Rich is dead

retards still seething about it so many years later is proof of how right they were, if they were wrong you could just laugh it off and forget about them.

>Star Wars dies
>Let's blame the guys who made fun of it for that !!!
They should shit on it even harder

What difference would it have made? George made the original films and failed to recapture the same magic with his prequel films. He was so disillusioned by the reception to those he eventually sold the franchise. A completely different group of people tried to do something with Star Wars and also failed miserably.
The point is Star Wars has been dead for decades, people just keep trying to reanimate a corpse to no avail.

>>220337872
It didn't.

Autistic children that grew up with the prequels just got older and took personal offense to their favorite IP slop being criticized.

>>220337872
They got everything they wanted and Star Wars became much worse.

>>220337872
i cant believe that a couple of drunk fat mid-westerners was all it took to destroy a multi-billion dollar franchise.

>>220337872
people warmed up towards the prequels after witnessing what disney has been doing with star wars.

>>220337872
>>220338108
Star Wars died with ewoks. Star wars died back in 1983.

Alot of their criticisms fall last upon scrutiny. Like no MC's in episode 1.

That's like saying there's no MC in Ghostbusters or Jurrasic Park. The MC's are an ensemble. These boomers just talk out their ass

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>>220337872
Imagine caring what these fat old mouth breathers think.

>>220337872
But they were right about almost everything

>>220337872
It didn't. It's still spot on.

star trek fans are orders of magnitude more normal than SW cucks. all they do is debate episodes, seasons, captains, films, etc. and with fairly universal agreement.

compare that to SW fans.

>>220337872
The prequels are still shit

>>220337872
I saw the tweets about this and the conversation genuinely went:
>Tweet: RLM indirectly caused the rise of American Conservatism in the 2020s
>Reply: At the very least, the rise of nitpicking critics reviews
Unbelievably funny interaction to witness. Mike Stoklasa has no idea of his ability to create mass mindbreaking simply by existing.

report eceleb threads as off topic

>>220338582
pure cope.

>>220338157
>failed to recapture the same magic with his prequel films
Misapprehensions. Not what Lucas set out to do. Lucas knew there was no 'recapture' of that, nor is it possible, when the prequels follow a different story. They're two distinct halves of a whole. On the other hand, Disney set out to recapture the same magic through dumb retreading, and they fail to do so even in basic ways, but still they believed they captured it with ease, holding it hostage, reshaping it, subverting it to their warped ideological cause in order to subvert the audience, the true goal. Their witch-led council failed and everyone hates them.

>>220338473
>make JJ Abrams the director!

>>220337937
>retards still seething
You're just mad people remember the retarded things you said Mike.

>>220339142
It's funny how these threads always attract nu wars apologists doing the "the prequels were just as shit!" routine. It's been like a decade since TFA and nobody gives a fuck about those movies.

>>220337872
They weren't incorrect per se, just exceedingly pedantic. And like almost everyone at the time, they didn't realize how much worse it could be.

>>220339317
The prequels being shit has nothing to do with being "a nu wars apologist", retarded prequeltranny.

>>220339401
RLM being completely wrong about nu wars has nothing to do with you seething about the prequels.

>>220339401
*just as
The point is you mouse shills always try to act like they're the same so your failed attempts don't look quite as bad. Prequels have things people like and remember, the sequels don't.

Reminder that Jack Packard tried to shoot up the RLM warehouse. Police were called. I won't comment on it any further. There's at least one restraining order in play.

>>220337930
Again?

how many years has this rlm/prequel obsessed schizo been going now?

>>220338910
But what if conversely I don't care about what you think.

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Honestly, their opinions on Star Trek aren't much better. Watch their recent videos on DS9 and VOY. They both dislike Data and Worf, for instance.

>>220337872
>1500 likes at 600k views
lol prequeltards

I remember being bored with episode 2 as a kid because it was just dumb romance crap

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The prequels and the sequels are both bad and I'm tired of pretending this is some kind of badness contest where the badness of one set of films somehow redeems another. They're both very bad in very unique ways. The last genuinely good Star Wars movie was Empire Strikes Back.

>>220339709
It's what the "let's get girls into star wars" attempt should've been. The girl from Where the Heart Is and a model romancing for 2 hours. They should've just made a CW teen drama.

>>220337872
RLM built its brand off of hating George Lucas for stupid reasons like Senate scenes and a dumb comedic sidekick, implying that the Ewoks in ROTJ weren't just as dumb and insulting to the viewer's intelligence as JarJar.
Then when the sequels happened and achieved what RLM falsely claimed Lucas had- i.e. ruining Star Wars- RLM couldn't admit it. They went softball on the sequels which have unquestionably worse storytelling, characterization, and world-building than the prequels because they couldn't have Kathleen Kennedy replace Lucas as the Great Satan of Star Wars, as it would make the Plinkett reviews look dumb and petty in retrospect.
So instead of admitting that Disney ruined Star Wars, they just doubled down on the prequel hate and complained about Millennials liking them only because they were kids when they first saw them, apparently unaware that that's equally true of the OT, which was hated by older audiences but loved by Gen X'ers because they saw them as kids.

>>220337872
Trekkies in general have such bad takes on everything science fiction related it's actually shocking anyone still takes any of them serious, every time a Trek writer does anything for another SciFi franchise it ends up being some of the most hated content in that franchise, for a consistently and disproportionately amount of times. I don't know what's about what I would consider one of the most if not the most vanilla mainstream SciFi franchise that causes that phenomenon.

I'm actually not sure if AotC or TRoS is the worst Star Wars movie. I tend to give the nod to TRoS just because it will forever be the legacy of how the sequels ended, while the prequels at least got to slightly course correct with RotS, but if you view them entirely on their own they are both unbelievably fucking bad.

