>>220360947A nolan film will never bomb.
>>220361338I don't think this one will, but I think it will destroy his reputation for future movies
>>220360947>divine European beautyHomer never said that
>>220361730He said "white armed" or something like that
>account based in india
>/tv/ - Twitter vaginal discharges and id/pol/ drama.
why so many world famous beauties Albanian girls but no greek? kkkk
>>220362286in your ass
>>220362259Meds aren't white. Us inbred anglos and Germans had to introduce you backwards fags to pederasty and incest. The only thing you have going for you is the white man's religion Christianity was first written in a nonwhite language
>>220361338this will be the 1st. who is the audience? people interested in history and facts won't like it, kids don't want to watch this shit, teenagers are on their phones 24/7. so who is the audience.once again, woke idiots with bluesky accounts have made a bad decision that will cost regular people their jobs
>>220360947>The Gayreek had to AI generate a pretty girl because there's no pretty Gayreek girls
>>220362408What is the difference between a blue sky poster who worships blacks and maga tards like you who worship jews and the death and destruction they bring? Do we need another Bible story where you pretend it was a white dude when in reality it was a kike?
>>220360947Greeks don't look like either pic desu
>>220360947>a bunch of fat wogs won't take time out of abusing their daughters to go see a movieI'm sure the loss of revenue will be profound.
>>220362259“White-armed” (leukōlenos) is a stock poetic epithet used for aristocratic women generally. It signifies femininity, beauty, and elite status: women pale from being indoors rather than laboring outside in the sun. It’s the same symbolic logic you see across tons of premodern societies where elite women are praised for fairness because it implies wealth and leisure.Chuds see the word “white” and immediately start hallucinating modern race science into a Bronze Age oral poem. Homer is not saying Helen was “racially European.” He’s using a conventional poetic marker for noble femininity. The entire argument depends on polcels being historically illiterate enough to think Homeric Greeks were secretly 21st-century ethnonationalists.
>>220360947actual greeks dont care about american media,they know,like most europeans that hollyweird is full of LGBT activists and rapists and kid lovers and their movies are degenerate globohomo slop.
>>220362505t. the epstein race
the beauty of the Mediterranean woman must be preserved at all costs, wether it be Levantine, Italian or Balkanic.
>>220362512So now explain the darkskinned sheboon on the right.
>>220362545>saar please be to being hating the america
>>220362512You're expecting the descendents of inbred cattle farmers who worship nobility that isn't even from the same country as them to understand that?
>>220362512>Homer is not saying Helen was “racially European"he didn't say she's not either. why make her african?
>>220362344did you do the deed saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar?
>>220362593This. Helen of Troy was supposedly so beautiful she was in bed with basically every political leader across an entire generation. She slept her way to the top in every circumstance. Nobody would sleep with a nigress willingly lmao.
I hate when ESLs write something in their original language but then ask AI to translate it.I'd rather just read ESL texts.
>>220362512This is the same thing you brownoids pulled with Hermione and Snape in the new Harry Potter thing.>just because it said white, it doesn't actually mean white
>>220362552Shame about the refrigerator doodle tattoos.
>>220362408>people interested in history and facts won't like itfilms being historically inaccurate has never stopped them from earning tons of money>kids don't want to watch this shitthe only nolan movies that kids even flocked to see was the dark knight trilogy because capeshit>teenagers are on their phones 24/7so are adults, yet movies still earn billions of dollars, even in the age of streaming
>>220362580I am whiter than you,Jamal
>>220362696Sure you are, Poohinder. You're one of the high caste ones, right?
>>220362658Yeah I had to watch Brad Pitt not be a faggot in Troy as was the most accurate depiction of Pagan worshipping eurocucks greatest hero that inspired their even gayer real life hero Alexander The Fucking Gay. the Epstein Race indeed
>>220360947>"I owe this to my Ancestors">worships a rabbi called Yeshua ben Typhon instead of the Gods of her Homeric AncestorsGreeks are pathetics people, same as italians.
I would bet every dollar in my bank account that this is not actually the account of a real "greek woman"
>>220362286This. If you don't want to look at blacks, you must be Indian.
>>220362632Your incel knee-jerk response is especially stupid because it ignores both genre and historical context. In modern English, written by a contemporary author inside a modern racial framework, “white” usually does in fact denote racial appearance. In Homeric Greek, it does not function that way, as I already explained. “White-armed” is no more a statement about "European racial identity" than "rosy-fingered Dawn" means the sunrise literally has pink human fingers. It’s conventional poetic language. Homer also calls the sea "wine-dark". The funniest part is that you incels constantly insist context matters right up until context destroys one of your culture-war talking points. Then suddenly a Bronze Age oral poet is apparently using words exactly like a 2020s American race realist on Twitter. Historically illiterate chud thinking at its finest.
>>220362752The jokes write themselves
>>220362772Thanks BlueskyGPT
>>220362772>saar, I am the white and you are the bhenchod
>>220362821>>220362837No argument. As I expected.
>>220362850Yes, yes. The Greeks were always black. You made your point. Helen of Troy was black, Cleopatra was black.
>>220362658times have changed you dumbass. or hadn't you noticed? people have rejected wokeness in all forms. this film will teach hollywood a lesson.
>>220362890Strawman.
>>220362467One's religion is a general egalitarian stateism, the other's religion is Christianity which carried Christendom into world dominance until they dropped it for materialism.
Am I taking crazy pills or has Lupita not even been confirmed to play Helen of Troy yet?
>>220362895>people have rejected wokeness in all forms.you would only think this if you exclusively use 4chan as a source on the average persons beliefs
>>220362928If it turns out she's not Helen, they'll just declare victory and claim public pressure forced Nolan to recast it at the last minute instead of reflecting on how stupid it is to get preemptively mad about rumored racial casting.
Helen is barely in the story. This is not Iliad, you fucking retards.
>>220362928She was sitting next to Menelaus (Burn Local) in the other trailer so it's not an unreasonable leap
>>220360947>my ancestorsModern Greeks are Turkish rape babies. Ancient Greeks went extinct by 250 BC.
