>YOU ARE WRONG, MISTER ROGAN, YOU ARE WRONG!
DIBBLE SHOULA BEEN A DRIBBLE DOWN HIS MAMA'S ASS CRACK
>>220361350Perhaps, Mister... *snickers* Dibble. Perhaps. But answer me this... the Sahara Desert. Have you looked underneath every individual grain of sand resting there? No? Why not? Perhaps you already know what you'll find, and you're... afraid.
>>220361350>rogaine and the boomer junky grifter got BTFO by a literal fedora twatembarrassing
>>220361350Do people really listen to this or is it just background noise when you’re doing something else ?
>you're insane Graham! there's no such thing as aliens you fucking chudc->wait.... what's that sound??>OH N-
>lies on the biggest podcast in the worldi hear they named him dibble because he was born to quibble
>>220361350the hat just tops off how ridiculous he is. he saw indiana jones and thought that's me.
>>220361350Dibble embarassed himself on that podcast. They should have sent a man.
>>220361530>Perhaps, Mister... *snickers* Dibble. Perhaps. But answer me this... the Sahara Desert. Have you looked underneath every individual grain of sand resting there? No? Why not? Perhaps you already know what you'll find, and you're... afraid.
>>220361731Nice try Graham. Everyone who saw it knows Dibble won the Dibbate
>>220361350what the fuck are you all talking about?
>>220361802he aint wrong
>>220361827I suspected but had no actual framework for my belief that Big Academia is wrong and that blond haired supermen had an advanced globe-spanning civilization on Earth in the distant past. They also, very clearly, mastered ESP and telekinesis and probably had video games and entertainment featuring futanari elves with balls. There are no male elves, they are all futanari and they are ashamed of their sex drives and procreation habits and they blush a lot and try to conceal their large penises with foreskin and balls as well. This was all kept from us but the collective genetic memory of humans can't keep it repressed forever and I'm glad it's all coming out now and that someone understands.
>>220361350Dibble won. Bigly.
>>220361827JRE #2136 has become essential /tv/ lore at this point. Basically it's 4 hours of archeology kino with an actual archeologist debating a schizo fiction writer about the existence of a supposed ancient civilization
>Yes, I watch Dibble everytime he has a new video out. How did you get my number?
>>220361802Yep. You know graham lost when he immediately made a solo cope video and then ran back to Rogaine's podcast alone without Dibble there to question him to save face.
>>220361350The Hancock and Dibble "debate" was a mess. On the surface, it looks like Dibble won because Hancock did nothing but discuss semantics, but you can't even say the matter is closed because we never got to hear a proper conversation about it. Gobekli Tepe being considered as built by a roaming civilization (which doesn't make sense) and the mystery of the Great Pyramid are two of the obvious ones. I think Dibble has said that we know the Great Pyramid is a tomb, which is simply untrue when you just look at the details and layout of it.I think, though, what really swayed me in not trusting Dibble is when Rogan had Zahi Hawass on, and then Dibble made a commentary video a couple of days later analyzing their discussion and praised Hawass while saying he absolutely nailed the interview and said all the right things.
Graham got taken apart casually but some archeologist's apprentice. They didn't even send a proper hatchet man but a boy to make his bones taking down a Danikensian in the wild.He probably got a tattoo of a raptor talon after that kill.
>>220361350get Dibble'd chuds
>>220361894It's clear that ended his career.If some shlub can murder him on a podcast like that then his theories ain't shit.
>>220362014The great pyramid of Giza? It isn’t a tomb?
>>220362014>I think Dibble has said that we know the Great Pyramid is a tomb, which is simply untrue when you just look at the details and layout of it.You mean if you look at the fact it's in the middle of a necropolis? Fucking moron.
>>220361350He looks English.
>>220362014>which is simply untrue when you just look at the details and layout of itOh, it's simply untrue? Then it should be easy to prove and publish your findings, right?
You guys are pretending to like Dibble, right?
>>220362218What?
>>220362243You know that all around the 3 Giza pyramids there's like a shitload of cemeteries and tombs discovered with dead bodies and mummies, right? Right?
>>220361350>focuses on calling Graham a white supremacist instead of scientific debunking of his batshit insane theoriesTworetardsfighting.png
>>220361350Is that yahtzee croshaw? I love his reviews where he talks fast.
Am I really supposed to side against him because he's ugly and small?
>>220362204There's a lot of weird things that do not line up with the smaller pyramids around it, where some of those were confirmed to be tombs. No mummies or artifacts were ever found confirming it was a burial place. The supposed sarcophagus was far too big to be built and placed after the structure was built, suggesting it was built during the time of its construction instead. The layout doesn't match what was known for their burial practices, including weird chambers and shafts. Lots of weird chemical reaction residues found on the inner walls. Some of the water erosion suggests that it may predate Khufu, who is accredited to commissioning the pyramid. The masonry work also looks more advanced than some of the other pyramids and burial sites surrounding it, suggesting two different time periods.>>220362285 Popular theory that it's a much older structure and they built tombs around it, possibly thinking it was a holy site because why else would a giant unnatural structure be there?
>>220362285the pyramids existed long before egyptians put the cemeteries in
>>220362343How long?
>>220362331Yes. Any other questions?
>>220362342>>220362343The pyramids have been carbon dated, mongs. The organic material used as part of the mortar inside the rubble fill was carbon dated. There's a discrepancy of a couple of hundreds of years with the mainstream timeline but it's not "much older" than its surrounding archaeological context.
>>220362236Sorry, Zahi says I can't, but some institutes like Archaeological Prospection and HIP Institute have been trying to with the limited access they're being given to the pyramids (By Zahi and his crew).
>>220362342>The supposed sarcophagus was far too big to be built and placed after the structure was built, suggesting it was built during the time of its construction instead.what the fuck is this zoomer brainrot sentence
CAN'T FIBBLE THE DIBBLE
>>220362359if we could date the stone we might know, but no one can say they know for a fact how old they are
>>220362240I find it bizarre how these threads have multiple insufferable faggots instantly coming out of the woodwork tripping over each other to Correct the Record.
lives in his fathers shadow and has not made any major contribution to archeologyno one cares about seed archeologyHancock is still getting millions from investors to discover Atlantis. dibble and his fans are more ancient in their beliefs than the aliens that built the pyramids.
>>220362382There is a stone box inside. It is very large. The passages in the pyramid are very small and narrow. It would be way too inconvenient and in some cases impossible to carve the box, and then try to have people carry it inside the chamber. Therefore, box must have been carved before the walls went up. This is not how people made coffins.
