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>>220375427
Oh boy, that one show that started with several white male leads who all died one by one to be replaced by a cast of nothing but women and minorities and women minorities.

Kino
Disappointed by Dev seeming to more firmly side with the bad guys though.
Like what even was that plan- even if you get the rebels to cave to your demands, aren't you still likely dooming everyone there, by crippling the food production? With how long it takes for Earth to send supplies, which there's no guarantee they will do

>>220375522
There's no need to lie about something you haven't watched

>>220375545
>Disappointed by Dev seeming to more firmly side with the bad guys though
Yeah, I was hoping he'd be more based. Maybe nearly killing Alex will bring him around. I think there's also going to be an element of the titan landing inspiring/unifying people, like apollo-soyuz did in s2, which will help the Martian cause

>>220375558
Where's the lie, faggot?

The timelines seem to be a bit wonky since July was shown in passing on some screens and stuff and we've supposedly had a 6 month time jump, but regardless this episode is for sure set on September 4, which means we're a month out from the presidential election. Kgb lady also said korzhenko has a month left tops. I wonder if leadership changes will work out in mars's favour. Could be a carter/reagan Iran situation

>>220375582
Toby Kebbell is now the top billed lead of season 5. A white male.

>>220375593
*two months, I forgot October exists

>>220375593
That's something I wish the show touched on. If it took the Titan mission only about 7 months to get there, there must have been a MASSIVE advance in space propulsion tech which they've casually glossed over.
Because at their closest approach, the distance between Mars and Saturn is about 5 times the distance between Earth and Mars, a trip which itself took many months initially

>>220375545
>stuck in 1 room for 6 months
>only plan to stop the coup is mass suicide
is he going senile or something? is that gonna be a plot point in the next season?

Kelly not only making her dad proud by defying orders but finally making a Baldwin the first to somewhere was kino. Also like the most interesting thing she's done in nearly 4 seasons on the show

>>220375665
Iirc in the season 4 news reel they mentioned helios had developed engines that could get from earth to Mars in as little as a month and didn't require transfer windows, so they've had better engines for a while and were 10 years past that. Whatevers fitted to sojourner is as powerful as the plot needs it to be I guess

>>220375698
Another issue is that if anything could really make the trip in that time, it wouldn't be chemical rockets. It would be something else like nuclear electric or fusion propulsion.
So it makes little sense that the other Titan mission failed and was doomed because Oh no, they ran out of propellant...
I get that the dramatic beats matter more than the technical basis but still it's kind of weird how they depicted it

I just realised, Avery's dad is directly responsible for the death of Alex's dad. I wonder if we'll see a conversation between them once she gets deployed to mars

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>>220375698
Indeed, they call this technology fusion plasma engines and it was introduced on 1999 with the unity spacecraft that Miles arrived Mars with.

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>>220375846
The problem with Kosmos-1 was that they failed atmospheric entry. It was never said that they run out of propellant. However it was said that Sojourner-T had to land on Titan and produce more "fuel" and could not return to Mars otherwise. No idea what this "fuel" is (could be He-3 or Argon), but there was no talk about propellant.

>>220376122
i think kosmos-1 mentioned propellant when they said they didnt have enough to perform whatever other burn the sojourner crew suggested to save themselves, but yeah, the big issue was fucking up the aerobrake

it was mostly the sojourner crew talking about prop since (presumably as kosmos had) theyd planned for making more on titan so their resources were very limited for a burn bypassing titan back to mars

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>shows up
>says "aw geez" a lot and offers no practical benefit to the situation
>refuses to elaborate
>leaves

>>220376162
I rechecked the scene and you are absolutely right. They do mention propellant. If we give them the benefit of a doubt they could be talking about liquid argon like the image I posted shows.

>>220376257
correct me if im wrong (my entire knowledge of rocketry stems from fucking around in ksp kek) but "propellant" as we use the term (in the context of rocket engines, anyway) is the combo of fuel + oxidiser, right? ie. its the substance needed to make the engine propel itself. i guess in their universe if theyve moved onto nuclear engines that take liquid fuel only, its not too much of a stretch to assume "propellant"s meaning has shifted to just referring to that, since thats now the substance required to make the engine go (as opposed to the alternative explanation of, "the writing team fucked up")

>>220376304
According to Wikipedia propellant means any mass that is expelled or expanded in such a way as to create a thrust. So if I understand correctly all fusion rockets still shoot very high energy particles as a propellant. The fusion fuel itself wouldn't be classified as a propellant as it's not shot out to create thrust.

