>>220449982
So does he transform like wolverine or what and is the suit like the black suit peter wears serious answers only and has anyone seen this move?

>muh resource course
>but not norway or australia for some reason

The physical properties of vibranium enable technological capabilities which are much harder or impossible without it. It's not simply a matter of it being there and being valuable. Wakanda didn't get to where it is by selling vibranium to everywhere else

>>220450566
I still don't understand how vibranium gave them knowledge

>>220450566
That doesn't even make sense
Have good wood
>Can make good boats and houses
Have good metal
>Can make good tools and machinery
have vibranium
>Can make a bullshit ubermensch utopia in spite of traditionalist warrior tribal culture
The fuck is this having muh kangz cake and eating it too bs

>>220450566
The physical properties of uranium enable technological capabilities which are much harder or impossible without it. It's not simply a matter of it being there and being valuable. Kazkhstan didn't get to where it is by selling uranium to everywhere else

>>220449982
Isn't them being resource rich probably why they didn't develop? They didn't need to try. It's basic evolutionary theory

>>220449982
>we must reveal our perfect, secret utopia to the rest of world (despite living in the a war and disease ridden continent, objectively the worst place in the planet and a lost cause) and share our knowledge and technology because... because we just have to, okay?!
what an incredibly jewish movie, everytime i look back to it i see how disgusting it is, like the fact Killmonger righfully won the throne and the nigger T'challa and his gang decided to make a fucking coup and thats ok because hes the protagonist

>>220450613
Yeah how did isolation work out for pre-Meiji Japan?

>>220450600
This honestly
>Land had plenty of bounty
>Exploit the resources
>Exploit your fellow man
>Wtf what do you mean the English modernized the world in spite of frankly dogshit cuisine and limited land

It's called Vibranium because when African scientists first discovered it, they put it in their ass

>>220450600
>>220450631
the aboos in australia didnt have taxes, banks or supercars and they seemed to be alright before the white devils arrived

>>220450653
>and they seemed to be alright
by caveman standards

>>220450653
Aboriginals used to split their cocks in half with sharp rocks to make it look more like a pussy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penile_subincision

>>220450589
Kazakhstan's uranium was discovered and began to be mined when it was part of the Soviet Union, and thus yes, it exported most of it and still does.
There's no good real world comparison to Wakanda because, as far as we know, we've never had an asteroid drop a large amount of a uniquely useful substance in just one place on earth

>>220449982
Imagine if a local warlord hoarded all the resources and didn't use them to better the lives of his fellow people living next to them. While said people are being subject to atrocities, famine, and being taken advantage of.

>>220450683
The point I'm making is that resources themselves aren't useful until technological advancement has happened. Uranium is incredibly powerful but we didn't know it was until we had thousands of years of technological advancement. Africa was stuck thousands of years behind Europe until the 1800s.

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>>220450617
That's the thing
Japan for all intents and purposes had a bunch of war and didnt have the resources or freedom of innovation to become a fucking bullshit atlantis-esque technological utopia
Other than that isolation didn't seem to work at all because at the end of the day
>You can train all your life to become a master of the bow, spear, and sword
>But the gun is a lot like the crossbow in that it takes minimal martial skill by comparison so you can train a remarkably dangerous militia if you have the cash and foreign backing
Also
>Japanese obsession with immaculate celadon tea-ware

>>220450676
Unironically dilating lmao

>>220450676
you didnt have to share this...

>>220450698
Wakanda had presumably been at the same level of technology for thousands of years in current day. Humans were already catching up, that's the problem. Soon enough they would find themselves like 1800s Japan.

>>220450683
Not quite true, as meteorites were the only source of pure iron for exceptionallt rare iron tools
Even though it wasn't widespread ancient peoples still saw the use/value of those materials

>>220450576
Its a mutagen. Radiaion in the soil for millions of years enhancing all the food grown into giving superhuman capabilities

>>220450691
Vibranium shows its usefulness when you do something as basic and crude looking as just making a spear out of it, unlike a fissile material

>>220450729
Yeah okay the same fucking society with ritual combat had flying cars and shit though

>>220450736
Which is what exactly? That it makes for a better spear? Realistically they would've noticed it made good spears and never explored beyond that. Like how they started smelting thousands of years ago but stayed pretty much stagnant at that point while the rest of the world advanced.