>>220363016The trojan horse infiltration part wasn't in the original Odyssey either
>>220363016your DEI trash will flop
>>220363037>whites exterminating a historically black populationMany such cases. The same thing happened with the land currently called Scotland.
>>220363047It also wasn't in the Iliad.
Greeks can boycott all they want, Reddit will make up for them
>>220362435lmao
>>220362772Is this a rage-bot? What century do you think you are in? Chud is a compliment you rootless urban parasite.
>>220363047That's probably a prologue.
>>220363098Right, so Nolan clearly isn't strictly just going off of the two homeric poems is he and may possibly add other parts of the trojan war myth?
>>220362772Point out where Homer describes her as being Sub-Saharan African.
>>220363062Okay Epstein lover remember to kiss your ethnostates wall
>>220362772You're retarded "wine-dark" is a mistranslation of "wine-eyed" which means drunken as in stormy seas.
>>220363149Regardless of any direct physical description, Helen and by extension Penelope (they're cousins) are both from Sparta so they're suppose to be ethnically greek
>>220363105>Is this a rage-bot?Unironically yes, the discord trannies have been putting in overtime lately. It’s all over a bunch of different boards. Sometimes it glitches out and responds to itself and will have a full on lefty vs lefty argument until the thread hits bump limit.
>>220363037
>>220363156Another palestinian child just died screaming. What are you gonna do about it faggot? Keep impotently spamming your discord tranny talking points?
>>220363149>Sub-SaharanWhy are incels so obsessed with this word?
>>220361338>A Nolan film will never bomb.
Cry harder, you pasty virgins. Bronze Age Mediterranean was a trade hub full of Africans, Phoenicians, and migrants. Homer himself mentions Ethiopians.
>>220363037>>220363065Are you guys freaking stupid or something? When the Muslim Turks( the Seljuk and Oghuz Turks) invaded Roman Anatolia, plenty of Roman Greeks and some Roman Armenians fled westward trying to get into Constantinople and Greece. Plenty of Armenians fled to Cilcia. Alexias Komnenos used the 1st Crusade to reconquer Western Anatolia. He later worked out an agreement with the Seljuk Turks of the Sultanate where more Greek-speaking Romans in Eastern Anatolia migrated to the Roman Western half of Anatolia. After his death, his son and grandson were recovering more and more of Anatolia until the disaster of Myriakephalon.Western Anatolia still had it's Greek-speaking population that remained largely Orthodox Christian. Same in Greece where the Greeks largely remained Orthodox Christian. Even after the fall of Constantinople and the Greeks and Armenians had to live under the oppression of the Ottoman Turks.Then there was the Greek War of Independence(the printing press helped) and some population exchanges but Ottoman Anatolia still had plenty of Christian Greeks and even Christian Armenians. That is until the Armenian and Greek genocides and ethnic cleansing. Many Greek refugees fled to Greece and the Armenian refugees fled to Armenia with the Ottoman Turks stealing their homes, similar to how modern day Israelis are stealing the homes of Palestinians.Greeks today are largely the same as the Greeks of the medieval era, with some Turkish genes from the Pecheneg Turks who converted to Christianity and became Romans during the middle 11th century. Modern day Turks in Turkiye have some Greek genetics, but that is primarily in Western Turkey since some Greeks converted to Islam or were descended from captured and enslaved Christians. Ottoman Turks were less likely to convert to Christianity since that would mean getting executed for leaving the Islamic religion.
>>220363277>Homer himself mentions EthiopiansChuds claim that Ethiopians were white, and when you show them that every ancient source describes them as black, they have a massive meltdown
>>220362552You retards keep posting this woman as some ethnic Greek beauty, meanwhile she's half Icelandic and that's why she looks Nordic lolhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christina_Tsoukala
>>220363211The Spartans were black.
>>220363274Because it emphasizes that the person being referred to is a shit-colored third worlder
>>220363277Helen of Troy wasn't ethiopian. Are you trolling or an 80 iq nigger?
>>220363302Ethiopia literally means "burnt face" kek
>>220363302Typical projection from the we wuz kangz crowd
>>220363327Chuds literally pretend that this means that Ethiopians were sunburnt Irish people.
>>220363305That's what ancient European greeks looked like before the turkroaches showed up in the 14th century.
>>220363345Source?
>>220363350oh no no no
>>220360947Greece and Italy are poor countries. Ppl there are to poor to afford tickets
>>220363350You will never be Greek, germ.
>>220363260the men got castrated and sold as slaves, sex-slaves or conscripted into the Janissary. no different than calling a octoroon an full blooded negro
>>220363345I’ve never seen this, but I have seen dirty slave descendant niggers claim that their ancestors were Egyptian royalty
>>220363376Whites and their brown slaves. Why are you doing this to yourself?
Post historically accurate adaptions of ancient Greek mythological figures. I'll start with Achilles.
>>220363368https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/220347703/#220348968
>>220363389octoroons are niggers thoughbeit so I’m not sure what your point is
>>220363385I'm white so I'm closer to ancient greeks that you, izzatcel.
>>220363399>mothers are white>sons are brownuhhhh white sisters??? has blacked been going on for millennia????
>>220363428saar
>>220363396https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Dynasty_of_EgyptMeanwhile, there were zero Angloid Pharaohs, yet chuds pretend that there were.
>>220362850Ancient greeks were indoeuropeans. They described egyptians as "dark skinned"Its clear our modern concept of race didn't exist back then but greeks clearly didn't consider themselves as african. Goddesses like Athena are always depicted with european/greek features, blue eyed and blonde. Even Homer always refers to her as blue eyedHelen is supposed to be so beautiful even the goddesses are jelly because SHE LOOKS LIKE THEM so its pretty obvious the character is supposed to be greek/european
>>220363428>Making up a narrative out of context based on an old picture.Just stop already. I feel sad for you.
>>220363276>made almost $400k theatrical on a 200k budget in the middle of fucking 2020not even a bomb
We wuz everythang
>>220360947next they'll be asking for the Norse gods not to be coal black apes either.
