obviously Nolan's version is much more kino
>>220378685It feels like Nolan has been playing too much soulslop
>>220378685Bottom would look like shit. Top depends on how well the film immerses you for it to work.
>>220378685Where is that scene in the Armand Assante Eric Roberts version?
>>220378685>implying every soldier would have a full kit of armorEveryone was rich in ancient Greece?
>>220379177>A single example of some weird heavy charioteer armor is found (Dendra Panalopy).Everyone in Mycenean Greece was obviously wearing the shit, DUH.>One or two boar tusk helmets found in high status grave goods and Homer said Odysseus wore one.That means everyone in Greece wore boar tusk helmets, obviously.>A single Sutton Hoo helmet exists.Every Anglo-Saxon warrior wore one.>A single Battersea Shield exists. Every Celt in Europe had this exact shield, it was mass produced and issued by the central government to ever free man. Not hard to believe.
>>220378685Why would anyone bother to make armor with abs? Not being a historically accuratefag here but I don't think anyone ever did this and for a good reason
>>220379760>Why would anyone bother to make armor with abs?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_cuirass
>>220379760Looks cooler, don't think they were that uninterested in aesthetics back then
>>220379760The Romans loved it.
>>220379513>single example>One or two>A singletry to read how archeology actually works moron.
>>220380013No wonder they went under
a giant cyclops is more believable to me than some niggers in ancient greece
>>220378685>le mycenean armourGetting tired of people who only learnt about it from outrage bait. Homeric heroes are basically dark age warlords, except for having bronze weapons, the one mention of Odysseus' boar tooth helmet and possibly Ajax's shield. Later artistic depictions are classical, with typical muscle cuirasses and crested helmets. Mycenaean costumes could look good, but it's not what Homer or later Greeks envisioned, or anyone until 19th century archaeological discoveries.
>>220378868bottom looks great.to is unsalvageable
>>220380088yep, because nigger exist and we know they couldn't possibly be there.Seeing one, is like having Iron Man / anime character jumping on screen.I cyclop is part of the setting and fits the setting.This is something normal that everyone normal everywere always understood. Until now. Well they still do, but they have to lie for political reasons
>>220378685>male size content at least make them women if its your own slop version, nolan fucking faggot
Be honest nobody has read The Odyssey here.
>>220380296>bottom looks great.yes saar i think you make it big. please do the needful and kill yourself
>>220378685>topSlop for jeets and retards>bottomSovl for the white man
>>220380374wut, that shit was mandatory to read in schools waasn't it? and i went to a cali public school
>>220378685Using cheese to make Nolan look better? Measuring down is what hacks do.
>>220378685AI one is more colourful
>>220378685I honestly thought Nolan would knock it out the park but he might have gotten Ridley Scott disease with this one. He did say Gladiator 2 was his favorite movie that year, I just assumed he meant aesthetically. Maybe not.
>>220378868>immersion>dialogue uses words like "daddy"good fucking luck
>>220379760Looks cool, and your abs will be protected by a massive shield 99% of the time in actual combat so whatever, might as well look good when idling with the boys
those are large gentlemen
>>220380457>Gladiator 2 >I just assumed he meant aesthetically. Maybe notWriting was good, though.
>>220380521don't even joke about that anon, don't ruin my day
>>220380490Muse, tell me about a large complicated man.
>>220379760speaking from personal experience, I had a smooth solid steel curass fitted, but during combat I was so pumped up that my abs pressed out the 1/4 thick toughed steel into exactly the shape of my muscles.i expect the same thing happened with the ancients.
>>220380539No, it really was.
>>220380550why does he obscure his visage?
I have a schizo theory that Nolan's movie is incompetent on purpose to pave the way for the entirely AI generated Odyssey movie to make AI slop mainstream. It will work.
>>220380374I read it over a decade ago. was easy to read, it's designed to flow and be memorable, as it was originally simply recited.
>>220380346>>220378685I will now watch your kino
>>220378685>fog>grey armorsbravo dolan
imagine thinking laestrygonians are cyclops
>>220380679>the attack of the 50 ft boner, starring me
>>220380296IMAGINE HOW EASILY IT WOULD CRUSH YOU SAAAAAR!
>>220381034>calls someone jeet>posts aiIronic
Nolan is way too much of a logical thinker to do fantasy. It's why nobody in his Batman films was supernatural.
>>220380679>NOOOOOO DON'T HOLD ME DOWN NOOOOO PLEASE DON'T SIT ON ME, I WOULD HATE IT AND IT WOULD SURELY HARM ME. OH GOD PLEASE DON'T PUT MY HEAD IN BETWEEN YOUR THIGHS UMMMMMFFFFFBFFFBFBFB
>>220378685MUH BIBLICALLY ACCURATE GREEK ARMOUR!!!!