>>220362396I heard that some stones in the Pyramids are older than time itself, perhaps brought over from the universe before this one.
>>220362442>WHOOOAAA THEY PLANNED TO MAKE A TOMB WITH A STONE BOX TO HOLD A BODY....AND THEY DID IT BEFORE THE WALLS WENT UP???? HOW DID THEY FIGURE THIS SHIT OUT BEFORE CHATGPT BRUH
>>220362442>making this coffin, which was made by humans, is not how humans make coffins (like this one, which was made by humans)
>>220362442Genuine question - are you medically retarded?
>>220362440I dont think dibble has any fans, just people who perceive this to be a left/right issue and instinctively get butthurt that somebody goes against the system and thus side with the other guy. Plus obvious trolls here.
>>220362468>>220362471>>220362477Tell me another instance in which a civilization carved out the entire tomb, roughly the size of maybe ten football fields, around an immovable coffin.
>WHY WONT ANYONE FUND MY STUDIES IN SEED ARCHEOLOGYlol get rekt nerd. money for new discoveries in Egypt or Atlantis go brrrrrrrrr.
>>220362477Only clinically.
>>220361802Never watched the video but he talks like a fag so I'm on the other guys side.
>>220362396So in other words, you made it up
>>220362534The irresistable edifice vs the unmovable coffin.Could Jesus microwave a burrito so hot that He Himself could not eat it?
>>220362534>tell me another instance of WTC being built! You can't!>tell me another instance of the Eiffel Tower being built!You're legit retarded, bro. Take some anti-tardation pills stat, please I beg you. Lord help this moron develop his brain further for his benefit amen
>>220361802He lied about the shipwrecksHe lied about the seedsHe probably lied about more things but I don't remember
>>220361350How is it that his suit, his hat and his beard are all too big for his body?
>>220362534>around an immovable coffin.Shit I didn't know the coffin that was previously a sarcophagus is now Thor's hammer
>>220362371those samples were only taken from the outside, there is no mortar inside
>>220362573I'm asking for another instance of a similar burial practice. You're asking for the exact same structure.
>>220362402Rogan really buckbroke so many midwits by just not buying into The Narrative™
>>220362601There is no way to get that coffin out of the pyramid without knocking walls down, so yes, it is pretty much immovable.
>>220362628They were taken from behind the outer limestone casing stones, and so could only come from the original building.This is another thing retards like to spout about the pyramids and how accurately cut the stones are - most of the structure is roughly cut and split rubble fill cemented with a very rudimentary mortar, it's only the spaces accessible and viewable to people (like the outer limestone casing stones and the interior corridors) that are finely finished. Even the King's Chamber's "relieving chambers" after they had been dynamited were found to be roughly shaped because no one would see those chambers.
>>220362707It's not a coffin moron. It's a stone sarcophagus. Sarcophagi are meant to be immovable. Genuine retard moment right here.You think King Tut's sarcophagus is weird too because they can't remove it from the tomb? Was King Tut a battery?
alright which one of you faggots wrote this?
>>220361609Pretty much. That and old scfi shows like trek&stargate, or podcasts like fall of civilizations.
>>220362574his smearing of Hancock as being a fake archeologist at its core is a complaint about money. he thinks Hancock as a fraudster wasting financers funds on "fake" archeological studies that will never happen because he feels like they wont find anything. but in reality archeology is literally digging in the ground looking for shit. yeah you can make some inferences on where its likely to find dinosaurs or other things using carbon dating to help measure where the sediment is. but what Hancock is doing is he wants to study the Amazon and the coasts. during the ice age the oceans were back around 200 miles from the coast we see today. so yeah its a big area of search. but dibble and reddit thinks is the biggest waste of time and many people should see it as the new horizon for discoveries. end of the day in dibbles mind he has the archeology degree and the "wisdom" to make new discoveries and he feels like he deserves the funding. but the problem is that he is a seed archeologist. and lets be honest who the fuck cares about seeds? its like you have 1 million dollars right now that you can either give to dibble and his research, or give to Hancock and his research. even if dibble comes back with a new discovery, did you even really win in the end blowing your money on this retard? its that black and white. and dibble might be more of a shyster himself spreading misinfo like this anyways.
>>220362331No, your supposed to be against him because he was trying to pull the racist card on graham. The fedora could have had the moral highground with facts vs spec alone, but he instead pushed to far and claimed graham was trying to push a narative that white ancients civilized the world.
>>220362750No actual coffin or body was ever found within Giza. It's also significantly less decorated than the other pyramids nearly. Why?
>Archaeologist>Named FlintAll I needed to see. This man is trustworthy, correct, and righteous.
>>220362879>No actual coffin or body was ever found within Giza.Menkaure's tomb contained a wooden coffin with his name but the body was of a later burial.The satellite pyramids around the 3 main pyramids have had skulls and bones and other human remains found in them. There are also shaft tombs in the surrounding Giza necropolis found with many bodies.Why do you lie? Why?
>>220362972>had skulls and bones and other human remains found in themThose were recent drugs deal gone bad.
the truth is Hancuck has to spend hours building an explanation why he he thinks he might be right whereas Dibble drops a fact to make that explanation crumble. every time.
>>220361350Why does having a single centrist podcast threaten leftists so much?
do you want to fund finding shipwrecks of gold or do you want to fund plant boy?
>>220362879>gigantic ass structures just lying there for thousands of years next to heavily populated areas>wtf where did all the shit goDon't look up all the ruined pyramids
>Hancock presents theories about alternate takes on history>collects money from book deals, interviews, appearances, netflix specials>sorry can't use that money for research because one time I wanted to walk into a protected area with no clearance and the guard told me I can't>I guess that's that, make sure to buy my next book
>>220363140research what?he already believes it. he convinced himself he doesnt need to go further
>>220363140>the establishment and TPTB are trying to silence me!!!!>btw make sure to catch the next season of my Netflix show, produced by my son the Netflix employee
>>220363025the truth is you're a vaccinated gay boy. tell me about your various faggy tattoos lmao
>>220361350kikes always lie (thats their modus operandi)
>>220363214lmao another seething hancuck
oh no flint. i just got money to start randomly digging in the ground looking for answersare you going to cancel me too on joe rogans podcast because I'm uneducated and don't have a degree or the rights to do this? what gives me the rights to make discoveries. a board of directors or just a shovel and some elbow grease. this is the difference between a bureaucracy of sensitive commie fags. and just a entrepreneur looking to get something done.
