>Guy gets abducted by schizo terrorists who have super science and /x/-tier mysticism >Guy is made into one of their cyborgs but escapes before brainwashing can be done>Realizes this spooky quasi Nazi group possess a grave threat to the world >Decided to be the lone figure to fight against their plans because he has the ability to do so>Considers it his duty to always fight Shocker's evil wherever he discovers itThis is a bog standard superhero origin story, with a very simple premise. How the fuck has Hollywood not tried doing their own Kamen Rider movie yet?No, Masked Rider doesn't count
Probably a rights issue.
>>220343782His face is covered entirely in a helmet so he can't emote, or something But they did two modern remakes of the original KR in Japan, first was Kamen Rider: The First in 2005 and 2023's Shin Kamen Rider The First is awful but Shin is pretty good
>>220343913Is this nigga firing missiles out of his chest?
>>220343996Finger rockets.
>>220343968>His face is covered entirely in a helmet so he can't emote, or somethinglike that stopped them with Iron Man, Spider Man, etc
>>220343782He has a 600 IQ btw
>>220343782>Decided to be the lone figure to fight against their plans because he has the ability to do so>Considers it his duty to always fight Shocker's evil wherever he discovers itRight here is where the problem lies, Ichigo is a traditional superhero who considers it his obligation to fight evil. The idea of an actual hero is incredibly alien to postmodern, irony-poisoned freaks, it'd be seen as a return to "problematic, square-jawed heroes". Duty and responsibility are loathed by western audiencesAlso, Hongo was chosen by Shocker because he was a perfect physical specimen to carry out their plans, there's no way you'd get away with a plotline like that without a bunch of Twitter activists getting screaming "eugenics propaganda!"
>>220344178>IchigoI often wonder how big of a cocksucker would an English-speaking DBZ fan need to be to call #18 "Juuhachigo".
>>220344222That's not being a weeb faggot, he's literally codenamed Kamen Rider Ichigo, retroactively albeit but still it's to signify him as the first Rider
>>220344409>Kamen Rider IchigoWhich means #1, yes. It's literally the same case.
>>220343782There's like, thirty different Riders, any one could get their own standalone movie
I need a mini Shinji.
>>220343782You say it's simple but you forget one thing - movie suits are notoriously retarded and prone to overthinking thingsI can imagine a number of ways they'd overthink the concept of "Man forcibly turned into a cyborg fights other cyborgs who are Nazis"
>>220344222>JuuhachigoWhatever her name is, Eighteen is pure sex
>>220344764Japanese movie suits are stupid too.
>>220344727The story of this Kamen Highlander was surprisingly decent. I like how the MC lost in the end but got a good ending still. I think they changed the ending in some remake or whatever.
>>220344912Nah, The First duology suits are pretty neat
>>220343782Power Rangers poisoned the well for tokusatsu in the west forever.
>>220344912Those movies do, yes, but the 90s trilogy had the perfect armored redesigns with Zo & J
>>220343782>quasi Nazi groupShocker was literally formed by former nazis and imperial japanese.
>>220345388>imperial japanese.So he's fighting domestic terrorism as well? Again, Hollywood suits love themselves protagonists who fight Nazis and Domestic Terrorists
>>220345388The Shocker emblem is a dead giveaway.
>>220343782>quasi NaziBro...
