https://variety.com/2026/film/news/james-cameron-sued-avatar-qorianka-kilcher-1236740068/
Is there such a thing as an indigenous actress? Sure, some have natural talent but even then it takes years of honing those skills.
>>220351896>Same hair.>Same skin color.>Same face shape.>Same necklace.I call bullshit.
indian americans don't have the same white guilt pull like they used to
The only thing these two creatures have in common is that they are not white.
If this is based on something Jim said at some point, then he deserves to lose money for being stupid
Was she the actress who played Pocahontas in The New World by Terrence Malick? Yeah I looked it up and she is.
>>220351976He’s cooked >According to the filing, Kilcher and Cameron first met briefly at a charity event just months after the 2009 release of “Avatar.” At that event, Cameron personally invited Kilcher to visit his office. When she arrived approximately one week later, Cameron was out and a member of his staff presented Kilcher with a framed print of a sketch Cameron had made. Attached to the print was a handwritten note from Cameron reading: “Your beauty was my early inspiration for Neytiri. Too bad you were shooting another movie. Next time.”
>>220351997she's not even full injun but wanna milk that as much as she can
>>220352008>Kilcher learned the truth late last year when a broadcast video interview with Cameron began circulating on social media. In the interview, Cameron stands in front of the Neytiri sketch and specifically identifies Kilcher: “The actual source for this was a photo in the L.A. Times, a young actress named Q’orianka Kilcher. This is actually her…her lower face. She had a very interesting face.”
>>220352023Yeah if that interview actually did take place, he did say that and it is being circulated, it seems like a legitimate grievance in my opinion. It isn't as if James Cameroon was hurting for cash at the time of Avatar's production. Although she may have requested some ridiculous fee for using her likeness.
>>220351976Yep, it appears that Jim brought this upon himself, while doing promo for Fire and Ash.
>>220352008>>220352023yeah, she should fucking skin for as much as she canwhy the fuck would he ever admit that shit without paying her off?
>>220352008May we see it?
>>220352059
>>220352015It’s always the mutts
>>220351896EZ money for the sub5 moid I guess
I hope they kill each other.
>>220352105kek, and she's Jewel Kilcher cousin or 2nd cousin
>>220352057that is a weak fucking lawsuit but they will probably toss her a bottle of whiskey and a handful of beads to settle it quickly.
>>220352135I can't believe her family was on that Alaskan TV show
>>220352008>>220352023>>220351896AAAAAAAHH HAHAHAHA FAGGOT
>>220351896But ...it doesn't look anything like her. It looks like it's based on the voice actress.
>>220351896Just another frivolous lawsuit in the hopes of making a quick buck. Typical for this goy lawsuit country.
It was nice seeing her in Life of Chuck. I had no idea she was still acting.But yeah, fair play to her.
>>220352053>it seems like a legitimate grievance in my opinionDon't be ridiculous. He referred to the "lower" part of her face as the inspiration of a sketch. She should be thankful that he even mentioned her name at all.
>>220351896>Q'oriankaHow are they satisfied with such absurd names
>>220352289Yes, she should.Because in doing so, he's probably liable.
Hopefully the judge will dismiss this case and make the greedy, indian giving, barely injun pay for his legal fees.
>>220352008instead of being happy about being called beautiful and inspirational she decides to try to rob himshe doesn't even look anything like her
>>220352347Doesn’t matter. Cameron said he used her face, on video. She’s owed money
>>220352008>>220352023ok so fucking what? You don't own the rights to your likeness. If I draw a picture of Hilary Clinton I don't have to pay her mon
>>220352368Incorrect, injun sympathizer.
>>220352368You're owed a bullet
>lives naked in the jungle>has a lawyerExplaim!
>>220352023Has this stupid faggot ever had an original thought enter his empty Boomer skull?
>>220352378if you make an "original" character but tell people multiple times it's based on someone who actually exists, and then make billions of money on whatever that character is used for, and that real person either already knows or finds out your character is based on their face, they can sue youThis is like when Marvel made the Ultimate universe and Ultimate Nick Fury was Samuel L Jackson with an eyepatch. They didn't ask his permission, and when he found out, he gave them permission, but he could've sued if he wanted to.