>>220363389A rapebaby descends from the person who was raped. Its literally in the name. An octoroon descends from a black person. Cope and seethe, chuddie.
>>220363435lol you did the thing
>>220363448>indoeuropeansSAAR
>>220363431>>220363450>the joke>your headThe point is that they're not brown men and white women just because the males are colored as tanned and the women are colored as albino. That's a stylistic thing that is found in different cultures. The real body color was somewhere in between.
>>220363463Oh no the bot is glitching out again
Isn't it crazy how every single thing in history and every single mythology is either black or indian?
>>220363476Telling the truth? I can see how that would be very triggering to little chuddies.
>>220363501Cradle of motherfucking civilization.
>>220363452>TENET had a budget of 200k
>>220363264Anglos and kikes are the strongest alliance the world has ever seen and anethema to people who don't like seeing children getting raped or bombed. The same inbred violence that plagues their brains plagues your cattle fucking brains as well
>>220363495You got btfo so hard chud. You are panicking now.
>>220363526I agree. They're all bloody basterd bhenchods.
>>220363260Chuddies really didn't think this through
>>220363305it's ok to be homosexual anon, it's 2026
>>220363274All these people are African. Africa of the ancient world was ethnically diverse and denoting the region is helpful in understanding which specific African ethnic group is being referenced otherwise you wouldn't have any idea otherwise. Most Africans that the Ancient Greeks would have come in contact with would be Berbers (Libyans) or Egyptians, not those from the Sub-Saharan regions. Do you also get upset when people make a distinction between Middle Easterners, Indians, Far East Asian and Southeast Asian instead of them simply calling them Asian?
>>220363526Cope brown vermin
>>220363593>instead of them simply calling them Asian?To be fair, it's mainly jeets and pakis who try to group all of those groups together.
>>220363593>Do you also get upset when people make a distinction between Middle Easterners, Indians, Far East Asian and Southeast Asian instead of them simply calling them Asian?He does, because he’s a smelly jeet and he wants all Asians to simply be called “Asians” so he can trick people into thinking he’s one of the good ones
>>220363623Tranny melty
>>220363302>Scholarly consensus places the composition of the The illiad (and Odyssey) roughly 750–650 BC, with many estimates centering around 725–675 BC)>Titrabiblios Book II was published 800 years after the illiad>Histories 2.22 was published 200-300 years after the illiad>The Anabasis of Alexander 5.4.4 was published 800 years after the illiad>Frag 16 was published 100-200 years after the iliiad>Diodorus Siculus Book 3 was published 600 years after the illiadLol, this retarded faggot is using sources centuries after Homer already composed all the existing oral myths into the illiad and way after the greeks would have had a better understanding of the african continent, and he thinks that retroactively makes Memnon black LOL.Here's another example of a greek figure who was described as an Aethopian, look how black she looks.
>>220363385Isreal is built upon the idea that these European mutt Jews are killing the logical ancestors of the ancient hebrews
>>220363662? I think your bot responded to the wrong post friend
>>220362982>rumoredThis movie is done, anon, it's coming out next month.
>>220363686Whiteidentity and supremacy is an Ashkenazi invention. Your supposed to have pride in where youre from white boy, you're not supposed to serve some vague idea of whiteness for the sole purpose of establishing an ethnostate for jews
What even is this threadIs the new discord tranny strategy to just spam the board with nonsense until everyone gets tired of it and leaves?
>>220363714Meds, ASAP
>>220363675All of these writers lived thousands of years closer to Homer than you, chud. Many of them are ancient Greeks. You aren't. Their view is more relevant to what ancient Greeks thoughts than yours, chud. Do you seriously dispute that?
>>220363762Your watching white identity crash now that half of you are starting to realize that you're just Jewish golems.
>>220363760Why is a shitskin trying to tell me what I’m supposed to be proud of? I really don’t understand
>>220363762Every thread on /tv/ is like this now. They just turn into thirdies rambling about /pol/shit after the first 10 or so replies.
>>220363803Oh so it’s just typical brownoid inferiority complex, gotcha
>>220363762Giving the third world access to the internet will go down in history as one of the biggest mistakes humanity ever made
>>220363843I'm in america. Thanks to your masters flooding your country with indians saar, we are both aryan Saar, upper caste like you saar
>the face that launched a thousand ships
>>220363909You can take the thirdie out of the third world, but you can’t take the third world out of the thirdie
>EVERYONE throughout history was sub-saharan african, chud!They have to rewrite history this way because, if they don't, then they would be forced to admit that all "black culture" amounts to is banging sticks together in africa and inner city street crime.
>>220363940...in the other direction
>>220363452>Made 400k on a 200k budget What??? Do you mean million?
>>220361338The odyssey will bomb. Too boring for niggers.
>>220363881Maybe if you keep accusing everyone of being jewish your fellow shitskins will stop getting bombedProbably not, but you might as well keep trying since you can’t do anything else
>>220362512Then why did Nolan cast a niggabooo jiggaboo nigress?
>>220360947>Greek journalist Sia Kosioni
>>220363802None of these quotes have any relevance to their view of post-Homeric myths. And it seems like you're conceding that "early" Memnon may not have been black but that later greeks for some reason decided that he was and now it's definitely "canon" to greek mythology. If you genuinely think that, you're an idiot.
>>220362552>literally perfect female specimen>ruins herself with retarded doodle tattoos
>>220364078chuds genuinely think they know more about ancient Greece than ancient Greeks.....
>>220363990yes
>>220361666He somehow survived Tenet which felt like an amateur film made by a high schooler on every level (except Pattinson, he's golden like always.)
>>220362512>white doesn't mean whitecope in 4k
>>220364697You will never be Greek.
>>220364035Maybe if you keep blowing up shitskins your sky daddy jew god will let you in where they get to go automatically
whats the point of race-swapping?
>>220363037Turks are Greek rape babies, you imbecile.
>>220360947Unfortunately, even if every Greek and Italian boycotted this movie it'll still make money.