>>220343782>>220345783The cultural discourse would be hellish. Chud media would call it woke rider because nazis are the bad guys. It doesn't help that its creator, Shotaro Ishinomori, was a tree-hugging hippie
>>220345889>was a tree-hugging hippieSo is Hayao Miyazaki but most Chudtubers fucking love that old geezer
>>220345889>Chud media would call it woke riderThat's if you only heavily lean into the Nazi angle, if you mention it in passing that Shocker is what was left of the Germans and Imperial Japanese after the war and have been doing Shocker things for decades in secret then they wouldn't bat an eye
>>220343782https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1778102100398424.webm
>>220343782Kamen Rider, so are most Ishinomori heroes too ripe for Hollywood adaptations>Android Kikaider>Akumaizer 3>Inazuman
>>220345783>>220345889It's very simple to just whittle it down to this>End of World War II, a select few German soldiers & scientists went on the run>So did a handful of Imperial Japanese >In the ensuing decades their organization, Shocker, has been secretly funding terrorists, and dipping their toes in organized crime for funding.>In this time, they've used the German science notes and occult research to build highly advanced cyborg soldiers, this first batch was the Combat Men>More powerful cyborgs, infused with animal DNA were being produced in the present but the reason they aren't as widely produced is that the process is too time consuming
>>220343782So who should be the voice of Shocker's Great Leader?Because you absolutely need a distinct and menacing voice for the man who's supposed to be running all of Shocker.My vote goes to Clancy Brown or the guy who voices Kratos
>>220343782Kamen Rider was brought over to America twice and it floppedBut there is one toku hero who'd easily work better as a Hollywood blockbuster
>>220346695Garo unironically works even less since you're asking the audience to buy that they have wolf-themed armor for some reason they never mention.
>>220346695What is it about this that'd work?
>>220347754Garo has the very simple premise of - "secret society sends trained knights to slay demons that feed on the darkness of human souls" It's almost impossible to fuck something like that up.
>>220343782TV bros...how do we respond??
>>220348436>"secret society sends trained knights to slay demons that feed on the darkness of human soulThey'd try to make those demons in the right because people bad
>>220348547So is Kamen Rider Japan's Superman or is he their Batman?
>>220343968whats wrong about the first, never saw it, is it just boring?
>>220343782The problem is Hollywood has a really warped idea of what a hero is, instead of even a selfish anti-hero who has principles, their ideal of a hero is a narcissist whom the world bends over to please because they think they're right.Kamen Riders even in the darkest seasons, are heroes in the sense they will fight no matter how harder the battle against evil becomes, they'll keep going to the bitter end and do everything they can to protect others especially if that evil is another Kamen Rider
>>220348785You kind of can't, Horrors are literally incapable of complex thought, they're no more than very powerful animals, even the ancient, more powerful horrors are still animals motivated by hunger
>>220349446>they'll keep going to the bitter endI loathe how determination is considered a toxic trait for characters to have
>>220348800He's both their Spider-Man AND Batman. >Two of his first villains are literally a Bat Man and Spider Man>he's a bug hero>he's out to get revenge, Gothic literature style (Kamen Rider was inspired by Monte Cristo, but specifically Tyger Tyger/The Stars My Destination, which is the former but IN SPACE)Ultraman is Japanese Superman.>>220343782There have been rumors for quite a while about an American Kamen Rider movie, but the problem is that nobody really had easy access to the source material until recently. We got a Guyver movie only because of the anime being accessible, after all.>>220344178Kamen Rider is a very difficult sell for American audiences because Ichigo's character has more in common (no pun intended) with older pulp heroes like The Shadow, The Spider, or James Bond where the main character's heroism is an inherent tragedy in how they sacrifice having a normal life in order to ensure that other people can have normal lives.We don't really have that kind of attitude towards superheroes in America because that's seen as a bad thing and in the way of the hero getting a normal life again, which is why they end up with sidekicks and a surrogate family of heroes or civilians before eventually living domestic/mundane lives again once the evil has been defeated and peace has been restored.It's why Spider-Man and Batman are so popular and beloved because they end up having their cake and eating it too. It's something that separates the comic book superheroes from the pulp heroes. The Spider can never settle down with Nita, but if he was a comic book superhero, he could. You lose something in the process of going ahead with that wish fulfillment, sadly.
>>220349446The ironic thing about modern perspectives towards American heroes is that most of the pulp heroes (The Shadow and Doc Savage just to name a few) were strongly inspired by the religious background of their creators as well as the real-life heroes that their authors looked up to, not to mention the great mythic heroes like Heracles and King Arthur.The Western hero has a lot of overlap with the Eastern hero, the Christ Figure v the Bodhisattva. Both are defined as giving up normalcy and material desires in exchange for living noble lives of heroism marked by good deeds, kindness, and tearing out the roots of evil-selfishness. Although they differ in terms of metaphysics (the sin-eater vs the healer), they're functionally the same thing. A man who transcends his humanity so no one else will have to do the same and risk their normal lives when it comes towards fighting the darkness that dwells within the hearts of man. Not exactly a man who becomes a monster, but who wears fangs to scare monsters. Beautiful, yet tragic.