>>220339317
>nu wars apologists
I don't think these exist though, it's universally agreed that the shitquels are worse than the prequels now

>>220339896
AotC was kino, corny dialogue aside. It showed us what a proper "star war" looked like and spawned quite possibly the best video game of that decade with Republic Commando.

>>220339973
5 > 4 > 6 > 7 > 3 > 8 >1 > 2 > 9

>>220339838
you're not well.

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maybe you should form your own opinions instead of getting your opinion from a video, then realizing nearly 2 decades later you don't have that opinion anymore, then blaming the video (?) where people were just sharing their opinion

>>220339982
>flying R2D2
>ninja flipping yoda lightsaber fight
>at least 40% greenscreen cartoon battles that barely looked good at the time
>anakin and padme "romance"
it's worse than any of the sequels except TRoS

>>220339973
they don't exist, it's prequel schizo cope combined with PICK A SIDE autism, if you don't like the prequels you must be defending the sequels.

most people thought force awakens was fine as a new start, but the next two were recognised as bizarre clusterfucks from the start by anyone with a half a brain. and the prequels are still shit.

>>220340003
>8 >
LOL

How long until they blame them too for nu-Trek

>>220340085
TLJ is overhated.
90% of the clusterfuck of TRoS is directly the fault of the fanbase for overreacting to unforgiveable plot decisions like "Luke having a character arc" and forcing a catastrophic panic course correction into schlock.

>>220339838
seek help faggot

>>220340154
luke definitely wasn't the problem with the second movie, the retarded 'chase' the rebels were stuck in and the pointless casino/zoo sidequest were.

>>220340155
they influenced nothing, all they did was put into words what a lot of people felt about the prequels
everything regarding the sequels with jj abrams and whatever was going to happen regardless since abrams was an outspoken star wars fan and disney don't care about the property beyond making money

>>220340219
Finn's entire subplot in that movie was fucking terrible and could have been completely removed, but everyone wanted to bitch about the grumpy old Luke stuff which is actually the best part of the movie.

>>220337872
Because it’s hard to respect their opinions when it turns out they’re shills/retards. By all accounts the sequel trilogy and everything Disney has produced with Star Wars is significantly worse than the prequels. Yet they don’t think it’s as bad, and even like a lot of it. Idk how you can make those prequel reviews and then go on to make the types of reviews they made for tfa, tlj, or the acolyte. The only way it’s possible is if you’re a shill or retarded and it just makes you feel stupid for ever taking their opinions seriously before.

That’s why a lot of people unironically like the prequels now. Because they’re probably the same type of people who enjoyed the prequels before they say the RLM reviews, then disney wars came out and they saw how much worse it was than the prequels. Then they heard RLM talk about it and realized they’re retarded, stopped taking their opinions seriously, and began to enjoy the prequels again.

>>220337872
it didn't

>>220340316
>people like the prequels now because the sequels are bad
this is never going to be true no matter how many times you say it, the sequels were shit and the prequels are still shit.

>>220339838
Thanks to RLM, I now only appreciate the original Star Wars film and hate everything that came after. No big deal, space movies are for kids anyway.

How are RLM so powerful that their criticism videos literally ruined the popular perception of a beloved franchise full of classics and forced George to sell to Disney? Can they realistically be stopped?

>>220340394
Of course it’s true. Lots of people liked the prequels and never thought anything was wrong with them until they saw the RLM reviews. Those same people went on to see their reviews for disney wars and realized RLM is retarded and or shills. Do you take the opinions of retards/shills seriously? No, of course not, nobody does. Hence why they stopped taking RLMs opinion seriously and began to enjoy the prequels again.

To disagree with what I’m saying you’d have to think their reviews for disney wars was accurate. Which we know it’s not, they liked TFA (lol), they went easy on TLJ and TROS and refused to go after either of them they did with the prequels, they deflected with the acolyte. You can’t take those reviews seriously, they were terrible and not anywhere close to how they reviewed the prequels, so it makes you question their reviews retrospectively. So of course people would like the prequels again, RLM caused many people to dislike them in the first place.

>>220339436
Those aren't even your own hallucinations, you even outsource your imagination. Pathetic.

>>220337872
It didn't though?

>>220340489
How does one become as retarded as you?

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>>220337937
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>>220337872
Based

>>220340489
>Those same people went on to see their reviews for disney wars and realized RLM is retarded and or shills
TFA is the only one of those reviews that's positive. Do you just feel like that didn't lambast them hard enough or something? It's very clear they don't like nu-wars and they aren't remotely shilly about it.

>>220340553
What’s wrong with what I said? Do you think their disney wars reviews were accurate or as scathing as their prequel reviews? You’re just lying if you think the disney reviews are anywhere close to being on the same level as the prequel ones. So if we agree RLM proved their opinions unreliable when it comes to Star Wars, why wouldn’t people rethink their opinions on the prequels?

>>220337937
Spbp

>>220337872
>Why did RLMs commentary on Star Wars age so poorly?
It didn't. Star Wars is shit.

>>220340583
They went extremely easy on the TLJ and TROS because they’re shills. They liked TFA because they’re retarded. They went super easy on the acolyte and tried to deflect/avoid it because they’re retared shills. We all can agree their reviews for disney wars is nowhere near the level of their reviews for the prequels, so why?

>>220337937
They deserve ridicule for pretending to love the sequel trilogy. They even went out of their way to be political about it. Over a fucking Star Wars movie.

>>220340598
>their opinions are unreliable because they don’t 100% align with my personal opinions
You are retarded.