>>220450617
>>220450698
Japanese isolation occurred during the Edo Period which was a period of prolonged peace, stability, and prosperity.

>The Edo period passed on a vital commercial sector in flourishing urban centers, a relatively well-educated elite, a sophisticated government bureaucracy, productive agriculture, a closely unified nation with highly developed financial and marketing systems, and a national infrastructure of roads. Economic development during the Tokugawa period included urbanization, increased shipping of commodities, a significant expansion of domestic and, initially, foreign commerce, and a diffusion of trade and handicraft industries. The construction trades flourished, along with banking facilities and merchant associations.

>By the mid-18th century, Edo had a population of more than one million, likely the biggest city in the world at the time.[56] Osaka and Kyoto each had more than 400,000 inhabitants. Many other castle towns grew as well. Osaka and Kyoto became busy trading and handicraft production centers, while Edo was the center for the supply of food and essential urban consumer goods. Around the year 1700, Japan was perhaps the most urbanized country in the world, at a rate of around 10–12%.[56]

265 years of peace, stability, and development is superior to most of the nations in world history. Half the countries of Europe only took their modern form in the late 19th century and are now on the verge of self-suicide.

Isolationism only lost because Europeans went through a freakish unprecedented level of economic and cultural development against which any policy would have failed. An outward-facing Japan would still have gotten owned but probably much earlier as Europeans would have found it easier to get a foothold in their politics.

>>220450734
It's fucking stupid
>Magical material is somehow your power source
>Your medical marvel
>And a bullshit op material that would make 40k nerds blush
Hack Writers like to entertain the idea of sci Fi but pull this shit time and time again

>>220450757
Are you really trying to imply that Japan wasn't far behind Europe before Meiji?

>>220450718
I had to do it. I'm sick of all the Aboriginal romanticism here.

>>220450771
>Aboriginal romanticism
Does that really exist? Honestly in America most people admit the Injuns were backwards compared to Europeans.

>>220450757
Considering outside influence was a contributing factor to the turmoil that was the warring states period im going to say you can't deny the value of outside influence in bringing about a unified Japan
Also contrary to Wakandas tribes that vie for power by ritual combat edo Japan was very much the opposite

>>220450781
>>220450771
Yeah that and the haka
I'm so sick of the diversity dance
>>220450767
On that note I don't know that anyone can argue Japan was ever technologically superior to anything until the 1970s at the earliest

>>220450767
Well, my excerpt shows that Japan was highly urbanized, with a complex economy, and an efficient bureaucracy. Also regarding their literacy:

>One estimate of literacy in Edo suggest that up to a fifth of males could read, along with a sixth of women.[56] Another estimate states that 40% of men and 10% of women by the end of the Edo period were literate.[70] According to another estimate, around 1800, almost 100% of the samurai class and about 50% to 60% of the chōnin (craftsmen and merchants) class and nōmin (peasants) class were literate.[71] Some historians partially credited Japan's relatively high literacy rates for its fast development after the Meiji Restoration.[62]

Which isn't dissimilar to the literacy rates in the best parts of Europe though there's some difficulty in comparing stats and a lot of guesswork is involved obviously.

Comparing Japan to Europe is the wrong move because what was happening in Europe, economically and ideologically, was anomalous in world history. Lots of other countries didn't have an isolationist policy and ended up much worse than Japan. That Japan had a solid base to build off of in the Meiji Restoration came from the fact that isolationism let them develop so successfully.

>>220450781
Imagine thinking yuros weren't backward savages saved by like a hundred of true geniuses over the span of two millenia

>>220449982
I love that Wakanda's first order of business was to keep regular black people out. Even they know.

>>220450885
I mean the Roman Empire was the most powerful force in ancient history so...

>>220450866
>I don't know that anyone can argue Japan was ever technologically superior to anything until the 1970s at the earliest
You're aware of the Russo-Japanese War, right?

>>220450884
Develop how?
Dog shit wood and steel limits their ability to industrialize so they were forced to develop almost purely administratively rather than technologically

>>220450884
>That Japan had a solid base to build off of in the Meiji Restoration came from the fact that isolationism let them develop so successfully.
Is it because of the isolationism, or because of the fact that their median citizen has a high IQ?
>Lots of other countries didn't have an isolationist policy and ended up much worse than Japan
Like?

