How the fuck do you even counter this shit?
>>220382097There's no counter you just have to avoid being netted in the first place.
>>220382097I used to do ancient Rome reenactments and we would do unscripted gladiator fights with mock weapons. The retiarius almost always lost because the net can be easily dodged or swatted away, and not having a shield is an enormous handicap.
just reverse the method of capture
what about this
Choose your fighter
Nets are humanity's ultimate weapon
>>220382170scissor :DDD
>>220382097Roll forward into him then hit him with a light attack. Then I’d just put my shield up, get behind him, and backstab him.
>>220382170Can I upgrade Scissor’s buster arm if I bring Roll spare parts I find?
>>220382149You were just shit at it. Have you never seen a fisherman or a cowboy? Throwing stuff takes a lot of practice the skill ceiling is unbelievably high.
>>220382170murmillo's hat looks like daffy duck
>>220382217Presumably you're fighting against someone of an equal skill level. Makes no difference.
>>220382204no substitutions!
>>220382170I am Retardius, cousin of Retiarius
>>220382170Scissor but with a mantis blade attached to arm.
>don't get a perfect throwwelp
For me, it's Laquearius.
>>220382454Paeginarius for that sweet sweet 2026 plot armor
>>220382170>Trax>Murmillo>SecutorThat's just the same guy, who designed this shit?
>>220382149>>220382387You still have a weapon with longer reach than a sword. For anyone actually trained in armed combat that's a massive advantage.
>>220382097Even the Strongest Creature on Earth lost to a net.NETS ARE....STRONG!!!
>>220382217"Throwing stuff" takes a lot of practice, and the practice teaches you that it is way simpler than you are making it. A lasso is easy to throw as are tomahawks and knives. The number of rotations is determined by simple distance. The "hard' part is knowing when to release the lasso or knife, and that is accomplished by pointing at your target and releasing at the same time.
>>220382520Your reach is largely negated by your opponents shield. There's a reason that spears and pikes were almost exclusively used for fighting in tight infantry formations.
>>220382240>just don't get shot"I can beat a gorilla" energy.
>>220382588Someone well trained in throwing a net will be paired with someone equally well trained in dodging/parrying a net.
>>220382170Holpomachus and Secutor obv
>>220382586Your hypothetical is bullshit considering they did in fact dominate.
>>220382217>Throwing stuff takes a lot of practiceYou are physically built to throw stuff. I'm not even memeing. There are 3 things that set you, as a human, apart from the animal kingdom in order: throwing stuff, endurance, brains. Throwing stuff does not take practice. Babies throw stuff.
Now for a REAL fight. Who'd win??
>>220382170My homie Crixus/Murmillo
>>220382604Not sure if legit retard who played too many video games or legit bait. Have another (you) I guess.
>>220382613>dominate They didn't. Retiarii were some of lowest ranked gladiators in terms of prestige. Although some later developed cult followings among women and gays due to the fact that their faces were visible.
>>220382643Not an argument. But thanks for the (You)
>>220382454Sex with Gladiatrix.
>>220382454Veles is OP>javelins>sword and shield>rad fursuitonly one with a proper ranged weapon and none of his opponents are fully covered with armoryou put that guy against the paegniarius or bestiarius and it's not even a fair fight
>>220382097a long spear/pike with lightweight spokes coming out of the shaft near the end. when they throw the net you can block it with the spokes. QED
/DIMACHAERUS/
>>220382698>it's not even a fair fightOf course it wouldn't, the paegniarius was the half time show and the bestiarius fought beasts instead of other gladiators.
>>220382454
A gorilla is 500lbs. A grizzly bear is 2,000lbs. The gorilla would die almost immediately and it wouldn't even be a contest.If it was a black bear or some other kind of small bear sure, but a grizzly bear or brown bear there's just no way.
>>220382520Any shield is going to invalidate your range superiority. Once they're inside your reach your dead.
