Why was Code Geass forgotten while Deathnote remains so loved?
>>220408378Death Note is high concept whereas Code Geass is too complicated for most people to bother with.
>>220408378Because code gayass sucks.
>>220408378because deathnote is hot topic merch, and appeals to midwits that refuse to see the retarded plot holes in the story. code geass is just cool and fun. also code geass is remembered and loved for having such a good ending.
>>220408982TRVTHNVKE
>>220408378Code Geass is like Zorro+Death Note+Gundam with a little bit of I, Claudius, it's a fucking insane anime where the plot is just a paper thin excuse to create drama. Death Note had some bad moments but was solid until the end.
>>220408378CG is more all over the place and the high school stuff is lame. Death Note has high school end immediately at the start
>>220408378Is it really though?
>>220408378Code Gayass more like
>>220408378Code CINEMA more like
>>220408378Last great anime
>>220408378Death note second half sucked.Code geass second season sucked.
>>220408378A regular guy fighting against common criminals is more relatable than a guy with super powers fighting against a fantasy empire.
>>220409548speak for yourself prolecattle
>>220408510So does Death Note.
>>220408378pretty much every person that actually watches code geass ends up loving it, but as mentioned it's a bit too complex for most people and their retard brains to get into initially. some shows like gurren lagann at least starts off slow before easing you into the craziness for example (though I personally find the first few episodes of that to be dull vs code geass, which drew me in immediately.)
>>220408378Because sunrise made a lot of retarded shit with sunriseSpinoffs that are dumbReboots that rewrite original storyJust absolute trash
the happy ending ruined itwhereas Death Note has one of those tragic endings that are hard to forgetthen again LeDouche is a better character than Kira
>>220410005Just ignore the last like 15-30 seconds and it's the far superior giigakino ending
>>220408378decause deathnote isn't a dogwhistle to the trans community.
>>220408378It's literally just the artstyle. It took me years to watch CG because I thought it looked way to weeb-y
>>220409306>>220409441 Code CAWFEE
>also code geass is remembered and loved for having such a good ending
>>220409502This but unironically. Late 00s were great for anime.
>>220408378Because the character design sucks.
>>220410213What did you expect from a show that’s literally called “Code Gay-ass”
>>220410283>he doesn't like CLAMP
>>220408378Was going to say because Geass fell to absolute dogshit in the second half and then I remembered Death Note did too. So I'll just blame Nina
>>220409655Ok, prince.
>>220409680Gurren Lagann has Kamina, while Code Geass has that sissy faggot Ledouche. One character is much more immediately likable than the other.
>>220408378Code Geass isn't forgotten among anime fans, it's just more obscure among normals due to being a mecha
>>220408378>Death Note>Clever original concept>Code Gayass>Derivative garbage
>>220410307Yeah jokes aside calling something Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion is not the smartest idea.
>>220408378Code Geass has a pretty cool basic setting, but it's brought down by the dumb high school junk.
>>220408982most generic predictable ending ever you mean?"im le actually....le good....all according to le plan..." i saw better plot twists in fucking repo man than this piece of shit
Code Geass is anti-semitic as it presents settler colonies as a bad thing
>>220408378Because Code Geass fell off hard in season 2.
>>220410909I don't know, the show takes a turn for the worse when the high school junk stops.
you may not like it but this is peak kino
>>220411453As opposed to Deathnote?>>220411465This. High school and dual identity stuff is always kino
>>220408378Honestly code geass might be the greatest anime ever but I will never give it a chance because the artstyle and character designs look so gay and stupid- like edgelord yu gi oh OCs. Deathnote is a simple timeless story with a more appealing artstyle and character designs+L was fucking cool.
>>220411484I like the part where she's gunning down civvies with the rifle.
>>220411493Death Note's aesthetic is teenage hot topic emo welcome to the black parade shit, hardly much better than Clamp's noodle people.
more like code gayass lmao
>>220411517MCR is based. L, Light and Ryuuk still look cool. Misa is hot. It's not overly weeby and retarded looking like code geass. As the years go by, CG looks more dated and stupid, while death note continues to look fine.Also the concept of death note is pretty simple and universal. I don't want to invest my time in watching a complicated plot like Code Geass originally has when the art and characters look as stupid as they do.