Imo it was fundamentally different in the 1950s when they would cast actors like Robert Taylor or Steve Reeves to play Greeks or Romans. They did not look totally out of place and English was the dominant film language. It didn't break immersion and the stories were often strong, no matter where they were made. I didn't even mind them casting Brad Pitt and Diane Kruger because, though out of place it was only by a bit and they're extremely good looking people. But what Nolan has done seems like the worst of everything. Matt Damon didn't even bother to get a tan. Every bit of it that isn't nature just looks like shit and so out of place. I won't watch this movie.
>>220361338i shan't be watching it and I love the Odyssey and enjoyed Oppenheimer and most of his movies (not Tenet)
>>220362286Go cope somewhere else, heeb.
>>220363950Dey invenn'ed peanut buttah and music, bih
>>220360947I am Bulgarian and i will also be boycotting this movie. Greeks do not look like sub saharan Africans. Nolan is a faggot and his movie is as trash as that Cleopatra movie where they made Cleopatra black.
>>220365414I highly doubt it anon. Tenet failed commercially. Keep it up Med bros, lead the charge on this one. I've heard not one positive word about this among Americans or Brits I talk film with frequently. There's no excitement for this in the anglophone world. There's a lot more hate going around for it than I expected too but it's aimless. I think it will fail.
>>220361730he didn't have to, numb nuts
>>220363675>>220364078Coping unbelievably hard there, incel
OH YEAH
>>220365464>I didn't even mind them casting Brad Pitt and Diane Kruger because, though out of place it was only by a bit and they're extremely good looking peopleModern culture war people would like to argue that a cousin european person is just as egregious as casting niggers and trannies because they refuse to acknowledge greeks unironically used to 'look' a lot more white than the bulk of them today. They just exclude the light phenotype ones as examples and only choose to acknowleddge the ones with big arab noses and wooly hair, because all the frescos and historical descriptions are lying or something. >>220364055 and Jennifer Aniston, there are still plenty of modern examples of lighter phenotype greeks around.
>Greek portraits 1300 years before the Turk invasionUmmm... whitebros...how were they already rapebabies then???
>>220365277Only way to secure funding thanks to ESG, also retarded stipulations in order to be eligible for the Oscars
>>220365595The oral myths of the trojan war would have been around alot longer than when Homer composed the poem (and especially way before Hesiod, Xenophanes and Herodotus) so that timeline would have to be stretched back alot longer before Homer. Aethiopis is a lost poem and it lends more credence to the idea that he isn't black because it gives a direct lineage to two other figures who clearly weren't black themselves.Retarded faggot, this is like claiming that the ancient greeks all thought that Medusa was a rape victim who got cursed by Athena and then using Ovid's Metamorphosis as proof and then saying "well it was close enough to their time than it was to yours"
>>220365965>in some of the oral versions of the Trojan war that weren't preserved, Memnon may have been white!!!the desperation is getting INSANE, chud.
>>220365718I don't really play up that angle with med bros, because I don't know what of all that is true and don't want to disrespect them regardless. I know there are blonde and red haired Greeks with blue, green and gray eyes. It's rarer among them and always has been. It's more the a front to beauty. And Greeks I think in particular enjoy being like this civilizational overseer for Europe. They're good at it, like the girl in OP. Homer has always been a force of unity and literacy in Europe. People experience it, it's like those Naue type II swords the Mycenaeans carried - it was a European phenomena. When another European does the role, it's not necessarily a bad thing. Especially if it's not even in the original language. Those people who bitch about blondes without banter or fun on the other end of the argument are just resentful brown fags. Helen is explicitly stated as being blonde or ginger, among other characters in the story.
>>220365859these are egyptians
>>220366010Why do they look identical to modern day Greeks?
>>220366010>egyptians>facial hair
>>220365965>Homer isn't canon to Homeric myth! Hesiod is woke!!Really?
>>220363940Looks like one of the tribal enemies from RE5 lol
>>220365994Lol, even if we go off the limited fragments we have, him being Aethopian in Homer's time does not mean he was black. For the 15th time, another famous greek figure was also described as Aethopian and all the visual depictions of her were definitely not black, unless of course you want to postulate that Herakles, the most renowned hero in all of greek mythology was partially black, although I guess you might be stupid enough to think that
>>220360947>yuropoors>paying for anything
>>220366154>even if we go off the limited fragments we haveAll of whom state clearly that he was blackWhy shouldn't we go off them? Why do you pretend that they are a less secure source of what ancient Greeks thought than your butthurt incel rants? The ancient Greek stated over and over again that Ethiopians were black and that Memnon, their king, was black. You are not ancient Greek. Have sex.
Reminder this is what ethiopians think when it comes to race
>>220366398Taking your cope to a whole new level, chuddie.
>>220366207You're retarded if you think I'm referring to the later authors describing geography rather than the fragments we have of the epic cycle (none of which describe his ethnic features)You know it's really funny since alot of the trojans were vividly described in more detail than the greeks were. You would think there would be some surviving fragment or description illustrating that Memnon was black since "wooly hair" would have been a remarkable feature to the greeks.It's also really funny at how hard you're avoiding addressing the Andromeda thing since it blows such as massive whole in your argument, as if the multiple depictions of Memnon didn't already do it hard enough
>>220363260>w-we're only half sandniggerGood for you, Mahmoud.
>>220365965>>220366398>Sure, the ancient Greek sources they that Ethiopians are black, but there could have been versions of the Iliad that were never written down which say that Ethiopians are WHITE!!>Sure, the ancient Greek sources they that Ethiopians are black, but there are Ethiopians who identify as NOT BLACK!!I cannot wait to see what cope this incel is going to come up with next.
>>220366567>retard does not get stylized drawingsDumb Amerishart. Nobody wants your token movie blacks. Keep them in movies about Ameristan.
>>220366567>the later authors describing geographyNo, chud. They describe Ethiopians as black skinned, I have given you many many examples of that.
>>220366639Retard. There is a difference between ''black skin'' and being sub saharan African from ''Wakanda''.
>>220360947>oh no they're le disrespecting muh ancient capeshitgrow up and read a real book some time.
>>220366694Shut up nigerrfaggot. We don't want your Americanized faggotry attatched to our myths.
