He would've won the war if not for his retard mother
>>220432225There wouldn't have even been a war if not for his retard mother
>>220432225>retard motherWhat? It was Robb's retarded decision to send Theon back to Pyke.If Theon doesn't go to Pyke, the Greyjoys doesn't take Winterfell.If Balon doesn't invade the North, Bran & Rickon aren't "killed".If Bran & Rickon aren't "killed", Robb doesn't fuck and marry Jeyne Westerling.If Robb doesn't lose the North, then Roose Bolton doesn't have a pretext to betray the Starks.If Robb doesn't marry Jeyne Westerling, then Walder Frey doesn't have a pretext to betray the Starks.
>>220432283If his mom didn't pull that shit with Tyrion everything would've been fine
>>220432225Would have won if he just kept the brown girl in a harem and married a Frey girl
>>220432225Seems like the made this guy the king on a fucking whim anyway... and then turned on him just as easily. I'm doing a rewatch and just got to season 4. There's so much shit that just doesn't make sense.
>>220432334dat ass tho
Robb's story arc sucked after S1 because all of his supporters left the camp. Theon was sent to Pyke, Rodrik was sent to Winterfell, and picrel was written outta the show. That just left us with the Boltons, Karstarks and Catelyn undermining Robb and making him look incompetent.
>>220432225you mean if not for his retarded self
>save your people>do annual charity beach games>marry a frey girl (as is your duty you little bitch)>hold record for most airtime at God's Eye Lake>have ungrateful nieces (sansa you arent a queen stfu lmao)>robb still has the gall to get mad at you in your own castlemy sister's kids are all retarded
>>220432501https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv0x_49PLDg
>>220432426at some point you realize that all northerners except for Starks are fucking retarded
Littles fingers entire meddling and masterplan relied solely on Katlyn being a stupid bitch
>>220432236this isn't talked about enough
>>220432225Imagine being cast as a Frey girl. Literally “ugly bachlorette” on your resume.
>>220432334simple as.
>>220433333checkedbetter than the ugly whore theon fucked on his way to the iron islands.
>>220432554KEK
>>220432571>at some point you realize that all northerners except for Starks are fucking retardedIt's kind of like Canada, except in Canada all the Starks moved south to the US for better weather and opportunities.
>>220433590take that joke back to the 1990s retarded boomer it belongs to.plus at this point it's just nogs and jeets rolling down hill to americans
>>220432426Even worse in S6, when Jon essentially lost the Battle of the Bastards by letting himself get drawn out and surrounded, and ultimately had to be bailed out by the Knights of the Vale, who he didn’t even know were coming (that Sansa didn’t tell him about…because reasons), and the northern lords immediately declare him King in the North.
>>220433677You’re swinging way out of your level, leaf. Canada is essentially being spitroasted by China and the US, and you’re trying to act superior? That’s precious.
>>220432490This nigga was based why didn't they keep him on the show?DA KING INNA NORF!
Boltons always had the mandate to the North. The Starks merely stole it.
>>220433771bot post
>>220432225Robb should have done what his father would have done. Side with Stannis. Robb actually wanted to do that initially, but then his retard bannermen started shouting their "KING IN THE NORTH" shit like imbeciles and ruined everything.If they tried to make Eddard Stark the King in the North instead of siding with Stannis he would have shut them down instantly.
>>220432225And if he kept his dick in his pants And if his father wasn’t overly trusting and didn’t go to Kings Landing to get himself killedAnd if he wasn’t a fucking retard and tried to get the Greyjoys that hate him on their side
>>220432490Should have sent Theon back with a War prize at the very least.'The armour I wear? Taken with Steel. It's the Golden armour worn by Jamie Lannister when we broke his army at whispering wood."
The show died right here in season 2, not later on.
>>220434596>wounded>high af>"by the old gods! i could not stop him from ravaging me over and over again! tee hee"so jeyne westerling is to blame for all of this...
>>220434675It's heavily implied that she was sent there to seduce Robb by her mother, on Tywin's orders, to sabotage his alliances with the Freys.
>>220433677Denying reality isn't going to save your country, leaf.