>>220363239We both claim to be laughing our asses off. We appear to be at an impasse.
>>220363282When is Graham gonna get a dig going? Two more Netflix shows, right?
>>220363310tell me what discoveries dibble has made.
>>220363175>wow, I must research if sun rises every morning, I am not convinced, I need to go further
>>220363318discovered Hancock's a fraud very quickly
>>220363344bodied that freak
>>220361350>Jamie, pull up Flint Dibble's sleeves
>>220361350Dibbloids are getting bodied in here. Maybe next time send someone who doesn't look like South Park character.
>>220363344>>220363356hancock still has investors lining up. i mean what does hancock realistically have to worry about? he is close to the end of his journey anyways. just making sure before he checks out that were pushed in the right direction to undermine a society of sensitive timmies that think they will find something greater?
>>220363197Are you going to claim that Flint was there too lying about Graham just to boost Graham's show?
>>220363365>Noooooo waaaaah I want my historical fairy tale to be trueJust let it go man. There was nothing going on before, uhh *checks current timeline* (which keeps getting pushed back further and further) Oh about 18,000 years ago. People didn't have advanced tech or anything like that, they were all living in caves and shit. Stop going against and questioning the current mainstream academic narrative. You aren't crazy are you? You believe the science right? Stop questioning the experts and move on with your life already!
>>220363360
>>220363433>Noooooo waaaaah I want my historical fairy tale to be trueWhat a perfect summary of modern day academics.
>>220363469>No u
even though Graham isnt even educated in archeology, taking his side is actually punching down on the dibbletards even though they think they are the ones punching down on people that believe in hancock.hancock has the publicity and the financing to do something great. and dibble has a podcast that gets a couple thousand views.
>>220361530lets start with looking underneath any individual grain of sand whatsoever, thanks
>bullying a man with cancerumm 4sisters... what is this???
>>220363360Underrated.
the only way Hancock can win the argument is by beating Dibble up, which I think he could do. So why hasnt he?
>>220362708lol no reply to this one
>>220361530>t.
>>220362755go ask /r/atheism
>>220362708
>shout NIGGER down the microphone everytime Flint Dibble tries to add facts>Jamie has to edit the podcast so only you talkdecisive HANCOCK victory
>>220364593Where did they get the magic white concrete powder and the giant lens?
>>220362708that image isn’t even from the pyramid itself, just the area around it. cope harder dibbleshill
>>220364661Ancient, advanced civilizations.
>>220361350the fact that he wore the headphones incorrectly for hours so he could wear that stupid hate to cover up his bald spot is enough reason to hate him. He's so full of shit and when he was made fun of he made a video of him in a hospital crying about "muh cancer" and how somehow having cancer makes him right and Graham wrong.He was so full of shit. Granted I don't think Graham is necessarily correct on everything but his criticisms of the archaeological and scientific communities is spot on.
>>220364882Graham is just a kid asking questions. Why is everyone so mean to him?
so wait... you're telling me THIS is what all the fuss is about? It's a pile of old rocks lmfao
>>220361770evil demon cat
>>220366108Not only that but the entire region has a number of similar sites like this onehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karahan_TepeGraham, like Daniken, tends to single out stuff from a range of findings/sites then spin tales about it, romanticizing and mythologizing stuff that is well researched and catalogued.
>>220366197>that is well researched and catalogued.
>>220361350This debate made me realize that to the general masses presentation and superficial tactics > facts .Dibble is right and he dismantles every fanfic made by the graham guy, but because he is just an academic nerd who dresses up like a rugrat wearing his dad's oversized suit without any media or public speaking training he got dismissed by the average watcher.It's really eye opening since I first noticed it when I got close to rich people circles.They are the biggest bullshit spewing empty brained snake oil salesmen.Insane social intelligence and skills, zero non social skills.If you're good socially and not visually repulsive you can make the masses eat shit voluntarily and believe it's the best type of chocolate.
>>220361350>YOUVE BEEN DIBBLED BY THE DIBBLER
>>220366448you're only realizing that now?
Joe sides with any low iq who says the pyramids were built by aliens
>>220362846I'd rather the money go to anything else than archaeology but if the choice is between Hancock's incompetent scams and some actual research...not a hard choice.
I'm more of a Randall Carlson enjoyer myself
>>220366599>Younger Dryas
>>220366448>presentation and superficial tactics > factsThat's why you got vaxxed after all.
>>220366448you should have realized this in junior high, anon
>>220366448>This debate made me realize that to the general masses presentation and superficial tactics > facts That applies far more to 4chan than the 'general masses'.It isn't just that, though. It's the fact that Hancock, like all of these people, spins a narrative that is built on 'here's what the establishment and the lamstream media don't want you to know!'. That is obviously appealing to a lot of his audience. Rogan's audience is made up of a lot of people who are 'free thinkers who don't trust the experts' but regurgitate every word of some random person talking into a webcam on youtube.There is a lot of dislike of experts these days and it is because every idiot thinks their own uninformed opinion on a subject is as valid as someone who has spent 50 years studying it.
>>220366599brothers of the serpent are kino. timothy hogan for templar stuff
>>220366448people are typically too busy or lazy or just disinclined to actually investigate any claims or listen to both sides of any argument. they rely on heuristics and accessibility. they decide who to follow based on who they'd like to have a beer with, or if they're wearing a white coat etc.>>220366696>That applies far more to 4chanthen why are you bothering posting your argument here, retard? you're thinking of twitter or reddit or any of the other 'democratic' platforms. retard.
>>220362285Surprised the A-rabs haven't bulldozed the entire plateau for being "against Allah."
>>220366448its more that people have access to more information and explore it since they are too poor to do anything else. once you interrogate one topic and find out the official narrative is bullshit, you easily apply it to everything and now the "im right because its in a text book" appeal to authority no longer works
>>220366750>'democratic' platforms
>>220361827Who the FUCK are you?
>>220361770why isnt this a jre toonswhy arent there any jre toons for this episodewhat are they doing over there
>>220366839retard. every post on those platforms has a number next to it, showing how many people 'voted' for it; likes and retweets. did you really not understand that, retard, or are you just obfuscating?