>>220382623>>220382773
>>220382163I still play original Rome: Total War over 20 years later and I just phalanx cheese the shit out of every defense. I fucking hate defending cities I just want to build cities and expand but AI is assdog and just attacks the obviously more powerful player becuase JUST BECAUSE OKAY so yeah I phalanx cheese dwi pre patch 1.3 I also just light lancer stacked and went full CHAAAAAAA god i love that game
>>220382181Nukes got nothing on nets
>>220382773Gorillas compensate their lack of bulk in sheer agility, also they're the strongest ape out there and much stronger than bears on account of denser musculature alone. They also have opposable thumbs, nature's prime force multiplier. The bear is fucked.
>>220382623nigga be for real
>>220382856One swipe to a tendon or the face and the gorilla is done. Gorillas aren't trained to grapple or wear our their opponents.
>>220382856>it's stronger pound for pound so it will winBy this logic, an ant will beat a gorilla. The reality is that a brown bear would decimate a gorilla with a single swipe.
>>220382856Bears are found on almost every continent, Gorillas and apes do not live where there are bears. Your take on things is dogshit.
>>220382939>apes do not live where there are bearsGibbons and Orangs cohabitate with bears thoughbeit.
>>220382882Yep, just as I expected: highly telegraphed moves, low move variety, brute strength with zero intellect. The gorilla would just strategize its way to a win, grappling is just too OP.
>>220382163> Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Alexander the great unbeatable Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Phalanx Like Nigga Step to the Right Haha
>>220382186lol
>>220382163>pwns your phaglanx
>>220382856yeah if its a koala bear lmao
>>220383060Koala bears almost all have STDs, and gorillas are practically niggers... they would not kill the koalas without raping them first. In a round about way the bear still wins by not being practically niggers.
>>220382454I don't really get full face helmet but tiny shield and no body armor WHY???
>>220382170>Human rock paper scissors Fucking ingenious
How is having a spear not an instant win?
>>220383297Bro, the other guy has a net.
>>220382162LMFAO
>>220383329Okay, meet me in la 1v1, I'll bring a spear and you bring a netLet's see how effective you're little gay net really is.
>>220383407It's actually a big, heterosexual net so there.
me, personally, i would be a bow and arrow gladiatora bowrillo if you will
>>220382698That is why Gladiator fights had rules pertaining to matchups. You don't put an obviously disadvantaged gladiator against one with an enormous advantage over them. You'd see match ups where one type of gladiator could be expected to fight a gladiator from a small pool of other types of gladiators. Or, alternatively, they would have two types of gladiators go up against one guy that neither would ordinarily fight in order to even the playing field. I recall reading about this in a book I used to own on gladiators because I knew about there being different kinds, and how it seemed extremely unfair to put certain types of dudes against other types of dudes.
>>220382149retiarius were supposed to be shit
>>220382170Why the hell has no kino depicted Scissor yet? This is criminal.
why are humans so violent bros
>>220382517>Shield classes are like different weight classes in boxing
>>220382454>the black Paegniarius holding the whipHO HO how the tables have turned
>>220382856>>220382623
laser it
>>220382170Doesn't "Secutor" mean scissor ?
>>220382517>>Trax >>Murmillo >>Secutor >That's just the same guy, who designed this shit?The Thraex was a parody of Thracians. When the Thracians became Roman citizens it was politically incorrect to make fun of them, so it became the murmillo. They liked pairing the murmillo with the retiarus because it was symbolic of a fisherman catching a fish. But the net kept getting caught in the murmillo's helmet, so they smoothed the helmet out and the murmillo became the secutor.
>>220382454>Black one is called LaQueriousLmao bullshit you made that one up
>>220383519And yet, he was there.
>>220383113It’s because most gladiator battles were about as real as a WWE match. They’d eat a heavy calorie diet to get chubby so dull blades could cut their skin and show blood without reaching organs. Then they’d just return weeks later with a new costume and name. Actual death matches were carried out by prisoners or slaves sentenced to die.
