen next season right?
Hopefully they take each other out in the first minutes of the next season, right after they scissor me timbers. I can't take new muse seriously.
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>>220338537
How do the showrunners expect me to believe no one there had a gun or a knife or a molotov?
I know its NYC but come on
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>>220338828
They were mostly peaceful protesters.
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So Luke stopped being the King of Harlem? Hope they go more into what his ass has been doing since then.
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>>220338902
I knew it was him the moment i saw the little black girl but it was cemented even more when he wasnt present
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>they had to make all the protestors men because they didn't want fisk beating up women
kek
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>>220338990
and don't forget how the one task force guy who turned out good was black
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they should have had the task force shoot cherry before turning on each other. his character has no reason to exist
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dumb question but when matt comes out of jail he won't be allowed to be a lawyer right? i'm assuming getting thrown in prison revokes any professional legal standing
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>>220339065
fisk killed 10 people and his punishment was that he cant visit nyc
dont treat it as realistic
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>>220338990
are you blind? you literally had a woman going "please no" only for him to backhand her into a wall.
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>>220339065
It's harder than you think to get disbarred. Unless he committed a crime that would affect his ability to represent clients, like stealing money from said clients or committing fraud, he'd probably be fine.
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>>220334395
Fisk won

He gets to live out his retirement in peace in a sunny beach

Matt is getting assraped in prison
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>>220339065
>>220339135
bear in mind crime has been legal in the USA since november 5 2024
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>>220339154
that's hell for fisk, even prison is better since he can rule it what the fuck is he gonna do on a beach without vanessa
he's like those boomers that can't stop working otherwise they feel awful
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>>220339135
I think the bar could reject you for damaging the reputation of the profession and other such things. In some states any felony is auto disbarment.
I have a license to practice law and it expired due to me not having used it in 7 years so it would be baffling if Matt could practice while I have to retake the exam.
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How would Foggy have reacted to the courtroom reveal?
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>>220339238
That's completely different though, if you haven't used it in 7 years then that means you most likely forgot everything
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>>220339221
He can start a new criminal empire in another country. because he is free and has enough seed capital
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>>220339154
>Fisk won
how?
>Wife is dead
>Lost all assets
>Lost citizenship
>You're on your own personal island alone with nothing but your thoughts
>After trying to kill Matt and Bullseye numerous times, both live
>After trying to arrest Karen, she wins her case
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>>220339260
That is very subjective. Look at matt. How often do you think he has been in a court of law in the last 7 years? its a technicality because I would literally only need to touch 1 case per x years. On paper there is no difference between someone taking 10 cases a month vs 1 case a year. I would not even have to take the case myself. could just write myself in as a co-counsel and show up to a hearing once.
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>>220339238
He was practicing in New York though, and IIRC you can have a felony there and still practice law as long as you haven't committed a crime of moral turpitude, which I believe they define as theft, fraud, or straight up murder. He might be okay as long as no one finds out that he tossed Nobu in the rice cooker.
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>>220334395
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>>220339360
New york is one of the places with auto disbarment. Also when he is being arrested assault and attempted murder are first 2 things mentioned. If they let him practice it will be by some bs like public opinion overruling the law
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>>220339467
>New york is one of the places with auto disbarment
Are you telling me that the lawyer I spoke with years ago... lied? This is inconceivable. I'm disbarring you from this thread.
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>>220339506
What of grace?
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>>220339532
You don't get to offer that to me.
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>Fake bullseye has a more vibrant purple, comic accurate costume, even the forehead logo is more visible
>gets insta killed off, you never get a clear view of him
>never adressed again
why??????
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>>220339562
Trust me, she is quite skilled.
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>>220339586
Because he was a poser-ass bitch.
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>>220339599
You don't get to bring friends.
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>>220334395
it's such a depressing series.
everyone is mopey and pathetic, even midget kingpin.
there isn't a single likeable character in it
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born again:
s1 matt > s2 matt
s2 supporting cast > s1 supporting cast
s1 bullseye = s2 bullseye, both are great
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>>220339154
the things he loves most, vanessa and NYC are both gone from him. You may view it as him winning but he definitely feels as though he lost, which is why he took so long to accept the deal
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>>220339752
>there isn't a single likeable character in it
if bullseye wasn't in the show, you'd be right
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>>220339752
>anon wants a 66 year old to ruin his health and become obese, adding +75 pounds for 'le comic accuracy'
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>>220336911
Rooh rooh, Shaggy
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>>220338537
>COME ON, FAT MAN
Go for the knees
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>>220334395
Any webm requests?
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>>220334525
Its probably wakanda
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>>220335249
CIA pays good money
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>>220339065
I believe he will lose his license but can probably try to get another one after he finishes his sentence
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>>220339430
What did he mean by this?
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>>220340387
mike ross did this in suits and im pretty sure its a 100% factually accurate portrayal of how the law works
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>>220340241
Kingpin trashing the people in hallways.
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I'm still waiting for the Kingpin Troon arc now that his wife died.
>when I was a boy...
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>>220334395
why did he get arrested
why isn't spider-man in prison
or jessica
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>>220340802
no one knows who spiderman is and jessica is in hiding. They arrested him for his crimes.
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>>220340563