>>220450921
I mean Russia has always had a laughingstock navy so I'm almost tempted to say it doesn't count

>>220450902
So powerful there was a whole continent next to them but they were to busy being killed by and killing backward savages on the smallest continent

>>220450946
>the smallest continent
Australia?

>>220450781
Yeah. People assume by default Aboriginals have a more 'spiritual' connection with the land and that anything bad they heard about them was propaganda. In schools they don't even teach the fact that Aboriginals warred with each other. All our public events now start with an Aboriginal person "welcoming" you (the audience) to "their" country. For which they're paid several thousand dollars each time.

>>220450866
New Zealand is more cucked but only because Maori are semi competent and not totally inbred.

>>220450954
That and ill never understand this bizarre notion that native americans weren't occasional cannibalistic freaks
>Oh tee hee they only practiced ritual scalping of enemies after the white man went too far
>Karankawas totally didn't consume the brains of their foes
>Tribal natives ate berries and held hands and shit
Fuck that

>>220450931
Maybe high IQ people tend towards isolationist models of society? The Chinese also went through a prolonged isolationist phase.

>Like?
The various Indian states were outward looking and asked Britain for protection from their neighbors, giving up power and eventually sovereignty to do so. Much of British India was built through clearly signing deals and exploiting conflicts within the subcontinent to their advantage.

>>220450925
To be fair, technological development was pretty slow up until industrialization. When we talk about European development, at least a large portion of that should be founding the intellectual traditions that enabled raped progress later.

>>220450953
Fun fact Abbos made it all the way to India yet yuros couldn't make it to the philippines

Sailing to hard

>>220451014
>Maybe high IQ people tend towards isolationist models of society?
But Europe was never really isolationist.
>India
lol

>>220449982
It's only Wakanda in Marvel, rest of Africa is the same as in real world, lol.

>>220451026
Literally what are you talking about
The Philippines and Europe are on opposite sides of the world

>>220449982
what makes blacks so smart and powerful bros?

>>220451050
big penis = big brain

In the comics it was better because black panther didn't want to share his technology with the other dumb Africans. Kind of the same thing Europe di with the Balkan Europeans.

>>220450576
>I still don't understand how vibranium gave them knowledge
It didn't but it's basically a cheat mineral that improves everything and does anything.

It makes the land incredibly fertile which makes farming easier. It acts as a cheap clean source of power. it acts as an alloy that basically does everything you want it to do because it's magic. You basically can speed run through every age. You're stone age is basically the nuclear age+.
All the crazy things other cultures needed to invent or discover, from smelting bronze to making a transistor you basically just get to skip over because you have a magic metal that does it all right out of the box.

>>220451036
The US was famously isolationist prior to WW2 and that was back when it was 90% European.
There are also increasing isolationist movements in Europe today.
I think it's more that whatever latent tendency towards isolationism existed in the past was offset by the necessity and profitability of imperialism.

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>>220449982

Imagine having such shit culture you need jews to invent one for you.

>>220451084
>The US was famously isolationist prior to WW2
Ahahahaha you sweet summer child

>>220451103
that explains a lot of countries in the world

>>220451047
Of course and australia and asia are in the same hemisphere how silly of me to think the earth is as far away vertically as it is horizontally

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>>220450995
They were so violent that their lives are simply unimaginable. For comparison, the most violent country in the world today has a homicide rate of about 70 per 100,000 people.

>>220451127
What the fuck are you talking about

>>220451136
Abbos were better navigators than european people, they are if they originally came from africa, they are if they sailed to asia and explored the pacific islands

>>220451073
>you can speed run through every age
Given that Africans were stuck in between the stone and iron ages for like 3,000 years, what does that mean? Africa didn't progress through technology like the rest of the world did. It kind of just stopped.

>>220451157
>Abbos were better navigators than european people
By what metric? Europe is mostly a dead end without medieval technology. You can jump from island to island in the Pacific. Aboriginals arrived from Indonesia. You can't do that in the Atlantic to get to America.

>>220451157
The Aboriginal settlement of Australia happened through island hopping and land bridges from Melanesia. When the sea levels rose about 20,000 years ago, they were stranded with no way to leave. You don't have to be a good navigator to do that.

>>220451211
>>220451236
Magically connected islands or sheer navigation?