>>220432554>Every scene with him>Oh my days it's my boy Brutus >They do him dirty>At the end they totally humiliate himstill mad
>>220435840no denials were made retard. nor do I inherently care about saving canada. plus who are you kidding nigger, you're <25% white
>>220432225He was already losing by that time. Once the Lannister/Tyrell alliance was formed, he was fucked. Should have bended the knee to uncle Stannis.
>>220436641>bended
>>220432225Removing Theon from his side and marrying that girl killed him. He slighted the Freys, putting them in the Bolton's camp and he failed to understand the danger he was putting Theon in. Catlyn was a tard in her own right but she was not the author of Robb's fate.
>>220435970Why did they do it bros? He wasn't incompetent in the books, and the worst thing he did was because he was kept in the dark about shit and literally didn't know.
>>220436641Stannis sucked, for all the love he gets he couldn't even take aightly held King's Landing. If he was a commander worth a damn he would have just stormed the place casualties be damned. Bobby B was the only Baratheon worth a damn.>>220432225Probably, Cat was stupid
>>220432490What ultimately got Robb was these idiots naming him King in the Norf, cutting off his ability to form an alliance with the One True King Stannis Baratheon.
>IM SUPER HONORABLE>except for my marriage vows to the Freys>surely this won't fuck me overhe was a retard who got deluded by some random pussy
>>220432225The whole point of the series is that everyone does the most retarded things possible at any given moment to ensure no one wins and everything only gets worse
>>220432283>What? It was Robb's retarded decision to send Theon back to Pyke.to be fair, Theon not going back wouldn't have stopped Balon from invadinghe was already in the midst of doing it
>>220432236>>220433317because it isn't true, the Lannisters had already committed incest, plotted to kill the king, and had tried to murder Bran
>>220432236>>220433304This>>220437549And? There was no reason it couldn't have been water under the bridge. Littlefinger was 100% right when he told Ned Stark should repair relations with the Lannisters and knelled to Joffrey while raising/controlling him as King's Hand instead of doing anything retarded. Littlefinger went with Cerrsei when he realized the Starks were fucking morons who were allergic to survival
>>220432225The entire political framework of the 7 Kingdoms is entirely retarded.
>>220436747Really, the fault was Renly's ego. If he'd proclaimed Edric as Robert's Son and Heir and therefore King Edric Baratheon (and himself as his Hand), then he'd have gotten Stannis at his side rather then on his back. The Tyrells would also have come aboard (Margery can just as easily marry Edrick) and without a Baratheon division, the North and Riverlands would declare for Edric as well rather then raise up Robb. With Renly's full allied muster, Stannis as general and the Tyrells still on side, the Battle of the Blackwater goes to the Baratheons.
>>220432283You cannot held Rob responsible for Theon's daddy issue/completely stupid choices.>>220434124Stannis didn't want to side with him tho. He saw Robb as enemy of the Crown also and a rebel. You're probably mixing him with his brother who was far more eager to parlay with Cat.>>220434407The thing is he really didn't need to prove anything to his father. He was a seasoned warrior, skilled archer and horseman and fought in heat of battle with Robb's vanguard (at least in the book). He just let his daddy and insecurity get under his skin.
>>220437721This. For as much of an autist GRRM is, the setting is institutionally and legally sterile
>>220437745If Robb bent the knee and acknowledged Stannis as the rightful King of the Seven Kingdoms (Eddard Stark would have done this), Stannis wouldn't have had any problem with Robb maintaining his role as Lord of Winterfell and Warden of the North. He just wouldn't have let the North secede and seek independence (Eddard Stark wouldn't have asked for that).That's why I'm saying Robb should have done what his father would have done. Side with Stannis.
>>220437632>And?Treason, regicide and murder are at the very least as much contributing factors to causing a war as a lawful arrest is.Imagine being a fucking retard to trust Littlefinger who literally wants to destroy the Starks in revenge for getting cucked.
>>220434596love these, the comic sans is so fitting
>>220433304lmao he was meddling LONG before Cat visited King's Landing
>>220437769He can't even keep Lordly titles straight so he just keeps it to High Lords and Lords.
>>220437632by that logic there was no reason tywin had to keep sperging out in the riverlands after tyrion was released, it should have been water under the bridge
>>220437782Robert Baratheon did all of those things in his rebellion with Ned Stark as his accomplice. Also I apologize for writing that so poorly. Have no idea what came over me.