1/2
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>>220340932
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>>220340932
dude you need to fix your aspect ratio, get webm for lazys and crop it so the black bars aren't seen
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>>220340802
>jessica employed by the governor since she's her body guard
>nobody knows spider-man anymore
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>>220340932
>>220340954
Nothing brings me more joy than seeing this dude rampage
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>>220340973
>get webm for lazys and crop it so the black bars aren't seen
Can it handle subtitles though?
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>>220340954
to a dude that said there were no women. Here is the woman. Kind of wish he crushed the DD mask under his foot. That and when he was coming down the stairs I wish he had hoisted someone over his head and threw them into the crowed below.
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>>220341209
>I wish he had hoisted someone over his head and threw them into the crowed below
I was waiting for that. He knocked some over the side but it's not the same.
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>>220341094
yes
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>>220338902
He was working with Charles as a enforcer in exchange for Jess and their mutt babys safety they literally say it
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>>220336104
I hate OG Season 2, they gave us an incredible first 4 episodes of Frank Castle and then the rest of the season goes on autopilot and waste him aside from 1 or 2 scenes.
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>>220336104
very true
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>>220336968
He's CIA now, bro. All he did was killing dangerous terrorists in hindsight.
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This is in the marvel universe, so why hasn’t any big events been mentioned or made relevant at all?
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>>220341689
because that is not the story they wish to tell. Those events are very big and if every show had to mention them then they would all be about the same thing. Like every post snap show would be about how the snap effected people the same way everyones life was like after ww2.
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>>220341443
Yeah but I obviously want details.
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Which of Peter Parker's friends were at the Daredevil riots?
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Did the psychiatrist ex know that Matt was Daredevil?
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>>220337571
What can they even charge Buck with? The dude left no evidence of his crimes and by all accounts he is just Fisk’s bodyguard/secretary
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>>220341932
probably suspected, but didnt know for certain, unless one of fisks team told her off camera
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>>220341986
was not he in the room that time when powell was receiving orders to do something illegal? If powell talks there might be something there.
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>>220339262
Fisk was a New York autist he loves the city more than he loves his chicken nuggies. And even worse, he lost Vanesa the only thing he was more obsessed about than New York. Dude is mentally fucked.
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>>220335094
BB can edit videos really fucking fast
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>Glorifying January 6th, showing red-hat wearing protestors storming a government building
>Daredevil goes to prison with criminals and AVT guys who hate him and will probably rape his ass on the daily
>Dexter and Fisk get to ride off into the sunset
Woah
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>>220341932
IIRC she was shocked and/or embarrassed that she did not know earlier
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looking forward to his banter with Matt next season
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>>220335127
You always do this, you're always misinterpreting what acting is. Gesticulating or yelling is not bad acting, it depends on the situation.
Go treat your autism and stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>220342055
>was not he in the room that time when powell was receiving orders to do something illegal? If powell talks there might be something there.
i cant speak to murica or new york specifically (i did a year upstate on an exchange program but that was ages ago and i forget most of it) but generally theres not an obligation to step in if you see something illegal happening. as long as buck wasnt the one giving the orders i dont think they could get him just for being nearby when it happened. take that with a grain of salt though my memories of the law world are fairly distant
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>>220341443
Xavier? I thought he only fucked mutant twinks.
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>>220340932
Fix.
Your fucking.
Aspect ratio.
Retard.
Stop uploading your garbage webms.
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>Fisk kills like a dozen people in the courthouse
>Not to mention how many have died due to his reign as Mayor
>Matt not only saves him from the justifiably angry mob of New Yorkers who have been crushed under Fisks boot but lets him get away with everything
What a fucking awful ending holy shit. Fisk being torn apart by random New Yorkers would be an extremely fitting end to his story as a very clear representation of NYs rejection of him AND it would keep Matts hands clean.
Now not only are we going to suffer more of the same bullshit with Fisk but literally every single person he kills going forward is (once again) on Matt.
Fucking hell Buck and ICE agent guy didn't even get real comeuppance and Matthew Lillards character got away scotfree with Bullseye. Villains were eaten good this finale and im not happy about it.
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>>220340241
Karen's ass
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>>220343039
Any episode or timestamp, I don't think they really showed her ass much
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>>220342886
yes only specific jobs expect you to speak up and his is not one of them. It's more about how fisk could not do some of his crimes without buck and once you have that implication and start investigating you can not only charge him as an accessory to a crime but tracking phone gps, street cameras,etc you could likely find both the body he burred with daniel but also daniel's body. BB could also join in since she would notice daniel is missing and from her last conversation could testify about how daniel was afraid of buck and how buck had asked him to walk her into a trap.
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>>220342962
I don't like the webms but guy provided them for free. he is trying his best for his friends on 4chan. let it slide and make your own. Im sure they could also be HD and have sound. have seen it done before.Hell people have put in whole movies.
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>>220343055
Previous episode when she was walking up the court steps
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>>220343039
deborah woll can be so hot when she wants to but she so often plays retarded women.
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Karen actress is 41? How did she avoid the wall? I thought she was like late twenties
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>>220343100
Shut the fuck up and use the correct aspect ratio. Nobody needs or wants your stretched shit. Also fuck you.
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>>220343143
steamy DnD seshes
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This feels like Arrow all over again.
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>>220335038
Everyone in MCU Thunderbolts is a nice person who fell into bad circumstances, while Dex was always a psycho. He wouldn't fit.