>>220361641top kek
>>220366819most people are morons and prefer a tall tale to facts
>>220366890You sound like you're quite wound up there anon.I'll give a (You) maybe that will calm you down
>>220361802>Im a real archeologist and Graham isn't! So there!keep telling yourself that chuddie
Imagine how much money they'd make if they scheduled a Hancock vs Dibble round 2
>>220366921exactly, the school system is designed to do this, people go along with what ever they are told to believe instead of investigating and finding out what the facts are. anyone that questions the tale is ridicules and ostracized, and people who go with the tale are told they are intellectually and morally superior.
>>220362862Pretty sure that Graham at least does imply it in his books. But it is still cringey to bring it up as a gotcha, especially since Graham has definitely grown out of it.
>>220366995you're still not getting it. most people are morons and don't have the mental capacity to parse facts. it's not what they're told or not told or whether they have access. they're just that stupid. you're probably too sheltered to realize this. you're operating under the assumption that an average person is a rational being that has the capability to parse information. this is not true.
>>220362285remember last year they discovered massive structures underneath the pyramid? uhh any update on that?
>>220361350>shirt way too big>ill fitting suit>has to have the headphones barely hanging off his head so he can keep his fedora onk-k-kino....
>I don't know if those ancient statues look like Africans I don't look at race like that anyway Jamie pull up a video of some ethnic lady saying she spoke to aztec priests and they told her Quetzalcoatl wasn't white, sit down and listen a brown woman is about to speak
>>220367082its not about being able to parse information, most people just dont care what you think is a fact or not. if you are sperging out citing information you memorized about some obscure topic, they'll just nod and smile. people parse information just when if its something they actually care about
>>220362972>there are shafts surrounding and beneath it that are full of human remains therefore the louvre is a tombYes we know about the mastabas. The fact that humans were buried in proximity to the great pyramid still doesn't indicate that the pyramid itself was a tomb no matter how much you lot cry about it. No bodies were found within it and it was built with portcullises designed in such a way to be both opened and closed repeatedly. If it were designed as a sealed tomb there is no reason to have movable portcullises. Why would they go through all that trouble to make it accessible and then not inter a body in there? The truth is it was used in its time what we use it for today. Religious pilgrimage and tourism. It's far closer to Notre Dame than it is a tomb. It was to its culture in its time what cathedrals are in the west.
>get BTFO by Dibbs for 4 hours on JRE >make a 40 minute cope video calling him a liarhave we ever seen a bigger KWABing in recent memory?
>Flint Dibble is married to a certified baddieWtf????
>>220367604Just entering the thread, but I’ve watched enough cuckold porn to know how this marriage works, whoever they are.
>>220367684I don't think anyone was asking for your expertise
Dibble is kind of a doofus, but nobody actually believes Garaham's slop anymore, right?
>>220367699Too bad, you got it
>>220367728>we made the world a little less magical and mysteriousgee thanks, just what I wanted
Those rocks did look like a building. The fact that it doesn't fit in redditman's worldview is precisely the point.
>Keanu Reeves got grifted by hancuckGrim
>>220368275Please send spiritual energy (and small donations) to Graham, who is as we speak under relentless attack by Big Archeo. I heard he's actually hospitalized, but sources tell me he's stable.
>>220368275how can one man be attacked so much? sometimes I think about it... and it's just too much... at least he has his netflix show, jre appearances and AAA list celebrities at his side
>goybekli tippy
>>220367782If you can't find magic and mystery in scientific truth so have to make up bullshit, that's your own problem
>>220368598What a profoundly stupid contradictory statement
>>220368658you're a dimwit, that's all there is to it
>what the fuck did you just fucking say about Gobekli Tepe you little bitch?
graham and joe are retarded for being defensive about super defensive about baseless theories and people like Dibble are retarded for calling Graham a white supremacist
>>220366599he ruined his rep by admitting to being a Freemason
>>220366599>MELTWATER PULSE 1B
>>220368673Scientific truth and mystery, think about the two concepts for a second. I accept your concession
>gunung padang
YOU ARE WRONG LEONIDAS
>>220366599whatever happened to that mazda lightsaber tech or whatever?
>>220368772It is a paradox. I hate guys like Randall Carlson, but I love Randall Carlson.
>>220366550hey flint you cuck. since you are so smart at archeology, and so quick to disprove that there was no other ancient group of people in the America's long before we previously knew. can you please explain to me the nature and the origins like a site such as Michigan Stonehenge? I mean the waters of lake Michigan were probably way back further than they are today since the ice age, which could mean that this archeological site could have existed as far back as the ice age.you know. one of those places underwater where it might give hints or clues to a past civilizationor do you just wanna pussy out like the neckbeard redditor you really are?
>>220366697Serpent bros are based I loved their Saqsaywaman and Peru vids
>>220368959>Michigan Stonehenge>At this point in time we are not disclosing the location of the site due to security concerns.lmao
>>220369090yeah because people that want to cover up history might destroy it.WOW thanks for proving my point that people try and destroy history to preserve their own fart sniffing possibly straight up false perception of what the story of our origins may really be.
Haplogroup autists who closely follow the work of geneticist David Reich and his lab know that ancient human gene flows are all accounted for, there's no introgressions that suggest anomalous travel or worldwide contact (sorry Graham), and archeologists are basically a joke (sorry Flint).
>>220369235thats nonsense
>Gobekli Tepe>Gunung Padang>Bimini Road>Olmec Heads>Younger Dry Ass>Spring Equinox>True North>Ayahuasca>Big Archeology>Flint DibbleWow. Thank you Graham Hancock for your incredible """"""insights""""""
>>220361530on the spot fallacy
>>220361350Is the Dibbmeister a Threat to Democracy?
>>220369235Genetics are racist.
>I HAVE CANCER YOU CAN'T CALL ME A WEAK ONIONS FAGGOT BETA KEK
>>220361870>with an actual archeologistYNBAAAD
>>220362157Dibble samefagging this hard
>>220361350Hancock is harmless and even if he's wrong, the fact that Dibble is a reddit brofag who clearly seethes over his nonsense means GH automatically wins, forever. End of.
>>220368959Wiki tells me they dated this stuff at 9k years ago, that's not pre-clovis.
>FUCK YOU HANCOCK
>>220369490I dated my fist unto your nuts to yesterday
>>220369490ah see well that's actually the interesting thing, because since it was discovered about 10 years ago, they are not really sure how to date it and its believed to be 9 thousand years old. but its also up for debate on who made it. because native Americans really were not erecting large stone pillars in America. which could give credence to the idea that another group of people could have done it that lived here long ago as well.
>>220369529average hancuck fan
>>220361350> diddle> younger dry ass> grandma grand cockWho writes this shit?