>>220340628
>they said the movies sucked and aren’t worth seeing but they didn’t say they’re the worst things ever so that means they are shills

>>220340450
Plinkett Review of TPM didn't come out until 2009. That's 10 years of people hating the prequels all on their own. TPM was a big disappointment to people who weren't kids at the time, getting jabs at being about long political talks and how annoying Jar Jar is. AotC got mocked for Yoda and the especially bad dialogue. RotS was generally better received, but lots of memes resulting from the lightsaber choreography between Anakin and Obi-wan, Vader screaming No, and of course the Backstroke of the West creating "Do not want." By this point you also had the The Clone Wars movie and first season of the show, both of which were terrible (The Clone Wars only started getting decent in the second half of the second season).

Plinkett just pointed out all the flaws in a consumable format; people were already tired of the PT on their own. And George giving up on new Star Wars and Indiana Jones films meant Lucasfilm was going to die under him eventually anyways and basically had to be sold to somebody interested in doing things with the properties (though obviously it didn't have to go to Disney in particular).

>>220340628
Okay, so it's not enough that they clearly don't think they're good movies and repeatedly said as much, they just weren't scathing enough to your satisfaction? Do you realize this seems extremely crazy and unreasonable?

The prequels are still shit regardless of Disney Wars

>>220340633
They didn’t love the sequel trilogy though. You know we can watch their videos and we know what they said in them right?

>>220340682
>they didn't love the ST
Of course they didn't. They just praised it up and down and refused to acknowledge any faults of the movies because their politics wouldn't allow it. That's even worse.

>>220340709
You are not mentally well.

>>220337872
Why are americans so fat?

>>220340709
>they were actually praising The Last Jedi when they said it was a giant waste of time that killed their interest in the series

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>inb4 300 replies

RLM was right about everything. Faggot Star Wars autists love embarrassing themselves by blaming Mike for their failed lives, their permavirginity and their porn addictions.

>c-children in Africa are DYING!

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>>220340823
OK, Mike.

The echoes of Gilchrist live on for eternity

>>220340745
>daisy ridley was CHARISMATIC AS HELL
>n-no guise it wasn't politics they just truly believed Daisy Ridley was the next big actor of our time and praised her up and down for each movie that wasn't politics its what they genuinely believed
:|

>>220340709
>They just praised it up and down
Except they didn't and you can literally watch the videos and see that this is a lie. What are you even attempting here?

>STILL seething

>>220340904
Them liking one aspect of a movie is not the same as you claiming they praised the entire trilogy up and down. You are a complete and total fucking moron.

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>>220337872
The prequels were not as bad as they made them out to be and the sequels were worse than they made them out to be.

>>220340067
We get it, you're a boring dork.

>>220340957
Riiiiiight. They just avoided saying anything negative about it because they hated it. Riiiiiiiiight.

>>220340248
>they influenced nothing, all they did was put into words what a lot of people felt about the prequels
What the old guys thought. New kids loved them and begged their parents to get the toys and games. It's just old fuck hating new popular thing.

>>220341000
They liked TFA. You know who else liked TFA? Almost everyone else including /tv/ when it first came out.

>>220340957
So do you also believe Ridley was a good casting or do you think they were being insincere fags?

>>220341023
/tv/'s filled with dorks. Losers.

>>220341023
RLM dickriders actually believe this. /tv/ famously loves black characters in sci-fi

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>>220341023
>including /tv/

>>220338649
There are no characters at all in episode 1, just actors. They're not motivated by anything except following the script written to show off the cgi.
Mr. Binks and the trade federation monsters are the only ones not on valium.

>>220338599
this is funny because it's literally what the guys in the OP picture said

All the faggot cowards from the other thread made this one to keep lying about the prequels and sequels not being complete shit
Faggot trolls

>>220341023
pretty much. in their review of it though did criticise things like how lazy another fucking death star was, they didn't blindly praise every aspect of it like the prequel schizo wants people to believe.

any day now he will turn /tv/ against rlm, just one more thread!

>>220341076
Either disingenuous or low functioning.

>>220341096
Sorry I forgot the trade federation robots, they were the only ones with souls, motivations and feelings so they were clearly the main characters.

>>220341071
Most of the reception on /tv/ was positive when it first came out. You can be forgiven for not knowing this since this was 2015 and most of the current user base of the site wasn't here yet.

>>220341249
Link 3 posts from the archive where it was widely praised, including the replies.

>>220341298
I'm not digging for you, but I was here and it happened

>>220340957
holy cope
lmao
they are shills
they got paid to praise the sequels
get over it
they are not your friends you parasocial retard

>>220341314
So was I and it didn't and you're a lying retard. Prove me wrong or shut your pole smoker.

>>220341014
>New kids loved them and begged their parents to get the toys and games.
I vividly remember TPM coming out when I was 7 and everyone calling the kid with a SW a faggot.

>>220337872
All of Mike's complaints boil down to "this isn't exactly like new hope so it's bad"
force awakens was his ideal film. LITERALLY saying jj should direct it
we saw how that turned out

>>220337872
mr plinkett was always trash but is still the best thing rlm ever did, unironically hack fraud faggots

>>220341338
What's going to change if I go to the trouble of proving it? You'll just choose a new cope, it's pointless.

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>>220340678
RLM bootlickers. How can you even pretend their sequel reviews are anything like their prequel reviews? Get mikes dick out of your mouth.

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>>220341367
>THEY WERE MEANER TO THE PREQUELS EVEN THOUGH THEY CLEARLY DISLIKED BOTH TRILOGIES AND SAID AS MUCH ITS NOT FAAAAAAAAIR

>>220340957
But daisy Ridley was not charismatic as hell and was just as bad as a character as kid anakin. TFA was an absolutey terrible movie yet they liked it. Clearly they’re retarded.