>>220362553>>220362593>>220363149It's called adaptation and anachronism, chuddies, Shakespeare was a big fan of it, maybe look him up some time.
>>220360947Sorry, but you arab rapebabies won't stop this flick from being a global and domestic box office success. Cry more.
>>220366567>"wooly hair" would have been a remarkable feature to the greeksReally? Why is Odysseus described as wooly haired at Odyssey 6.230–231?That shouldn't be happening according to your incel worldview, should it?
>>220366784Nah, that's called WHITe GUILT
>>220362512Rare /tv/ scholar post
>>220366797>muh rapebabies! muh rapebabies!!!>>220363260
>>220366812Odysseus was black? Was every single historical and mythological figure black? It seems that way.
>>220362512>women pale from being indoors rather than laboring outside in the sunBut niggers don’t get pale from being indoors so how is this supposed to apply?
>>220366895She's pale in the same way as Severus Snape.
>>220366841>replying to yourself
>>220362512>you have to be a 21st-century ethnonationalist to describe a person with white skin as being whitethis whole post, nay this whole thread is just LLM gobbledygook
>nigs trying to claim ancient greece as their ownWogs really will try to steal anything and everything.
>>220362512She was racially European and you need to kill yourself for trying to claim otherwise.
>>220366895Mediterranean people can get a nice tan If they avoid sunlight their skin will look more paleBlacks are already dark so they cant get a tan
>>220362512Ok but why split hairs over this and then cast a vanta black negress
>>220366867Yes, Odysseus is described by Homer as μελαγχροιής, "black-skinned".Let me guess, chud - that part is a metaphor or at the very least not related to race, whereas the bit of Helen being described as white corresponds tos modern racial categories?
>>220366964Exactly my point. That post is trying to rationalize casting a coal black nigger as a Greek because “white” supposedly doesn’t really mean “white”, it means “pale”. But that still doesn’t make sense because niggers can’t be pale.
>everyone and everything wuz african
>>220366956Ancient greeks had no concept of an "European race". >>220366953So if "white" always means "racially white" or else you're AI, then I guess that means that Odysseus was black, right? >>220366985
>>220366985imagine spending your entire day doing this. you should unironically rope
>>220360947of course, the entertainment industry cannot rid itself of their obsession with negros. Of course any remake has to replace white with black people. Not with a latino, or polynesian, or scandinavian, or russian, or indian, or asian, or middle eastern, or european. Nope. Black. Always black.WOKEDEIESGBULLSHIT
>>220361338The whole world is so absolutely sick and tired of seeing music, movies, and tv shows forcing the act of raising blacks to a more important stature than they are in real life. No one, not even black men, consider black women to be beautiful. No one, not even black women, consider black men to be good and purposeful men. No one, most especially blacks, consider black people to be intelligent. And yet the entertainment industries would have us believe that blacks and anything blacks do or have ever done is the alltime greatest of everything that ever existed in the history of forever. They aren't fooling anyone, and people are beyond tired of it to the point that they have lost interest in the entertainment industries. Why does no one go to the cinema anymore? We all know the answer but Hollywood refuses to acknowledge this truth.
>>220367036>chuddie flies into a murderous rage because he has no argumentvery typical.
>>220366985He also described the normal color of the sky and the sea as red.
>>220367035That has nothing to do with what a said though
>>220367094Why would I ever need to murder you when I know you’re going to kill yourself eventually?
>>220360947it's insane how shit the casting is compared to Troy. Even the white actors suck, anne hathaway's botox face is distracting and cmon Tom Holland doesn't fit in the Odyssey.
>this fag is still going 5 hours lateryou’re only trolling yourself at this point my guy
>>220366639All the sources you posted in that image were way after Homer would have composed the illiad, nevermind the existence of the oral myths in first place.Let's look at the first image you posted (the one where you initially postulated your retarded claim)All the quotes directly lifted from the Odyssey and Illiad give no physical description to the appearances of Aethopians,>Dictys Cretensis, Trojan War ChronicleMakes no mention of his physical appearance>Isthmian OdesNo physical description except "bronze-armed Memnon" but wait a minute, didn't you make a long winded post saying that Helen being "white-armed" is not at all an indicator of ethnic/racial background? But Memnon being bronze-armed is? LOL>AenidWow, using a roman source huh? I guess you really are too retarded to distinguish between Greece and Rome.>POSTHOMERICA II.133Once again, centuries way after Homer. It's also really funny that it describes the Aethiopians as Swarthy, that's a really interesting word to use since it's not really used for sub-sarahan blacks. That's something you would use more for north africans or middle eastern people.
>>220363277>Greece was always multicultural
>>220367203and Greeks were always black
>>220360947Isn't it interesting that none of the Jewish scientists were played by black actors in Oppenheimer?
>>220360947>>220360947Why? the lady on the right looks like modern day greeks and eyetalinans
>>220367200Watch out dude he’s going to have a meltdown because you said “sub-Saharan”
>>220360947I know I’m just one guy but I’m also not seeing it solely because of the sheboon Helen. I am sure there are other reasons not to bother, but I’m simply finished supporting anything that disenfranchises my race at all.
>>220366985It's called he was out all day in the sun and got extra crispy. He obviously wasn't African, faggot.
>>220366985μελαγχροιής means tanned, ruddy-skinned or swarthy, not charcoal negro black.
>>220367203He said "Mediterranean", which is objectively true. Though arguably "Greece" was indeed multicultural, given that it was at that time a collection of culturally continous, yet distinct city states.
>>220367200See: >>220365595
>>220363762the more a board is moderated the more you have an accretion of various bioleninist/coprodermic fauna, they get ravaged in any board that has low moderation thus they concentrate in places like /tv/ since the janny started being more of a pain in the ass banning left and right
>>220367290μελαγχροιής1) μελαν- (melan-). from μέλας (mélas) = “black". You are probably aware with words derived from that root like "melanin", aren't you, incel?2) -χροιής (-khroiḗs) from χροιά / χροός / χρώς = “skin, complexion"BLACK-SKINNED
>>220367290Who cares mutt, you have no identity other than serving Israel in some made up war of identity politics.