>>220376378
that makes sense i guess. in context itd be the liquid argon but the script actually calling it that is either the terminology changing in-universe or an error from the writers then

Post tracy

>>220375427
>Ugly women designed to offend my male gaze
>Dumb impotent men everywhere
>Everyone has a resting bitch face
>Space exploration gets terribly rushed
>Recycled plot lines
>Everything is so predictable
I'm tired boss

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>>220378554
i miss her bros

>>220375427
It's a show for women like all modern tv shows

>>220378999
thanks anon, i was waiting for you to show up. checked, btw

>>220378934
You should watch Damnation

I hate the zoomer chink and his gf

>>220375427
that first season was pretty good but every since they got dem colonies i just dont give a fuck about any of this shit

>>220378236
no, post her granddaughter about to deploy to mars and go crazy and kill her entire squad

women talking on the moon
women talking on mars
mall cops in space
even the north koreans are fat gay americans

Show took a nosedive after RDM stepped back as showrunner. It’s so boring now.
I’ve run out of residual fondness for the first two seasons. Unless they really stick the landing, it’s my last season.

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Well hello beautiful

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>>220375427
I love the feeling of 2nd-hand embarrassment in the morning.

>>220375522
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4Tbji8ZsN0

>>220379586
same, I still watch because I have completionist disease but it feels like a completely different show now and the supposed climaxes don't feel earned at all. For example this episode had a mini-focus on the Titan mission with cheering at the end but it was like a pale imitation of similar moments in previous missions, you don't know anyone in the control room that matters operationally, you get a fraction of the stakes since there was minimal exposure to how they planned it and the tension is forced in with the death of the rival crew in the same episode. The Martian cheering at the end felt hollow to me because of this.

>>220380695
this was some OA level of cringe, really don't get what they were thinking

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What happened to this bitch's nose

>>220380695
For me it's the fake russian accents

>>220380727
just stop man. save yourself.
i have the same disease and it made me watch eight series of dexter when it became shit and pointless after the first two, and then when I finally stopped avoid breaking bad years after it had stopped being made, I watched the whole of that despite it being similarly repetitive overhyped crud.
whenever I did stop watching something that was turning sour, I felt better from it and seldom ever thought about the thing again. save yourself the misery, the thought and the soiled perspective of the thing you once liked, and just stop completely. don't read about it o watch anything to do with it. within a few months you'll feel cleaner, and you'll be developing a skill to break that autocompletionism disease

>>220380695
I saw this screenshot before getting to the scene and I can't think of a better reason to drop the show, it's even worse than I thought.

>>220380695
How the fuck did anyone survive? Fucking kek

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>they actually hit the ag domes

>>220381590
I stuck with TWD through all the shit seasons and even the retarded spin-offs, although I do ffwd through any predictable scenes. I'm the same with books as well, but have managed to prevent this in video games. Honestly it's probably just continuous exposure as you say and the routine of watching an episode of something every evening. If I got more hobbies or whatever to fill that timeslot I'd probably be better off and drop this bad habit.

>>220381504
yeah, noticed that, the girl seems to witching it off and on again

>>220382219
She's mocking the russian accent of their mutual fat friend, anon.

>>220381791
Holy kek

How the fuck did anyone survive that dome collapse

why was the governor's wife sending him a morse code message in english?

>>220381450
>Yael Chanukov is an Israel born American actress

>>220382869
you can survive for something like 15 seconds in total vacuum and i guess when its depressurising over time you have a while before youre at that point. theres a scott manley video where he talks about gordo and tracy at the end of s2 thats pretty good, i imagine a lot of the same logic applies

>>220380695
I found it jarring how the alternate timeline has some of the exact same modern pop songs as ours

>>220383051
nicki minaj is simply so powerful she transcends the multiverse

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>Look at me! I'm hijacking the ship! Because I'm Kelly Baldwin!

>>220381504
>>220382991
My impression is Yael's parents are Russian-speaking Israelis. So from her it's closer to a real accent

>>220383137
ive been a kelly hater as long as shes been on the show but considering who her dad is i think disobeying orders is pretty fair from her

>>220383051
For me it's how Breaking Bad appeared in the flashforward at the start even though America has universal healthcare in this timeline so the plot wouldn't even make sense

>>220376498
>is either the terminology changing in-universe or an error from the writers then
there's also the possibility of it being intentional so the people with no technical knowledge or 'tism to investigate can understand what's going on

This episode was kino. I loved the dance scene. Can't wait for next week.