>>220362331Now you’re thinking with portals…
>>220361350>Hancock: How much of the Sahara do you think has been excavated?>Dibble: Well uh, much of it has been surveyed, including by my dad...Why is archeology and paleontology so full of biographical, hagiographical nonsense? You try to read a popular work and its more of a history of archeology or the "Bone Wars", the life story of some fucking relic/fossil hunter; everyone is an Indiana Jones style maverick trying to build a legacy. Its boring and its not science.
Archaeologists then: I will embark on an adventure and learn the ways of the primitives in order to decode the map and discover the treasure! Archaeologists now: This prehistoric burial with a sword and runes is obviously a non-binary black woman sorceress which proves racism. Decolonize archaeology!
>>220369737
>>220368488>>220368850Graham has scrubbed most of his controversial "documentaries" from Youtube. He's convinced that ancient egyptians were black and the pyramids were built by volunteers.
>>220369802what did he say in those controversial documentaries that he didn't want people to find out?
Main stream Archaeologists still havent been able to explain how they quarried/moved 1,000 ton blocks. Nor how they build the structures.
>>220370038They worked real hard
>>220361350Why did Dibble call Hancock a neo nazi once he said that I could not take him seriously. He came in with an ideological bent from the get go trying to get liberals to like him. I watched the show an Hancock said the oldest lost city was in Indonesia for fuck sake.Like if Hancock was a nazi wouldn't be claim it was in Sweden or Germany ?
>>220370078Guilt by degrees of separation. Some Neo nazi groups use similar speculative archaeological arguments so therefore Graham is uh doing an uncomfy
>>220370067>They worked real hardHahha they could have had 50,000 slaves pulling and trying to lift and still wouldnt be able to do that shit. I dont know why people are so hurt about it.
>>220370106But thats like saying cause some right winger thinks ufos are real a liberal can't. Something just really rubs me the wrong way about this guy.
>>220367604I'm sure he inherited a lot of daddy's money and she'll leave the second his bank account dries up
>>220370078well lets be honest. most people only really care about their own racial history, so there may be a inherit bias when people are trying to figure out things that happened long ago.like a black man that believe were all just descendants from africa. or kikes thinking they are gods chosen people or something.to which flint, a white man wants to virtue signal how that's wrong that graham is white and takes pride in his own people's history, meanwhile flints main belief is leaving his own name in the history books.begs to question why flint thinks of others as a supremacist. but ironically is in the pursuit of glory himself.
>>220370165>some right winger thinks ufos are real a liberal can'tI've been following UFO stuff for many many years and this is actually happening right now
>>220370078it was a different timehancock was going to countries and claiming their ancient artifacts/civilizations were from magic white people no one knew about yeah it's wrong that dibble did that, but also hancock was wronganyways dibble apologized for it so let it go
I never watched this podcast but I've read the comments on it on reddit and youtube to form an opinion. Dibble is a fag and doesnt know what he's talking about. Graham is correct.
>>220370313let me sum it up for you>That man lies. me tell truth. give me money so i can buy nicer tailored suit.
>>220367086People saw a blurry image of the earth beneath the pyramids and then drew whatever insane stuff they wanted in its place.
>>220361870>4 hoursToo long. Is there a playlist i can watch this through 2 minute youtube shorts?
>>220370078Dibble didn't want to debate so he tried to character assassinate Graham instead, and then when that didn't work he agreed to a debate and won , well he did until people eventually realized Dibble just made up most of his facts lol
>>220361350>YOU ARE WONG, MISTER ROGAN, YOU ARE WONG!
>>220370635Dibble didn't make up anything. From what I remember the only thing he got wrong was saying 3 million ship wrecks instead of 300k. He probably just wrote an extra digit in his notes.
>>220370945>Dibble didn't make up anything. From what I remember the only thing he got wrong was saying 3 million ship wrecks instead of 300k. He probably just wrote an extra digit in his notes.Oh shit we got a psychic here!
>>220371001What's psychic about what I said? If he only got a digit wrong then clearly it wasn't just a completely made-up stat and also it makes no difference to the actual argument whether it was 300k or 3mil.
says a lot about archeology as an academic discipline when their chosen spokesman is off by 2.7 million shipwrecks
>>220370945>plants can’t go feral after domestication>things don’t decay underwaterjust off the top of my headtheres videos that debunk dibbles fibbles, go watch one if you want more
>>220371099>plants can’t go feral after domesticationI honestly don't remember that.>things don’t decay underwaterIn the right conditions they don't. This is why you have perfectly preserved Greek ships from over 2000 years ago in the black sea. Deepwater anoxic environments preserves a lot of materials, wood included.
DIBBLED
>>220370078>Why did Dibble call Hancock a neo naziIirc Dibble is a part of the tribe they tried to exterminate.
>>220361530The people living there already looked and the low lying plains are covered in weights for fishing nets suggesting the largest stone age civilization in the world. Everyone ignores this civilization and yaps about muh aliens because the whole alien thing and its controlled opposition is a psyop to obscure the real history because it's inconvenient for the modern Jewish narratives.
>>220371183>the tribe they tried to exterminateah yes, the mentally retarded
>>220371099There's also the one about the lack of atmospheric lead levels in ice cores as a proxy for historical metalworking indicating there was none before the modern industrial era. The only problem is the assays used to get historical co2 trends (the data being held up as evidence supporting Flint's position) do not test for lead levels at all which raises significant questions as to why he made the claim with that evidence in the first place. Especially considering how willing the very researchers who generated much of that data were to talk about the subject and how baffled they were that he tried drawing that conclusion without reaching out to them first.
>>220366108That's the thing anon, rock piling technology wasn't invented until 2000 years later
>>220371231A lot of them certainly fall into that category.
>>220371246He was also on Twitter telling ice core researchers not to talk to the people who were trying to debunk him lol
>>220371183lol. joe rogan has>supported zion don >defended israel 10 million times >sucks peter thiel and palantir off all day>brings on palantir shill duncan trussell >has a long line of jeet billionaires as guests >let’s kash say whatever he wants but dibble is the jew supporting the machine! some guy who looks like he’s made $100K in his whole life.
>>220364351
>>220371529Yes the guy calling everyone a nazi for daring to think is part of the machine shutting down thought by calling everyone nazis.
>>220371536anon delivered the joke better
>>220370765We dan wan no trable!
>>220361609>>220361609t's been unwatchable since Rogan moved to Texas and sold his soul Peter Thiel.