>>220352420Citation? What's the legal precedence here
>>220352378>You don't own the rights to your likeness.you literally do
>>220352442You can look it up for yourself, he already gave you a very succinct rundown complete with a prime example, don’t be greedy with your spoon feeding ya faggot
>>220352378>You don't own the rights to your likenesslmao
>>220352442nigga, you can't draw a picture of someone and start selling it without permissionI don't know what the specific law would be, but I know you simply can't legally do that
>>220352471>nigga, you can't draw a picture of someone and start selling it without permissionWatch me
>>220352445>>220352468A person's likeness is public use because it is available publicly
>>220352347Indian Giver is a term for a reason
>>220352484yeah, retard, you probably wouldn't be arrestedbut you're not james cameron making billions from having done so, and admitting you did soThat's why I used also the example of Marvel Comics, or you in a scenario where you make a ton of money, because then you'd be an actual target worth suing at that pointbut no, if you draw a picture of this native bitch getting gangbanged by pilgrims at plymouth rock, you'd be fineBUT if you tweeted it and tagged her name and it got 100,000 views, twitter would remove it when she asks them to, and then she might still try to sue you
>>220351896good luck with that.zoe IS neyney. always has been.
>>220352442Crispin Glover vs. Universal City Studios, Inc., et al.
>>220352495"public use" does not include monetization you might be thinking of "public domain" where you could legally burn copies of the original night of the living dead and sell it if you wanted, because the ownership rights defaulted to "no one"
>>220352573No I'm talking about public use as in her face should be publicly used as a toilet
>>220352591well if you did, even consensually, and recorded it, even consensually, but for private consumption, and then tried to monetize it on COLONIZED dot com, she could sue you
>>220351896Just give her a couple bottles of whiskey and I'm sure she'll call the whole thing even.
>>220352347>instead of being happy about being called beautiful and inspirational she decides to try to rob himShe's been quiet about it for years so she probably was content until some greedy lawyer in her social circle, after hearing her recount the story, convinced her that she's been oppressed and victimized and thus, entitled to millions. What's worse is that if she does somehow get anything, it'll be based on a technicality of JC's own efforts to compliment her rather than any actual resemblance.
>>220351896I thought there was an old paperback from the early 80s where he ripped off the Na'vi look?
Heya hoya, how much wampum, firewater and boomsticks is she owed by pale face?
>>220352135i used to always jerk it to her titties
>>220351896Update me when something comes out of it
>>220352309Better than all the gentiles walking around with Hebrew names because of muh bible. More people should embrace their actual ethnic naming instead of erasing their culture for a religious larp.
That won't hold up in court since a blue alien is too different from a human to be able to claim your likeness has been stolen.
Is that Spread Eagle from the Imaho tribe? *yes, it's a real person and tribe, I saw it on YouTube and FB.
>>220352309they are very satisfied. here in canada places are being given injun names that are completely unreadable
Is she a sea injun (poly) or a regular injun or a meti injun (iino)?
>>220353174I don't think so, but the plot of the first movie is 100% ripped off from an old short story called Call Me Joe.
>>220352008>early inspirationmeans nothing. She wont get a penny
>>220353486>they are very satisfied. here in canada places are being given injun names that are completely unreadableI've noticed that. I think they intentionally added like 30 different diacritics or accents and unnecessarily complicated spellings to their pseudo languages and names because they think it makes them look unique more than any actual differentiation or pronunciation requirements. Same with blacks making up history to justify their affinity for unconventional names that they really only used because they thought it sounded cool.
>>220353247>More people should embrace their actual ethnic naming insteadAnd from what ethnicity does your name derive, De'Glocktavious?
absolute nothingburger
>>220352368where's the video?
Kek MCU tards trying their hardest
>>220353763https://youtu.be/5ktScni0i0w?si=C0Q8Isf3Ni_BkIGc&t=961
>>220351896>pulling this little stunt against a character that is literally, demonstrably, and necessarily modeled on Zoe Saldana???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>>220353829ok he’s fucked
>>220353868This is like if Leonard Cohen tried to sue the creators of Rain Man for stealing his appearance to use for the retarded guy
>>220353868It's only possible to pull the stunt because of >>220352057 Jim saying Neytiri was modeled on Kilcher's face multiple times. You can debate how much resemblance to her there really is in the finished films, but the fact remains Jim says the intent was there
>>220352378lol retard but that’s the fly in the ointment…apply it to anything. I can make a movie about a basketball player Ledron Tames who plays for the Los Angeles Takers… and there ain’t shit either could do about it. i would just have to say it’s a parody and that I won’t be selling merch that looks lakers inspired. but if i called LeBron up and said “i just based a character on you, it’s animated, we used technology to put your face and body on it.” and he has the call recorded? game over.