>>220380088>>220380343
>>220382271>Nolan is way too much of a logical thinker
>>220380460He should be saying "oh my bloody bechod"
>>220380679haha imagine being one of those men and the giantess grabs you and puts you inside her smelly pusy haha lol that would be so gross and sticky and ewwwww haha
>>220379177its a fictional story
>>220382789He might as well be as far as I am concerned.
>>220382706Suck my BWC nigger
>>220379513>Everyone in Mycenean Greece was obviously wearing the shit, DUH.Only free citizens and landowners could be soldiers and had to provide their own weapons and armor. leaers and other rich warriors had better and more decorated equipment. Peasants and slaves were rarely used in war, except as lightly armed auxiliary troops.>Every Anglo-Saxon warrior wore one.Same thing as above
>>220380374I'm still struggling to finish Paradise Lost.
>>220382723That's just hilarious and him being an absolute retard while talking about his area of competence.
>>220378685I was an AI trailer for a historically accurate Odessey where all the guys were wearing Mycenaean armor and it got me hyped for AI. If the choices are souless Jewish media with niggers and troons everywhere made by and staring people who hate me and chud made AI, I'll take the AI. The critiques against AI about it being souless and feeling disposable apply to anything made by studios since like 2010.
>>220378685It looks like a Heroes of Might and Magic movie
>>220384772Just like anything else it's a tool to help realize an idea. If you have proper knowhow of cinematography and a lot of reference material you can accomplish a lot.If you're a clueless normie you'll just prompt simple samey slopshit.
>>220378868It'd be neat if they had shiny full sets of armor at the beginningand then it looks shabbier and shabbier as time goes onalthough by the time they get to the lastrygonians, they should be pretty beat up and dirty.
>>220379760desu the most concerning thing about this post isn't the historical illiteracy it's that you clearly lack a basic grasp of human behaviour
>>220382706It's not blacks existing which people complain about, it's the nonsensical "diversity" in the casting. The entire planet was still largely segregated by race, for a bunch of reasons.
>>220385614>It's not blacks existing which people complain aboutYes>The entire planet was still largely segregated by raceNo, that never was the case
>>220385642>geography doesn't existDude what the fuck are you talking aboutWhy do you think different races exist in the first place
>>220385642>no, that was never the caseExpand upon this please
>>220382706
>>220380679
>>220386209>words words wordsthe right can't meme
>>220386209why would they call them "burnt face" then?
>>220386209
black people were invented by the remnants of the knights templar in the 14th century
>>220386503The Trojan war cycle oral myths that Homer compiled go back all the way to the actual bronze age, and it's widely proposed that they go back even longer.
>>220386600>>220386600So your desperate claim is that somewhere in the oral versions of the myths that have never been written down, there may have been a mention of Ethiopians being white?
>>220386486The left can't meme either if you are cherry picking.
>>220386503Ethipians can be anyone from niggers to jeets. But ethiopians in myths are a mythical people who are black from being burned from the sun.
>>220386703proof?
>>220382723When he said that I figured he was just playing to the averagebrains with something dumb that would sound deep to them. Now I'm unsure.
>>220386625No retard, the sources you're using are more removed from the original oral myths than what you're trying to present. So even your earliest source would still be way after Memnon as a mythological figure even would have been conceived and spread around as an oral myth
>>220386854Damn so Homer could really be wrong about everything he says because there were way earlier versions of the myth! I guess the Iliad and Odyssey are not canon to Homeric myth...
>>220386854So you are conceding that near contemporaries of Homer all agreed that Ethiopians and Memnon, their king, was black. And now you have to COPE about how Homer is not canon.
>>220378685It seems like Nolan made The Odyssey wrong on purpose. As a joke, perhaps. Or to prove a point. Many are wondering. Really the only curiosity and buzz about thos move involves speculation about what kind of twist or weird novelty take Nolan is trying to deliver with such strange choices.
>>220378685>you're big guys
>>220378685I never expected it to be historically accurate, but I didn't expect it to look so bad, the big guys look like they belong in a World of Warcraft movie
>>220380460Whats wrong with "daddy"? You know the ancient Greeks didn't use ANY English words, right?