>>220382621I think I really got nerfed with those Neanderthal genetics because I have that massive brow ridge, the bump in the back of the head, huge ribcage, 60% torso, but can't throw for shit
>>220382170>trans>homomachus>retardiusBRAVO NOLAN
>>220383672>Doesn't "Secutor" mean scissor ?It means "chaser." You're probably thinking of sector, meaning like a slice or cut (including like of a part of a map), from which we get the suffix -sect, as is bisect or dissect.
>>220382623The bear occupies the exact same niche the Gorilla does he's just 6 weight classes above him
>>220382621>things that set you, as a human, apart from the animal kingdom in order: throwing stuff,I've seen the webm of that grandma getting hit in the face with monkey shit
It's a range weapon so I grab the net & pull him to his death
>>220382163Easy, throw/drop a big net overtop of them. The spears will get tangled in the net, the soldiers will all be struggling to free themselves from the net and then the other army with spears can just jab them all to death. Nets are invaluable tools when fighting in unarmed combat. Carry a pocket net with you so you can throw it on people who try to fight you on the street, guaranteed win 9/10 times as long as you actually manage to capture the person in the net.
>>220383716>source: I was there
>>220383506I've seen it in some vidya here and there, but it's also a bit of a speculative class. There is basically one vague wall carving of and very little writing. But it's theorized that the signature weapon was based on a leatherworking device.
>>220382170>pick retiarius>the other fighters keep calling you a retardius
>>220382170As a kid in Latin class, I always figured the Murmillo was GOATed
>>220383113This isn't warfare. This is a spectacle sport.
>>220383799>retardius hurt itself in confusion!
>>220382170You have to go with sword and board or you're gimping yourself
>>220383770yeahhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_99_TQzhHI
>>220382623https://vimeo.com/1044788025
>>220382170mumillo and secutor are basically the same
>>220382170ZULU
>>220383776This isn’t Plebbit retard do your own reading
>>220383519Atleast one based Saint had the decency to try to put a stop to it
>>220383716Makes sense, trained gladiators were investments, and so making every single Gladiator game into a death match would be retarded if they were all just going to be sentenced to die every match
>>220382454>ywn be in a match against a Gladiatrix except she has the whip from Paegniarius
>>220382454>Gladiatrix>Not toplesslol
>>220382454>>220385027>>220384973did the Gladiatrix only fight other women? Or were there mixed-gender matches?
>>220382170Murmillo, as always, I'm 6'1" and 220lbs, literally built for it.
>>220382623Why are men so attracted to this question? Is it as simple as two badass animals makes for a fun imaginary fight? I'm not too interested in combat sports, but I'm sure this crossed my mind as a kid
>>220385340It is that simple. Not even worth questioning. Like why are boobs cool? I don't fucking know but they're really cool.
>>220382097Like this
>>220385750>cod pieceHow big is her dick?
>>220385750Disgusting, that wench should be burned in the stake for crossdressing.
>>220385802>>220385829Maybe she just has an incredibly puffy vulva.
>>220382359in lore this fucks you up more than something like a sandevistan because your brain can't really process having the extra limb with extra joints.
>>220382623
>>220386134MOGGED
>>220385750shes a big girl
>>220382149>we wuz romans n shitYet you get mad when indians reenact mart sharting. Very cringe!
>>220382163Lots of molotovs thrown by slings, it won't kill anyone but it'll break them up.
It's crazy how cool the concept of gladiators are and yet how few media we get featuring them. There's Spartacus, Gladiator, what else? We don't even get many games, there's We Who Are About To Die and that's literally it for the last 10 years.
>>220385065I like those propaganda pieces where they would just drench then in animal piss then release a bunch of beasts in heat to rape them
>>220386344There's Domina which has excellent music but was delisted from steam because the dev had a chuddy melty
>>220382698The praegnarius?