>>220349628>We don't really have that kind of attitude towards superheroes in America because that's seen as a bad thingThe Punisher is one of the most popular antiheroes in American pop culture today and his entire story is a tragedy, even Spider-Man and Batman are tragic in that their lives are still miserable
>>220346695Garo doesn't even really do well in terms of actual media. It's powered solely by the Garo themed pachinkos, and the guy who owns the pachinkos just really likes Garo so he keeps funding shows and anime. I do actually think it would translate well to western media though. It's darker than most toku, already has protagonists in the anime who aren't Japanese, and the suit is fucking awesome.
>>220349489>Horrors are incapable of complex thoughtIdk if you've watched a Garo series but they usually possess people through manipulation and reading desire, that's how some of them hunt, they're also very patient and take time to break down a potential host.How is that not an example of complex thought?
>>220349829Yes, but he's the exception and he arguably still dips into that wish fulfillment by nature of being a Marvel superhero who exists in the same setting as Daredevil and Spider-Man. On top of that, the act of him mowing down criminals IS wish fulfillment in a very dark way compared to pulp heroes who would often kill their foes but either take things to a ridiculous extreme (The Spider), kill the unrepentant and most dangerous villains while sparing the mooks and common criminals (The Shadow...and a lot of his successors), use tranqs and rubber bullets (non-lethality) to do shit like brain surgery to fix their criminality (Doc Savage), etc.There's also the matter of Spider-Man and Batman swinging violently back and forth between "is never allowed to be happy" and "can only be happy and never miserable" which are basically the same shitty thing which proves my point when it comes towards comparing them to pulp heroes.
>>220349876Again, it's very simple to translate to an American series>You have a Golden Knight, either inheriting his father's post or selected because he was trained for it.>There's Horrors, demons who eat people >You can set it in almost any major city since bloody history probably attracts them>Golden Knight slays Horrors>Has a priest or priestess sidekick/hunting partner>A big bad who's usually a horror or fallen knight/priest who needs to be defeated
>>220346031>Android KikaiderWould they save Hakaider for a sequel or immediately put him as the starter villain so he can have a spinoff?
>>220346031we will never get a kikaider movie for the same reason we won't get a mega man movie and it's the same reason the Astro boy movie floppedrobot kino is something we are destined never to have
>>220350227>for the same reason we won't get a mega man movieWhich is?
>>220350043Hakaider doesn't show up until episode 37, but given his immense popularity he'd probably get thrown into the movie anywayKinda like how Raimi was determined to never have Venom in his Spider-Man movies but had to anyway because Sony knew Venom was popular
>>220349628> We got a Guyver movie only because of the anime being accessible,Was that really why? I always wondered how that transpired or came to be but never found much background info on that
>>220349628>We got a Guyver movieAnd I'd love for there to be a new one, but nobody wants to make an R-rated sci-fi action film because an R rating is seen as too much of a risk, that and nobody makes good gore effects anymore.
>>220350273the same reason why the speed racer movie floppedthe reason is on a metaphysical level, we are allergic to the concept of a Cain and Abel story involving machines in whatever capacity
>>220349628So who would their Green Lantern be?
>>220350505>we are allergic to the concept of a Cain and Abel story involving machinesNot true, there's an entire character arc in Star Trek: TNG involving Data's brother Lore and it's one of the best recurring plots in the show.