>>220386914Since you're so adamant that Homer was explicitly referring to blacks when he mentioned Aethopia, how about you explain what exactly he meant when he said>Howbeit Poseidon had gone among the far-off Ethiopians—the Ethiopians who dwell sundered in twain, the farthermost of men, some where Hyperion sets and some where he rises,really odd way to explicitly refer to the specific region of modern day Ethiopia.>>220386964What I'm saying retard, is that Aethopia did not mean the same thing that it did in Homer's time since their understanding of Africa would have varied from the time since Homer and the different city states at that time who would have had a different meaning of the word.But go ahead, use Roman sources next because you're too retarded to understand the difference between different city-states, centuries, and civilizations in general
>>220387274>really odd way to explicitly refer to the specific region of modern day Ethiopia.Ethiopia in Homer's day was a term for "place where really black people come from">What I'm saying retard, is that Aethopia did not mean the same thing that it did in Homer'sIt always referred to a place that black people came from>But go ahead, use Roman sourcesWhy are you so obsessed with this cope, incel? I gave you plenty of Greek sources. And even if I were to use Roman sources, those would have a deeper knowledge of ancient Greek culture than you, an American incel in 2026.When ancient Greeks spoke of Ethiopians, they meant BLACK people. People so damn black that they looked like their faces were burnt. Hence the word. Cope and Seethe, incel.
>>220387401Dodging the question I see. Lol, you're asked to explain an actual passage from Homer's poem and you can't answer it lol.You're too simple brained to understand that the idea that Aethiopia meaning "burnt face" is folk etymology, the first person to even propose that idea was from the 17th century. Prior to that, there were other theories and propositions, that one just became the meme theory that became more popular, there's no unanimous agreement that Aethiopia meant exactly that since it wasn't even the standard explanation amongst scholars for centuries
>>220387593>You're too simple brained to understand that the idea that Aethiopia meaning "burnt face" is folk etymology, the first person to even propose that idea was from the 17th century. Prior to that, there were other theories and propositions, that one just became the meme theory that became more popular, there's no unanimous agreement that Aethiopia meant exactly that since it wasn't even the standard explanation amongst scholars for centuriesHi ChatGPTI gave you tons of ancient Greek sources saying that Ethiopians are black, you gave me zero that say that they're white. Cope, seethe, and dilate.
Are there any movies that feature giants? Specifically giantess?
>>220387715Lol, projecting much? You didn't even bother to look into that meme theory and just decided to go with it despite not knowing it was just a theory in the first place LOL>posts a vase to prove a figure is black but stays silent when multiple vases contradict itAnd now he has to move the goalpost from "he was definitely black" to "well...uhhhh.....nothing says they were nordic white specifically...." as if that was even the entire crux of the argument to begin with LOL
>>220387870I didn't move the goalposts at all, incel.I posted many, many sources saying that he was DEFINTELY black, and I pointed out that you have been unable to cite even one source saying that he wasn't. That's one and the same goalpost, sweatie.
>>220387843Bumping
>>220378685>obviously I'm a paid third-worlder
>>220387902many irrelevant sources (including Hesiod) that were all centuries after the trojan war epic cycle myths, that is. And the few homeric quotes you used don't even mention anything about their physical appearance, you even stayed silent when asked to explain what one of the quotes directly from the Odyssey meant, making it obvious that you don't even know what they meant in the first place lol
>>220388016>that were all centuries after the trojan war epic cycle mythsNo, chud, they weren't. You have to resort to lies that I have already shown to be wrong: >>220386503Give me ONE quote that says Ethiopians were white, chuddie, just one.
New promo photo of Agememnon
>>220388037>Once again shows that he's too retarded to understand that Homer didn't write all the myths from scratch and that they stretched back to the bronze age atleastHow about you explain to me why Helen was black first since "white-armed" got you triggered lol
>>220388120No, you don't get to change the topic little incel. Show me ONE quote that says Ethiopians were white, just one.
>>220388120>he's too retarded to understand that Homer didn't write all the myths from scratchSo you are already back to the "Homer isn't canon, there may be oral unwritten myths about white Ethiopians" cope. I thought we were past that, chuderoni?
>>220388150>Thinks proving that they weren't black is automatically trying to equate them to nordic whitemassive leap there retard
>>220388180Ok, prove that they weren't black then. Tell me, chud, why were all the physical descriptions of Ethiopians from ancient Greece - all of which describe them as black - wrong? Why did they all know less about what they thought about Ethiopians than you do?
>>220383287>Paradise Lost*Paradife Loft
>>220378685im starting to really like those realistic greek armorsthey gold and red really makes them look cool when bunch of them are together
>>220388210Its over. The chud has no answer, presumably he has finally committed suicide.