>>220386375Oh yeah I forgot about that. lmao ahahaha still makes me chuckle
>>220386344Spartacus (Kubrick), Ben-Hur, Rome (a little)
>>220382170Murmillo looks the coolest
>>220386358How do you resist the urge of raping them both?
>>220386408Alina of the arena also comes to mind
>>220386494That actually looks pretty good. I guess there are plenty I just don't know about. Thanks.
This PS2 game really hit the spot when it comes to gladiator combat.
>>220386344What? Gladiator shit oversaturates Roman media. If we had more Roman shit, we'd end up getting alot more Gladiator shit in proportion
>>220386607I really wanted to larp as a Gladiator in VR, and unfortunately there just aren't that many options
>>220386617>If we had more Roman shitbut we don't
>>220383716That sounds fucking based and they should bring it back, especially the naval battles!
>>220386638tragic
>>220386711No smartphone, no tiktok, just people living in the moment
>>220386711What's the ladle for?
>>220386743scraping the shit off your asshole
>>220386711>tfw you bring your shitting knife instead of your shitting ladle
>>220382623>>220382856>the strongest ape out there and much stronger than bearsyou niggers say some wild shit I swear
>>220386743Those aren't ladles, they're sponges on a stick. They used those to wipe their asses.
do you think they ever had gorillas in the coliseum?
>>220386801Did they all use communal sponges on a stick or did they bring their own?I don't think it's very hygienic to use a communal sponge on a stick.
>>220386743its a sponge on a sticksmdh at zoomers who never did romans at schoolthe only video of kids doing TESTUDO where anyone throws things at them is fucking cringe american shit where they set it up step by step an i refuse to post it
>>220386841It would only makes sense for them to "teach" you that in schools if you're still using the same system of ass wiping.
>>220386607>down a bunch of dudes in a row>audience starts cheering and howling for youfuck that was a good game I was never able to beat a tiger match though holy SHIT are tigers hard to fight
>>220382170i need a good gladiator game
Makes you wonder if Romans ever managed to link shared ass wiping sponges to illness without germ theory.
>>220382856>They also have opposable thumbs, nature's prime force multiplier. The bear is fucked.This isn't a penmanship competition anon, there isn't a "build a bookcase" challenge either
>>220382097use shield and then discard if it becomes un vieldy.
>>220386711What if they actually had stalls, but they aren't preserved in ruins so everyone assumes it was communal?
>>220382170How is Murmillo and Secutor any different? And trax seems like a better version of them.
>>220383506One was in Gladiator and in Spartacus TV.
>>220386930IIRC Roman bathrooms were considered the optimal place to hang out and share the latest gossip. You'd need to be face to face for that.
>>220387018Those romans sure had big balls
>>220385750lol how she cope herself with the painting.
>>220386826yes is communal. >I don't think it's very hygienicBruh its to wipe the fucking shit obv its not hygienic it would be the same with your personal ladle.
>>220386853we learned it in history lessons. where teachers usually told about common living environments in different eras. Like yes Romans have this ass wipers BUT century later people just threw shit from their windows instead of interesting water ways romans used to transport Shit into cess pools.
>>220386874Romans had rather advanced hygiene until Christians came
>>220386826>>220386801There's disagreement among academics about this. The classical theory was for wiping their asses. Others think it's basically just a toilet brush to keep the bathroom clean.Personally, I'd guess that people actually wiped their asses with leaves. They're free, and get the job done without using someone else's gross ass sponge. And you can just drop it in the toilet like toilet paper.
>>220387258Or they had some running water going down a trench and just spread their cheeks and dipped their ass in it.
>>220386607lol nothing like using a dudes decapitated arm to beat him up and then using his head to beat someone else.And then the game forces you into those stealth twink sections....