I was so excited and listened to the soundtrack on repeat before the movie came out. Then I watched it and the soundtrack was the only good part, the cool poster with vaders shadow behind the kid was more cinematic than anything in the movie.

>>220341364
Yeah that's what I thought you parasocial faggot

>>220337872
That people listened to two diabetic, balding old men and took them seriously is still shocking to me

>>220341023
>including /tv/ when it first came out.
Well at least now we know you’re a retarded shill for sure

>>220341367
The sequels are so bad it's not even fun to make fun of them.

>>220341417
>But daisy Ridley was not charismatic as hell
This is an opinion
>and was just as bad as a character as kid anakin
lol
>TFA was an absolutey terrible movie yet they liked it
It was fine on its own, it's really only in the context of how the other movies turned out that the stuff they were setting up had lame or no payoffs. Most people were optimistic about the sequels after it came out.

>>220341386
>they put on the velvet gloves for sequel criticism because Disney bent over backwards to atone for an overly white series

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>>220341446
>shill is when you only hate only 2 out of 3 of the product and are able to remember things that happened 11 years ago

>>220341386
They liked TFA and didn’t dislike the other 2 anywhere near as much despite them being the worst Star Wars movies period. You’re just lying now. If you liked TFA how are you not retarded?

>>220338473
It's true. People really don't shit on internet 'film critics' enough. Utterly ruined cinema and pop culture as a whole.

>>220341249
Thats very cute anon but I remember all the posts mocking the black main character, hating the reddit tier "so... you want me to talk first or should you?" humor, and criticizing all the plot holes and Rey being a Mary Sue.

Honestly, we even lie about being here in 2015? Its not even an impressive thing to lie about. Anything to win an internet argument i guess?

>>220337937
Thread ended here

>>220341469
>This is an opinion
All media and art critique is opinion you dickriding retard

>>220341510
>didn’t dislike the other 2 anywhere near as much
as much as what? some arbitrary level of hate that you feel wasn't sufficiently reached? they said they were bad movies, what on earth more do you want?

>>220341457
But that’s your opinion, now what they think. They even liked TFA lol

>>220341531
So someone having a different opinion than you doesn't mean they're lying or shilling.

>>220341518
>Thats very cute anon but I remember all the posts mocking the black main character
the wave of posting him was when he popped up in the trailer like a negro jumpscare, not when the movie came out.

>>220340823
has there ever been a more savage twink death?

>>220341469
>It was fine on its own
Retard alert

>>220341532
I would have liked them to have reviewed the sequel trilogy with the same level of scrutiny as they did the prequel trilogy, but they went easy on the sequel trilogy because they’re retarded shills who even liked it. You saying they disliked 2 of the movies doesn’t change the fact that they went extremely easy on them because they’re retarded shills.

>>220341558
Then it's pointless to argue about the 'objective' quality of a film like RLM trannies constantly do. Scroll up and you'll see I'm right.

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>>220341367
So true sisters!

>>220341561
Yet you still can’t find any evidence of /tv/ widely praising the film. Because it didn’t happen.

>>220341537
They liked the prequels more.

>>220341558
It means they are fatass losers who shouldn't be taken seriously. If you liked force awakens you should be a slave

>>220341609
>I would have liked them to have reviewed the sequel trilogy with the same level of scrutiny as they did the prequel trilogy
Me too. The fact that they didn't doesn't mean that they're shilling or that they like those movies more, just that the sequels are less "funny" and more tiresome in their badness and the reviews probably wouldn't be as fun to create or watch.

RLM is generally in a very different place than they were when those prequel reviews were released, nobody knew who they were, those videos were how they got noticed and got some traction. They no longer need to fight for that kind of attention.

>>220341635
>redditlettermedia projecting
Lmao, of course you’d post a reddit screencap

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>>220341023
>when the redditor can't help but out himself

>>220341561
Then show us a single thread from the time of the films release that's overwhelmingly positive. I will gladly concede and hail RLM as the arbiters of all film criticism.

>>220341564
It's Rick "Horsecock" Beato.

>>220341638
you're replying to different people retard, I'm not looking for evidence of shit.

It didn't, nothing changed. Zoomers grew up and found out about the Plinket Reviews and have been butthurt ever since because they grew up watching Jar Jar Binks and clapping excitedly every time he was on screen.

>>220341561
Bullshit the WE posting and hate continued well after release.
>doesnt address all the other criticism /tv/ had with TFA at the time
Yeah guess you didnt see all the posts asking how Rey could use jedi powers or beat kylo with zero training, or the bullshit about how star killer base beamsplitting and destroying 5 planets at once and wiping out the entire new republic while the main characters watched it in the sky was stupid as fuck. Keep lying.

>>220341660
Nah, it’s cause they’re shills too afraid too use that same level of scrutiny. And it’s also cause they’re retarded as evidenced by them actually liking TFA. Idk why you keep running to the defense of people like them lol

>>220341660
The Plinkett reviews felt like a purely Mike thing desu.

>I will gladly concede and hail RLM as the arbiters of all film criticism.
(You)'re seriously schizo as fuck and obsessed with rlm it's hilarious, nobody has ever claimed this.

>>220341709
Progressive reddit types are terrified of criticizing anything done in the name of "representation"

>>220341679
he aged really well, unlike mike.