This shit looks like Ouren Host Club with more BL. It's just fucking retarded, I can never take a story seriously when the art looks like this.
Who keeps claiming CG is complex? I watched this shit when I was 11 and it was, and is, fun but Winnie the Pooh has more complexity than most episodes of Code Geass.And that's not a hit against against the show, as mentioned it was and remains entertaining even now but, it's made for retarded teenagers not functional adults.
Kallen should make out with Lelouche, or CC, or Shirley, or anyone else.
>>220411492>As opposed to Deathnote?Death Note tells a complete story with the death of L, you can just stop watching. Code Geass ends on a cliffhanger, and all the questions and conflicts from season 1 are resolved in season 2 (in dumb and unsatisfying ways).
>>220408378The echi and pro-Japanese stuff alienates normies.
>>220411655The artstyle and the mecha stuff too
>>220411675the fucks wrong with mechs?
>>220411593for some reason people here who shill for legend of galactic heroes call that complex too, and in terms of characters, tactics, portrayal of warfare, that and code geass are about the same. it's a loop of>character has to look smart so other character does something completely retardedlgoh was more mature in its presentation and some of the themes it handled, true, but in the end, they're not that different in terms of complexity.code geass has some damn good fanservice going for it though, and if i'm looking to be entertained, that plays a large role
>>220411737>code geass has some damn good fanservice going for itLike what?
>>220411593There's a lot more shit to keep track of in Code Geass than in Death Note. If it had just been the one concept, that a guy can issue inviolable orders, without all the weird alternate history and politics and sci-fi technology, then it would be a lot more accessible.
>>220411758what do you think anon?
>>220411734It's more niche, it doesn't appeal to everybody and it also appeals more to men than women. Chicks generally do not give a shit about mecha.
>>220408378I remember some red bitch with huge tits i loved from this, i remember absolutely nothing else about the show despite sitting there as a retarded 10 year old watching this whole thing late at night every saturday
>>220411799I didn't watch it. What level of ecchi are we talking here?
>>220411806way higher than lgoh or death note, i'll tell you that much
>>220411837Death note didn't need ecchi fanservice and was compelling due to the plot, characters and writing.
Death note getting added to netflix as caused irreversible damage.
>>220411851i'm still not sure if people aren't baiting with the death note praise, so i'll refrain from commenting.
I love both shows. I don't know why this thread occasionally pops up on /tv/ pitting then against eachother.
>>220411758Bunny girl Kallen getting humbled by BBC
>>220411890forcing the rivalry must be some autist's pet project.
>>220408378Because Code Geass is one of the worst and overrated anime of all time. You have to be 80IQ, to actually think anything in this anime is "smart"
>>220411799>>220411894Ok this shit is lame, just like the artstyle. It looks like alt-universe Ouren Host Club.
>>220411977the EXACT same thing goes for deathnote as well thougheverbeit
>>220408378Go back to /a/
>>220412010You cannot be seriously comparing Code Geass writing to Death Note. You are actually retarded.
>>220412110both are incredibly stupid and juvenile at times. you can't be seriously praising death note's writing. from my point of view you're the one who's actually retarded. what's worse, you're a delusional retard.
>>220408378>Code Geass forgotten
>>220411890Zoomers have been hating on Code Geass ever since someone compared its ending to AoT
>>220412132Difference is Code Geass is stupid and juvenile at all times. Literally there is not a single piece of good writing in the anime, its Classroom of the Elite level shit, where they do something retarded but the low IQ audience will think anything is smart as long as it looks cool.
>>220408378because Death Note turned out to be memeable, code geass not so much
>>220411593It's complex for them because they have low IQ.
>>220412141Table-kun better take responsibility.
>>220412170Exactly
>>220412162what an extremely pathetic hill to die on, you go to bat and get into arguments defending this show's honor against a different show because SOMETIMES it's not shit. fucking retard, i can't believe i allowed you to waste my time.
Lelouch = Temu Char
>>220412267What the fuck are you even talking about
Death Note will never have thishttps://youtu.be/BTQcvDQb6LQ
>>220412285pussy ass zoomer response
>>220412327pussy ass zoomer response
>>220411593There are more characters having their own motivations and doing more stuff meaning there's more to keep track of. Light is pretty easy to read once you understand his principles while Lelouche's principles are more complicated and it makes him more difficult to predict thus making the show more complex.Intellectually Death Note is far ahead of CG, simply because Light is smarter than Lelouche, but in terms of characters and plot CG is more complex (not better, but more complex, big difference).