>>220351896>Avatar sisters>Not like this>we were suppose to be one with the planet>we were suppose to be the good guys
beauty always inspire artso i dont see this as an issue at alliain mcCaig used natalie portman as inspiration for princess amidala and george lucas cast her because of thatthat being said, i dont believe jc shouldve said anything
>>220354189>iain mcCaig used natalie portman as inspiration for princess amidala and george lucas cast her because of thatyou just explained why it wouldn't be an issuejust like the nick fury samuel l jackson example
Wait, she's not indigenous from the North, isn't she half Peruvian? Her dad is some shaman and her mom's German.
>>220354205yeah, but they ended up casting those actors they used as inspirationso this whole this is iffyi stand on beauty being an inspiration for artbut i dont think that beauty has the right to claim the art it inspired
>>220352417Lmaoo why are you so mad at James Cameron?
>>220354246>yeah, but they ended up casting those actors they used as inspirationyes, that's WHY it wouldn't be an issueif samuel L jackson somehow never noticed ultimate nick fury was him, and then they got some lookalike nigga to be in the movies, and then jackson was like "wait this motherfuckers are making billions using my face" he could've sued
>>220352023Harlan Ellison would be laughing his ass off at this if he was still alive
>>220354265>he could've suedhe was gonna suebut marvel said well give you a nine picture deal insteadthats according to google
>>220351896Unfortunately, the way the law is set up, you can own a photo of your face but you can’t own your “likeness”. When Nintendo made Zelda Ocarina of Time, people speculated that they modeled Link on Leonardo DiCaprio. When Squaresoft made FFVIII, they modeled Squall on River Phoenix. And neither of them could be sued because what they did wasn’t illegal.
>>220354265yeah, he did find out about it during the early ultimates run
>>220354284that's not possiblethey were using his face for fury since 2001, he gave them permission to continue doing so after he became aware of this. >August 2005 Interview>The Diva>Copyright Kamal Larsuel , 2005>So I figured I’d just ask you a few questions from the website.>Okay>Did you know that your likeness is being used for the character of Nick Fury?>Yeah I know. We talked about it. It’s cool.
>>220354323the agreement was the nine picture deal
>>220354338no, nigga>The crew conceived a post-credits scene featuring Nick Fury and called Samuel L. Jackson to ask him if he would be interested in playing Fury, as Jackson had learned a few years earlier that his likeness had been used for Fury in the Ultimate Marvel comics imprint. However, according to Latcham, Jackson originally appeared without any deal for him to reappear in later films: "It was just this weird idea that maybe people give a shi-- if we stick it on the end"His inclusion in Iron Man was a fairly last-minute thing, the scene originally included direct references to spider-man and shit, this was before the MCU was solidly planned out
>>220354072You're so retarded. Her face was inspiration for concept art, and probably affected casting choices. The likeness of the character in the finished product is a scan of the voice actress. None of the final material involves the indian chick. She has no gounds for her suit.
>>220354369Cameron literally gave her the grounds.
>>220354378No, he did not. He made no money off of the unauthorized use of her likeness, because he didn't use her likeness. She's taking a shot in the dark hoping for a quick settlement from his insurance.
>>220354363hey dummyjackson literally met with byran hitch, the artist of ultimates YEARS before ironman was even a thingso shut your pie hole, your info is wronghttps://bleedingcool.com/comics/bryan-hitch-samuel-l-jackson-nick-fury-jonathan-ross-show/
>>220354406>he didn't use her likeness>"Little injun girl, your face is partially the basis for Neytiri, I present you this gift of a drawing in lieu of a profit percentage"years later>"Yeah, we based Neytiri on this little redskin chick, she's probably dead now from meth use or whatever, who cares, anyways"
>>220354413Yes, retard.What are you even trying to argue?I'm saying they made Ultimate Fury Samuel L Jackson because they thought it would be cool, they didn't ask permission. Jackson found out, met with them, and said it was okay. I doubt if they even paid him anything.There would be legitimate discussion of movies featuring black Nick Fury at the time, and certainly no discussion of 9-picture crossover film franchise contracts.