>>220341621
But trannnies hate RLM?
https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-critique-of-red-letter-media%E2%80%99s-bigoted-content-see-staff-post.129228/

>>220341023
Just the first trailer of tfa made this board unusable, and not because of universal praise

>>220337872
Star Wars always sucked as sci fi. Introducing trade disputes and politics as anything other than backdrop was a mistake. It should've stick with science fantasy

>>220338599
>Star Wars died with ewoks. Star wars died back in 1983.
my dad is a gen Xer (although a bit older than RLM) and a trekkie and he says this

>>220340823
looks like budget Peter Steele

>>220337937
That's not how it works retard. People seethe over plinkett because the videos were popular and affected public perception, leading to Disney Wars. If their videos had no impact or were irrelevant, regardless of whether they were right, no one would really care.

>>220337872
Prequel apologists get the fucking rope too. Don’t pretend like just because Disney is AIDS, that doesn’t retroactively mean that latter George wasn’t cancer all on his lonesome.

Why do you freaks pretend that the prequels and sequels don't do the exact same garbage? Half of you are 25 and lower so you didn't even grow up with the shit.

>People seethe over plinkett because the videos were popular and affected public perception, leading to Disney Wars
it's hilarious that zoomer retards have actually convinced themselves this is reality.

If the year you were born in begins with a 2, you cannot speak about Star Wars. Simple as.

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>>220337872
It didn't age poorly, rather, I grew up.
When the Plinket reviews came out, I don't think anyone had ever seen anything like it--film criticism had been the purview of stuffy normies like siskel and ebert and faggots in universities.
So when I saw something like Plinket, combined with my general interest in film, and no real knowledge about anything, it overwhelmed my simple little brain.
Well, nowadays I know more. And although I can still appreciate the humor (and some of the points) I also realize a lot of it is just opinion, plain wrong, or just an overreaction to CGI.

>>220343116
Its ok George. You just made a bad decision, happens to the best of us. At least you got $4bil for it, maybe you could use it to leave a legacy that isn't covered in shit.

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>>220341667
>no u
Pathetic

>>220343388
is this supposed to look bad?

>>220337872
prequels are perfect and they piss off women, niggers, and faggots, making them even more perfect

>>220337872
Because they were never Star Wars fans. They were Trekkies. And Trekkies are gay communist pedophiles.

>>220337872
Red Letter Media ruined Star Wars and culture.

>>220337872
Because Mike “Case of the Not Gays” Stoklasa was never a good writer and never understood good writing if it hit him in the face.

It is why Space Cop (written by Mike) was so painfully unfunny.

It is why everytime Mike tries to improve a move it becomes worse.

It is why Mike’s favorite movies are trash like The Force Awakens, MCU Spider-Man, and Jurassic World.

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>>220337937
lmao the seething replies

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I, SISSYcas, JOBBER of the film industry, humbly kneel to:

CHADklasa-sama, my master, who mindraped me into selling Star Wars to white slavers

Iger-sama, my one true love and other master

Cameron-sama, who’s box office I will never surpass

Ewan-sama, who threw the prequels under the bus at the first sight of fan backlash

Coppola-sama, who I will never have more Oscars than

Kennedy-sama, who beat the shit out of me so hard I started being attracted to femdom almost as much as I am attracted to men.

Spielberg-sama, whose incomparabily forceful punches crushed my ass-womb like I was Heather O'Rourke

Abram’s-sama, who abandoned my ideas for the sequel trilogy like a used condom (EVEN THOUGH Iger-sama promised that he would listen to my ideas)

Johnson-sama, who’s movie was so bad that it utterly raped the Star Wars franchise to the point of irrelevance

Filoni-sama, who molested the EU with his wolf cock

>I liked shitty space movie when I was 7 so that means everyone loved it before youtube channel said it was bad
The internet has really exposed how fucking retarded most people are. It really is the best argument against democracy.

>>220337937
spippybippy

>>220339317
It is literally just RLMfags.

Red Letter Media (especially Mike Stoklasa) said that Disney Star Wars was good and Prequels were bad, and as such RLMfags feel the need to defend Disneyslop in the name of their masters.

RLMfags are kinda like Vtuber simps.

>>220344564
>I hated this shitty space movie when I was 37 so that means everyone hated it
Goes both ways kek

>>220340394
Anon, they released the prequels into theaters and they made money. Much to the seethe of Mike Stoklasa.

>>220344765
Mike was way too positive about TFA in their review. I don't think you can find many people who disagree on that. But the way you shitskinned subhumans just make up that they loved the other two movies despite them having public videos shitting on them is actual psychosis.

>>220344788
I liked Revenge of the sith when I was 10. Now that I am an adult I don't. Crazy concept for a brown person with 80IQ, I know.

>>220341510
>Rich Evans: It is messy but not a mess.
>Mike Stoklasa and Jay Bauman: Yes.
>RLM Simps: They totally hated Last Jedi!

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RLM betrayed me when they (Mike) shat on Rogue One while praising TFA the year before. And continued doubling down across multiple videos.

>>220344843
It's impossible to tell if you're just lying or you're actually that autistically retarded. Either way you should definitely commit suicide right now.

>>220344841
So you just proved my point. Good job.

>>220344493
This

>disappointment with the prequels was so widespread with normies mainstream shows like the simpsons freely shit on them
>no everyone loved them until rlm changed the world's opinion
wew lad

>>220344843
They also said the movie was a waste of time that killed their interest in the franchise. But sure, they secretly "loved" it or whatever bullshit you're trying to pretend is real.

>>220337937
that part

>>220344861
That was not your point. Are you retarded? I keep mulling over if you "people" are lying or if you are genuinely insane.

>>220344765
>Red Letter Media (especially Mike Stoklasa) said that Disney Star Wars was good and Prequels were bad, and as such RLMfags feel the need to defend Disneyslop in the name of their masters.