>>220361843*Cumming out
>>220371536I still don't get it. He's got small arms or something? Embarassing tattoo?
>>220371702He's got oversized clothes, look at the OP
>>220371791I feel stupid now. Thanks for the spoonfeed.
>>220366197>Globeki Tepe>Karahan TepeBut what were the chances of multiple ancient sites sharing similar names all in the same general area? Coincidence? I think not.
>>220371220The problem is it's a region that has always been rife with thieves and looters. If there were a lost city somewhere around there it would have been picked clean within a century, then add >10k years of weathering, erosion, and sand blowing in. Also the geography potentially could have transformed a lot in that time, especially if there were some immense cataclysm.
>>220370078Dibble asked Hancock to kiss the ring and he did. Both disgraced themselves and joined hands to shit and piss on the people's they study and 90% of their profession's history to please a bunch of cum muchers.
>>220362846>>220364925Keep in mind is that a lot of the stuff Hancock says these days is actually tame and is sanitized compared to the sort of stuff he used to publish, he used to say shit like the Pyramids having magic powers and similarly crazy stuff, or in relation to what >>220362295 >>220370078 >>220362862 >>220368723 say, what he says in pic related,I don't like to assume people are dumb or acting in bad faith, but Hancock really is just a quack at best, or somebody who is dishonestly pushing stuff he knows is nonsense at worst.I keep up with the scholarly research on Mesoamerican (Aztec, Maya etc) history and archeology, and some of the stuff he says in Ancient Apocalypse is just impossible to interpret as anything but him being very ignorant or dishonest. Happy to clarify on this>his criticisms of the archaeological and scientific communities is spot onNo, they aren't. There's legit issues with academic archeology, museums etc that "gatekeeps" out the public, like how research is put behind paywalls, how often not all the maps, datasets, and photos are published alongside the papers, or how museums + nstitutions will copyright photos they make of ancient artifacts even though the pieces themselves are obviously Public Domain, etcNone of that is stuff Hancock talks about, instead he alleges a grand conspiracy to hide the truth and insists that researchers won't engage with non professionals. in reality tons of researchers and academics will happily speak to you if you email them as a random nobody provided you're not acting like a conceited jackass and show you have interest in the topic and are coming from a place of good faith.I can say that from experience, I speak with academic archeologists all the time, and out of hundreds of interactions I've only had like, 2 ever where I got blown off or insulted for not being a academic myself>>220369835See above
>>220371246 >making any judgements based on fucking ice coreshow do you know there weren't years where decades worth of ice melted? or how that one ice core is representative of the whole fucking planet?Its fucking bullshit, like if global warming sissies were trying to make predictions of global temperatures using literally 1 weather station.
>Flint Dibble wiki>... is an American archaeologist and "science communicator"
>>220372016>like if global warming sissies were trying to make predictions of global temperatures using literally 1 weather stationYou mean they haven't been all this time?
>>220366979> grandma hand cock proceeds to rape dibble in front of Rogan
>>220371986Cont:>>220370945>>220371001>>220371099>>220371144>>220371246As I said last post, I think Hancock's stuff is nonsense, but something Dibble got wrong is that when Hancock started to talk about Quetzalcoatl being white and bearded and blond, Dibble pulled up a depiction of Quetzalcoatl in the Codex Borgia (pic) to prove Hancock wrong, and (at least from the clip I've seen), Dibble thought this disproved Hancock and even Hancock looked dissapointed as if he had been proven wrongWhen in reality (and I guess they all missed this because admittedly the artwork is kind of visually busy and hard to intuitively interpret at a glance), that depiction of Quetzalcoatl IS bearded and does have blond hair: You can see his blond/yellow beard if you look closelyThe thing is, it's not a particularly meaningful observation: The Mesoamericans could and did just have facial hair: Moctezuma II is described as having a beard and a light mustache in many Spanish accounts (and these same accounts also say he had dark skin "typical of an indian", so don't think that must mean Moctezuma was white), we have ethnographic accounts which describe how they plucked their facial hair out, or did heat treatments to ward off it's growth, and how there were social expectations around men not having facial hair unless they were royalty or elderly: A lot of wise, eldrly gods are depicted in Mesoamerican art with beards.The yellow color is a bit more puzzling, but golden colors were associated with divinity and the sun (gold was likened to the sun's feces, actually), and the color is probably symbolic, alternatively we do have some sources which describe golden hair dyes made from the same plant the Aztec also used to produce soaps, which might have been used. For comparison, some Aztec gods are shown with brillant red, blue, white-and-red striped skin etc, so it's probably best to just not take the colors literally all the time.ran out of space again, 2/3
>>220371183famous jewish surname, Dibble
>dude wearing a hat indoors>he's baldIt's one of those conspiracies that gets confirmed every single time.
>>220371918This has nothing to do with the already unearthed evidence of a huge relatively advanced civilization with a fishing industry. You're doing the exact thing my post was talking about, diverting the discussion about the verified civilization to retarded alien shit.
>>220372043>You mean they haven't been all this time?well, yes and no. they were limited in where they were measuring, and were awful with many areas, but this did have some good coverage in Developed nations. but, there were larger problems with the whole endeavor, which is why we use 'climate change' now in its place, despite it being a meaningless truismreally environmental/ecological science is very important, but seemingly those in charge of guiding it are actually fucking retardedt. analytical chemist
>>220366792You know they damn near tried. As soon as western civilization gave them dynamite you know what they did? combed the dessert for heretical imagery to bomb.
