Movies used to be good
yea but now they are great
>>220361980troy was never good
Troy was a mediocre movie but Nolan is such a hack he makes it look like a masterpiece ofc.
>>220361980This cannot be real
>>220361980>We have Troy at home
>>220361980is like if new directors want to make a campaing for people to revalue movies that are starting to get old,like gladiator.a lot of zoomers wouldnt know that gladiator exists if the nigger director didnt try to make a sequel.Same shit with Troy.
>>220361980the movies have.... le fallen...
>>220361980Nolan is a boring director, only he could take a Greek epic and try to make it as bland as possible. He lacks visual flare and imagination
>new bad but old? Now that's good
>>220361980It's funny that Troy is being looked at more favorable these days because when it came out everyone shat on it. Just goes to show a steamer from a few decades ago is now considered good compared to what's coming out.
>>220361980>masterpiece sculpture, wooden horse, view from below, angled view, cinematic, expert composition, oscar winner, widescreen aspect ratio, square columns in background, greek temple in background, blue sky in background, realistic surface texture, realistic, amazing quality, hollywood quality
>>220361980
>>220361980It will look good In™ IMAX™ or For™ IMAX™ (digitally retrofitted to accommodate non-IMAX™ screens, most people viewing it will be watching a 2K version which is like looking at mud, but they still paid the IMAX premium). As it was intended!
>>220362051They are not THAT old... are they?
>>220362213sorry to tell you,but the year 2000 was 40 years ago
>>220362095you forgot to put "masterpiece" twice in there
>>220362051Troy is a visual feast with clunky dialogue
>>220361980Being straight up honest, here, I wouldn't bring either of these into my walled city, no matter how sure I was that the invaders had left. They'd look just as nice 20 miles away from my gate as they would near my palace, thanks.
>>220362507>you forgot to put "masterpiece" twice in thereThat's why it looks like shit
>>220361980I think the scale in the Odyssey is really bad. Some how the cyclops looks human sized even though he is holding a human. Nolan is truly slipping
>/tv/ has troy threads for years and years>nolan makes a movie with scenes that can be compared>suddenly troy "was hated when it came out" and "was always mediocre"hmmmmmmmmmmm
>>220362234I get it. Be careful 99.
>>220362876probably imax cameras have some dumb restriction that makes them bad at whatever you call that thing where the focal adjustments make things look bigger or smaller. whoever at imax managed to oneshot nolan so hard thoroughly ruined his cinematography
>>220361980Oppenheimer not showing Hiroshima should have been your first red flag. I guess Warner Bros and Zimmer did a lot of heavy lifting for Nolan
>>220362877Contrarianism for the sake of it isn't much of a personality anon.
>>220362973neither is being an indian nolanfag
>>220362876I feel like it's possibly intentional, assuming that the entire cyclops encounter is being framed as a story being told (like how it is in the actual odyssey) and so they'll try to present visual clues that what we're seeing is just an exaggerated tale. Still retarded for him to do that though
>>220362997This is what I thought too until I saw he was holding a soldier in his hand so idk. The horse shot in OP looks similarly strange, like the scale of the building is also big so the horse looks small
>>220363041Putting the horse under a roof was a massive mistake. No clue what Nolan was thinking but I am expecting reshoots before it comes out or they are going to say the shots "aren't final" or some bullshit and fix it
>>220362006>>220362094I've always loved Troy and have watched it at peast half a dozen times. It has multiple kino action sequences, tons of quotable dialogue, decent acting, and plenty of fine bitches
>>220362094This is bullshit, Troy was praised because of Brad Pitt being half naked. The only problem people had with this movie was the plane
>>220363243You weren't there, obviously. The only praise it got was Eric Bana being decent.
>>220363388maybe gen x just have shit taste. all i ever hear is about how they seethed and cried about great movies, and they're the ones in charge of hollywood now, so honestly it seems fair to say that they're just a malformed generation
>>220363388I see you are just really old, my bad
>>220362095Kek way to train the jeets
>>220362969>I guess Warner Bros and Zimmer did a lot of heavy lifting for NolanUnderstatement of the decade
>>220363485That's okay, sport.
>>220361980Bravo Nolan
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>>220363451Gotta agree with you, i was there, and everything in the 2000s they ever seethed about was kino compared to what comes out now and if theyre responsible for that then they should just fucking kill themselves lol
>>220361980The animated epic will end up destroying Nolan’s version in the box office.
>>220362075I don't understand him. It seems like if his brother doesn't write it (or at least re-write it) then he is himself incapable of any style at all. Every film he made that seems to have made an impact with the audience this is the case. Poor casting and aesthetics aside, just from what Chris has stated he has no idea how to handle Homer. In a few years most people will admit that Oppenheimer, Inception and Dunkirk were actually pretty mid films, production value aside. Tenant was shit. This will be shit. >>220362876This is visually one of the least shit things released so far.