>RLMfags are kinda like Vtuber simps.

A fitting comparison. Especially with how many anons keep saying they want to be have sex Mike and Jay every thread.

>>220344883
Yes that was my point. No wonder you don't the prequels if you can't follow basic logic.

>>220344843
Don’t forget that Mike Stoklasa and Rich Evans loved that Disney Kenobi show and said it was what the Prequels should have been.

>>220344765
>Red Letter Media (especially Mike Stoklasa) said that Disney Star Wars was good
No, they said the first Disney movie was good for what it was (and better than the prequels, which it was). They hated literally everything else Disney Wars.

>>220344931
They defended fucking acolyte and said it should get the prequel reappraisal

>>220344851
The hatred for Rogue One was because Mike Stoklasa felt like a moron for falling for the memberberries in TFA. And Mike can’t admit he was ever wrong about TFA with how much he shilled it and how much he shilled Abrams for Star Wars. So he took his anger out on Rogue One to try and redeem his critic status. With Mike criticizing RO for using old technology when it made more sense for RO to do so than TFA.

>>220344969
you are too autistic for this life.

>>220344969
And Mike Stoklasa said no one should criticize Acolyte because there are starving blacks in Africa.

We've proven time and time again that RLMCHAD haters are all clone wars babbies

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>>220340965
>The prequels were not as bad as they made them out to be and the sequels were worse than they made them out to be.
People cannot deal with this simple truth. They go into hysterics and mental gymnastics. Here's to the first of the day, fellas... To ole George Walton Lucas.

>>220345032
THE NOT GAYS

>>220345038
See>>220344765

Gotta defend their masters.

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>>220345038
the prequels were garbage and an insult to everyone that loved the original trilogy, green screen cancer, the worst dialogue ever presented on the big screen and a multitude of ugly aesthetics

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>>220340823
Dangerously based

>>220337872
This is just more reason why you should never listen to Star Trek fans. The fact they believe communism can work because a fictional tv show told them so is proof they have nothing intelligent to say.

>>220345128
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>>220338157
>What difference would it have made?

As much as I shit on the prequels, I still think about them. I still find them a fascinating set of films full of bold and interesting choices. Yes, they all failed miserably... But at least Lucas tried. And decades later people (if nothing else) get a lot of joy taking them apart and making fun of the poor decisions.

Shitting on the sequels isn't even fun. It's just sad. There's nothing bold or interesting about it. It's all either very carefully retreading old ground or mindless subversion. Even the memes are worse. "ThEy FlY nOw!?!?!?" GTFOOH

>>220345128
Its somehow even worse because the star trek universe has space magic technology that can just create infinite food. Actual child like world building.

>>220341023
LOL good one you cocksucking faggot poser. I still rember the catalog full of ooga booga threads

>>220344935
>they said the first Disney movie was good for what it was
It isn't though. seemed ok at the time but it was a bad jumping off point. nothing really made sense about it from the get-go. then it just copied, regurgitated ANH. that's not how you reach a new beloved trilogy. gotta do something new. all that Disney did manage to do, that was new, was horrendous.

>>220338157
the prequels succeeded in creating a setting to do stuff in
you clones versus droids shit
sequal triliogy doesnt even have that because they blew everything up and nothing makes sense so you cant tell any stores
thats why the sequels failed
it didnt move the setting forward but ran it in to a brick wall with nothin more to say

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>>220345353
>with nothin more to say
it's about family

>>220345353
It didn’t help that TFA and TLJ took place over three days.

Making it so there isn’t a lot of space to do stuff in that time period.

>>220337872
I never got why people liked these unfunny losers.

>>220345664
they made video essays and had a bit of humor in them
now they just where diapers and drink until they piss themselves while complaining about white people

>>220345664
People with no friends need a simulator.

>>220340633
>>220340709
I remember how many people were pushing this narrative after their TLJ review came out, even though one of the first things Mike said about it was "It was like a nightmare."

>>220345739
B-but they didn't call it the worst movie ever made, therefore they actually loved it!

Didnt they like TFA? Then defend that stance years later?

>RLM: "lmao these star wars movies kinda suck"
>disney turn star wars into a sad joke
>"WTF WHY DID RLM RUIN STAR WARS??"
wut

>>220345786
They liked Kenobi and Acolyte kek

>>220345848
Jesus christ, do they have a single good opinion?

>>220345786
It's bizarre how hard they defended TFA, Im watching their last jedi now because of these threads and they doubled down and say calling it a new hope rehash makes you a moron because that was obvious. so why would you like a complete rehash?

Last Jedi was the best disneywars because Skellig Michael is a pretty island and the subtext was about shitting on obsessed starwars fans.

>>220345899
and now Im at the point where they defend rey beating kylo because... if you disagree you must like the prequels or something. such bizarre overprotection

>>220345848
he called kenobi a guilty pleasure and acolyte wasn't worth wasting your time watching, you faggots are insanely obsessed with rlm.

There is no excuse for a grown man to like attack of the clones unless you watched it as a kid

>>220340003
i'll excuse your other preferences but 3 before 1 is just pants on head retarded

>>220345899
>watching their last jedi now because of these threads and they doubled down and say calling it a new hope rehash makes you a moron
forgot they did that. it's so bizarre, their need to downplay and seethe and cope about ppls criticisms for Dinsey Wars. how odd! there's some maaaajor insecurity going on at RLM headquarters.

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>>220345111
young mike looks like such a smug cocky prick, also exactly like max landis

>>220345976
>kenobi a guilty pleasure
how da fuq anyone derive pleasure out of that shit-show. really. what the fuck. they suddenly like prequel Obi-Wan now? is that why? how on Earth could it be anything else. how strange!

why do schizos think it's not obvious to everyone when they reply to themselves agreeing with their own lies?