>>220354440you said it was a last minute decision to include nick fury at the end of ironmanno, this was planned years in advance with samuel l jackson agreeing with the nine picture deal
>>220354363why you deny facts? even Ai >>220354303 is shitting right on you moron.
>>220354463>no, this was planned years in advance with samuel l jackson agreeing with the nine picture dealno, it wasn'tIf you're basing that on the fact that he personally met with an artist at Marvel, you're insaneThey came up with the Fury cameo during production of Iron Man 1, he was too expensive to cameo in Incredible Hulk, and then for Iron Man when he had a non-cameo role he would've been signing contracts.
>>220354478>even AIsaaar>this ultimately led to Fury being cast in the roleYes, 7ish years later. The decision to cast Jackson in Iron Man (2008) was not made in the year 2001.
>>220354483niggershut up
>>220353829Watch more than the brief segment where he says her name. Without context it sounds damning, but with context her argument completely falls apart. Hell just the immediate follow up after mentioning her says it all:>Not that she was the inspiration for the character, but I just wanted to show how a specific person's look could come through in the character. And that was important because the second we cast Zoe, we started, you know, Neytiri suddenly looked like Zoe.This isn't even him trying to explain away a controversy, it's his honest insight. Her likeness was only used because her portrait happened to be in a newspaper at the time. He spent more time talking about how they were using cats and anime as the basis, but he wanted to make the Na'vi look less alien and generally appealing by humanizing them. He could have grabbed any woman's portrait for the same exercise and Neytiri would have still wound up looking like Zoe's fursona. If the note exists and is legitimate it still spells it out cleanly: she was at best an early inspiration but all vestiges of her are absent in the final product. "Too bad" lol. I could see him paying her a pity sum out of court just to brush her of, he can easily afford it, but if she tries to pursue anything substantial she's going to get destroyed. She should have tried this around one of the releases to put more pressure on him.
>>220354497Are you just retarded and you thought the summary phrase>which ultimately led to him agreeing to a nine-picture deal with Marvel happened immediately upon the creation of Black Nick Fury?"Marvel" was not even an active film production studio at the time. You think they had Samuel J Jackson on the hook for 9 fucking movies almost a decade before they'd even made their first movie? Which they needed Paramount to distribute?
>>220351896Jimmy's not so hot right now, huh?
>>220354540As an additional note for why this retarded AI jeet is a fucking idiot, the David Hasselhoff Nick Fury movie came out in 1998, made by Fox, and they probably still had the rights to the character up until the mid-00s, when Marvel started buying shit back for themselves where they could
>leftoid getting pestered by one of the brown people he worshipsI hope she gets literally all his money
>>220352368lol
>>220354493>saaarYou retarded or just scream random shit for no reason?
>>220354674saaarry, punjesh
>>220354674He's calling you Indian.
>>220354681so retarded then.
>>220354691>retardednot as retarded as1) relying on AI for an answer2) not even actually understanding the answer AI gave you
>>220354369*oh also i'm trans btw
>>220354695its basically search filter it does what it does best, search for information.
She has zero case. The issue is not whether you used someone as inspiration, but whether the resulting work is recognizable as that person to a reasonable viewer.Nobody looks at Ney'tiri and associates it with her. Cameron's legal team will eat her alive.
>>220354719how great can it be if it makes simpletons think Samuel L Jackson signed his MCU deal before the MCU existed?
>>220351962> indian americans don't have the same white guilt pull like they used toIts hard when you have actual well documented genocides, then the Canadian First Nations just constantly make up shit like "This is an Indian graveyard" and when people dig it up there is not a single bone to be found, or the Australian Aboriginals whose culture was completely eradicated by the Stolen Generation have been weaponised by the Australian government to prevent so many major infrastructure projects using a mythos that is entirely reconstructed from diaries of people who wanted to demean their ways and convert them to Christianity. Native Americans, a lot of the time, kept their language and their culture, and their casinos and other businesses are very successful to the point where their people live comfortably on welfare in family oriented communes. They kinda get lumped in with a bunch of other retards
>>220354540what's so hard to get? They fucked up and when he learned instead of suing them they make a deal that after a while lead to the 9 movies contract. Jackson says so, Comic author says so, Marvel says so, but you sit here and say its impossible and never happened. Well okay then? its like your fucking opinion vs them.