>>220363728Almost everyone loved the spectacle of Troy but didn't like how David and Wolfgang turned it into campy melodrama. It's meant to feel like an acid trip. Christopher Nolhack will no doubt be giving us more camp.
>>220363388Brad Pitt isn't a good actor, he didn't even want to do the film. But the duel at the end is one of the best fights ever.
>>220361980>the head is made from a single piece of woodjesus christ. are there even trees that large in that region? i doubt it
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>>220364117>>220364274Why are you posting this shit?
>>220364426>Thread about the Trojan horse>Post the Trojan horse>Why are you posting this
>>220364099Pitt is definitely a good actor, he's just not a high register actor. He would unironically fit better with Nolan's script
>>220361980Why does that agora-thing look like it was inspired by a commieblock? Is his goal to destroy any sense of immersion?
>>220364450It just looks like shit. If anything it proves movies peaked in the 2000s
>>220361980Apparently Nolan thinks the bronze age civilizations had access to a hell of a lot of molded plastic and polyester.I was disappointed when Paris didn't vaguely resemble the Joker, after Bat-Agamemnon.Helen-casting shows he still suffers from beauty-dyslexia though.
>>220363388Wow so some critics didn't like it at the time? Holy shit my whole perception of this film change, thanks anon for showing me the errors of my opinion
>>220364816nothing in the movie is true to bronze age civilization, there's really not much point to criticizing it on the grounds of historical accuracy, nolan clearly isn't trying for that. just call it ugly and jarring instead
>>220362006I mean it wasn't LOTR tier, but it was a cut above the rest of the Ancient Greek slop from that time. And Hollywood is apparently incapable of producing anything like it now.Even following Troy, Kingdom of Heaven had this incessant moralizing about the Crusaders being evil invaders. Despite them being a response to constant Muslim conquests and incursions into Europe and the Byzantine Empire.
>>220364910>>220364816lmao I didn't realize people are talking about historical accuracy in this literal fantasy story with a cyclops. I thought it was critique of the quality. What the fuck
>>220362006Troy rules.
>>220364966>Historical accuracyI am ok with a movie about folklore not being realistic, but let's not have everything thousands of years ago made out of plastic and artificial materials. This movie HAD a budget, there's no excuse for half the warriors wearing the same plastic suit in some sub-Witcher/GoT shittery.
>>220362713> those pillars Jesus Christ.
>>220364966>I thought it was critique of the qualityThat's what they're doing anon. Almost everything released from this film so far that people use or wear looks like a plastic part that came out of a 10+ year old 3D printer. That's an aesthetic quality that breaks immersion.
>>220364966>lotr_bmw.png
>>220364966Trojan war is based on a real war that got exaggerated over time through oral tradition.
>>220362713Even The Immortals tried harder than this.
>>220365027>plastic and artificial materialslmao you think greeks didn't know how to sculpt and varnish wood?
>>220364966The Trojan War actually happened
>>220364966are you fucking stupid?
>>220365150>plastic and artificial materials>lmao you think greeks didn't know how to sculpt and varnish wood?Is this a bot
You can actually visit one from Troy irl.
>>220364274what a horrible shot.can't even see what it is from the first few seconds as they pointed the angle from above and straight on.easy as pie to film a bit from the side so you have the horse's profile.i'd kick the tv if that dogshit came on
>>220365234Holy mother of soul
>>220365234>>220365267The movie gifted it to the IRL city of troy, whats left of it. They have it there in the middle of their city.
>>220365197the point is there's no such thing, the entire horse simply looks like varnished wood
>>220365362It looks like wood-grain plastic, because that's what it is.t. former woodworker
>>220362713Jesus. This is so bad. What's the source for the pic. I guess the boat from the trailer looks okay.
>>220365362nta but off the top of my head, you would need>multiple, massive pieces of hardwood that are the size of California redwoods>likely towed by boats, somehow>multiple men working for several months on just the head and leg pieces in separate groups carving, sanding and etc out of such large single pieces >another team of guys making the most ornate and massive project they have ever taken on for the rest of itsAnd it would still look like plastic parts on this impossible thing. All with a bunch of half-starving sailors who just fought many years in war. Meanwhile this >>220365234 actually looks like something sailors could make in a few weeks and from ship scraps. It would actually be really impressive if they could even pull that off.
>>220365586The boat is a fucking longship. I really like Norse/Scandinavian maritime history desu, like it is an obsession even. But it's totally out of place. Mycenaeans had much larger (and slower) triremes that could ram. Giving Odysseus a longship is like giving King Arthur a shotgun.
>>220365844Yeah when they made a big deal about building a practical ship I thought it would rival Pirates of the Caribbean but it looks like they are just cosplaying for fun out there
>>220361980The Nolan version looks waaaay to perfect, especially the head and limbs, but also the way planks are bent to fit the contours of a horse perfectly. Looks like a pic of a horse gone through a cgi ai filter to turn it into woodThe Troy version has a lot of soul but is a bit too crude looking for my tastes
>bad movie 2004(:>bad movie 2026):<
>>220367497>bit too crude looking for my tastesRemember in the story they had to knock it up over a single night.