Which would make it great to watch, with competent writing, which is unlikely.
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>>220335678
Didn't you see her pick up the bomb and play around with it all over the living room?
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>>220339262
Maybe he can start building a collider
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>>220339262
He can get back into his work relationship with The Hand.
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>>220334525
They probably don't have a clue what they'll do for season 3, so they had to leave loose ends.
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>>220334747
She is crazy hot.
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>>220334659
Buck will.
He survived right?
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>>220339262
>another country
Sokovia or Latveria?
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extremely hamfisted sequence of cops and cop lovers posting up in the courthouse while new yorkers get out their daredevil costumes they just have on hand and form a thousands-strong mob in the space of maybe half an hour
>matt, speaking aloud for the benefit of viewers not looking up from tiktok and summarising the "symbolism", if it can be called that, for those who are watching but are too retarded to get it: "the city is picking sides"
everyone who said this series was even close to the netflix series in quality should lose their fucking job
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>>220344648
whoops i forgot to greentext the first line but you get my point
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>>220344432
No body=not dead
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>>220340932
>not a single protestor has a knife or a gun
Who wrote this
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mommy mommy mommy
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>>220343140
Not sure why she loves being all street and shit like they could put her in nice dresses and actually not the least feminine jeans and tops. Zoomers minds would be blown if they ever put her into sexy clothes her body's location is more forgotten then then Ark of the Covenants.
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>>220344882
oops

>>220344763
maybe its a forgotten thing that New York had a gun ban or something, like I mean forgot to add the line in there. Nobody else had a gun except the police. I seriously want to ask if they just forgot to explain they made NYC a gun banned zone.
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>>220334395
I get wanting not to "shill" but you guys are so insufferable sometimes. This episode was just wall to wall kino shut up assholes. The show also delivered giving us two new characters who are fucking amazing in Bullseye and the crazy vigilante lawyer bitch. Bullseye deciding to kill the shooter guy was nice. All the courtroom stuff was kino, it feels good that we saw Karen chip in there and the "I AM DAREDEVIL" chills. Seeing Kingpin get to go on a murder spree was visceral and super exciting and raw. Luke Cage Season 3 confirmed, you gotta appreciate that maybe its predictable but still. Going out to a good Radiohead song and, Daredevil in Prison is always a promise of kino. The long shot of Fisk staring at the ocean and he looks super small was nice.

The show has a perfect setup to have another really interesting scenario, they might have a new character from a movie they could add adding that ally that can help Fisk get his revenge and shit whatever. I think they did this episode right and the entire show leaves Fisk all alone in the world with nobody left to moderate his behavior, it could be kino.
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>>220345172
>i have extremely low standards and love slop and you guys are contrarians for disagreeing
this thread is full of actual concrete arguments as to why the episode was bad. if you just want a hugbox maybe reddit is more your speed
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>>220345172
t. based slop enjoyer.
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>>220344362
they're already shooting season 3, so they do have a clue you fucking retard
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>>220334853
they didnt want the innocent citizens to start clashing with the national guard you retard, they say this explicitly and yet it still went over your head
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>>220334870
>>220334834
>>220334782
are you people retarded or something? Matt admitted to being daredevil and was literally maskless infront of a large group of people during the final Fisk confrontation. He explicitly broke the law multiple times before the Safer Street laws were put in place, meanwhile Karen only broke the law in relation to the Safer Street Initiative, which that court specifically could not legally try because Fisk--the guy who assembled said court and put in place said laws--broke the laws himself.