>>220350516That would be this nigga here
>>220350516Technically also Ultraman (alien crash lands and his powers go to a human), but the closest equivalent to Green Lantern isn't one singular toku hero, but manga/anime inspired by Lensmen in varying capacities, either directly or indirectly. S-Cry-Ed, the Witchblade anime - really, anything that has the superpower as a tool, so that would mean Kamen Rider, Super Sentai, and Mahou Shoujo like Sailor Moon.Hmm, maybe their Green Lantern IS Mahou Shoujo. >everyone has the same uniform>magical crap comes from space>the hero turns bad >some of the bad guys used to be magical girls or who used their powers for evil>powers are fueled by emotions>inspired by Arabic fairy tales (namely the Genie of the Lamp/Ring from Aladdin, Mahou Shoujo was inspired by I Dream of Jeanie)
>>220350569I can't believe I forgot him, FUCK
The Mammoth Mutant scared the shit out of me
>>220350321>>220350043>Hakaider The world really does need more mechanical violating.
Are you a fan of Shin Kamen Rider? Will we ever get a sequel?
>>220350717Love me some Hakaider
>>220350569>Be an intergalactic criminal >Be doing a crime with your crew>Suddenly you hear some sax music>Then there's pic related on some high up place Idk about you but I'd surrender asap
>>220350622from Black?wasn't his whole gimmick drinking Monster Energy drinks?
>>220350769We're getting a sequel, but it's a matter of when rather than if. Anno's certainly not gonna stop making movies and producing TV shows.Apparently the sequel would cover the events of the original manga where Kamen Rider 2 defeats SHOCKER once and for all and Ichigo returns.
>>220350769it would have to be all up to anno and iguchi to want to, which they probably wouldn't unless they had an idea for one
>>220349049It's boring and has some REALLY dumb relationship drama garbage.
>>220349628>Spider-Man Is in a very interesting place where Marvel has gone out of their way to ensure Peter & MJ will never get back together in main continuity (maybe they've course corrected, idk, I haven't been consistent with my comic reading)
>>220351056>Marvel EIC: I'LL KILL MYSELF BEFORE I UNDO ONE MORE DAY!Is a really strange hill to die on since nobody liked the story in the first place.
>>220351113It's genuinely not hard to understand why they refuse to do it when you look at who they're currently STILL trying to hype up as a big player. They clearly want to trash Peter and make readers trick themselves into wanting Miles as the "main" Spider-Man either because of liberal worship of black people or they just don't want to keep paying the Ditko and Lee estates for using Peter.
>>220351167>when you look at who they're currently STILL trying to hype upIt literally will never matter ever what they do to make Miles "cool", nobody sees Miles Morales as Spider-Man, people never will see him as THE Spider-Man, they'd sooner want Ben Reilly or Kaine to take over as Spider-Man.I doubt it has anything to do with the Ditko Estate, I'm pretty sure Lee fucked him and his family out of royalties decades ago
>>220351167I'm surprised they haven't tried making Miles the absolute most God-tier superhero in the history of the universe at this point just to get him over.Last I checked they were trying to push the narrative he was the most important superhero to have been born
>>220350569How is the new Gavan show anyway? I've seen that they fight the same monster every episode almost.
>>220351167>>220351113The push for Miles is related to the push against MJ/Peter, but not because of liberal worship of black people.They're rooted in the same problem of Marvel preferring Spider-Man as a teen/young adult hero which means he can't grow up. The glazing of Miles is literally just Marvel switching targets from teen/young Peter to a different young Spider-Man character, who is effectively JUST Peter but as a young black kid. People have been criticizing comics Miles for a LONG time in how he lacks enough of his own individual character to stand out from Peter, especially in light of how MCU Peter is literally just White Miles.The glazing of Miles is meant to poorly hide the fact that they're still not making him distinct from Peter and want to distract you with shitty hype moments and aura and trick you into thinking he's cool now. He's still not.The only reason why Peter keeps getting trashed is to punish the fans who keep showing up to buy Spider-Man comics and demand MJ/Peter while not liking how OMD and beyond is antithetical to everything up until that point, as well as creative bankruptcy at Marvel as a general problem. Also see Tom Brevoort's infamous statement regarding how angry fans are fans who buy comics which shows how he doesn't understand that if you piss fans off hard enough, anger turns into apathy and no sales.>>220351113The refusal to undo OMD stems from how editorial wants Spider-Man comics to resemble the brief period of time in which Peter wasn't dating MJ in the comics while he was in college, because it was what THEY grew up on. It's a VERY tiny part of his history but they're so selfish and nostalgia-poisoned that they're willing to tear everything down to get more of what they grew up on.It's why Didio tanked 90s and 2000s DC while he was in charge because it wasn't what he grew up on.
