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>noo you aren't supposed to idolize the rich, attractive and succesful man who does whatever he wants and gets all the hot women you're missing the point
Why are foids like this?
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>>220451121
jewish psyop to keep us comonfolx poor and retarded
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>>220451121
Is there anything to your political ideology besides murder anon?

Anything?

Or just the hedonistic need to murder the competition?
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>>220451143
politics is for nerds
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>>220451121
>in the book he meets the only girl that ever dumped him in a restaurant and he shouts a poem about killing a “nigger” and then he takes her back to his apartment and murders her and fucks her eye sockets
The book is 100x nastier than the movie and it was a missed opportunity.
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>Rich people get bored and insecure over winning life and feel the need to indulge in degeneracy
Just like real life
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>>220451178
Just murder, we get it
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Women refuse to take responsibility for literally anything.

A fit buff dude in a movie?
>no the female gaze doesn't exist, this is actually for men!! We totally hate great looking men trust us!!! This is just a male power fantasy and you're actually gay!!
Just look at how they always blame men for their misandry. Misogyny is comparably honest. Bus misandry always tries to blame men, because "women would never!"

Point is: as soon as you realise that all women do, is try to ruin men, you realise why they do what they do.
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>>220451121
>successful
He was roleplaying, he wasn't even the top dog in his section.
>rich
His peers were richer than him. He couldn't even get a reservation at Dorsia.
>does whatever he wants
And cried about it, which was his most attractive moment...
>gets all the hot women
He was more titilated when chasing and killing them, it was almost asexual despite him actually fucking them.
If you want to idolize him though, do it right... Feel like an outcast and that no one understands you. And do a beautiful amount of skincare as well. And appreciate legends like Whitney Houston. I don't think you can do any of that.
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>>220451121
>gets all the hot women

He pays prostitutes. I say you standards for success in life are generally lacking if that fictional guy is your Idol.
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>>220451499
>He was roleplaying, he wasn't even the top dog in his section.
>His peers were richer than him. He couldn't even get a reservation at Dorsia.
Literally wealthy and a penthouse apartment. Just because he's not the richest man alive doesn't mean he's not successful or rich.
>And cried about it, which was his most attractive moment...
Cherry picking isn't an argument. He still literally did what he wanted most of the time.
>He was more titilated when chasing and killing them, it was almost asexual
Bros, is it asexual to have sex with women???
Your retardation aside, the book tells that he's had plenty more women than the ones just talked about in the book.

I don't know why some of you are so afraid of successful men, you need to somehow subvert it at all costs...
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>>220451499
>he's not rich and successful because even richer and more successful people exist
You are fucking stupid.
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>>220451549
It's pretty asexual to be more interested in checking your glistening muscles out and then killing the prostitutes afterwards, yes. That's not real sex anymore, that's a serial killer fetish thing. Wealth is also not a trait exclusive to Patrick Bateman, and a major contention in the movie and within himself is that Paul Allen is richer than him and had a sexier card.
But your glossing over the things Patrick Bateman enjoys doing clues me in to how you're not about this idolization life. You'd be better off idolizing daddy doms in romanceslop books.
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>>220451549
>successful

Did you watch the film? He was a fucking nepo-baby, absolutely nothing he owns is due to his own ability.
You give off serious brown-vibes.
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>>220451121
the murder is allegory
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>>220451451
>implying women claim the "female gaze" as you mean it doesn't exist
>implying "gaze" without power means something
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>>220451121
It's literally supposed to be a character piece of a vain pathetic guy that fantasize half the shit you are seeing and you guys think he's supposed to be cool
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>>220451577
Kinkshaming isn't cool, you know...
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>>220451121
>stockings + those heels
peak sex
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>>220451121
>gets all the hot women
You mean prostitutes
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>make a movie about a cool succesful attractive criminal and present him continuously as a cool succesful attractive criminal
>"umm you weren't supposed to want to be like him you know that's not the point..."
Many such cases.
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>>220451948
>present him continuously as a cool succesful attractive criminal
He was attractive but how was he successful? He failed his goals, no one even paid attention to him enough to remember his name for fucks sake. And this board keeps memoryholing the scene where he cried in desperation. He was quite a petulant man when things did not go his way, visibly sweating and shaking.
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>>220451121
He’s objectively a loser though.
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Media like this will never get its point across to zoomers because it's supposed to show you that this fit handsome rich slayer is miserable but zoomers are none of that and already miserable. At least they could be miserable and be hot as fuck have a cool life and a big apartment in the city where they fuck hot chicks all the time. It's out of touch.
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>>220451121
83 IQ
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>>220451738
Yeah exactly, I don't get why people idolised this dude. You can cope with the whole "I pay them to leave" all you want but if you can't pull regular bitches regularly (and I do mean regular, ones with brains) then you ain't king of shit.
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>>220451143
>Or just the hedonistic need to murder the competition?