Its crazy how stupid /tv/ posters are. Like this isn't even hard to follow yet it somehow goes over your heads. Dumb chimps.
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>>220342803
I imagine he felt better about himself when Matt did the reveal, now knowing he didn't get the shit beat out of him by a blind man curiously good at fighting, but by a metahuman vigilante.
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>>220345172
I liked the episode, I think it was the first time when I didn't check my second monitor while watching it out of boredom. If people complain about Fisks ending then they just didn't pay attention
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>>220345832
>Matt admitted to being daredevil and was literally maskless infront of a large group of people during the final Fisk confrontation
yes, *after* the trial. karen being acquitted was based solely on matt claiming he was daredevil, before anything you mention. i think the retarded one here is you
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>>220337571
He'll have to suffer Heather, and that's almost punishment enough
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>>220338990
he beat up multiple women, you're incredibly retarded and quick to victimize yourself. very pathetic
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>>220339083
his punishment was revoking his citizenship, he got banished like Napoleon. It was also to save the AG from having to go to trial and expose that the CIA was working with Fisk, which would have been a huge embarassment to the government.
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>>220345832
>He explicitly broke the law multiple times before the Safer Street laws were put in place
Cool. Prove it.
Prove it was the blind guy under the mask, attached to crimes that in most cases, multiple years old with no witnesses (aside from career criminals)
Apparently it is hard to follow, for your dumb ass.
They can't end the season by saying "Damn, this court actually IS a corrupt circus, we need to change things!" and then follow it immediately with an epilogue where matt is arrested for vague charges
Attempted murder? Of fucking whom?
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>>220338537
;_;)
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>>220343007
How are you this media illiterate? The entire point of Matt exposing Kingpin in the courtroom was that in order for The System to survive after someone like Fisk intentionally subverts and weakens it is to have Fisk be defeated by The System. Having Fisk killed would make him a martyr (they say this multiple times in the season) and would prove him right about vigilantes. In order to defeat Fisk ideologically, he had to be brought to justice in some legal fashion and not turned into a martyr.

It's honestly insane how stupid people like you are. You are the reason they have to have exposition dumps in movies.
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>>220345880
>yes, *after* the trial.
In which tons of witnesses saw him do Daredevil shit

>karen being acquitted was based solely on matt claiming he was daredevil
not really, it was more based of how Fisk reacted and what he said after Matt admitted to being daredevil. He essentially admitted that he had been running guns through the port. Sucks you are so stupid bro, I'll pray for you.
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>>220346147
>he murders like 10 people
>no consequences despite the point being him facing consequences for arms smuggling and illegal detainment of citizens
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>>220346078
>Cool. Prove it.
Thats why they arrested him so they can put him on trial to do that. You do know that people get arrested BEFORE a trial right? And are often held in prison if they could potentially be a danger to others? God, you really are retarded. Pretty sad.
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>>220346195
the consequences are are him losing his citizenship and being banished from New York and America. The AG wants to avoid a trial because then it becomes public knowledge the CIA was working with Fisk which would be incredibly embarassing for the government (especially after the Hydra fiasco).

Just like use your brain for 2 seconds my dude. Maybe one day you'll stop embarassing yourself so much.
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>>220346205
You know they don't arrest people if they can't fucking prove anything, right? A judge specifically has to sign off on an arrested warrant, and will do so after evidence has been presented.
There would no real evidence of Matt doing anything, in some cases due to the statute of limitations on how long ago the netflix era took place, but also because all his recent activity has been working against the AVTF, which as this point has clearly been ruled unconstitutional given we fucking see the highest ranking members IN PRISON, meaning everything they fucking did, including all the "evidence" they gathered, would thrown out.
There is nothing to arrest Matt for.
Realistically, he could sue the city for having been shot by the previously sanctioned criminal behavior of the AVTF.
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>>220346243
mommy mommy mommy
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>>220346280
>You know they don't arrest people if they can't fucking prove anything, right?
Having a public confession from someone, who then does an action to support his confession, who is then seen doing the very thing he confessed to by a bunch of witnesses right after his confession, is more than enough evidence to arrest someone to stand trial.

You are genuinely retarded. I feel bad for anyone who has to spend time with you IRL.
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>>220346280
>arrested warrant
>which as this point
lmao dumbass
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>>220339130
>>220346010
>she
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>>220346308
>public confession
You seem to really think this matter. It doesn't.
There'd be no way to prove any of it, there is literally no proof of Matt being Daredevil other than him saying he is, and coincidentally being seen in the costume 5 minutes later (while limping around like a retard and performing at below average skill level)
You're who these dumbass writers want watching the show
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>>220346383
>there is literally no proof of Matt being Daredevil other than him saying he is
there is plenty of proof, like evidence from every single incident Daredevil was involved in, which im sure they will bring up at his trial. You are making things up in your head like some kind of schizo. Don't bother replying, im leaving this thread. Have fun being stupid.
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>>220346308
my original point was about karen being acquitted, and that alone. im fine with an implied investigation and trial occurring off screen between the events of most of the episode and the final shot of matt in jail. im just talking about karen being acquitted.
heres what happens:
>matt says hes daredevil and can corroborate fisk moving arms
>to back this up, he throws his cane and catches it, demonstrating greater dexterity than youd expect from a blind man
>fisk says some "when i was a boy" shit
>matt says the case should be thrown out because the court and all the witnesses are on fisks payroll (not relevant to him being daredevil at all btw)
>the judge accepts this and dismisses the case
not one single fact here is corroborated, let alone proven beyond reasonable doubt. the northern star angle is the only one where an attempt was made, and even then corroboration hinges on matt actually being dd, which itself is unconfirmed *at that point*
turning around to the judge and saying the case should be thrown out because everyone is on fisks payroll is at best a circumstantial argument irrelevant to any of the arguments being made prior to that point, and at worst is contempt of court because youre telling the judge to her face shes corrupt