>>220351474Not great but not terrible. It's just really fucking weird and not really like any previous Gavan seasons.
>>220351609Now, as for why Miles is still getting pushed even though he doesn't sell as well...>ESG/DEI mandates courtesy of Blackrock (having a black Spider-Man means Marvel's execs earn money even if they don't make the comics actually interesting)>exploiting the popularity of the Spider-Verse films and Miles appearing in adaptations>trying to double-dip and have TWO "young Spider-Men" (ignore the fact that Peter is almost thirty at this point) even though Miles is modern Young Peter but with even LESS of what makes Modern Peter or Classic Peter interesting >Marvel editorial sucking off Bendis >trying to get people to forget about Kaine and Ben Reily
>>220343782It was made for 8 year olds you retarded brownie. Why are you a grown ass adult wasting brain power on a shit for children?
>>220351247>I'm pretty sure Lee fucked him and his family out of royalties decades agoDitko literally sued Stan Lee in like, 1981 or something
>>220346695Why do nonwhites love shitty cgi so much?
>>220351609It's worth pointing out that editorial HATES the fact that movie/animated adaptations keep doubling down on MJ/Peter because it's fed into fans being anti-OMD. You can kinda look at the recent fiasco regarding OMD when RedLetterMedia dipped their toes into the matter and got more people talking about how Marvel has fucked over Spider-Man.If there's one thing that Marvel editorial hates, it's seeing a successful Spider-Man series that isn't under their control. It's why they canned Marvel Adventures and Renew Your Vows and nu-Ultimate for outselling the mainline comics and/or for outdoing them at their own game/pushing MJ/Peter.
>>220351808>it's fed into fans being anti-OMDOMD is trash anyway, you don't need media adaptations pointing out an obvious truth
>>220351808To be fair, comics have been irrelevant since the big crash of 96. They only exist now to ensure the rights over the characters
>>220346695>US GARO series Only if they put it on HBO or ShowTime
>>220352175Would they be better off doing an English-language remake or just doing it's own thing with established Garo lore?
>>220352327The mainstream is allergic to Asian heroes, especially now with China taking America's place as a superpower, so it's safer to make a Garo remake in America. Expect tons of diversity
>>220352327The latter, just take established stuff like the armors (GARO, ZERO, KIBA, JINGA, Hagane), Makai Order, roles of Knights and Priests, Horrors, and do it's own things The anime seasons are all generally their own thing
>>220352374>185 KB JPG>>>220352327 >The mainstream is allergic to Asian heroes,Says who? Godzilla Minus One was a major success in America and the hero is a Japanese man, shows like Warrior and Tokyo Vice ran multiple seasons on HBO, one of network television's biggest shows right now is 9-1-1 which has Chimney as a main character
>>220352535I apologize, I am drunk
>>220352374Anime, which is imported from Japan, is mainstream in America and preferred with subsK Dramas are booming in popularity in America
>>220352692Most anime fans are chuds and they pretend anime characters are white. In fact, they claim that they love anime for having an "all-white" cast and nigger fatigue. About k-dramas, the performers are mutilated to look white
>>220343913>After all, Operation Wolf can only be carried out by a true Wolf Mandamn this nigga spittin facts
>>220343913Why does the cyborg werewolf have finger missiles?
>>220352374>allergic to Asian heroesIs it?
>>220348800>Kamen Rider is Japan’s equivalent to Batman>Super Sentai is Japan’s equivalent to Superman
>>220352938>Trusting your life to a grown man calling himself Captain Marvelous
suit design ain't what it used to be anymore
>>220353729What I don't get, though, is how they completely nailed the G-Series aesthetics for G6 and then seemingly threw away the book for G7. Did they just think it was a worthy sacrifice for the futuristic look?
>>220354123G6 despite being a new suit, it's just a recolored mix of G3 and G3-X, when they have to do a new design they don't nail it like they did back then
