>2004: Ancient Greeks were blonde Nordic Aryans>2026: Ancient Greeks were niggers and tranniesIs it too much to just portray them as the olive skinned meds they likely were?
>>220395252>Is it too much to just portray them as the olive skinned meds they likely were?both were blond and white skinnedcrazy how you know nothing about the Illiad but still talk
>>220395252>Helen of DeTroy
>Matt Damon was interested in his cleverness and inventiveness, particularly citing Odysseus's characterization in the 2017 translation of the Odyssey by British-American classicist Emily Wilson.[4]>Wilson's introduction covers the dating, cultural context and authorship of the poem, alongside briefly outlining the approach of previous translations.[6] She also discusses some of her translational choices; the poem's first description of Odysseus as polytropos (transl."many turning" or "much turning") could mean Odysseus as passive (he is being turned) or active (he is "turning" other subjects). Wilson translates this as "a complicated man".[1]
>>220395304Odysseus was described as being black-skinned.
Achilles and Menelaus were described as blonde.
>>220395252Is it too much to ask you not to be a gullible NPC falling for stupid fake news?
>>220395313Retarded bot
>>220395313Odysseus was originally described as being Sean Bean, actually. I don't care what revisionist text you've read.
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>>220395352didn't sparta get buttfucked by all the other greek city states? and weren't they ruled by a rich upper class of women?
>>220395352You can tell white people are the best because they never have to resort to this sort of mentaloid propaganda.>And then the stupid foreign stinky invaders were stripped and everybody laughed when they saw their tiny cocks haha and then all their women wrote us letters thanking them for eliminating their husbands from the gene pool lololololyeah sure
>>220395352agesilaus was born 1000 years after the trojan war
>>220395408Men had dark skin from working. There's no need to get defensive over the humiliation fetish you envisioned in your mind.
>>220395393it's even funnier when you realize that Sparta stopped being a powerful state after getting (literally and metaphorically) raped by the Band of Thebes in a single battleSpartans awkwardly realized you can't have new warriors when you condition your best men to be gay and to die in battle while your supposedly subhuman slaves had families and babies
>>220395455Right unlike those soldiers that somehow rode around in carriages all day.And couldnt even plant seeds properly or whatever like TRVU MED BULLS har har.
>>220395455>Men had dark skin from workingActually some men just have dark skin from being niggers.
>>220395410>dem Greeks and Trojans wuz niggaz fore dem whiteys killed dem an made greese white n shit
>>220395393which reddit youtuber made an anti-sparta video and brainwash you faggot into this idiocy?
Ancient Greeks were always ahead of their time. Aristotle basically wrote a whole chapter shitting on both barbarian niggers and snow niggers and he was right
>>220395408I still can't believe they ran with the /pol/ banter of greeks not being White. That was us teasing each other it wasn't meant to be taken as a desperate cope. Posting in a advertising thread.
>>220395538>anti-sparta video...Is there a big industry behind trying to shittalk sparta?Or are you literally just insane?
>>220395560Browns have to grasp for any straws they can reach I guess.
Is this going to be Nolan's first flop?
>>220395565Yes there is in fact a huge industry that attempts to minimize White culture and it's origins. You're posting in a thread designed to force discussion of some shit movie right now
>>220395565there is. leftists see Sparta as fascist, so they come up with lies. nobody 10 years ago ever said those things.
>>220395252this is an upgrade, imobottom two look like modern greeks. top two look like Americans. based brish nolan making sure the odyssey reflect evorpean values instead of American casting
>>220395579No, its going to be another hit. Normies don't care about all the race baiting bullshit that is happening on a tibetan throat singing imageboard. And everyone here will look like idiots once they spoil it for themselves and learn why the casting is the way it is
>>220395584>>220395591That's weird I just tried to find some on youtube but all I get recommended are like thermopylae reconstructions and "historian breaks down 300" type stuff.Where are the videos genuinely critiquing or hating on sparta?
>>220395310He is turning trans, obviously
>>220395606But will normies accept an anorexic looking dysgenic troon playing a role formerly played by gigachad Brad Pitt?