>>220367370Lol you have nothing, makes sense since you genuinely thought it was ok to use Roman sources to try to make a point about Homer. I'm still waiting for a rebuttal on Andromeda.
>>220367437bodied that freak
>>220362935Or if you experienced reality after 2024 lol
>>220360947Globalism means turning the whole world racist.
>>220367449>you have nothingExcept all of the ancient Greece sources I listed, all of which unambiguously describe Ethiopians as BLACK You know how many sources you have cited so far that attest to Ethiopians being white? That's right, chud, zero.
WEWUZ
>>220367523Yes, its pathetic how chuds are wewuzzing as Ethiopians lmao
>>220367535Thankfully the smart posters know that ancient Greece was a multicultural nation and every single important person and mythological figure was African.
>>220363714Saaar I am hating you white benchods saaaar!!!!
>>220367564Ancient Greece was not a nation, but a loose cultural and linguistic world made up of hundreds of independent poleis. You Americans truly know nothing.
>>220367490Except all the ones I already debunked (all of them). Lol, you're basically asking me to prove they weren't black but you can't prove a negative retard. It's also really funny how you even used a wiki article listing sub-saharan countries and put special emphasis on Ethiopia in your initial retarded image, you genuinely thought that modern day Ethiopia was what ancient greeks back then were referring to when they used the term "Aethiopia" LOL as if it wasn't just a vague and all encompassing term for areas they weren't that familiar with
>>220363037Amerimutt with his mutt law BBC rape fantasies vs reality https://www.science.org/content/article/greeks-really-do-have-near-mythical-origins-ancient-dna-reveals
>>220367652>Except all the ones I already debunked (all of them)You have not debunked even a single one, freak.>as if it wasn't just a vague and all encompassing term for areas they weren't that familiar withIt wasn't. It was a term for all the areas where black people come from.
>>220367490Now show which ancient Greek sources unambiguously describe Helen as black.
>>220363037>Ancient Greeks went extinct by 250 BC.There were no real Greeks already in 249 BC? Aechean League was a sham? And all that because of the Turks who arrived to Anatolia in 1072 AD? Zamn
>>220367437When you hear someone is melanated do you think they must be sub-Saharan African????
>Ancient greeks make sculptures out of marble (a white material)>They paint them>Paint washes off over the centuries>Angloids and other nordic barbarians find them centuries later>"WE WUZ GREEKS!!!!"
Reminder that Zeus was black too.
>>220367437why don't you go back a little, few books earlier, where he's called xanthos? the adjective μελαγχροιής is used after Athena makes him younger again, making his skin darker compared to an old man's
>>220367718Right looks Indian.
>>220367639except you know, seeing themselves as Hellenes in opposition to barbaroi, speaking closely related dialects and participating exclusively to olympic gamesyou deformed bioleninist kids sure are hilarious
>>220367718What's funny is that Angloids/Germoids are so far genetically and phenotipically from the ancient Greeks even Levantine Arabs are closer to the Myceneans than them (closest populations are all Greeks and Southern Italians btw)
>>220367777Yeah, and different European peoples called themselves ‘Christians’ against infidels, spoke related languages, and joined the same religious festivals too, that still didn’t make France, England, and the HRE one nation. The Greeks spent centuries proving this by killing each other in the Peloponnesian War, the Corinthian War, and basically every other Tuesday between Athens, Sparta, Thebes, Corinth, and Macedon. You don't even know what "nation" means, American.
>>220367704It’s just a brown that is saying stupid shit, he is saying it to brownwash like all their ilk do
>>220367680Aww yes, because roman sources, quotes using descriptive words like "swarthy" and even "bronze-armed" clearly proved he's black much like how the description "white-armed" clearly indicates that helen was white.Are you even going to try to debunk my sources? I'm still waiting on that thorough debunking as to why Andromeda doesn't count as an Aethopian or for you to prove that she was actually black despite all physical depictions demonstrating otherwise.
>>220367834here comes the cope after being completely humiliated, artificially conflating a religious identity with a "genetic" identity in the original sense of the word i.e κατὰ γένοςwhat to do you think an Ἕλλην was to them, a religious identity? they considered themselves a "nation" in the ancient sense of the term, i.e, having a common origin
>>220367834>AmericanRent free lol
So, every single Greek mythological figure was black?
>>220367781>Levantine Arabs are closer to the Myceneans than themyeah actually your own chart shows clearly that southern germans are the closest ethnic group after Sardinians and Lebanese>closest populations are all Greeks and Southern Italians btwyou can't even read the chart you posted you utter moron
>>220367877>because roman sourcesCope. I gave you plenty of Greek sources. Meanwhile your only source are your hurt incel feelings.
>>220367904Afraid so
>>220367881You’re moving the goalposts from ‘nation’ to ‘ethnos/common descent’: yes, Greeks often saw themselves as a broader Hellenic people (Herodotus literally defines it by shared blood, language, cult, and customs), but that still did not make ‘Greece’ a unified nation-state any more than shared Germanic ancestry made medieval Germans one state while Saxons, Bavarians, Austrians, Prussians, etc. constantly fought each other.
>>220367718Didn't know Ancient Greeks were actually Latinx. Thank you for teaching me the truth with your AI-generated image.
Can we get a definitive list of every historical and mythological figure from across the globe who turned out to be either black or indian after people did some research? It's a strangely common thing.
>>220362512he wasn't nordic that's for sure but Mediterraneans are white, sorry jeet
>>220367934the level of cope is getting insane, what a brutal humiliation, now not only you agree that it was about shared blood, language, cult and customs but in a desperate last attempt you are now conflating the "nation-state" as if anyone mentioned itno, nation != nation-state, that's your desperate strawmanpeople constantly fight each other, duh, they do it on every possible scale, from continents to family members, try to get those extra chromosomes out of the way before licking Post
>>220367904Black people are a myth. Anything that is human-shaped but black-skinned is some permutation of Homo Erectus or Homo Habilis. Ancient Greeks were human.
>>220367973pushkin
Nobody cares about Greeks or Italians, the best of whom all died thousands of years ago.