>>220383949
The dance scene is neat but also disappointing when it turns out Lily didn't go back into the corn to take her dress off

>>220383949
normalnigger scum

>>220375427
Can someone tell me what exactly is the point of the Titan mission.

>>220384713
To find the protomolecule

Can't believe this show made me nostalgic for flash mobs.

>>220375427
>Space show not about space
Garbage show with one identity crisis after another. I stopped watching when the whore mother started talking to her dead son's friend and complaining about her husband in space. Fucking ridiculous masochistic show written by retards for retards

>>220384713
robots they sent there found like an 80% chance of molecular life or something along those lines, so theyre taking their best instruments or whatever to go check and bring it back

>>220380756
This season is set in 2012 when flash mobs were super popular.
https://youtu.be/ROPesXv2z1U

>>220384713
To discover the first life beyond Earth.
Life which will likely be small, simple, microbial, so a normie might go "Huh? Whatever..." but it's a huge deal to anyone science minded

>>220380756
this >>220384879 plus maybe im just easily amused but i thought the whole sequence was genuinely funny with alex getting ready and doing more and more pushups and then his general bemusement with the flash mob, lee joining in, etc. it was dumb but a funny moment and cute between alex/lily

and also they needed plot reasons to have more people in the dome so they could kill someone to have consequences for devs attack but not someone as important as alex or lily

>>220384879
I lived through it, but I thought this was Best Future where mankind has a solid chokehold on space and isn't doing retarded flashmobs. Man fuck those things, my first internship was in 2013 in a big corp and fellow interns were flashmobbin all the time for Facebook or our internal corp social network (think LinkedIn but instead of looking for a job you have to create artificial content so the KPI thrallmasters give you your bonus), either they were doing this or those 'Day in My Life' videos that made it seem like they lived for the job. Fuck I hated 2013

>>220384926
I had to skip that whole Alex sequence as it's just something I've seen a thousand times before. I like the young cast though, they're no kinoman but still pretty decent, wish the writing was better on this season...

>>220384713
They are doing the alien abduction and dissection except humans are the aliens

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>>220384871
>marketed as an alternate history space race show
>the pilot sets up one of the most interesting universes ever put on screen
>they explore real plans from NASA
...
>the wife complains about being alone
>starts seeing some hippie because she is le alone
>kid dies
>she starts literally having sex with her dead son's friend
>this is actually a plot point in the show
>this is actually on screen for more than a few minutes
I'm convinced this is only being watched by neurotic women and their whipped fiances

>>220384974
>I lived through it, but I thought this was Best Future where mankind has a solid chokehold on space and isn't doing retarded flashmobs. Man fuck those things, my first internship was in 2013 in a big corp and fellow interns were flashmobbin all the time for Facebook or our internal corp social network (think LinkedIn but instead of looking for a job you have to create artificial content so the KPI thrallmasters give you your bonus), either they were doing this or those 'Day in My Life' videos that made it seem like they lived for the job. Fuck I hated 2013
i guess i technically lived through it but i was 12 in 2013 so i guess it kinda went over my head. also, im a bong, and i feel like they were mostly a burger thing?

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this is actually what titan looks like why did they make it blue?

>>220384974
>solid chokehold on space and isn't doing retarded flashmobs
People are going to have fun and teens are going to do goofy teen stuff, regardless of civilization progressing and advancing differently. Jeez

When are they going to show the fucking Kuznesov Station that they teased? I thought that was going to be the focus this season. Mars is boring. All series and films set on Mars are boring for some reason except for that Arnold flick

>>220385236
That Huygens image is not what a human eye would have seen if it was there. It's heavily processed and brightened to clarify the surface features, since it's very dim.
Visuals on Titan could vary drastically depending on the orbit or "time of day," whether it's receiving light directly from the sun or reflected from Saturn, and so on.

They probably also took some artistic license and avoided making it orange so that it would be more distinct from Mars

>>220385067
nah i'm yuro and we had those as well, had to live through the whole thing, fucking flashmobs at my college, at my job, in the fucking streets. It wasn't like it was everyday but after the first time you get surprised by one and get past the novelty of it, they all just blend together, even the ones where it's all aging office ladies being all clumsy and laughing together where you can see they must have practiced a single time before giving it a go.
>>220385295
I hoped teens in space would be cooler, honestly it's probably not that bad and I just have heavy bias from having seen too many flashmobs IRL and in media.