>>220387258Zero chance everyone would be sharing the same sponge since it would leave to all manner of skin and venereal diseases spreading and they would be able to pinpoint it since it would start in the area everyone rubbing some gross ass sponge on every day.Or there was a slave nearby that would simply replace the "sponge" or the whole sponge stick after every client.Generally it seems very impractical no matter what.
>>220384927>>220383716Complete YouTube Short/TikTok tier pseudohistory bullshit
>>220382554Yes nets are strong, Neets a nigger subhuman faggot trannys.
>>220387483You overestimate the breadth of Roman medical knowledge. Miasma theory was about as advanced as it got back then.
>>220388034I hope Harrison Ford dies in complete agony knowing that all the characters he played have been destroyed and his only legacy will be knowing that he's shit.
>>220382204Good luck Megaman!
>>220388165They would still be able to detect everyone's ass is crusted up when it was time to break it
>>220387469Wrong game lol
>>220386936how is trax with smaller shield better
>>220382856replies like this is why these discussions are eternal
>>220386607>elephantsfucking sick
>>220386960No it wasn't.
>>220382149Gladiators almost always fought their own kind. So retiarii would fight each other.
>>220389359Completely untrue.
>>220386437you punch yourself in the balls
>>220382163i used to play rome 2 competitively and all you had to do was shoot these retards with arrows and thats why no one uses them online anymore
>>220389554Please don't shoot retards
>>220382097I think it was mostly used in gladiator fights vs. AnimalsBetter off using it like a whip or trying to lasso a weapon or arm with it than throwing it at or over a person.
>>220382163God wish I could travel back in time with minigun and destroy these fuckers
>>220390494or just have them walk into a minefield
>>220390494so Persia would rule?
>>220390556Nah I would enslave them. I would play Gangnam Style from my Iphone and they treat would treat me as God.
>>220385065In Sign of the Cross there’s a gladiator fight between women and midgets
>>220382623gorilla gorilla wins every time
>>220382623brown bear
>>220382773a black bear would still win against a gorilla
>>220382856>They also have opposable thumbs, nature's prime force multiplierThumbs are only useful if you use them to operate tools. Gorillas are vegans they don't kill anything.
>>220383113It's best for single combat, since it's made to easily deflect blows coming at you. During his conquest of the Aztecs a great deal of spanish swordsmen used similar smaller shields. The Highlander in Scotland often fought with similar smaller shields. It's typical in warrior cultures that often engaged in small skirmishes
>>220390893big shield mogs
BRING BACK BLOOD SPORTS
>>220391120The Olympics needs some form of sword fighting that isn't some prancing fruity la-la nancy French shit.
>>220382097Chew threw it with your giant beaver teeth
>>220382623The gorilla could punch a bear for a full minute to no effect and then the bear could decapitate the gorilla with one swipe.
>>220391114Big shield short sword is better for line combat. Small shield long sword is better for skirmishing or for self defence.
>>220391432But the gorilla. He monke.
>>220382170Trax, Murmillo and Secutor are all absolute normie trash. Just different variations on brain dead sword and board. >b-but I have a curved sword and his shield is gripped different- noThere are arguments for the best of those three, and arguments for the best of tge three that show some original imagination, but the only important distinction is if you’re a patrician or a plebeian. For me? It’s the Hoplomachus, but Scissor is a close second.
>Select your post-game companion
>>220383519Would be kino to throw criminals in there, but instead we feed them and allow them to make money for their gang leaders in prison
>>220382454>>220382170do any of these actually serve a purpose or are they just for entertaining the colosseum audience
>>220391656Scissor would be very useful working in a warehouse dock receiving stock. Just imagine the speed he could open cardboard boxes at. Way above KPI!
>>220382454>>220382170>>220382097Retiarius bros....