>>220362512Poltards absolutely crashing out when confronted with the truth
>>220363295>Greeks today are largely the same as the Greeks of the medieval eraeveryone normal knows this, it's unironically a jewish psyop against greeks and italians.All people from italy including the southernest sicilian have the same dna going as far back as rome.
>>220368039>bioleninist kid so obliterated he has to constantly quote his own postactually embarrassing
I am going to Toronto in the summer, any advice on how to have sex with native babes??
>>220368039They just can't handle that ancient Greece was black. They had a similar meltdown when they found out the vikings were all devout muslims a few years ago.
>>220360947>Trap music soundtrack>The ass that sailed a thousand ships>modernized dialogueWas Nolan inspired by black knight for this adaptation? Or Uwe Boll? Will he finally make something truly original and unprecedented for once?
>>220368063Try Brampton instead.
>>220362512Truthbomb. Dark niggers can be called pale if they just sit indoors. Greeks confirmed BLACK since forever.
>>220368063Sorry wrong thread
>>220368039you are still moving the goal post, why put an african as helen even if helen was at worst a turkish bitch?
>>220367973Einstein was black. Oppenheimer was black. Anne Frank was black. Etc.
>>220361338fpbp. the whole "go woke, go broke shit" is so played out and outright wrong like Barbie wasn't one of the most successful films ever
>>220367921LOL, he still can't reconcile that all his sources that specifically reference anything that could be vaguely construed as black were way after Homer's time and he thinks he can make Memnon retroactively black if he just throws a bunch of quotes on an image.If you have no problem using roman sources in the first place, than you obviously have no problem using post homeric sources in a dishonest and misleading manner. You have no problem using a vase where Memnon looks negroid but you have nothing to say about all the ones where he doesn't? LOL And he doesn't even dare to touch the other famous Aethiopian that's depicted as caucasion in every single greek pottery LOL
>>220368077>originalThat just sounds like Baz Luhrmann except with much duller lighting, editing and cinematography.
>>220368077>>Trap music soundtrackThe outrage over trap in the film is especially funny because chuds genuinely think James Horner-style orchestral scoring is somehow “authentic” to Bronze Age Greece. It will come as a profound shock to chuds to learn that the ancient Greeks used none of the instruments James Horner does.In fact, trap is much closer to actual Homeric performance culture than James Horner-style music. Homeric epic was oral, rhythmic, repetitive, boastful, improvisatory, and performed competitively for live audiences. It was designed to hit hard in the moment: formulaic phrases, recurring epithets, aggressive flexing, taunting enemies, celebrating violence, wealth, lineage, revenge, and divine favor. That is structurally and socially much closer to rap and trap than to the swelling emotional scores of orchestral film scores. Chuds cannot even conceive of the fact that the use of orchestral music in films is a modern convention rather than orchestral music literally playing during the Trojan War. Meanwhile, trap actually preserves several features that would make immediate sense in an oral heroic culture
>>220368120stop talking like you're not an extremely unwelcome element here.
>>220368131kill yourself LLMjeet
>>220360947i thought it hasent even been confirmed if shes actually helen? isnt it still just speculation at this point? itd be funny if nolan was teasing this to get you all riled up just to reveal she plays some random side character
>>220368120>way after Homer's timeNo, chud, they weren't.See: >>220365595You know what is way after Homer's time? Your coping.
>>220368131Homer was from da block in souf Birmingham anyway. He was da trap god
>>220368172“Homer was da trap god” is closer to reality than “Achilles had a James Horner score swelling behind him while he fought Hector.”
Homer didn't consider any of his characters "black" or "white", morons.He was blind.
>>220368124I never saw his great gatsby so fair point.>>220368131Based
>>220368280is that why he thought the sea was red?
never watch a movie with black people in it. let them fade out of public consciousness.
>>220368208Way closer because he literally was da trap god. He even linked up with SpottemGottem
Imagine whites were in charge instead of meds back then. Homer's uneventful 3 day voyage
>>220368138>Uses sources that were 800 years laterLol, even your earliest source is still a century after Homer, Give me a quote specifically from around the time of when Homer would have lived that describe them as black. And in addition to this, a proper rebuttal to my Andromeda argument while you're at it
>>220368077Was Inception not original enough?
>>220363802>>220364093Cool, Helen of Troy was still a blond white European Greek. Cope and seethe tranny.
>>220368304Probably, he obviously had no clue what color terms meant and just used them based on their prosodic properties.
>>220368397>was shitty paprika not original enough
>>220368402Ethiopians are black. Cope and seethe, incel.
>>220362512Helen was Greek you stupid fucking retard nigger.
>>220368424Was Odysseus Ethiopian or was he descended from another part of Africa?
>>220368424Cool, Helen wasn't Ethiopian.
>>220368039>still replying to yourself
>>220367911That's a chart that shows populations that are far from the Myceneans (see how they are orange/red, closeness is shown as yellow/green color), and even Levantine Arabs are still closer to them than Germoids. The closest populations are Greek islanders and Southern Italians
>>220368420I don't get it. I'm not butt-hurt about Nolan's Odyssey, it actually seems interesting, I just want to know what makes Inception unoriginal.
>>220368348true, north sea niggas would clear that babby tier journey ez and probably even ahead of schedule
You can tell it's a jeet because he's using "oids" to refer to Europeans.
>>220363950little slut
>>220368131>@grok write me a troll post rationalizing why trap music would make sense in the odyssey
>>220368420Paprika will always have a special place in my heart because of an absolute incredible girl showed it to me.One of the first nights I stayed at her apartment, she put it on for us to watch in bed. I barely remember a single thing about the movie itself now. I remember her scent, the feel of her bed, the lights outside her apartment window. At one point she was kissing me and asked, “Are you here with me, right now?”, and I said yes, but I wasn't, I was distracted worrying about some completely petty nonsense I can’t even remember anymore instead of enjoying what was probably one of the best moments of my life. 20 years later, that part kills me more than anything.I WANT TO GO BACK.
>>220360947Please tell me Tom Holland plays Paris.