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JUST

>>220385673
>2022

>>220385720
Yes it's old and not relevant to the show, I just found it shocking, among the image search results.
How much better or how much worse makeup can make someone look

>>220375665
They had NERVA engines (nuclear thermal propulsion) as early as season 2, and by season 4 they had fusion based propulsion which they mention allows travel between earth and mars in only weeks.

best episode of the season, top 5 episode of the whole series tbdesu

>>220375522
the asian and the latina are cute though

Shouldn't they have a new president by this point
Gonna be corny as fuck if they make it JFK Jr like they've been hinting at

Right now there are zero interesting actors in the show. Still a good watch as an alternate reality series

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>>220387174
Picrel is in the show, is he not interesting enough?

>>220387212
wat

>>220386963
See >>220375593, the time jump should have put us past the election but we're in September. It probably will be jfk jr, but his entire presidency will basically occur between seasons (which is likely by design since there's no high quality archival footage of him for them to use) and well have someone else for s6

>>220375593
The Soviet Union is going to break up between S6 and S7 and the show will have its version of the Ukraine war

>>220387243
Would have made more sense to use Caroline as by all accounts JFK Jr had no interest in running for office

>>220387340
I mean between S5 and S6

>>220387340
>>220387396
If that happened, I doubt it would happen between seasons. There would be an episode or two dedicated to showing it happen, or showing the immediate ramifications of it

>>220375545
Dev was a real piece of shit in this episode
Starving everyone is not a solution

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i liked the starship dance

>>220387520
It's a question
And the answer is Yes

>>220387476
We got shown the coup deposing Gorbachev in a pretty abstracted way. I could see an independent mars being the catalyst for Soviet collapse but we only really see the beginning of it at the end of this season and then the rest is in next seasons newsreel

>>220387226
That's Miles
https://youtu.be/NxFr7Yn_-DQ

>>220385673
Is this RubyybuR or zurCCruz

>>220385541
>so that it would be more distinct from Mars
It's almost certainly this

>>220375427
Watching now. I’m freaking the fuck out.

>>220388102
TITAN, BABY! WOOOHOOOO.

>>220376033
So fucking cool.

Just turn off the oxygen to Dev's mountain cave. Fuck that nigger. I was really expecting him to have had a road to Damascus moment after the beating and have a whole turnaround on what Mars should mean, but he just doubled down and made himself irrevocably the enemy. Even Palmer thought smashing the ag domes was going too far and he's a cunt. There's no way back for Dev now.

>>220380695
I thought this was fun. Flash mobs were a big deal in the early 00s, it was a nice reference.

>>220378934
Me too. She was crazy hot.

The radio chatter during the titan approach actually made me feel something in a long time watching /tv/, even if it was pretty clear that they wouldn't get burninated. This show has always been good at that kind of stuff.

>>220388289
Me too.

>>220388552
I know exactly what you mean.

>>220387520
>Dev was a real piece of shit in this episode
he killed a Jew though

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>>220375679
Kelly was a retard this episode and the only reason she was successful is because of plot armor. They just saw the kuragin mission crash and burn and they got hastily updated density readings that even Aleida admitted were very speculative. Walt was right to scrap the mission and not risk the lives of 5 highly trained astronauts and a bajillion dollar ship. The show making him out to be an inept loser because he was looking out for his crew was some real bullshit.

>>220382886
I did not understand this at all. American screenwriters are the fucking dumbest.

>>220389383
Also making her son an orphan on fucking mars with no other relatives

>>220389475
And doing it surreptitiously so nobody on the crew even had a chance to say whether they wanted to risk a landing or not, and the initial return to mars plan failure will end up being blamed on Walt uploading the wrong trajectory or some shit and Kelly will be praised for "saving the day" with her quick thinking. Seriously machiavellian evil shit.

>>220382886
>>220389400
Presumably the KGB would be looking for morse code messages in Russian, so one in English would probably slip past them

>expect to have teenage sex with my qt gf
>fruity song and dance number

Bro, I'd be mad as shit, bro.

>>220375427
Haven't heard of this. Any niggers in it?

>>220390740
Fuck off back to >>>/r/kotakuinaction.

>>220375427
I'm not reading any responses because spoilers but I just want to say, I hope earth nukes Mars.

>>220380352
Her son looks nothing her.

The son looks nothing like the dad either.

>Cuck her dad out of the moon landing to set up the entire fucking premise of the show
>Hand the Titan landing to his adopted daughter on a silver fucking platter

>>220391267
>cuck out to set up the premise
The real Apollo 10 could have attempted a landing but didn't.
That was more just incorporating an aspect of real history into the show