>>220412450Lelouch wanting to kill his dad is pretty early on.
>>220408378it wasnt
>>220408378Geass's fanservice is unbearably cringe no non-virgins. Death None, however, has semi-mainstream appeal, getting multiple live action adaptations.
>>220408378Mecha ain't liked. Over the top gay as fuck clamp designs probably make anyone who wasn't into this 20 years ago not interested.Both have a far weaker 'part 2'. First like 12~ episodes of R2 is fucking wasted, same can be said for post L IMO.Geass is OTT melodrama camp, there's no mindgames, it's lulu somehow geass'd 50 mooks off screen and they pull the plug on his enemy midfight, and this keeps happening.
>>220410048Just be good with head-in-sand, as is the movie timeline is a different continuity, given certain characters lived. I still stand by cart driver just being a cart driver for the TV timeline.
>>220411637They suddenly got given a second season mid production, those last 2 episodes came out like 6 months late. They had to alter course hard. Charles-instrumentality was always the plan and lulouch was always meant to usurp and sodoku himself.What I hate is how sunrise wanted to ease in new viewers (they thought they had a new gundam series to ape forever, and well, with the movie timeline I guess they got it) so there's a lot of rehashing and it went from a late night to like a 8pm timeslot. I imagine more about the cult/magic system got shafted for time.
>>220412768It never makes sense when second seasons start the lore dumps and characterization all over again. The first season still exists.
>>220408378Code Geass was and will always remain pure peak.
>>220408378because despite everything about him suggesting a proud and unapologetic homosexuality Lelouch never canonically fucks other guys. meanwhile Yagami and L can't stop shagging each other's shitboxes
>>220410923>i am not... le suprised>therefor... its is... le badit wraps things up very nicely and neatly.
>>220412160cg ending is WAY better than aot ending. its not even close. the only way they are comparable is "i became the enemy of the world, but i didnt really mean it", but cg ends it nicely and smartly, and eren is a fucking retard.
>>220408378Mid 00s emo chick's still shlick to L.
I remember when it came out and I never understood the hype for Code Gayass. The guys look like huge fags and the mechs are lame. I dropped it after 7 or so eps and watched Gaogaigar instead and it was fantastic. Same character designer but the guys are cool, the chicks are even hotter than CG and the giant robots are peak.
>>220408378orange is the name of my loyalty
>>220412270After The Origin and Gcucks I've come to hate the Char archetype.
>>220413153In 06.>doubtHow were you around in that era and not familiar with clamp? And they were at least, doing character designs for a new mecha.
>>220413153CG characters are designed for fujos
>>220413290I remember knowing Clamp for Cardcaptor and like Tsubasa Chronicles and xxxHoloc that I'd always see at my B&N but for some reason didn't learn CG was them until several years ago. It was just that show 4chan wouldn't stop hyping.>>220413297Yah I get that now.
i don't really think code geass is that forgotten, if you wanna talk about "forgotten".
>>220413404Hilarious, I kinda went the other way, used to enjoy clamp, but after TCR/xxxHolic I kinda fizzled out. I never read/watched clear card or the xxxHolic sequel thing.
>>220410565Eureka 7 is also cool, the surfing techniques were awesome sauce!
>>220413420Even more hilarious that it was planned as a 'anime that will get a VN', only part 1 of (who knows) said VN came out. Project utterly nuked.
>>220413420never heard of it, but most of the shows that i got started with have also been forgotten, except maybe black lagoon, i think people still remember that one.when i decided to dip my toes into anime i grabbed the only series on my local internet provider's FTP of pirated media (that's how it worked in my hometown, if you wanted to download outside of the FTP you had a serious traffic limit) and devoured them. they happened to be noir and wolf's rain, because i guess they were new releases at the time. it was crazy, i had never seen any cartoons like that before. so much work was put towards a kickass soundtrack and melodrama, it was the most mature shit i'd ever seen.
>>220413420Angel Beats! has an enthusiastic cult though, which if you ask me is better. (AND CALL ME "CHRIST"!).