>>220395637Normies won't even remember a movie from 20 years ago or that Brad Pitt played Brad Pitt
>>220395634I don't know, that's what I'm asking. what's the source of this? because it's obviously not organic.maybe it's was just 300 the movie.
>>220395656>what's the source of thisThe source of what? Troll threads on /tv/?
>>220395310πολυτροπος means of many ways or of many devices not turns. even that is wrong.
>>220395661obtuse retard.
>>220395677lol good luck figuring out whos victimizing you
>>220395661Troll? This is standard shill playbook stuff, designed to get people talking about nolan's latest disaster
>>220395711Not succesfully judging from this thread
>>220395393>didn't sparta get buttfucked by all the other greek city states?They were invaded by other greek states but won in the end
The Odyssey has been retold three million times
>>220395325Stupid zoomer
>>220395722They get paid by the bump, which the shilling agencies count as a mention on social media. They get a topic guide so when a new nolan movie is out you'll see threads about his old ones, or sometimes when they're pushing like the star wars threads recently they'll just say whatever and start threads on multiple boards like the star wars game threads on /v/. We've known how all this works for years.
>>220395310What a panderer....
>>220395941Whoops I killed the shill thread kek
>>220395310>>220395252Read the Robert Fagles translation guys. Its the only good one. The forward, written by Fagles teacher from Yale Bernard Knox, outright debunks the post modern lie that "dude Achillies was gay and had gay sex and Patrocles was his gay lover!"Knox was a communist too who fought for the Republicans in the Spanish Civil War too lol.
>>220395252at least we wont have to argue about nolan being a hack anymore. this settles it.
>>220396147>post modern liethat famous postmodern playwright, aeschylus
>>220396147there are no orginals. the jesuits rewrote everything when they "translated" it to latin and destroyed the originals.
>>220396185>homer>latin>jesuitsretard
>>220396215the jesuits destroyed the greek transcripts when they translated them to latin, you illiterate.
>>220395252Ancient greeks looked most similar to modern Turks.
>>220396233nobody destroyed anything you literal retard. we have complete greek manuscripts of both homeric poems from 500 years before the jesuits existed. they were preserved in the greek-speaking byzantine empire, outside of the latin/catholic sphere altogether.
>>220396312you dont.
>>220395606>tibetan throat singing imageboardkek you made me laugh, nice one
>>220395252lmao nolan is a kike hack
>>220396233>>220396215>>220396185The Byzantine-Romans preserved the original Greek manusscripts by copying and recopying. Many of the surviving Greek literature that we have today come from the primary Byzantine-Roman sources, this includes the Epics of Homer and Greek philosophy.In fact, many Greek refugees brought the original manuscripts of Greek and Roman works with them and it was those Greek literary works that jumpstarted the Renaissance.
>>220395252>Is it too much to just portray them as the olive skinned meds they likely were?its what Homer would have wanted
>>220396323yes we do. you're just retardedhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venetus_A
>>220396272Freaking hell.Are you stupid? When the Muslim Turks( the Seljuk and Oghuz Turks) invaded Roman Anatolia, plenty of Roman Greeks and some Roman Armenians fled westward trying to get into Constantinople and Greece. Plenty of Armenians fled to Cilcia. Alexias Komnenos used the 1st Crusade to reconquer Western Anatolia. He later worked out an agreement with the Seljuk Turks of the Sultanate where more Greek-speaking Romans in Eastern Anatolia migrated to the Roman Western half of Anatolia. After his death, his son and grandson were recovering more and more of Anatolia until the disaster of Myriakephalon.Western Anatolia still had it's Greek-speaking population that remained largely Orthodox Christian. Same in Greece where the Greeks largely remained Orthodox Christian. Even after the fall of Constantinople and the Greeks and Armenians had to live under the oppression of the Ottoman Turks.Then there was the Greek War of Independence(the printing press helped) and some population exchanges but Ottoman Anatolia still had plenty of Christian Greeks and even Christian Armenians. That is until the Armenian and Greek genocides and ethnic cleansing. Many Greek refugees fled to Greece and the Armenian refugees fled to Armenia with the Ottoman Turks stealing their homes, similar to how modern day Israelis are stealing the homes of Palestinians.Greeks today are largely the same as the Greeks of the medieval era, with some Turkish genes from the Pecheneg Turks who converted to Christianity and became Romans during the middle 11th century. Modern day Turks in Turkiye have some Greek genetics, but that is primarily in Western Turkey since some Greeks converted to Islam or were descended from captured and enslaved Christians. Ottoman Turks were less likely to convert to Christianity since that would mean getting executed for leaving the Islamic religion.