>>220388210>Still conflating what Homer would have understood as Aethiopia with what later greek writers would have understand as AethiopiaLol, he's too retarded to understand that Aethiopa in and before Homer's time was just a nebulous way of referring to unknown lands and not geographical ethnic indicator
>>220388528Why do they ALWAYS describe them as black? Why can't you give me a single ancient Greek physical description of Ethiopians that DOESN'T describe them as black? Why should I trust your 2026 American incel headcanon over ancient Greeks?
>>220388557Aethiopis heavily suggests otherwise since it explicitly names his parentage, and not to mention the multiple vases depicting him (that you would have to blatantly ignore to even keep arguing this)
>>220388616Colors depicted on vases are no indication of skin color, and you will admit so yourself after you look at these vases depicting Achilles and Odysseus.Tell me, incel, does the depiction of them as black here mean that the ancient Greeks considered Achilles and Odysseus black?Admit that you don't have a single text describing the skin color of Ethiopians as other than black, whereas I have a shit ton describing them as black.
>>220387216The structure of language was much more sophisticated. Forget ancient greece , it was more sophisticated /better written in movies 20 years ago.This is just a dialogue that a child wrote
>>220388774>The structure of language was much more sophisticatedAncient Greece had a term for "daddy" though, παππίας. How does that impact their sophistication?
>>220388727LOL, he tried to use a vase where Memnon looked black as proof but now has to backtrack hard when confronted with a dozen vases showing otherwise. Makes sense, he sperged out when someone mentioned that Helen was described as white-armed but gleefully mentions that Memnon was described as bronze-armed proving that he really doesn't pay attention to any of his sources and is just desperately looking for anything that could be even remotely construed as black.He tried to present this as a visual inflection of what Memnon would have looked like but now those rules don't apply anymore to the several other examples of how the greeks visualized Aethiopians
>>220388997Tear-filled rant that doesn't address anything I said.Admit that you don't have a single text describing the skin color of Ethiopians as other than black, whereas I have a shit ton describing them as black.
>>220389012Lol, he really didn't know he had to date his sources but now he has to double down on it despite that someone more informed had to point this out to him, he really doesn't distinguish between the different sources, the centuries between them or any of the greek city-states as a matter of fact
>>220389059>he really didn't know he had to date his sourcesI dated them, chud: >>220386503Meanwhile you still have provided ZERO sources.>m...muh nuances between city statescool show me a city state which left behind writings about Ethopians not being black
>>220389059>someone more informed had to point this out to himYou are not informed chudcel, otherwise you would have been able to provide a single source for your headcanon by now
>>220389127Lol, still ignoring that the myths about Memnon would have long predated Homer. You didn't even include the bronze age, you know, the actual period of time the trojan war would have taken place in. So your retarded graph provides little value since you very likely thought Homer made up the characters of Achilles and Memnon in the first place.
>>220389059>heh, your dozens of sources describing Ethiopians as black do not only stretch across multiple centuries, they also cover different city statesDamn so I guess I proved that all ancient Greeks everywhere and and at all times agreed that Ethiopians are black...
>>220389245>Not understanding myth variance between city-statesTypical of retards who can't even conceptualize what greek mythology actually is
>>220389220>still ignoring that the myths about Memnon would have long predated Homer. You didn't even include the bronze age, you know, the actual period of time the trojan war would have taken place inNot ignoring anything, chud, I already addressed many many times that "there may be unwritten prehistoric tales of white Ethiopians" isn't an argument, but a very sad cope. Here is the fact: all written myths say that they are black. You have not been able to show me a single source that says otherwise.
>>220389260There is no variance though, all the sources say that they are black. Show me a myth that says otherwise.
chuddie is frantically googling right, probably screaming at his mom while punching the walls in her basement, but in the end he will return to post exactly the same hilarious copes as before
>>220389269strawmanning hard, it's your burden to prove that Homer and his audience back then would have clearly understood that Memnon would have been black when mentioned by name. All your sources are centuries after and even in those times, several vases still don't depict Memnon as black which only substantiates the idea that the greeks in general still didn't see him as black despite that that the meaning of the word Aethopian got altered.>>220389284Lol, you think just because 1-2 city states believed in one version of a myth, that the entirety of what would have been greece at the time believed it. Most of these sources aren't even talking about myths in the first place when they're describing Aethopia. Andromeda was also Aethiopian in the myths and she has a direct connection to Herakles, you would think that the greeks would have brought up that Herakles would have had black ancestry considering he was essentially THE greek hero and that would have been an important genealogical myth about their hero (which greek mythology really loves to expand on) but is suspiciously absent on when talking about the "black" ancestor of Herakles"
There were no niggers in Europe and around the mediterranean sea until modern times in any meaningful numbers.That's a FACT only shitlibs and niggerlovers disagree with it.