karen was acquitted because the plot needed her to be in order to move on to the shooting scene. nothing that happened as part of that trial made an ounce of sense. thats all my point was. if you want to conflate me with the other anon and argue more about matt being jailed, go ahead, but i wont respond because i do not care
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So Spider-Man's gonna bust him out right?
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Absolute slop. Cant believe I am saying this but the grifters were correct about Disney and the stans.
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>>220346451
>there is plenty of proof, like evidence from every single incident Daredevil was involved in,
Such as?
Name one and how anyone would prove it even happened, and remember, again, that the AVTF stuff wouldn't count.
Remember, Daredevil primarily beats up criminal thugs in back alleys and on docks, and for a little while ninjas. Now provide proof any of that even happened, and that it was daredevil, and that it was Matt Murdock.
And also the statute of limitations on Ag Assault in New York is five years. So actually everything from the Netflix era is void.
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>>220346540
People still say stans?
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I don't expect kino from Marvel these days but please give me a proper Thunderbolts or Dark Avengers
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>>220334782
>matt examining fisk
Dumb since Matt is a defence lawyer and Fisk isn't on trial. The case is karen vs the state or whatever. The prosecutor is a moron for allowing this nonsense.
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>>220346583
I'm 90% certain criminal defence attorneys still get to call and examine witnesses
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>>220346532
Kek good edit but that image reminded me of how that episode was the only good one from Peacemaker s2
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>>220346669
Fisk is not a witness hes also not on trial. They turned Matt into a prosecutor. He also destroyed the evidence, the fucking idiot. The show is written for MCU bird-brained stans with no taste. Glad the viewership is in the toilet.
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>>220346788
DDBA is proper slop like McDonalds. It's trash but still tastes pretty good.
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still waiting for that gag to explain how matt could be arrested for fighting undead ninjas 8 years ago, and why only retards would be questioning the arrest
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>>220346243
Is she really going to be the new bloody burlap sack guy? How does that work?
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>>220346979
she knows how to fight now, suddenly
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>>220346788
>Fisk is not a witness hes also not on trial
Not only is he in the witness box and being treated as a witness, there is an entire conversation in the show about how they're going to call him as a witness. Look up from tiktok, zoomzoom
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>>220341783
>Those events are very big and if every show had to mention them then they would all be about the same thing.
Yeah, that would be good writing showing gravitas and continuity for what happens in this world instead of lazily hand-waving shit away with no consequences
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>>220347097
Just because the show says this doesnt mean it's correct. The video evidence would be thrown out since Fisk isn't on trial Karen is. Also Fisk crimes doesnt absolve Karen of guilt shes quite literaly an enemy of the state and a cop killer.
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>>220347209
The prosecution calling Heather to the stand and relying on her testimony that Karen is merely copying her close associate Daredevil opened the door to the credibility of Daredevil himself.
A judge COULD throw it out, but a sympathetic judge could allow it.
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>>220347264
Yeah the writing is bad, I don't agree with the premise. Karen is guilty of terrorism. There's literally nothing Matt can do. He should've kept her hidden and hired a DA to go after Fisk.
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>>220347209
>fisk is not a witness
>the show says he's a witness
>just because the show says he's a witness doesn't mean he's a witness
bait or mental retardation, call it
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>>220347321
the issue is the unlawful tactics of the AVTF muddying the waters, Fisk being unconstitutional, and main judge suddenly being willing to go out on a limb for the defense when she wasn't before, they did portray her as sympathetic but professional during the swordsman trial, but now she's just doing whatever out of nowhere, you could say it's the external factors at play but she didn't have any scenes where mind was changed
They could've tried all these vigilantes normally, without a private militia police force, the same way Punisher was on trial in season 2.
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>>220334395
I liked it, it was good.
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>>220336104
this >>220336120
and I'm glad they heard the fans about Bullseye
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>>220339262
he has been Napoleoned, anon
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Fisk murdering those civilians is me BTFOing every simp ITT
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>>220335696
>>220335588
Daredevil WILL be in Spider-Man: TND...
in the background on a TV screen with the news saying "Matt Murdock is Daredevil!!"
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Fucking dumb no prosecution would let the defence use that video tape pure slop.
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>>220347405
Season 1 and 3 already did this btw. kek