>>220354769no one said he signed the contract before MCU retard. They had a deal that he will get some compensation for them using his looks.
>>220354827>after a whileYeah, almost a decade.He did not agree to allow them to use his likeness based on an angreement made then that they would've had no way of honoring.>>220354844Yes, retard, you did.You said he didn't sue because they have him a 9 picture deal. That didn't happened until years and years later.
>>220354868>He did not agree to allow them to use his likeness based on an angreement made then that they would've had no way of honoring.>potential likeness dispute in 2001 - negotiation till 2008~ - casting agreement in 2008~
>>220352008>inspirationHe walks free
>>220354868here is logic >>220354885 do you comprehend simple logic?
>>220351896LOLI'd go to an Avatar themed Casino on whatever reservation they build it on (except sacred ground)Indian burial grounds is how America got poltergeists (true story)
>>220351896is she saying she's a cat alien? I'm confused here.... there's no similarities
>>220352008That's like Tom Cruise suing Disney for taking inspiration from him for Aladdin
>>220354270Nah Ellison would be trying to find some tenuous connection between Avatar and something he wrote 50 years ago to try and sue Cameron for credit again.
>>220351896Sucks to be blue.
>>220351896doesn't look similar to memaybe she can prove it
>>220351946Kek
>>220352008He invited a 15 year old girl into his office and left her a gift calling her beautiful? Oh no, people won't like that.
>>220352417Harlan Ellison is a fraud and his allegations over Terminator are almost entirely without merit. To the extent they have any merit at all, Ellison plagiarized in his own work and never cited his influences ever, despite making legal threats when he found anything with even marginal similarity to something he wrote.
>nobody could tell Cameron used her likeness until he said he did (use it as an inspiration for an early sketch of the character concept that didn't make it into production)Really makes you think
>>220351896>>220352008>>220352023>>220352347>>220352378Why are foids like this, bros? Hundreds of thousands of years of evolution so half of the human species would compromise artistic achievement for their own selfish gain
>>220351896>>220352057>white leftist man uses his "ideals" as an excuse to exploit minorites for his own profitWhy is this occurrence so common?
>>220353661>>220352309lmao whites being snowflake over name
>>220354681>ad hominemlol lmao
>>220351896>directed his design team to use it as the foundationSince when is it illegal to get inspired by actual people's faces for a character design? Particularly when the inspiration is a published photo?I'd argue that pretty much all character designs ever (at least those detailed enough to have distinct features, i.e. not cartoons) have some real-life inspiration.
>>220354156>but if i called LeBron up and said “i just based a character on you, it’s animated, we used technology to put your face and body on it.” and he has the call recorded? game over.this is more like if you made a movie about giant blue space cats that played basketball, used lebron as early inspiration, went through a dozen different iterations of the character, hired glen powell to play him, made the character look like glen powell, then told lebron "yeah, you were an early inspiration" because you like lebron, but the character bares no resemblance to him any more
Even if it's inspired by her, if he didn't directly use the exact same facial proportions then it won't fly. Enough is different and if it's only based on a and drawn sketch that looks sort of like her then it won't be enough.Jim is an old cuck though and can afford to throw 20 mil at this stupid bitch so he'll feel like less of a white devil and be able to sleep at night. It will be settled.
>>220359614At least you get itI can't believe the idiots defending him ITTHe's going to apologize and cut a check because that's who he is>"Here's my philosophy in general. The people who have been victimised historically are always right. It's not up to me, speaking from a perspective of white privilege to tell them that they're wrong."I don't even begrudge her going for it. Get that fire water, squaw.
Generating Na'vi using Grok Imagine is hot. You can get them to speak in their own language. idk what they are saying but it gets me hard.
>>220351946You made me smile.
>>220351896She wishes she had that jawline and where did her forehead go did her mother drink?
>>220354781messicans be like:
>>220359706checks out
>>220352565That was settled out of court numbnuts. It's not a legal precedent.
>>2203531741950s actually. He's lucky he ripped off a dead goy instead of a live jew.>The story involves a future program by humans to explore and settle the surface of the planet Jupiter. (At the time of publication, it was considered plausible that the planet had a solid surface.) Because the Jovian environment is extreme (gravity, pressure, temperature, hydrogen/ammonia atmosphere, liquid methane)—and thus humans cannot descend to the surface—a prototype synthetic life-form is created and remote-controlled by technologically enhanced telepathy (psionics). This intelligent creature (which happens to resemble a centaur) is inserted among the native Jovian life-forms, none of which are sentient beyond a rudimentary level. The controller and operator of this artificial body is a severely disabled human.