bruh you are totally misunderstanding…

hedonism means acting on impulse and taking whatever you want for pleasure. average virgin has the opposite problem, they are terrified of pleasure and experience.

nerd don’t fantasize about violence to get sadistic pleasure they do it to get release from anxiety.

in the power fantasy a nerd will be free of feeling insecure and small and powerless.

they’re not looking for the worlds most powerful machine gun, they want the world best body armor.
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>>220451983
doesn't matter, had sex with sexy broads.
The instruction given is usually vague like "have sex" i'm not sure why they get upset when men do the correct thing and add "high standards" on top.
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>>220451121
>>220451121
Bruh... that was not the point. Despite his success in life, he was a miserable psychopath.
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>>220452499
Yeah well I wouldn't be.
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>>220452536
So why are you idolizing the miserable mentally ill skinwalker and not someone else?
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>>220452581
Patrick Bateman, Jordan Belfort, Tony Montana, Tyler Durden. I idolize them all, simple as.
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>>220452685
Shut up Rahjid
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This movie was too violent for me. I don't mind violence in a film if it serves a purpose, like in a war or gangster movie, but this was murder after graphic murder to titillate and sexually excite the viewer because some coked up faggot wrote about it in a book back in the 80s. No thanks. I'm not that kind of person.
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>>220451121
Indeed, you aren't meant to idolize the mentally ill potentially murderer narcissist.
Is this somehow shocking to you? Can you not find better people to look up to? Ones that are moral and not perturbed?
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>>220452799
Bruh he has abs tho
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>>220451577
>Its pretty asexual to be more interested in checking your glistening muscles out and then killing the prostitutes afterwards, yes
You neither know what asexuality means, nor did you ever had sex in your own life. As is painfully apparent
>idolisation
You're the only one making this point. And you can't even win an argument you made up in your head...
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>>220451451
>Women refuse to take responsibility for literally anything.
case in point:>>220451611
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Cope desu
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>>220452799
>umm why wouldn't you rather emulate meek virgin simps that no woman would consider attractive
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>>220451577
>checking yourself out in a mirror during sex is asexual
>killing a whore after sex you bought her for is asexual
You must be a woman thinking that pussy is so good a man would forget himself fucking it. Spoiler: it ain't.
You fucked one, you fucked them all.
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>>220452799
>Can you not find better people to look up to? Ones that are moral and not perturbed?
Moral men get taken advantage of.
Mentally ill potentially murderer narcissists get women drooling over them and are respected by other men.
The choice is simple.
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>>220453014
Bro, read the OP. And sex is for procreation. He is not interested in that and clearly showed more ecstasy while murdering people.
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>>220453059
If pussy is so mid why do you want a woman? You sound gay and or asexual. Or, on antidepressants or estrogen pills. Lots of reasons to dislike sex with a woman.
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>>220453072
>And sex is for procreation.
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>>220451973
So let's recap:
He's not successful because he's not the richest guy at his company and some people don't remember his name.
And he's pathetic because he has emotions.

What you're describing is just a normal guy.

Women, everybody. And you wonder whyen are turning on you.
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>>220453072
>And sex is for procreation
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Women are scared to death of men who have to make an effort to seem attractive to them.
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>>220453083
Bros is it gay to fuck women?
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>>220453057
who are you quoting?
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>idolize
Nobody ever idolized Patrick Bateman.

Idiots from Reddit thought people idolize him, based purely on Batemen memes. Because redditors are too stupid to tell the difference between memes and idolization.
But thanks to them crying over supposed idolization, we now got people asking "well why not?"

It's a fucking self fulfilling prophecy, helmed by reddit retardation.
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>>220453066
So you choose to be evil. Can't think of a bigger sign of weakness.
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>>220453091
>He's not successful
Yes.
>>220453128
Half this thread thinks so. 4chan men want sex, but don't like women or many aspects of women especially the pussy, instead dedicating their days salivating over the ideal man, which makes sense why tranny stuff is so rampant. It's like the parts of a man they like (male interests, male brain) mixed with the parts of a woman they like (tits, hair)
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>>220453072
I've checked my muscles in a mirror before during sex. When I say muscles, I mean my skinnyfat body. In a "hell yea look at you" kind of way, because it was a fun night and I was happy.