>>220437880Probably because the Riverlands were in open rebellion along with the North. With the Baratheon Kingdom also in revolt, 4 out of the 7 Kingdoms could have been in revolt against the Lannisters if only Cat's sister wasn't another cretinous fucking retard
>>220437903Robert contributed to "treason" against Aerys, but that was after Aerys had already violated the law and his role as Protector of the Realm and caused four kingdoms to rebel against him. Remember, Aerys ordered Robert and Ned to be murdered despite them having committed NO crimes. He never did regicide (that was the Lannisters, again) nor murder that I know of.And it's ok, anon. I mess up posts all the time.>>220437943The riverlands weren't in open rebellion, Tywin Lannister had attacked them and broken the king's peace (including attacking men riding under the king's banner). Again, the Lannisters were the ones that turned traitor. They were just able to pull off a palace coup and clean things up for a while (and now it's all falling apart anyway).
the tv series is slop, debating it is retarded and op is a fag
>>220437996True.
>>220432225many such cases
there's already a Game of Throne thread btw>>220421577>>220421577>>220421577
>>220437721How is it retarded? It's literally no different than what was going on in E*rope a 1000 years ago
>>220437531true, but they wouldn't have been able to pull off taking Winterfell without Theon's betrayal. They would have gone with Balon's original plan which was to take some strongholds long enough to get some raiding in and then retreat and go raid other parts of the North. It would have hurt but not completely crippled the North.They would still have to deal with the fact that Roose from the very beginning was plotting against Robb and appointing him second in command was a terrible idea. Roose was always using his position to weaken Robb's other vassals, particularly the most loyal ones, and increase his own position, as well as having Ramsay causing trouble in the North.
>>220432571That's mostly because Martin is incapable of writing realistic good/honorable characters
>>220438098Not even close
>>220437745>You cannot held Rob responsible for Theon's daddy issue/completely stupid choices.No, but you can hold Robb responsible for forgetting the purpose of a HOSTAGE. The whole reason Theon was fostered at Winterfell in the first place was to ensure Balon's good behavior.
>>220438370Balon didn't even like Theon.In fact there is no realy reason that the whole hostage thing should have worked on the Iron Men.
>>220438390True. Balon was already planning to go rogue even before Robb sent Theon back. He was willing to sacrifice Theon to get in more raiding once he saw the North was distracted with the war.
>>220437781As cool of a scene as it is, there was literally no benefit to the North seceding from the Seven Kingdoms when Robb did it. If they had just allied with Stannis or even Renly the war would have been over before it even started.
>>220438256Yes huh
>>220437721That's because it's the decaying remnants of an empire that was held together by a dynasty that wielded magical WMDs in the form of Dragons. Once the dragons died out, balkanization would be the inevitable fate of the seven kingdoms, but the series takes place in that transitional period where there's still a lot of inertia.Rembmer, Robert's Rebellion, the Greyjoy Rebellion, and the start of the WO5K all happened within Eddard Stark's lifetime. The Iron Throne is impossible to hold together, especially the completely different cultures of the North, the South, and Dorne.
>>220438523It's honestly remarkable Robert was able to hold it all together for 15 years considering how weak he was as a king.
>>220432441>2/10 mexican girl you can find in any Brown countryIs not worth your head
>>220432334>Brown girlI want showfaggots OUT
>>220434596>Large >Big>FatWhy ameritards have so manny names for a good ass?Being fat dosent give you an ass and and a good ass is not fat, is big and shaped.Also wtfk is a large ass??You all deserve nickers
>>220438637We're on /tv/, not /lit/
>>220438473Yea it was completely pointless, how much could they be possibly paying the crown in taxes that it was worth pissing every other king off and entering a war with everyone? Poor Robb did want to do what his father would have done at the start of the scene.
>>220438745Ned would have allied with Stannis and refused to be a king. It's wild that Robb goes along with it. Definitely a top 5 stupidest Robb moment and he has some bad ones.
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>>220438776He wasn't ready for the position of Lord of Winterfell and Warden of the North yet, he was too young and inexperienced and was easily swayed by his mother and his retarded bannermen. It was a stupid decision, but I'd first blame all of the experienced adults surrounding him giving him the shit advice.
>>220438098You're much too retarded to understand even if it was explained to you, asterisk f*ggot
>>220438583he was actually a pretty solid king