What would a racist say now that all their worldview could crumble with any evidence of polynesian navigation?

Talk about the fbi crime statistics that always works

>>220450529
They eat some some magical flower and it gives them all enhanced human stuff, strength, speed etc. The suit was basically like armour/symbol

>>220451271
>leftists are now denying the fact that there are more islands in the Pacific

>>220451271
The Pacific has a lot more islands than the Atlantic because it is more geologically active. Nothing magical about it

>>220450781
It does. Though I think it's wearing thin with people considering some recent events in their communities that have been making headlines.

>>220450866
>Yeah that and the haka
>I'm so sick of the diversity dance
You see the news about what happened in NZ with a haka dance? Apparently the Maori are getting extremely racist against Indians and it's got diversity loving people mixed up since they don't know which minority to side with now.

>>220451271
You know Polynesians and abos are different, right?

>>220451084
>The US was famously isolationist prior to WW2
not really. WW1, Spanish American War, and probably a bunch of stuff that's not very well known.

>>220451322
>>220451335
Look anon am done being pedantic

Yuros have problems going to britain and is right there, rome lost entire floats worth of ship trying to cross the mediterraneum and is just a sea, crossing the pacific to make it as far as Hawai or Easter Island is just beyond their capacity

They weren't the greatest sailors they make great statues of naked men I give them that very accurate penises, aboriginal art always makes them huge, I don't know why

>>220451374
>crossing the pacific to make it as far as Hawai or Easter Island is just beyond their capacity
We have literally no way of knowing, given that the Atlantic has far fewer islands and Europe was across the world from the Pacific. I will remind you that Polynesians arrived in Hawaii in about 1200, and in New Zealand around 1300. Europeans would arrive just a few centuries later, with far more advanced technology.

>>220451374
you're a total idiot, but at least your posts are funny

>>220451271
I said in an earlier post the Maori are somewhat competent. They objectively did do very cool shit. They even defeated the British in some battles. Abos on the other hand...

>>220451402
I want to know what archeological evidence you found on that tiny island, that survived a population reusing everything they had, for hundreds of years to prove that they factually arrived on 1200 not a century of difference exactly at 1200 we found this (insert solid material evidence here)

>>220451420
Thanks, am a boring scholar the material is funny

>>220449982
why didnt they use their power and knowledge to stop slavery tho?

>>220451432
I never said they arrived exactly in the year 1200 you mongoloid it's an estimate and completely besides the point. Polynesians explored the Pacific slowly and it took them generations to reach all the big islands. James Cook did it all in one go. In the 1700s Europeans were superior sailors than Polynesians. Were they in medieval times, when Polynesians were exploring the pacific for the first time? Well we don't have direct evidence, but they probably were based off maritime technology.

>>220451459
I want evidence for all this shit anon, unlike you apparently

>>220451465
Evidence for James Cook discovering the Pacific islands?

>>220451475
Anything about how they got to those islands what things they did there even if they are boring, the best evidence for some of them are simple clamshells, in some places they were eating and piling clamshells and by dating them they know how far the human settlements go, the more I get is "an educated guess" by experts that brush it aside, like travelling the entire world before anyone else and having the brown people to prove it is not enough to tell a tale of brown supremacy

>>220449982
Russia is resource-rich.

>>220451500
The pacific islands are the "entire world"? News to me.
>Anything about how they got to those islands what things they did there even if they are boring
Who? Europeans or Polynesians?

>>220451531
It's also top 50 GDP per capita in the world, its cities are safe and clean, it has mass industry, and...
let's not talk about the war

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It might be one of the most disappointing movies I've ever seen. I actually loved Civil War, and Black Panther was definitely one of the highlights of it. They just butchered his character here.

>>220451534
Europeans aren't boring, thyey have as many massacres genocides and city burning to last you a lifetime

You know what I think the world was?

I think whites made an ethnostate on europe and simply concentrated there, the huns and white siberians raided europe and settled there, the white africans and the white americans, meanwhile the brown people explored the world settled everywhere and sold all white people they found as slaves in europe in true phoenecian fashion

>>220451374
Sounds like you are mad at eurodaddies.

>>220451606
Okay yeah so you're just a schizo

>>220451622
They taught me history wrong and it caused my civilization to crumble in self pity

They get better though

>>220451639
Whatever you need anon