>>220396352>None of the works on which the scholia in Venetus A are based survive.
>>220395676It just means that Odysseus is a clever, crafty man. This bitch is retarded
>>220396272And modern Turks and modern greeks look the exact same
>>220396339>>220396147the forward from Knox goes through the entire history of the translations from the one Fagles was doing all the way back to Homer, tracing it from the first English translations.
>>220396379Have you heard of the First Balkan War? Of course not. Do you know who muhacir are? Of course not.
>>220396349
ITSALL SOTIRESOME
>>220396389So? Greek and turk arr rook same, sorry turkroach/gayreek
>>220396429sounds like you've given up. maybe kys? no point continuing. make room for someone more able.
>>220396389Have you heard of janissaries? Of course not.
>>220396457Kill yourself Ransheet.
>>220396272>>220396379They don't speak the same language. Also, those Muslim Turks fuck troons>>220396384Oh okay. Only read the W.H.D. Rouse translation of the Illiad. Have not read the Odyssey yet.
>>220396558>>220396365>>220396436>>220396379>>220396272Also, modern day Greeks don't speak Turkish, they speak a Hellenic language descended from Koine Greek, even some Southern Italians speak dialects similar to Greek called Griko/Greko.The Turkish language is not indigenous to Anatolia or Europe.
>>220396147I started reading The Iliad and made to it like chapter 3 or 4 where the entire chapter is just listing every single person that's present at the battlefield. That shit was so boring, I quit.
>>220395252So when this movie flops at the box office, what's the fallout going to be?
>>220396752Brown person spotted.
>>220397004Nope, I'm not Greek.
>>220396272Ancient Greeks looked similar to a people who did not arrive in the region until long after their societies had disappeared?
>>220396834Kill yourself Sukhdeep Manpoo Shitpinder Singh
>>220396411Zeus was black in that series too.
>>220395252Have you heard what Elliott sounds like since trooning? This is going to be hilarious. Stop letting Americans make movies man, holy shit, theres something in the water there.
>>220395252>Troyan War>more like DeTroyitian War
>>220395310>Odysseus as polytropos >translation: "many turning" or "much turning">this could label Odysseus as passive (he is being turned) or active (he is "turning" other subjects).>so I translated it as something entirely different with "a complicated man".not only can they not do their jobs, they openly brag about how bad they are at their jobs and receive praise and recognition for it. someone please make it make sense. how do I get these translation jobs with zero knowledge of their language where I can just make up whatever the fuck I think it should all say and get paid?
So many cast members have no mention of the character they are playing. We are two months away from release. Filming is completed. They know which characters are played by which actors. This is a movie written and filmed while certain people believed they were living in a woke far-left world only to suddenly realize that the movie is being released into a world in which the rejection of wokeness has gone viral.Not releasing that info publicly is obviously damage control.
>>220396834Post hand if you're so tough, AIjeet.
>>220395310Isn't poly = many and tropos = man? Wouldn't it mean something like a multifaceted man? Like a polyvalent man
And of course the jewlywood remake has to replace white with black people. Not with a latino, or polynesian, or scandinavian, or russian, or indian, or asian, or middle eastern, or european. Nope. Black. Always black.Blacks in the US are just 12% of the population. Black males ages 15 to 45 are just 3% of the US population, and yet they appear in just about every single thing produced by the US, UK, and Canadian entertainment industries. Blacks on the whole are just 6% of Canada's population. Blacks are just 3% of Mexico's population. Blacks are less than 1% of the EU population. Blacks are such a tiny fraction of the populations of China, Russia, India, Pakistan, Japan, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Philippines, Egypt, Vietnam, Iran, Turkey, and Thailand that they are lumped together as "other". And yet the US, UK, and Canadian entertainment industry acts as though blacks are 51% of the populations of all those countries. It's beyond the point of absurdity.Can you name which three countries other than Israel have the highest population of jews? The US actually has more jews than Israel. The UK and Canada are the second and third countries. Those three countries have entertainment industries (ex - hollywood movies, tv including commercials, music, and video games) that are obsessed with showing blacks disproportionately to their actual population numbers. Coincidence, I think not.At the same time, those entertainment industries completely ignore other races of people. It's always black replaces white, and it has become obvious to the point that absolute normies have noticed and are openly talking about it and mocking it.