>>220367551>I am retarded, there is only good and bad
>>220367577Yeah that's true. I also like how you can tell it's just made from cannibalized pieces of wood from their ships
>mogs both your sloppy hollywood films to hell and back
>>220364910its ugly and jarring because commies can only pervert and uglify art, and that's who hollywood is.
>>220367752and nolan is a commie because...?
>>220364966Damn, anon, you sure are fucking stupid
>>220362006spbp
How can Nolan produce so much kino and so much slop at the same time?
>>220364910Nolan's Troy is ugly.
>>220361980the bottom still is an example of the horrifically ugly grey featureless millennial art design of the 00's, 10's (see also: the trolls from LOTR), the top one looks much better
>>220362713>>220365046Pillars from that era were known to be circular with cuts in them to make the aesthetic.What a fucking joke of a movieEveryone's going to see it, it's going to make a billion dollars, then everyone is going to hop on the internet and critique it for the shit movie it's going to be.
>>220368563>Pillars from that erathe Illiad is set in the late Bronze Age, not in Classical Antiquity
>>220361980Mogged by a 60 year old Doctor Who episode.
>>220362094i remember my mom got a poster of brad pitt from this movie for my sisters and my dad was okay with it because the movie was so good
>>220364966>dude there’s a cyclops’s that means you can completely disregard the historical period it’s set in!Retard
>>220361980>>220368666also mogged by a bunch of literal who minimum wage workers at an amusement park in spain. i remember seeing these performances as a kid vacationing in spain and it was so awesomehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXswTuIrbVU
>>220368744>you can completely disregard the historical period it’s set in!you can totally do that regardless of the presence of supernatural elements, and it usually results in kino
>>220364966you have poop for brains
>>220367497>The Nolan versionIt's just waaay to much like exactly what you'd think a trojan horse in a mainstream/Netflix film to look like. generic and all that.
>>220362094I saw Troy in high school with me m8s and we all loved it. Brad Pitt's acting is hammy as fuck (but still kind of fun), but all the other actors are perfect and the spectacle of the whole thing was great. Troy was never a masterpiece, but this idea that everyone hated it when it came out and only now look back on it fondly is pure revisionism.
>>220361980How retarded did they have to be to not realize there was a squad of dudes in that shit? lmao
>>220362001fpbp
>>220361980>obvious trapdoor in the stomach (even if it were closed)oh also the face looks like shit, like they did the cgi at a lower resolution. looks like a 90s prerendered videogame cutscene.
>>220361980>huge bronze horse that would cook you to death instantlybravo
>>220361980In their defence the Trojan on the bottom looks cool but it's ugly as shit. Seems more like an insult than a gift.
>>220364737To be fair, it's a 90s TV show.
>>220370058>hot white women in revealing clothingXena mogs every modern fantasy show for all its cheesey production values.
>>220369292>looks like a 90s prerendered videogame cutsceneYou trannies have been saying this for 3 decades at this point. It obviously doesn't look like the 90s mate.
>>220370058When people talk about avengers cgi will they say the same? Hey, well, it was almost 15 years ago.
>>220362051Ridley Scott became black, you can’t prove otherwise, were you fucking there mate? His name Raylay Scott now.
>>220370131Yeah, that totally excuses bad CGI like that shit Spielberg smeared all over the screen more than 30 years ago with JurASSic Park.
>>220361980I hate this revisionism.You were just a lil zoomer back then, Troy was (rightfully) shat on back in the day as much as Nolan's slop is right nowJust because new bad, doesnt mean that old shit is somehow good now
>>220368563were you there?
>there's a giant horse statue? bring it inside our walls for some reasonit was shitty writing 3000 years ago
>>220368428he's a slopmaster
>>220361980Troy is shit. Nolan's version looks even worse. We will never get a proper faithful adaptation of the Illiad and the Odyssey with the Greek gods.
>>220368563>then everyone is going to hop on the internet and critique it for the shit movie it's going to be.There will be as many people praising it too, less so on 4chong though.
>>220370170What the fuck are you even talking about lmao
>>220370172>Just because new badDo you seriously buy into anything new is bad bullshit? Dumb fucking esl.
>>220370307Well look at you! You found a way to feel superior to everything didn't you bitch tits
>>220369327I prefer the bronze aspect to it as well
>>220370434retard
>>220362009That's basically true of every movie now. Back in the 90s/00s everyone thought movies had become garbage because they were comparing them to the still lingering golden age of the 50s-80s. Nowadays movies are actually garbage and the ones made in the 90s/00s look like masterpieces in comparison.
>>220370457Yes I feel superior after pointing out that two bad movies are bad.
>>220361980>3 dreams deep
>>220362009Work for anything, any random action flick for 25-30 years ago is a masterpiece compared to the modern stuff
it's a simulation, all those errors (blacks and square columns) are glitches.SCREENCAP THIS