>>220360173Is it on model though?
>>220351896>That blue skin, cat alien looks just meDo shitskins really?
>>220352008>He’s cookedlots of times this has happened in the past. the flinstones being an obvious example.
>>220358471Creating problems and never being satisfied with peace or stability is literally their evolutionary utility, anon. We would not have built pyramids or gone to space if we didnt have near-literal hellhounds snapping at our heels and spurring us forward from the Cave. Men are action, women are animus.
>>220352008>after the 2009 release of “Avatar.”
The foid is obviously in the wrong and this shouldn't be grounds to get an easy pass and several millions in her account, but in the other hand, Cameron is an anti-white cuck so he deserves to lose this so he can learn a valuable lesson.
>>220361635Huh, and here I always was just thinking it was just the God-given Male urge to check out that cool mountain in the distance that got out of control and made man-made horrors beyond comprehension...
>>220361834You cant produce sons with cool mountains.
>>220361876You produce sons to have someone to tell "hey son check out that cool mountain, I wonder what lies on the other side..." and have company along the way to share in the newfound glories of discovery. I never really put females in the equation honestly.
>>220361977>I never really put females in the equation honestly.Save for the icky sex part of course, silly me!
>>220351896Yo Jim, can I get some of those billies too please?
>>220352008>>220352023Based Cameron. This is why he’s one of the few directors left who can still produce kino. He has an artistic soul, even has a muse, like Beatrice in Dante’s poetry.
big deal, she'll get a few million and cameron gets free publicity
>>220351896>nuking your acting career over a frivolous lawsuit that will almost certainly not pay anythingI hope she's made the conscious decision to give up on acting and is just throwing up a hail mary for diversity bux, because she'll never work in the industry again
>>220351896I'm pretty sure the likeness of the Navi was based on.... the actors who had CGI superimposed over their facesNeytiri doesn't look like that Sacagawea bitch, she looks like Zoe Saldana, because that's Zoe Saldana
>>220351896Lawyer here, this will not fly in courts.
>>220363903Sociologist here, that was obvious to everyone.
don't artists rip a ton of "references" that are legally dubious all the time?
>>220352008coomeronbut no, he didnt scan her face, maybe she was an inspiration to write whole movie and character, but she doesnt look like herbtw 14yo in this pic
>>220351946
>>220352058>yeah, she should fucking skin him.this, she should fucking scalp him.>>220357991desu this is the real scandal, her lawyers fucked up by not pushing this angle to get a quiet settlement by threatening to make James Cameron look like a pedophile.>Adult Neytiri was based on a 14-year-old girl>13-year-old Kiri is based on a 75-year-old Sygourney Weaverkek
Who gives a fuck lol....I thought we were finally done talking about Avatar for a few years or forever hopefully
>>220361834And then they complain about it. Don't overthink his post, he's a fucking moron.
>>220351896The blue sex smurf is 14? I will now watch your movie.
>>220352417also plagiarized Titanic TV movies and Pocahontas
>>220364129>14...or 40
>>220351896I like her work, but I don't see any significant resemblance here.
>>220358417What did he plagiarize then?
>>220360879oh man that ones really good
>>220366843I've never heard of it. Is it worth a read?
>>220352378>If I draw a picture of Hilary Clinton I don't have to pay her monyou would have to if you sell that picture
>>220367830Maybe in the US of A. But not anywhere in the civilized world.
>>220351896she looks a lot like my QVEEN
>>220351896cameron is a plagiarist piece of shithe plagiarized terminator from ellison and he plagiarized avatar from ferngully
>>220370267Ferngully mogs slopitarTerminator is GOATed tho
>>220370267>ellisonyeah he's the suing type. he plagiarized it too.
>>220370267Terminator isn't plagiarized at all from ellison he's a fucking hack.
>>220352023>she only realized it was here when someone blatantly said itDoesn't it mean it looks nothing like her if even she herself didn't even notice it at all?
>>220351896They face scanned a completely different actress for this character.The fuck is she playing at?This is like trying to get a paycheck because they considered you for a role.