Matt, Foggy and Karen put in the work and got Fisk put away. Only for the hack writers to ruin everything for hype moments with no substance.
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>>220337718
that part
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>>220344472
he can go to madripoor and punch captain americas girlfriend in the cunt
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I just looked up Elektra’s actress and man time has not been kind. I’d rather not see her post wall and ruin my memories of when she was sexy
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>>220348119
she looks fine
way, way too thin, but other than that, she's fine
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Reminder that Born Again is not canon and Daredevil ended with the pure kino that is Season 3
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I still cum to the fact that Murdock was in the most kino MCU Spider-Man movie
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>>220348702
sometimes I think about how they could've put she-hulk in captain america 4 even just to get her ass beat by red-hulk as an establishing moment like what happened in the comics, and people would probably be begging to see her again because more people watched that flop movie than her show
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>>220348915
i like that idea
i really don't know why they don't have the tv characters in the movies, better than giving every hero a kid or a sidekick that has to be shilled
isn't feige supposed to be a fan?
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>>220348915
Brave New World being centered around two of Banner's biggest enemies and not having him appear at all is still mind numbling.
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>>220348982
there's still clearly some element of "who cares about these tv shows" going on
back during netflix that was basically a top level mandate and they were throwing some movie scraps to Agents of Shield like 3 or 4 times across the whole show
But even now with pieces of media that are designed to be in canon with each other, Wanda in Doctor Strange 2 was just off doing her own thing like the Wandavision shit where she was mind-raping and nearly killing a whole town wasn't that big of deal and the main thing was that she just wanted her kids back
And this is the same movie franchise where they put her on house arrest and told an invincible super android to detain if she tried to go get cigarettes or whatever because of the avengers treaty during civil war
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>>220349079
it's crazy going back to the tone of civil war (10 years ago already btw) and comparing it to what it's like now
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>>220349064
Makes me wonder who's doing the writing or planning all this stuff out. Are execs meddling because they don't want to pay Ruffalo or Universal? Is it a rights issue? There's so many simple things that they keep fumbling and I don't know why
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>>220346147
I get the point but it’s fucking dumb and proven wrong by the now 5 seasons of daredevil television. I refuse to believe sheep like you actually exist and you’re not just a bot/shill. Disgusting how far /tv/ has fallen.
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>>220349178
It's still the universal deal
They'd have to split the profit in a way similar to what they do with Sony and Spider-Man if they make a Hulk movie, but unlike Spider-Man it wouldn't be worth it financially so he just gets guest roles.
But Universal was apparently retarded because they didn't both to reserve the rights to any other Hulk shit the way Sony did with Spider-man side characters and villains, or Fox did with X-Men and X-men related characters, with Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver being exceptions because they were somehow in a grey area by being in more Avengers books than X-men or something like that
Fox also had the rights to Namor when they licensed the Fantastic Four, but they never did anything with him and they Disney got him when they bought Fox
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>>220338828
Those would have been ineffective on Fisk so they didn't bother
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>>220343007
this
WHY was he allowed to be free?
he IS A FUCKING MONSTER FOR FUCKS SAKE WHY
i love how matt NEVER shuts the fuck off about "i believe in the system" "we follow the system" then literally forgets about said laws when it is about kingpin
WHY? WHAT is his justification here?? Even Batman bullshit with saving Joker ass when they gave him the death penalty was justified because "uhh he was falsely accused", ok i get that Batman - BUT WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED HERE?
there is no gray lines - fish straight was a murderous monster IN FRONT OF CIVILIANS
where is this court, THE SYSTEM, you so speak for kingpin you dipshit??
kingpin should have been arrested right there. Where was the police anyway??

I swear Daredevil is far worse than Batman. Atleast we know Bruce is canonically mentally ill to an extent. We know that. But Matt here is supposed to be a fully functional member of society.. then he goes and defends shit like this

Matt gotta be the worst superhero ever. for real. none of his moral bullshit is justified. here he, "defender of the court and legal system" offered and allowed said system to turn a huge blind eye. What about the 100 people there? he himself straight up proved that his precious legal system is absolute bullshit
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Karen Daredevil or MCU Elektra?
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is powell dead yet
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Why would the CIA allow this go to court? Dont say Fisk has infinite power when he was blackmailed the entire season to smuggle the guns. The fuck is this plot man.
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>>220339135
A few years ago our local ambulance chasing tv lawyer was caught bribing and intimidating witnesses and he only had his license suspended for a year.
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>>220350490
he was doing that in boardwalk empire and that aired like 12 years ago.
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>>220346243
I can't fix her, but whatever the fuck is wrong with her is way hotter
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i love how somber, mature, gritty and realistic people, citizens are in this show, then you watch she hulk, miss marvel, etc literally any other mcu production and you see people all acting like idiiots, colorful cringe ass childish morons, throwing funny one-liners, comebacks, etc
all set in the same universe
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>>220351131
>when mommy puts on the mask
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>>220351173
I've jerked off to porn of Tatiana Maslany She-hulk so many times but I will never watch the show
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>>220346788
>The show is written for MCU bird-brained stans with no taste
Have you seen the stats on the demise of writers rooms? This might explain things.
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>>220351273
Every fucking popular show seems to be written by turds but the audience only seem to realise during the final seasons. It's really depressing but the chuds were right. Hollywood is dead.
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>>220334395
HEATHER IS SO FUCKING HOT
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>>220343508
Dark Avengers would be more accurate, although he's probably just doing wetworks for glowies
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>>220339154
>He gets to live out his retirement in peace in a sunny beach
fisk said he hates the beach, Matt won
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>>220339164
>I hate the feeling of sand between my toes
>I know love is a prison

Kino ending
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>>220342087
>>220347643
Fucking idiot. If he can smuggle people and weapons in NY, he can smuggle himself back in as well. His criminal career was thriving when he operated in the shadows.