>>220413486>wolf's rainBeen a long road to followBeen there and gone tomorrowWithout saying goodbye to yesterday...
>>220413486CANTA PER ME
>>220408378>forgottenIt's still one of the highest rated and most popular anime on MAL
>>220413715never even saw it but always assumed Code Geass was doing well because of the successor series
>>220413420Yeah this sed to be huge back then, it looked nice but the story was too rushed
>>220413486Wolf's Rain is one of the most fujo coded shows I've watched the entirety of. I haven't seen Noir but >Since their involvement with Noir, .hack//Sign, and Madlax (among other series) they have a strong following in the yuri fandom for being involved in series portraying strong female leads with speculatively ambiguous relationships.makes me lol you apparently watched two different flavors of gay shows by happenstance.
>>220413746>Wolf's Rain is one of the most fujo coded shows I've watched the entirety ofa "fujo" will seize on anything that supports the belief that male characters are gay. there's nothing in wolf's rain to justify that.
>>220413818Of course no ones actually gay not even fujos want that.Still though come the fuck on dude one of them looks like Hard Gay.
You wouldn't all elevens
>>220413994NO I wouldn't, I still need them for much of my media.
>>220408982Death Note doesn't have any plot holes. >but Light should have done this Light was a retard with an inflated ego.
>>220414227he could have killed L at literally any time, in any variety of ways, after seeing his face.
>>220414310Except he was a retard with an inflated ego.
>>220414327literally not an excuse since he killed L eventually anyway, and was scrambling to try and find a way to do it. the entire premise of the notebook itself is flawed because names are essentially meaningless.
>>220414310I'm not sure that he could've in any way that wouldn't have made him the presumptive suspect.
>>220414362It's name and a face.
>>220408378i dont watch cartoons, so i dont care
>>220414362>literally not an excuse since he killed L eventually anyway, and was scrambling to try and find a way to do it Yeah, except he is a retard with an inflated ego.
>>220414397>>220414393and after seeing him, he could have had L die at literally any time of his choosing in any way of his choosing. hell, he could have somebody else kill L as part of their final moments. he could have L's car blow up. he could have a powerline randomly detach and shock the car. he could have some rando delivery driver isekai L. he could have a plane crash into the building. it literally doesnt matter. >>220414413except the flaw isnt written as something light overlooked, its written as though he cant use the notebook on L without knowing his "true" name, which is fundamentally retarded WRITING, and nothing to do with the character himself.
>>220408378More Like Chode Gas LOL!
The only thing people remember about CG is C2 and her big butt
>>220414557You have to write a person's true name into the death note. A pseudonym doesn't count.
>>220414557I don't think any of those things would work.If you do then write precisely what Light would've written in the Death Note that would cause L to die.
>>220414557It's not a flaw with writing that the magic notebook doesn't work 100% logically like a computer. It would be a flaw if it wasn't consistent, but it is.
>>220414631"true names" dont exist. a name is something other people give you. arguably, the name by which you are most commonly known is your "true name", as it is most objectively your greatest identifier. a mother naming a child, then abandoning them to be raised in an orphanage under a different name and never knowing what their mother spoke to them as a baby is not a secret "true name". people that legally change their name dont have a secret "true name" that was their birth name before changing it. the very concept is retarded.and again, he could just have somebody else assassinate L, or have them die in such a way that L is collateral damage.
>>220408378>MechaNormies hate that genre >gay anime style Normies prefer more realistic one like deathnote Next question
>>220414719To reject the rules of a fantasy setting on the grounds that you don't understand them is pointless. In the world of Death Note clearly there is something which counts as a true name for the Death Note's purposes. It's not totally clear what determines this, but that doesn't matter.
>>220414719>but true names, death notes, shinigami, and souls don't exist in real life so it's a plot hole! A good demonstration of the IQ of a Death Note anti. >could just have somebody else assassinate L, or have them die in such a way that L is collateral damage Yeah he could have, except he is a retard with an inflated ego.
>>220414821it is a poorly written contrivance. >>220414864inflated ego, perhaps, but he is not written as a retard. he is written as well above average intelligence, and very meticulous. to miss something so blatantly obvious is incredibly poor writing. also>the main character is a retard, so its good actuallyis some pretty pathetic cope.
super fighting robot oh whoa oh whoa
>>220415014It's no contrivance. Your insistence that a pseudonym if used for arbitrarily commonly enough to count towards the magic would be a contrivance.