It's a completely normal thing. You wouldn't know because you never had sex, and hate looking at yourself.
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>>220453212
>Half this thread thinks so. 4chan men want sex, but don't like women or many aspects of women especially the pussy, instead dedicating their days salivating over the ideal man, which makes sense why tranny stuff is so rampant. It's like the parts of a man they like (male interests, male brain) mixed with the parts of a woman they like (tits, hair)
This is a masterclass of absolutism and derangement syndrome. You don't have the emotional maturity to be on 4chan.
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>>220453213
Except Bateman is not simply checking himself out, he is obsessed with his physical appearance and appears much more focused when he does so, compared to the sex. It's so plainly stated that he views sex as one of the several social status markers he strives for. He is not having sex for pleasure, let alone recreation. He has that gf he parades around despite also fucking hookers. His entire life is a performance for other men and society as a whole, until he snaps and murders. Or do you think Bateman was thinking "yes, score, I am happy to fuck this random whore off the street"
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>>220453091
>noooo you can't be rich and handsome and have a good body and fuck women
>he was pathetic and the book was written by a gay and movie directed by a woman you're supposed to hate this reeeeee
basically all arguments itt
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>>220453273
The movie wants you to think he's pathetic, or do you find it noble and manly for a guy to pretend to be another guy who's so much more well liked than he is?
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>>220453207
Methods don't matter. What matters is getting what you want.
Nobody cares if the loser was noble if he still turned out a loser.
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>>220453261
>Except Bateman is not simply checking himself out, he is obsessed with his physical appearance and appears much more focused when he does so, compared to the sex.
As is natural when you're that fit. You wanna see the fruit of your labour. And what's a better situation then to look at it during sex, the ultimate status reward for a "good body".
>He is not having sex for pleasure, let alone recreation.
Wait until you find out that most people just fuck out of boredom and social pressure. You've never had sex.
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>>220453295
Read the post you replied to again.
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>>220453261
>he views sex as one of the several social status markers he strives for
I'm sorry to tell you this, but that's 99% of people.
People like to parade their relationship to show they're not failures, specially if their gf/bf is attractive.
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>>220453328
Doesn't refute anything I said. Am I the only one who watched American Psycho?
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>>220453354
>Doesn't refute anything I said. Am I the only one who watched American Psycho?
Apparently you're too full of yourself to see the actual point of the post, which wasn't to dispute what the movie wants, but that it doesn't matter in regard to the things people consider successful and worth achieving.

You're too stupid to see that nobody gives fuck about Ellis' critique of yuppie life, when that life in general is still the peak success you can have in our society.
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>>220453404
Sure, striving for the approval of the Paul Allens of the world is the peak success. Idolize him.
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>>220453468
Again, you're too retarded and too entrenched in your idea of "idolization" to see straight.

Accepting the height of success in our society, is not the same as idolization.
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>>220453468
You couldn't sound more like a commie redditor of you actually tried. I bet you use the term boot licker unironically
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>>220451121
>idolize other men
>don't understand "foids"
Tell me you're a faggot without telling me you're a faggot.
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>>220453404
>You're too stupid to see that nobody gives fuck about Ellis' critique of yuppie life, when that life in general is still the peak success you can have in our society.
It's even funnier considering that American Psycho is nothing but a personal grief novel about a life that Ellis pursued himself.

He literally couldn't make it, and then wrote this novel to get it out of his system.
If you think about it it's basically just the coping mechanisms of a loser who couldn't actually make it.

Imagine a book written about Formula 1 drivers being all shallow morons, written by a guy who tried to be an F1 driver but failed.
And then you get useful idiots like this guy: >>220453468 who just eat it up like gospel, because he himself is also not a successful F1 driver.
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>>220453511
Post tits, darling.
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>>220451121
in the story, Bateman is a completely burnt up miserable lunatic who is incapable of experiencing genuine intimacy, happiness or even an authentic feeling of self
It's a shit way to live
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>>220451499
By your logic the fourth place in the Olympic 100m sprint is slow since his peers were faster than him.
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>>220451178
This so much. What's the point? Elites don't care about sides, there is just power
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>>220451121
he's fucking whores though, anyone can do that
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>>220451121
>gets all the hot women
Anon those were prostitutes. The only women Bateman sleeps with are women he pays to sleep with him. You don't have to be as handsome and fit as Christian Bale to hire prostitutes.
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>>220451121
Correct. But maybe is too deep for that little self centered, hedonist brain of yours. Go back to looksmaxxing and aura farming little zoomer.
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>>220451121
Did your brain turn off during the ending?
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>>220451611
>”without power”
Lefty faggots turning everything into power dynamics has been the gayest turn for discourse in my life. It just muddles every single conversation into some sort of boring conversation about power.
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>>220460686
Wow almost like that's their intention.
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>>220451121
Casting Bale with the sickest male body ever put to film made Bateman look a lot cooler than he would if it was a regular dude. In the book he's a massive autist and his "friends" make fun of him all the time.
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>tfw bale was in his mid 20s in the movie and you thought he looked old but now you're older than him
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>>220453212
>4chan men
2016 election tourists who worship right wing daddies and dream about tranny penis aren't "4chan men", they're just a bunch of utter subhumans who got lost on their way to tiktok and facebook.
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>>220451948
they were master bateing (heh) you into wanting to be like him while not understanding that being a rich pussy slaying prostitute killing psychopath with a cool business card is actually bad
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>>220452424
You base your self worth on female validation because you're pussy whipped. You just don't get it. You get lifelong trauma from every bitch that leaves you on seen.



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