>>220345899
They were always dogshit, never got the appeal

>>220337937
Everyone laughs at guys like this now. They are living sad manchildren lives drinking themselves to death being supported by an audience even more pathetic than they are.

>>220346103
The magic of self delusion

>>220345128
Wasn’t one of the Star Trek writers a pedophile too?

>>220337872
You must live in a bubble if you think some bitter manchildren's opinion made an impact so big enough to change anything. These dudes aren't big in the USA much less the world even working in a company that goes around the world like YouTube. You niggas need to leave your rooms for at least one hour a day and touch grass once in a while.

>>220337872
Mike Stoklasa deserves a bronze bull death.

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>>220337937
We will never rest until Mike ADMITS to the world that the sequels have no cultural relevance and are worse than the prequels, however bad the prequels still are in their eyes.

>>220337872
This is more reason why you shouldn’t mindless believe YouTubers/online-reviewers. Most of these people have no credibility and are just retards with cameras.

>>220346302
The plinkett reviews got millions of views. If you don't think that influences people you are retarded

>>220344935
The sequels were written with the RLM prequel reviews in mind. It’s why they avoid space politics altogether

>>220346621
This. Disney Star Wars was based off the criticism of Mike Stoklasa and Red Letter Media. Especially the hiring of JJ Abrams

Everything that happened with Disney Star Wars was because of them.

>>220337872
Do they even like the OT? I think they just hate Star Wars.

>>220346728
They literally only like New Hope and Empire.

>>220346728
They find the first two OT movies to be passable but prefer Star Trek (especially TNG).

>>220346337
the prequels are still shit
the sequels are just so bad that anything else seems good

>>220346728
Mike Stoklasa prefers watching Ghost Adventures and Big Mouth than watching New Hope.

>>220346772
Mike won’t have sex with you, anon. You don’t have to keep trying so hard, Sweetie.

describe qui gon jinn if I didn't have breakfast this morning

>>220346817
shut up, faggot
no one cares about your fanfic shit

>>220346800
I'm unironically convinced Mike is actually trans after his Mad Max Flopiosa movie review.

>>220346901
Mike is definitely at least gay. No straight person keeps demanding all media be full of gays or constantly sees straight characters as secretly gay. He has gays on the brains 24/7.

They play softball with kids gloves on with the Sequel shit because they won't ever admit they were fundamentally wrong about Jew Jew.
Meanwhile nu-Trek does anything even remotely out of line with Berman Trek and they rant for an entire hour.

Double standards.

>>220347053
Trekkies, despite larping as morally superior and benevolent, have no morals and are hypocritical assholes.
It makes sense when you realize they are the Communists of fandoms.

>>220346901
Mike wasn't even in the Furiosa review. What the fuck are you talking about?

>>220346302
>made an impact
well yeah they made an impact. and did you forget about all the celebs as well that hyped the Stoklasa reviews and their RLM opinions

>>220347190
This. Simon Pegg was retweeting the Red Letter Meida reviews and shilling them hard.

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>>220337872
Andor was the first and last time Star Wars became actual unbridled kino

>>220347226
>one tweet
>shilling them hard

>>220337872
Turns out noticing something is bad and giving useful advice to fix it are completely unrelated because you need actual experience in the craft.

>>220347226
>Simon Pegg
Who also, coincidentally!!!, got his wish to be in a Star Wars. albeit, unrecognizable in a creature suit. he was so proud.

>>220337872
Well trekkies are generally much smarter than Star Wars manchildren so they were right

>>220337937
spbp

>>220340633
They were lukewarm on TFA and hated Skywalker. TLJ, yeah they were too soft on that one.

>>220341014
>New kids loved them
I was 12 and thought they were shit, and so did half the kids in my class. People were joking about killing Jar Jar and hating the Anakin kid within days of the first showing.

>>220342872
It has to be young zoomers, because even elder zoomers know the prequel shit sucked outside of the EU.

>>220344851
This is the one thing RLM haters are right about, Rogue One isn't that good but it was the least bad of the NuWars lot and they clearly considered it a safe target to knock at while ignoring the similar issues in other films.

>>220346728
Like any person with taste they liked new hope and Empire and recognize Return as the start of Star War's decline.

>>220348757
True people with taste recognize Return of the Jedi as the best. Normalfags with low IQ like Red Letter Media wank off Empire.

>>220348901
>literal furries
>Another death star because uuhhhhh

star wars won. even at their worst, star wars is mostly critiqued for dumb writing, while star trek is poorly written but also incredibly gay and woke

>>220348901
You're trying too hard.

>>220337872
Trekkies are the most obnoxious fanbase ever. They all are just smug atheist pedophile communists.

>>220348901
teddy bears that had the agility of midgets defeating the imperials is lame and for that i don't believe anyone can rank rotj highly, it's easily the weakest in the ot because of it

>>220337872
Red Letter Media should unironically pay reparations for ruining Star Wars for everyone.

>>220337872
>Americans are so retarded they get all their beliefs from a obese drunk leftist retard from Milwaukee because he made a funny voice
You mutts are dumb. I bet you all would jump off a bridge if Mike told you to do so.

>>220337872
They sold out to Disney. They 100% were bribed into sucking off the sequel movies.

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>>220337872
>Why did RLMs commentary on Star Wars age so poorly?

Because The Force Awakens pretty much followed their suggestions and we ended up getting a dumpster fire of a trilogy that makes the prequel trilogy look like a masterpiece in comparison.