>>220415014>he is written as well above average intelligenceNo, he is written as a retard who thinks he's a genius.
>>220415131>Light is characterized as hardworking, talented, and a natural genius. Highly perceptive and good with problem-solving skills, Light is a skilled planner and good at mapping out scenarios. Furthermore, Light is very popular among his peers and adored by his family members. However, his high intelligence, academic achievements, and constant praise from adults laid the foundation for an innate hubris and arrogance that quickly escalated after he adopted the role of Kira. Light also struggled with a feeling of boredom that was quelled once he began using the notebook. you're coping >>220415124yes, it is a contrivance. the very concept of a "true name" is esoteric and retarded, and STILL, REGARDLESS, there are ways around it that an intelligent problem solver would have immediately deduced. it is a poorly written, contrived, and FAKE "limitation".
>>220409680I gave it a try and found it to be WILDLY cringe.
>>220410283Stick figures with fetal alcohol syndrome faces
>>220408982>Death Note appeals to midwitsUnlike Code Geass of course.
>>220408378Death Note is perfect self insert material. Light Yagami is a high school student who thinks he’s better than everyone else. One day he finds a weapon that can kill anyone without a trace. Every teenager wishes they had a Death Note to get rid of bullies and adults who pick on them.Code Geass is about an aristocrat fighting for Japanese autonomy. That’s not as universal as Death Note.
>>220413420Forgotten late 00s early 10s anime my favorite genre
>>220415299code geass is a lot more "just trust me bro" in how "smart" it is. realistically, its just more fun and cool. the "elaborate plans" are mostly "yeah i talked to these hundreds of people off screen and got them to do exactly what i wanted". its the general writing of how the events, characters, and factions interact and progress thats cool. yes it has some dumb/dull moments. it isnt perfect by any means. but its a WAY better story over all. deathnote is pretentious and foundationally flawed.
>>220415458SHOE
>>220413486I heard of noir from newtype usa dvd trailer. It had the mecha with wings on its head and a screaming mecha battling it out. Very cool but have no idea if it was an eva ripoff. The ending theme is lit.
>>220413682>>220413694hell yeah bros>>220413746wolf's rain was definitely very gay to the point it made me uncomfortable, but i don't remember noir giving me that vibe. iirc it was more like an older sister/younger sister vibe.>>22041640590% sure you're thinking of rahxephon
>>220410275Unironic kino
>>220412682I never watched the movie, should I? I consider R2 ending the kino canon ending
>>220408378>while Deathnote remains so lovedWhat world do you live in?
>>220414608It's not the only thing I remember but I do still remember it. It's just a very rare body type in anime. And the pizza hut fanservice>>220412167 You're just too young, it was very memeable when it was airing. It's like the /lost/ or /got/ of /a/.
>>220408378They're not similar at all. Very little of the appeal of either carries over the other. There's no expectation that Death Note remaining popular would do the same for Code Geass. Also mecha will never be what it is in Japan in the West. People don't dislike it in the West, Pacific Rim did well, there are western mecha fans, but it has some grip on Japanese psychology unparalleled over here.I think its a WW2 hangover. Its about a machine making it so that you have a body as grand and powerful as your will and your desire to win, you have a robot body that is proportional in power and presence to what you feel inside. In WW2 they wanted it bad enough, they were inspired enough, they were transcendent enough on the inside to win, and just didn't have the material necessities of victory. The will could not overcome the material with what was inside them, giving way to a fantasy of what was inside them controlling not just their own body, but a giant metal body worthy of it, a body that always has a chance of winning if they push hard enough and get lucky.
>>220411588I don't normally even have anime waifus but I still really liked CC, they just don't make girls that good and hot in anime anymore. Kallen I found annoying as usual but even she has her moments. I found Misa extremely annoying as well but Light also thought that, which made it a bit more bearable. I never watched CG past season 2. Should I?>>220412643It's funny, I have almost the opposite opinion.
>>220408378I wanted to like Code Geass.But just can't stand high school bullshit and fanservice.Also, rebooting the series midway through was a bizarre decision
>>220408378Code Geass is anti normie. Attack on titan miserably tried to copy it at the end