Fisk should have ended up on the Raft, but we know they would never do that because they want to keep recycling the same story line.
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>>220351964
What exactly qualifies someone for the raft anyway? I don't know if the kingpin is supposed to be considered superhuman or just really fucking big
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>>220352067
Falcon and Hawkeye were on the Raft and neither of them are metas
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>>220352425
ant-man was there too and he's a normal guy without the grow juice capsules
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>>220334395
Do we actually get some cool fights or is it more soap opera trash?
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>>220352632
this was cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjjlNbWVkKw
but also there were no consequences for it
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>>220346532
He's still in prison in S3, so I think The Hand are just going to break in to try and assassinate Matt, and Spidey comes in to have his back.
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>>220342870
You clearly are stupid and have never seen good acting
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>>220337093
Same, I unironically wished we could've had more of that before the Talk no Jutsu kicked in.
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>>220350059
Why did you copy and paste some reddit post?
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>>220347177
More please, some with Karen too if possible.
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>>220353712
You don't even understand what acting is, or how different situations require different levels of intensity. Try shut the fuck up more often.
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>>220352425
Clint is debatable, depending on the version. Since movie avengers are loosely based on the ultimates, I'd say he counts.
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>>220341986
the doctor kill. fisk choked out vanessas doctor, who was the best doctor in nyc, how did buck "clean" that up did he carry the dead doctor on his shoulders through the hallway and lobby of the hospital? even then hospitals have cameras but my main point is that there were enough bystanders that would have seen something
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>>220337156
>Ironically he has probably talked to both personalities the most across the 2 seasons.
and that's the problem with this show. we know nothing about powell but he spends so much time with matt regardless if he is matt or dd
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>>220341513
1x8 he killed regular nypd cops, took the clothes off their dead body and their badge, used it to access the bus, regardless if he killed some avtf at the gala he still shot matt who is a civilian
>>220341932
not for certain
>>220344362
the script for s3 is all finished except the finale and they started filming the new season a month ago
>>220346578
i'd prefer a 50 min special presentation with him by himself just assassinating shit, than him teaming up with the big hero fags getting 5 mins of screentime
>>220350711
nope
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>>220353625
Spider-man will never be in any of the tv shows. The Hand will break DD out and we'll get DD running the Hand after Elektra returns. Charlie Cox has a big beard now like he does when he creates the Fist.
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>>220334395
I liked it
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>>220347177
>>220351452
sex with le evil woman
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>>220343508
He was in the Thunderbolts in the comics so anything is possible.
>>220351498
They could do Norman Osborn's Dark Avengers, but that ship seems to have sailed, and I don't know if Sony would allow it.
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>>220347177
Holy shit is this really her or AI
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so what happened to buck
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>>220356451
definitely still alive but I hate that they didn't do a mini time skip for him to show what he's up to post karen trial. if he died they would have shown him bleeding out, giving him last words, etc.
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>>220334659
The psychologist's arc was weird. She kills a guy and breaks up with her bf and suddenly she's this evil Fisk shill and has schizo moments in the mirror.
Karen's arc after killing Weasley was much better but it had more time to breathe i guess
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>>220335160
>her trying to follow her uncle's footsteps by becoming a real journalist
Also who the fuck reads local newspapers anymore except for maybe boomers collecting coupons
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Im sorry, what do people mean that Kingpin goes free to an island?
He doesn't get apprehended and judged or anything?
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>>220356451
I imagine hes solo and S3 will be about him being haunted by killing Daniel and his relationship with heather
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>>220356859
>Im sorry, what do people mean that Kingpin goes free to an island?
>He doesn't get apprehended and judged or anything?
AG gives him a deal, he can go into exile so he wont be prosecuted but he has to leave NY.
The point of the ending is that despite Matt being behind bars, he feels at peace while Kingpin feels like hes in prison despite being on an island
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seeing kingpin kill a bunch of tiktokers was the best part
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>>220355090
>i'd prefer a 50 min special presentation with him by himself just assassinating shit, than him teaming up with the big hero fags getting 5 mins of screentime
this, everyone itt saying they wished for more marvelslop crossovers and cameos is exactly why daredevil fucking sucks now
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>Kingpin raping citizens
>Homelander ???
I dropped the boys after season 3 when it started getting overtly political and adding more women characters that tv simp for
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>>220351173
notice how you only mentioned the womeme shows
almost like there's a pattern...
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>>220357271
I want both
bullseye is probably the best character in the show
I want him in the thunderbolts but I think the writers won't get him right like daredevil or he'd just be a backseat character so pig can get the shine when she therapies poindexter
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>>220334395
>pyramid song starts playing
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Longman told me this show's BAD, why is /tv/ watching it?
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>>220357819
these fags are cursed to hate everything after catering to the anti-woke boomer spergs who need to hear new thing bad or else they dont care
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>>220338828
>I know its NYC but come on
Didn't seem to matter with Luigi
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>>220339221
>he's like those boomers that can't stop working otherwise they feel awful
Except for these types "working" is farting in a chair, writing 2 misspelled emails and playing golf for 6h
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>>220358075
the show is bad whether you like mauler or not. karen being the live action mary jane from spiderman 2 game taking down people with stun guns, beating up trained guards, etc is retarded. bullseye is pretty good, but everyone else is a moron in this show. the fights are horribly choreographed and entire show written like its for people on their phones to look up and clap or nod their head before looking away again.
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>>220342402
>Glorifying January 6th
It's ok when they do it.
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>>220334395
The thing I can't get past is the constant attempt to pretend the NYPD wouldn't be 99% behind the Task Force goons. Every single cop I've ever seen or spoken to who works for one of the big municipal forces literally anywhere in the world fucking LOVES being a violent authoritarian dbag, and even most of the supposedly fluffy countryside cops will fucking salivate at the prospect of being drafted in to support the big forces during major protests so they can crack some skulls.