>>220368500It’s a near scene for scene ripoff of Paprika
>>220363526>Anglos and kikes are the strongest alliance the worldI guess more reason I should have stayed with me half-jewish ex gf.
>>220367911Even Lebanese and Palestinians are closer to the ancient Greeks than Germoids/Angloids
>>220368475It has been decisively proven - whitecels will NEVER be descendants of the ancient Greeks. They appropriate Greek myth because they have none of their own.
>>220368475You clearly can't read the charts you post. Now you post a map which also doesn't prove your point (you claimed Levantine Arabs are the closest). Why would anyone treat your opinions seriously?Oh, and you can't even download files so you make garbage screencaps instead. Xitter screencaps. Confirmed brainlet.
>>220368574saar
>>220368545How? Paprika is imaginative and surreal, Inception is just men who Nolan wants to fuck standing around in grey sterile environments.
A brown subhuman literally spent his entire day writing LLM prompts so he could spam the board with multiple Odyssey threads because he’s butthurt about palestinians getting gaped on the dailyLet that sink in
>>220365467>enjoyed Oppenheimer
>>220368584No, Indians have their own Mythology. They don't need to pretend to be Greek. You do.
>>220368593Correct, let me fix my overly generalized statementIt’s an uncreative tryhard hack trying his best to make a scene for scene ripoff of Paprika
>>220368582I never said that Levantine Arabs are the closest, I said that they are closer to the Myceneans than Germoids/Angloids are, they are still relatively far but still closer than Angloids/Germoids like Matt Daaamon and Brad Pitt. They are both heavily miscast, not just the black dudes
>>220368574>whitecels will never be greekGreeks are white...What is this bizarre brown-nigger cope?
70s Tatiana Papamoschou could've played Helen
>>220368670kebabseller pheno, so provably accurate for an ancient greek.
>>220368654they obviously weren't black or anything like that but they were also not fucking blonde and pale scandinavians, anon. you dont have to roll this cope out in order to like ancient greece.
>>220368708These images drive chudfreaks INSANE
>>220368574Yeah it's pathetic how they keep casting those Germoids to play ancient Greeks but they only cry about Blacks
>>220368708>obviously not blonde and pale>describes Achilles in the Iliad as ‘fair-haired’ or ‘golden-haired,’ using the term xanthos (ξανθός)Cool, none of those pictures are of Achilles.
>>220368749You are not allowed to use Roman sources, that means you are wrong, see: >>220368120 >>220367877
>>220368774Achilles was black
>>220368774Those color terms used by Homer are obviously a metaphor that are meant to signify the opposite, otherwise we would have to admit that Odysseus was black skinned: >>220366985
>>220368802Achilles was Greek, thus not black.
>>220368812That's an obvious lie from an obvious nigger-tard. Next.
>>220368708Here's a pic of a colorized ancient Roman statue of Augustus by the way.
>>220368835>words words words words>10 panelsChuds can't meme
>>220368853Here's a pic of a colorized Greek statue btw: >>220367718
>>220367718>>220368869>retard goes on nigger-afrocentrist website where he uses photoshop to recolor the statue>the actual color of the statueO IM LAFFINLOLOLOLOLOLHere it is in high res by the way.
>>220368891nice AI, chud.
>>220368906kill yourself Shitpinder
>>220368853cool so when was rome = greece, anon? i never said that there cant be lighter skinned greeks either you tosser. i simply stated that pretending that they were blonde and pale northern europeans like old hollywood films were, is also completely inaccurate. as >>220368670 posted, this is more accurate. its from an actual greek film after all.
>>220368968>cool so when was rome = greece, anonChuds are American, they genuinely have no idea that they're not the same.
>>220368968Here's an ancient greek statue of Athena, I believe.
>>220368968>>220369003
>>220368574What's funny is that since they have no ancient history they go around looking for physical traits in isolation like blonde hair and blue eyes and that somehow means that a Greek with blonde hair must have been related to them, as if just the hair color links them in a hive-like fashion above ethnicity and culture lol. This is like a bald guy going around in a museum and upon seeing bald historical figures he's like ''my ancestors'' just because they are both bald. Or like a chinese wewuzzing Julius Caesar because he was described as having very dark eyes and hair just like Chinese have! It's so fucking laughable, and they do this pathetic shit because they have no ancient history to be proud of
>>220369121yeah its just americans, anon. they are the retards who think "european" is a monolithic ethnicity as if there is any fucking relation between a norwegian and a greek, for instance. its just pure idiocy.
>>220369166To an American, history started 250 years ago and there are exactly two cultures in the world: white and black. It is impossible to explain to them anything about European history and culture.
>>220367781>>220368571The problem with genetic markers and haplotype maps is that they're made with modern dna. What we're looking at with these are modern snapshots of the populations- not a snapshot of what any of these populations were 3000 years ago. At most you can infer how people from 3000 years ago drifted into what we have today, but you can't state that these are accurate to historical populations.I hate when non-biologists pretend to 'heckin science'. All those people who do DNA ethnicity tests are equally stupid. If your test says you are 60% philippino, 20% korean, 15% chinese, 5% japanese and other east asian, you are NOT 'all those things' unless you had a literal ancestor from Nihongo or Gookland that mutted your family. What those percentages actually mean is that 20% of your DNA is congruent in korean populations, 15% is also found among the chinese, etc. That dna is almost entirely a remnant from before "ancient asians" branched off to become korean/chinese etc. It's an indicator of how far off they've diverged since splitting up- so you ONLY have 20% in common with modern chinks, for instance.
>>220368500It was actually a rip off of an old Scrooge McDuck comic where the bad guys enter his dream to find the combination to his safe.
>>220369591What the hell are you talking about, those are bronze age Mycenean genetic samples compared with modern populations, so it measures the distance of those ancient mycenean samples to modern populations
>>220360947>>220361338make white panthers great again
>>220369704hes just american and retarded. you can see that with his /pol/ack lingo such as complaining about "heckin science" as if he has any idea how scientists actually work.
>>220362779>>220362752i love IDF more now. i will watch the next israeli film fest. am israel chai!
>>220362552And black women are not mediterranean?you realize the mediterranean is a region of africa?