Lol, he's just compulsively waiting on my next post while he has a mouse in his (weak) hand. If I don't reply in the next 3 minutes he just assumed I gave up or something, what a moron lol
>>220389429>All your sources are centuries afterNo, they're not. You just keep repeating that lie.>Lol, you think just because 1-2 city states believed in one version of a myth, that the entirety of what would have been greece at the time believed itShow me one that didn't.All the sources say that Ethiopians are black, you still have not been able to show ONE that doesn't. Not ONE. And yet you continue your cope!
>>220389448Yeah except for the Moors who rules Spain for 800 years. Let me guess, chud, we wuz Moors?
>>220389467Moors were never niggers you dumb fuck. They started to become negrified when the arabs brought slaves in and forgot to give them the tranny treatment.
>>220389451I am going to bed in 2 minutes, chuderoni, if you haven't found a single source stating that Ethiopians were white by then, I accept your eternal defeat
>>220389457The absolute cope, his sources were the only thing he had to go on but he was too stupid to realize that none of them were actually around Homer's time, let alone way before it. He has nothing to go off of except folk etymology that hasn't even been definitely proven, and sources way after Homer's time LOL>>220389498Relax, I'm sure you'll post this atleast dozen more times for each consecutive month leading up to the release of the film so I can continue to prove you wrong.
>>220389498Go cry yourself into sleep, faggot nigger.
>>220389497>they were never N****s>they became N******simmediately contradicting yourself lmaoits confirmed. black people inhabited Europe in huge numbers throughout the entirety of the middle ages
>>220389516>his sources were the only thing he had to go onDamn imagine having to go on sources rather than incel headcanon>>220389517Still no source. That means you lost forever and you admit it.
>>220389519>N******sIf you turn something into a nigger it's not the original thing anymore, faggot. Also kys.
>>220389535Virgil's Aeneid is also a source, but not a valid one when discussing the homeric epics, which, you actually attempted to do.
>>220389535>Still no source. That means you lost forever and you admit it.wrong
>>220389535>too stupid to keep the anons apartYou are a gay nigger, probably indian as well.
>>220378685Another soul less looking movie with muted color with miss casted fucking niggers. Add it to the other pile of jewlywood slop from the last 1.5 decade.
>>220380679That's not a cyclops though
>>220389608You can't say nigger in here, it's *NSYNC.
>>220387926Why do they keep casting that filthy fucking kike Jon bernthal ?!
>>220389615Haven't seen her from behind.
>>220389625Did I hurt someones feelings?
No niggers. Everyone's happy. No complaints. Niggers don't even watch good movies. Most white people don't watch good movies. Has Niggers. Everyone just debates them being casted. How many black people even know what a homer is? How many can even point to Greece on a unlabled map? What about Eithiopia? If it was like the sand people or whatever in lotr, no one would care. Do black people even know who Helen was? When the ones who look her up after seeing the movie be happy they got a bullshit blackwash for them? Or will they be disappointed to find out that she was ancient greek, ancient turk, or ancient balkin. Which while we don't know exactly what they look like in modern terms, were definitely not black. There would be way way more obvious tells. Instead of "his skin some like bronze" it would be "sunlight glimmered on his obsidian skin like moon on the ocean" or thousands of other excerpts. This movie is going to be shit. I don't like the white cast either. Literally trannies and faggots. Matt daemon is the best here and he is total shit casting for this.
>>220380679I would pay for this and watch it
>>220380416It was for me too, and I I’m a Bama hick.
>>220389638Nigger.
>>220378907It wasn't in it like a 1000 other ones
>>220380679God have mercy.
>>220380416Shocker, when kids graduate no matter what they don't do shit in class
>>220389626Ha has the keys to the yard
>>220387926Obviously Helen should be played by a Turk
>>220378685>There's constantly fog in the forestThis trope is so fuckng tiresome
>>220389845Why would a woman from Sparta be played by a turk?
>>220389845>turksthey are arab invaders who showed up way later
>>220389894>Turks are Arabs
>>220389931Turks are arabs, libshit.
>>220389931Look at where the first ottoman waves came from, faggot.
Now everyone is arguing about turkey from 2000-3000 years ago. Like anyone knows what olive, or bronze, or tanned people looked like. Going off of black paint on red clay. Just fucking nuts. Or when turkish people all suddenly became Arabian. Like that makes sense. All of the gold haired 9ft tall greeks all fell over dead and were replaced by slightly brown skinned people like every where else in a 100 square Mile radius.
>mogged by 60s italian TVwhat the FUCK did Nolan mean by thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i9NFF05_YU
ON NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>220378685is the bottom pic Ai