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>>220349016

Hey, I'm not a communist!

>>220337872
The Plinkett edgy and dark humor was the best part of the reviews but normalfags were put off by it and they only paid attention to the mediocre criticism.

>>220349085
Where do I sign up to get paid by disney to say everything nuwars except andor is middling to awful, sweet gig.

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Jay needs to lock Mike up.

>>220337872
The way RLM keeps chuds pressed because they’ve been able to stay popular while not needing to grift the anti-woke or anti-sequels trend. They’re literally unstoppable.

>>220337872
Trekfags can’t even take a shower, why would you even listen to their opinion on anything?

It really is amazing how completely mind broken autismos can become over a youtube channel not validating their opinions.

>>220337872
Reminder that Mike Stoklasa got his taint fucked by the Amazing Digital Circus Tranny

>>220349122
they never suggested Abrams insert his mystery box bullshit, the Star Trek 2009 was free of that shit

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>>220337872
What fucking video "essayist" purposed the idea that Red Letter Media were the of progenitors of prequel hate; prior to zoom-zooms growing up it was borderline cultural canon that the prequels were terrible films. Next to Micheal Jackson, the Star Wars Prequels were easily the most mocked piece of culture during the 00's.

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>>220349971
>Star Trek 2009

Star Trek 2009 blew up Romulus in a really stupid way then used time travel to destroy the canon and blow up Vulcan to boot.

The fact that they were cool with that wasn't a good sign.

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>>220349988

Mocked by Hollywood media, the same people who mocked Star Trek and who thought normie shit like FRIENDS was cool. The prequels had problems; but 90% of the hate was from Hollywood shit talkers not actual fans.

the only neat thing about star wars is eventually they added more color lightsabers. i liked the yellow one in the ps1 game

>>220350080
>Fans liked the prequels
No? If anything fans loathed these films more than the mainstream media ever did. These niggas edited Jar Jar out of the Phantom Menace with 00's technology; they made an entire documentary about how "Lucas raped their children"

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>>220350284

Bullshit. There's tons of prequel content that's still really popular. No one is buying sequel shit.

Prequels had definite problems and they're clearly inferior to the original trilogy; but the idea that they were hated like the sequels are is BS.

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>>220350396
>Bullshit. There's tons of prequel content that's still really popular.
Yeah, two decades later, when the population who watched them as children could get nostalgic. Diehard fans autistically loathed the prequels when they were released, even more than diehards Star Wars today hate the squeals. No comparison, the hate for these films were palpable. Beyond harassing a pre-adolscent Jake Lyold to insanity and Ahmed Best being so mentally destroyed by the universal hatred for Jar Jar he became suicidal, people made an entire documentary about the fan hatred for the prequels and Lucas. Every vaguely "nerdy" tv show had references and episodes dedicated to shitting on the prequels: South Park, The Simpsons, Robot Chicken. Fans fucking hated these films. Not saying the hatred wasn't silly and overemphasized, but the idea people "liked" these films before the late 2010s is historical illiterature, at best. The squeals don't face the same hate as the prequels did because we've had 2 decades of shit Star Wars to finally sink the brand

>>220341704
>beat kylo with zero training
I'm still surprised the
>beat by a girl who had never even picked up a lightsaber line
ended up in the very next movie, like he was reading twitter comments and had to include a lampshade.

a few days ago I saw Panic Room. When the lady starts smashing the cameras, the criminals in the safe room are like "why didn't we think of that".

>>220341039
nta, but I want to impregnate Daisy Ridley.
It's not her fault the trilogy is dogshit.

>>220350396
The only prequel content that's popular is from the cartoon and yet you post an image from the movies literally no one fucking cares about

>>220337872
What did they get wrong?
They are pretty right on the money.

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>>220340598
they hate you bc you speak the truth.

people are impressionable.

>>220338157
>George made the original films and failed to recapture the same magic with his prequel films

Boomer take.
The prequels are beloved. They have aged very well and are still the highest grossing independent films made outside of Hollywood OF ALL TIME.

>>220340575
>George Lucas used his wealth to fund world cinema and independent film makers.
When has he done this?
Can I get some of this funding or is it too late?

>>220350953
everyone hated the prequels and were disappointed they were so shit when they first left the theater after first seeing the phantom shit in the dark, it only got worse from there

>>220340316
They were paid by Disney, no doubt about it

>>220349195
You don't sign up. Media giants like Disney will contact you if you're a successful youtuber.
Otherwise your only hope for a """gig""" like this is to be rounded up in an Indian slum by uniformed men with sticks to shill online for western media giants in broken english.

>>220338157
This, the prequels were and are still awful

>>220337872
They are obese, sloppy gen xers who became upset that their childhood fantasy movies got a cgi makeover and can’t move on from it. Maybe there’s a parallel with the sequel trilogies but I wouldn’t know, because I haven’t seen them. Perhaps in 10 years people will be praising them as hidden gems after disneywars pumps out 10 more shitty movies.

As for everyone hating the prequels when they came out, that’s patently false, anyone who grew up with them as a child/young teenager knows about their insane popularity, because pew pew space battles is an absolute goldmine with toys for boys

>>220337872
>1970s-80s
Star Wars was better than Star Trek.
>1990s
Star Wars was better than Star Trek.
>2000s
Star Wars was better than Star Trek.
>2010s
Star Wars is.. well.. it's still better than Star Trek
>2020s
Dude Star Trek fucking sucks, Star Wars sucks now too, but at least there is a moment in time where being a Star Wars fan didn't make you a total fucking faggot.
Star Trek fans have never had that, they have always been angry faggots.

The prequels ars wonderful films for homosexual autists.