>>220371986Graham was right about the specific archaelogists pricks he called out, Dibble and this guy were both lying pieces of shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9AjYr628r0
>>220361350>mr. Ragu, with all due respect, you are such a monumental dunderhead
>>220371986>proceeds to post a wall of anecdotes as a rebuttal and hope you didn't notice
>>220372095>>220370945>>220371001>>220371099>>220371144>>220371246Cont:Also, there are no reputable accounts or depictions that give Quetzalcoatl white skin (Some sources call him the "White Tezcatlipoca", but this is a symbolic connection, not commentary on his apperance, and even that is actually just a misreading of the Coded Ramirez) In fact, as seen in the Codex Borgia art I posted, he's often depicted with BLACK body paint, like priestsAs far as I can tell, all the accounts which claim he had white skin (and which tend to emphasize his blond hair, which as I said is depicted sometimes in legit Mesoamerican art, but isn't usually emphasized in their myths), and arrived from the east/the sea (there are legit narratives which talk about him LEAVING to go across the sea to the east, but no early ones which describe him arriving from there that I know of, though there are some which could be construed that he/the Aztec were foreigners in a more general sense rather then specifically from across the ocean) are written centuries after the fact and twist and invent details to push their narrative of him being white/EuropeanEven the "original" 16th century sources those later accounts draw on and twist/change the details of, are already themselves distorted and revisionist: Most of these earlier 16thC sources about Quetzalcoatl were already first being recorded decades after Spanish contact and already show signs of being changed from that Spanish oversight, such as in pic related where there's obvious influences from Eden, the original sin, etc>>220372339Regarding what, how willing academics are to engage with outsiders? What can I (or anybody else) possibly comment on with that other then our personal or anecdotal experiences? And as opposed to Hancock claiming there's a conspiracy with no evidence?>>220372265Graham doesn't just call out those 2, tho, he alleges a grander systemic attempt to shut down and gatekeep outsiders/the truth3/3 for now
>>220362846>but in reality archeology is literally digging in the ground looking for shitNo archaeological excavation has taken place in the last 60 years that didn't first use a combination of non-invasive methods like fieldwalking, remote sensing, aerial photography, phosphate maps, etc. to establish the presence of ancient features before laying down test squares or trenches. At least read a wikipedia article before you start running your mouth, yapboy. Do you think people like wasting their precious time, permits, and funding on digging random holes that turn up nothing?>yeah you can make some inferences on where its likely to find dinosaurs or other things using carbon dating to help measure where the sediment is. but what Are you a simpleton? Everything you said is either abject fucking nonsense or relates to a completely different field of study.
>>220372433>>220372095>>220371986Brevity is the soul of the wit
>>220372433>What can I (or anybody else) possibly comment on with that other then our personal or anecdotal experiences?The problem I have with using anecdotes to refute someone is I don't know you at all. You could be a bot for all I know. There is absolutely no way for me to verify your claim. The fact that you defend the use of anecdotes proves to me you are not smart and have no actual authority to be involved in these conversations. You may think highly of yourself because you are willing to read history books for fun, but people see right through you. Your just another 90 IQ doofus that just has to give his opinion because you literally can't and don't realize you are not that smart.
>>220362365Tell me about flint, why does he wear the hat?
>>220372549I post a more concise version of a lot of the info I go over in >>220372095 and >>220372433, here: https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/17404007/#17407659 , but this version ends up being just as long as what I posted in this thread, since even though I am more concise in that thread, I also cover extra points I didn't in this oneMeanwhile what I posted in >>220371986 isn't even long, it's about 3 lines of info about two topics each.>>220372627I didn't say that using anecdotes is defensible or is valid (they aren't valid), I said that there's not much anybody can really say about the allegation other then use anecdotes. Graham's claims of there being a conspiracy to shut out outsiders and hide the truth isn't falsifiable. How do you expect people to engage with and talk about it, if not with anecdotes?You're right that you have no real way to prove the accuracy of what I said with my experiences speaking to academics (I mean, I guess I could post screencaps of my emails with them, but I'm not doing that), so I'm not blaming you for not believing me, what I take issue with is the implication that there's anything else I or anybody else can do or say counter Hancock's accusation.Like, I guess you could run a study where you randomly email a few hundred archeologists, pretending to be an interested hobbyist, and see how many of them reply or not, but there's no research like that.
>>220372433IOTBW It's ok to have a white god, askhistorians. Cope and re-center whiteness.
>>220361641Kek, he would flail abouts like that
>>220361350Why would rogan invite a reddit mod?
>>220372736>Like, I guess you could run a study where you randomly email a few hundred archeologists, pretending to be an interested hobbyistBut I did do that. Not one reply. Now what?
>>220372095>QuetzalcoatlWoke revisionism has completely hand waived away his "whiteness" as a eurocentric, colonizer fabrication.
>>220361350Rogan is right and that loser flint dibble radiates cuck energy. lol
>>220366614>biggest flood in history>DryasBravo, hackson!
>>220370283>hancock was going to countries and claiming their ancient artifacts/civilizations were from magic white people no one knew aboutno
>>220371099>dibbles fibblesThat's pretty good.
>longposter blows chuds the fuck out >so they ignore himseen it before. sort of like the JRE debate itself.
>>220370945Well, there was the bit about Hancock being the Jan6 mastermind, but that's not archaeology related.
>>220372748Of course it's okay, but that doesn't mean the Aztec had white gods. They didn't. I mean, there's Mixcoatl, but pic related probably isn't what you mean by "white". Last time I checked we didn't have candy-cane skin. >>220372803No, as I said, the idea that he's white is itself revisionism that only comes up in accounts written many, many decades or even centuries after the fact. There's no visual depictions or accounts from before Spanish contact, or even before the the 17th century, which show or describe him as white. If you think otherwise, find and post one. >>220373076He did do this though. That's pretty much what he implies in the Mesoamerica episode of Ancient Apocalypse, when he claims that Quetzalcoatl had European features and arrived from across the ocean to give the Mesoamericans advanced technology and that that was (at least) a mythologized version of his Ice Age global civilization coming over
If you watched the full 4 hour debate and still think Hancock has any credibility whatsoever, you are a complete moron.
>>220372433>Even the "original" 16th century sources those later accounts draw on and twist/change the details of, are already themselves distorted and revisionist: Most of these earlier 16thC sources about Quetzalcoatl were already first being recorded decades after Spanish contact and already show signs of being changed from that Spanish oversight, such as in pic related where there's obvious influences from Eden, the original sin, etcYeah, there was an incentive for the natives to suck up to the Spaniards by claiming their ancestors ACKSHUALLY thought sacrificing humans was barbaric and they only worshiped one god and hey he kinda sounds like this Jesus fellow you boys are into. At the same time, European priests would make their own edits to historical accounts to prove that the natives could be converted to Christianity given enough time and resources.
Dibble won the Dibbate and it wasn't close
I just watched the 4h "debate", Graham basically spends 2h just to say>but doesn't this look human>have you excavated every grain of sand Mr. Flintonelly?>it's a crusade against me! a crucifixion!fucking waste of time
>>220373458Correct, though I would say> At the same time, European priests would make their own edits to historical accounts to prove that the natives could be converted to Christianity given enough time and resources.This was less as you describe here, and more that by revising and twisting Prehispanic myths to have more similarities with Catholicism or by making it seem like Spanish rule was preordained and anticipated by omens, it made it easier to convert people, rather then it being an issue of those changes making it easier to argue that they could be converted, as you describe
>>220372866both are wrong. the earth is flat and all of history since the French Revolution is gay and fake
>>220373606do you have a single fact to back that up?