I could maybe, MAYBE accept that the mainstream cops would turn on Fisk if both he *and* the AVTF had gone on a killing spree at the courthouse against protestors, but the idea they'd be *leading* the protests is just fucking comical.

American shows are always so desperate to stick to the "bad apple" narrative and it's incredibly cringe. Show the reality - at best, most cops would keep their heads down and try to avoid getting directly involved, but plenty of them would be enthusiastic supporters and collaborators. It's especially dumb in the context of a show about fucking *vigilantism* and why that's necessary in the context of a corrupt and ineffectual legal system. If there was really some mass of "good cops" out there then Daredevil would never be needed in the first place.
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>>220358216
i was really hoping fisk would at least punch karen in the mouth while he was on his rampage
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>>220338259
>I do not know why
It's called being a sociopathic fascist. You personally can't fathom caring about another person enough to put yourself on the line for their safety or rights, or for a cause enough to risk your body in an attempt to strike down an evil foe, so all you can see in protestors IRL is a disruption to your selfish, small life and all you can see in them in fiction is your own cowardice and inhumanity.
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>>220343113
How can we know they didn't use a body double for this shot?
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>>220344763
It is NYC so not far fetched especially for anti Fisk protestors who would lean left
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>>220358216
It would be retarded if Karen couldn't defend herself at this point after the years of shit she's been though. I agree the choreography is a downgrade though, the Netflix show put a metric shit ton of work into it and the new guys are too lazy.
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Born Again doesn't mention that a whole bunch of the city got eaten by a sentient shadow that traumatised them with their worst fears. Ironically, helping the city rebuild after the events of Thunderbolts would have been the ONLY way to realistically have people willing to vote Fisk into power - but they fucking ignored it

They also ignore that they keep describing Bullseye and Muse as "vigilantes" even though they're not vigilantes

They also ignore that "vigilantes" have literally saved the world as well as restored half of the fucking universe back from the dead

The show is written by fucking morons
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>>220358414
nyc is liberal but not san francisco level liberal, and in a scenario where on top of the usual marvel new york danger factor of regular alien, wizard, etc. battles, theres a localised ICE militia disappearing people constantly, i think itd be insane if out of a crowd of 1000+ someone hadnt gotten a carry licence
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>>220358461
they desperately want to have their cake and eat it too with the show being part of the mcu so matt can show up in spider man or whatever for redditors to soiface at but also continuing on from the netflix series to bank on peoples goodwill towards it, and the reality is those two things are just fundamentally incompatible. for born again to make any degree of sense you have to just treat it as being in its own sectioned off universe, otherwise everything falls apart because it all comes back to
>why dont they just phone thor
the minute shit hits the fan
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>>220358414
>who would lean left
Oh like Pretti, the guy from Butler, the guy from the golf course, the guy from the corespondent dinner, the guy who shot Kirk? Yeah the left hates guns so much
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>>220358555
Talking about lefties in NYC
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>>220357819
I'm not saying this season's great, but anybody who says its worse than season 1 is fucking crazy. Season 1 literally had an episode where Kamala Khan's dad shows up and we have a diamond that makes a sparkling sound whenever it appears
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>>220359007
>Season 1 literally had an episode where Kamala Khan's dad shows up

That was one of the only good episodes though.
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>>220359640
I actually didn't mind that episode either



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