>>220396834AI can't do this.
>>220396834Ever heard about the holy roman empire? Dumb ass kike
>>220398959How is the HRE in any way related to the ancient Greeks, chuddie? Explain your wewuz-hypothesis.
>>220395252BRAVO NOLAN
>>220399573BRAVO!TRULY A VISIONARY!
>>220399573Why does troy agamemnon have a shittily shopped helm?
>>220395252One of those is objectively more inaccurate than the other. The genetic distance between Germans and Greeks is somewhere around 0.008. The genetic distance between Greeks and Kenyans is around 0.12. This woman is ethnically Greek. Which of the two looks more like her?
>>220395252>>220398866Seriously how can amerimutts be ok with this? How can you live like this and just be so passive about it? Your country started with a revolution. How cucked can you be?
>>220401298Have you been paying no attention to American politics lately?
>>220401317Yeah you are right it's over
>>220401336Dude Trump has decreased legal immigration by 50% in one year and made the GOP 100 times more racist. Violent revolution is not the path to victory.
>>220399601need to make everything dark and colorless in order to cover how shit my set, costume, and cgi designs are - Nolan probably
>>220401317>paying attention to American politics Fucking imagine
>>220401386Well I'm American so...
>>220399601Atonement vs dunkirk is better and doesn’t need to be shopped.
>>220395352Note that the difference in skin color is completely attributed in his mind to just having a sun tan. This is not a flex for shitskins
>>220401361>shoot the problems>they stop being problems and producing more problems>noo that's not how you win you have to beg them and pay them to move back home even though 90% will choose to remain where they are to continue deconstructing the west!
>>220401433Why don't you lay out a practical plan for shooting all of the nonwhites dead anon?
>>220398786Tropos means "turn", idiot.
>>220395304>Pre ottoman greeks looked like turkroaches.Why do you izzat niggers do this?
>>220395252is the shitskin screeching about nords just making these threads on loop or something like that
>>220396834You can also replace the golden haired Barbarians with Persians, Huns, Slavs, Avars, Franks, Crusaders, Pechenegs, Turks, Catalan mercenaries from Spain, and Ottoman Turks.Also, the Huns, Slavs and Pechenegs got assimilated into the Eastern Roman-Byzantine Empire.
WASP AmericaMutt Empire
>>220395252>Is it too much to just portray them as the olive skinned meds they likely were?This would make too much sense, but Hollywood is pathologically opposed to common sense, in addition to having total disdain for the general public.
>>220401429Shitskins also have shit for brains.
>>220396850Nothing, hollyweird isn’t really that important and neither is cable news.
>>220401298English director
>>220396834funny thing is the vandals rebuilt much of Rome and forced the whores to marry and live according to Christian values, as they(romans) were Christians by that time
>>220401336Also the "counter culture rebels" that fight in the streets and are ready to die in defense of the elite
>First Nolan movie in over two decades without either Michael Caine or Cillian Murphy>looks to be a shitshow
>>220396411They also said the new Animal Farm was what "Orwell would have wanted". I'm glad the modern media can read the thoughts of dead people
>>220395310>Wilson translates this as "a complicated man".Like John Shaft?
This whole thread shows how the stormfags are literally no different than the black WE WUZ KANGZ crowd:>every great civilization in the world was ruled by whites even if it was on the other side of the earth>if aliens are involved somehow whites were created by them>any historical evidence showing otherwise will have the stormfags just immediately call it a jewish conspiracy theory, claiming that the jews somehow dug 100 feet under pompeii after the volcano exploded in order to paint the people on the villa walls with slightly darker olive tanned skin and then they just left it there hoping it would be dug up later on
>>220403982The Vandals were no longer white Germanic since they racemixed with North Africans.