>>220386370Id watch that
>>220382163Horse archery going round and round until all of the hoplites are dead
Imagine thinking that something a leopard eats can stand up to a bear
>>220389359ITS A NET OFF
>>220391432gorilla has superior speed tho
>>220391680Spartacus gave the gay guy the net weapon, so seems accurate
>>220383716>dull blades could cut their skin and show blood without reaching organsyou are fucking retarded if you genuinely believe this. genuinely pants on head fucking retarded.try to swing a knife at someone just standing still and do your best to give them nothing more than just a shallow wound. now imagine that but you're wearing a big ass helmet, and neither of you are standing still, but actively trying to stab each other. also you've never met the guy you're fighting with, he's some slave from the other side of rome. you fucking mouthbreather fuck you this bullshit myth pisses me off so much
>>220386344https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE-qD24HHQQ
>>220392554>try to swing a knife at someone just standing stilldon't do this, it is against >le law
>>220386930Stalls are a modern invention to combat the modern invention of being a cripplingly insecure child.
>>220392554Do you really think they had their prime fighters that trained for years if note decades go at it every weekend with the possibility most of them will get killed or maimed, thus rendering them useless?Get real.It was kayfabe of its time to play it up as a show. Or maybe similar to boxing these days where it's clearly fixed but fighters still "fight" each other more or less.Even if they started off with real gladiatorial fights eventually it would become clear it's more profitable to fake it and keep the same talent pool, especially if some gladiators get some showmanship skills.
>>220392722i think you vastly overestimate the value of a slave and the resources required to keep them.
>>220392722Military is for sending political undesirables to die before they can be a threat to you.
>>220392798I think the gladiatorial arenas were into profits and it is more profitable to keep a trained fighter than to have him maimed or killed instantly.There are records of long careers for gladiators and that would be near impossible if they were fighting armed opponents ready to kill every weekend.
>>220382170Why would you ever go Trax?Shorter weapon, shorter shield. You don't even have the bashing nob that the other shields have.
>>220392722>trained for years if not decadesyou made these figures up. gladiators fought, typically not to the death but it happened.>its not profitable to kill them!!no it probably isn’t, but again no amount of “showmanship skills” (as being a showman gives you illusory magical abilities) are going to enable you to exclusively make surface level showy cuts when swinging swords with a moving opponent.when they do die? shame, but they’re slaves, so just get more.the “logical” explanation you have concocted flies in the face of the practical reality, which is far more chaotic than you have presented it to be.you’re probably still in high school though so your level of thinking is to be expected
>>220392746His own head took the full force of that.
>>220382856this nigger doesnt understand weight class.
>>220382136>Theres no counter>Just counter it by dodging!
>>220391476smol shield has a smol sword too...SHIELD REAL BIGSWORD REAL BIGPLATE REAL BIGHELM REAL BIGSABATONS REAL BIGHONSE REAL BIG
>>220392207bears are waaaaay faster than gorillas
>>220382856gorillas are not agile and they're weaker than bears... gtfo vegan dork
>>220392554>REEEEEE DULL BLADES ARE MORE DANGEROUS THAN SHARP BLADEShe's right
>>220393051Weight classes are a tacit admission of of defeat, manlet. Real men compete in open competition.
>>220393810weight glasses exist to protect bitchmade homo vegan apes from gigachad bears.
>>220392972Its solid bone from years of training.
>>220386344Cestvs could've been great if it wasn't so fucking low budget and skip random story segments.
>>220382163Maniples of short Italians with short swords.
>>220387018By forcing everyone to use these, you automatically create a slim aesthetic population that avoids eating. Ancient wisdom.
>>220382454>secutor>murmillo>provocateur>samnisThat's the same gimmick, brother.
AVGVSTINVSIII:XVI
>>220382097a shield. which he has
You counter it by getting that bullshit banned.
>>220382097IRL "superhero" Phoenix Jones infamously tried to use a net and got himself caught up in it.Who knew superhero'ing was so hard?>especially when you're dealing drugs on the side
>>220382097Grab it and throw it back
>>220382170I remember this game. And I'm a Retiarius CHAD all the way.
>>220391120give it 30 years and that's inevitably what football will turn into when the tech lords take over