>>220367699He is right thought, using scientific method.
>>220368598>scientific truthHow many boosters did you take, just out of curiosity?
>>220373596>you're a mormon, next to you we all have a drinking problem>CRUCI >FICTIONgod I love burn after reading
>>220373644Sure, I can list some sourcesPic related from "The Allure of Nezahualcoyotl" by Lee touches on what I said there a bit. "7 Myths of the Spanish Conquest" by Restall also touches on it a lot."Burying the White Gods" by Townsend (http://web.archive.org/web/20240619194021/https://www.hallofmaat.com/americas/burying-the-white-gods-new-perspectives-on-the-conquest-of-mexico/) also probably does, but it's outdated in other ways, with it's praise of Gun, Germs, and Steel and by extension it overemphasizes the technology gap as a factor in why the Spanish beat the Aztec (and to be clear, the tech gap WAS an important factor, but GG&S overstates it compared to diseases and the way mesoamerican politics worked contributing to states allying with the Spanish, which were even bigger factors, plus GG&S has a ton of other errors), and I also wouldn't be as skeptical as Townsend is in arguing that ALL the details in the Spanish accounts about Quetzalcoatl leaving to the east are Spanish inventions/distortions, so much as some of them are
>>220374000self hating whites, next
>>220374020>those sources don't count because I said soProvide some actual counterpoints, please.Also, even just reading the account in >>220372433 should make this obvious. You really think Prehispanic myths and narratives talk about a specific deity being "the devil" who invented all sacrifices and tempted people into them?Even though we know from other accounts and excavations that other gods, including Quetzalcoatl, had sacrifices done to them (EX: sacrificial victims have been excavated from Quetzalcoatl's temple at Tlatelolco)? Quetzalcoatl rejecting sacrifices there in that account is just an example of the equation between Quetzalcoatl and Jesus/Saint Thomas noted in the pic in >>220374000
>>220361350Flint Dibble absolutely destroyed Rogan here, but because he looks like a King of the Hill character that Hank would have hated, Rogan's audience believes that he lost.
>>220374173Well physiognomy is real.
>>220374173Flint DIBBLED on Rogan's massive Hancock, and reddit is seething about it to this day, FACT!!!
>>220374193What do you mean? This guy's a straight chad.
>>220361679Rogan's audience is so dumb that they think that a guys outfit determines the results of a debate.
>>220361731So when someone demolishes Joe Rogan, it just didn't happen in your world because he was wearing a hat?
>>220374226It not unimportant. It is fundamentally telling about a person’s character, what they choose to present themselves as.
>>220374243If a man dressed in a chicken outfit tells you that the the sky is blue, what color is the sky?
>>220374350Egg yolk yellow.
>>220374350That’s already information I have. If I was a blind person were to be told that by a man in a chicken costume he wouldn’t be wrong to be skeptical
>>220374374In other words, you're unable to follow a debate because of what the participants are wearing.
>>220361770I miss watching Ghost Stories with the oldfags on /a/ - fuckers had so many con stories.
>>220374350If a man wearing headphones over his hat indoor tells me sky is blue, I will go check.
>>220374102no
>>220374400How far would you take it? >sooo in other words you’re unable to follow a debate because one of the participants is naked getting peanut butter eaten out their asshole by a bunch of dogs
>>220374443Well, then don't bitch about it if you're not going to engageAnyways I am going to bed but if anybody wants me to answer more shit about Mesoamerican history and archeology on top of what I said in >>220371986 / >>220372095 / >>220372433 etc, and/or wants my perspective as a non-academic who still regularly interacts with academic archeologists and therefore has the insight and perspectives from both ends of the spectrum, let me know in a reply, and I'll answer tomorrow
>>220374450The fact is you just want to move the focus away from the debate to the hat because he won but you don't like him. One doesn't have to be a genius to know that.
>>220374552I don’t even know who these people are >>220374243 was my first post itt.
Hancock defenders cling to that hat for dear life.
>>220374552If a man dressed like a crackhead approaches you and starts raving about archeology, will you listen to him?Wat if that man is dressed like a dibble?
>>220372030>facts instead of retard conspiracy theories -.-
>>220372030Ministry of truth feel
>>220374580>cling to that hat for dear life.Just like cum dribble.
>>220374243>guy smears himself in peanut butter explaining how 2+2=4>well obviously this guys wrong, look at what he's wearing
>>220372030>science communicatorBig Science has really ruined their brand with this branding. The idea that you need some oracle blessed by the priestly class to hand down knowledge and wisdom while at the same time insisting that, because you are science, your message should be unquestioningly believed.
>>220374752>guy smears himself in peanut butter explaining how 2+2=4My first thought would be "What is this pervert's end game here? How am I being scammed?"
>>220374752That’s not a debate howstever
A worthy thread, lads. I can't say we ever conclusively got to the bottom of this, nor quite tell who won these crucial arguments, so I guess we'll have to make another one and start over afresh with the debates.
>>220374781I don't think there's any implication that you need to, it's just that most people don't keep up with research and don't go out of their way to read the most recent papers on any topic. So some people take it upon themselves to relay information to the public, either out of passion for their own field or just because they found a niche to make money in.
>>220374842>nor quite tell who won these crucial argumentsIndependent observer here - dibbloids were massacred, hopefully future archeologists will find their remains.
>>220374842What are you wearing?
>>220374842
>>220374883>dibbloids were massacred>t. independent observer
>>220361350just wait until his dad finds out about this.
>>220374789>What is this pervert's end game here? How am I being scammed?he made you watch
Dibble won and it wasn't close.
>>220361350i have "free thinking sceptic who does his own research" fatigue
>>220375028That was the real agenda, you've been successfully psyopped.
>>220375028That fatigue comes from all the boosters you took to Flatten the Curve.
>>220367314> built with portcullises designed in such a way to be both opened and closed repeatedly.so the priests can come and remove the jewels they were buried with so the next guy could be buried with them.
>>220367334but its literaly what happened. Dibble lied over and over because he knew no one would fact check. 200 IQ play imo, even now 5 or so years later people STILL think gram lost
>>220361802Fucking based.
>>220362240I don’t have to like him to hate conmen hawking pseudo-scientific snake oil.
>>220363344KEK
>>220361802>t. Dint Flibbleberg
>>220374243>the words coming out of a persons mouth don't really matter only his appearance matters
