jon will be nissa nissa edition
>>220454063HOW COULD YOU GIVE YOUR OWN WIFE THE OL’ SPICY SWORD AZOR AHAI? AAAAGGHH
Tywin haters are all leftwing faggots or christcucks.
>>220454100How do you know, maybe he's just saying what he thinks people need to hear from him, like his stance on prostitutes
A blonde haired vain dishonorable westerman was teaching a class on Tywin Lannister, known whoremonger”Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and declare a lion does not concern himself with the opinions of sheep!"At this moment, a brave, patriotic, pro-trout riverlands champion who had cut down 1500 westermen during the Fish Feed and understood the necessity of Oxcross and fully supported all military decision made by the the lord of Riverrun stood and held up Tyrion.”How important is this dwarf, oathbreaker?”The arrogant westerman smirked quite Lannisterly and smugly replied “it's an ill-made creature full of low cunning, you stupid riverman.””Wrong. It’s a Lannister of Casterly Rock. If it was ill-made and, as you say, the lion doesn't concern himself with the opinions of the sheep… then it should been carried into the sea!”The westerman was visibly shaken, and dropped his quill and copy of Hear Me Roar. He stormed out of the chamber crying those blonde crocodile tears. The same tears westermen cry for dead King Joffrey when they jealously try to claw justly earned thrones from the deserving houses. There is no doubt that at this point our westerman, Tyrone Lanster, wished he had spent his years serving the realm as an actual knight. He wished so much that he had wildfire to kill himself from embarrassment, but it had all been used by Tyrion to try to fight Stannis!The present noblemen applauded and all swore fealty to House Stark that day and accepted King Robb as king of the Trident. A fish named “Chadmure” flopped into the room and perched atop the Tully banner and shed a tear on the parchment. "Wolf in the Night" was sung several times, and the Blackfish himself showed up and hung Lannister outriders across the country.The westerman lost his tenure and fled to Valyria. He died in the Smoking Sea and was tossed into the Seven hells for all eternity.Family. Duty. Honor.
>>220454100>rootless gaytheist gets defensive about slopTypical
>>220454100Tywin is a retard and teenagers run circles around him.
>Good morning Aenon.>How may your king be of service?
>>220454788the actor is so good i genuinely feel bad he gets fucked over
>>220454580What is the appeal of Tullys?
A bear there was, a bear, a bear!All black and brown, and covered with hair.The bear! The bear!Oh come they said, oh come to the fair!The fair? Said he, but I'm a bear!All black and brown, and covered with hair!And down the road from here to there.From here! To there!Three boys, a goat and a dancing bear!They danced and spun, all the way to the fair!The fair! The fair!Oh, sweet she was, and pure and fair!The maid with honey in her hair!Her hair! Her hair!The maid with honey in her hair!The bear smelled the scent on the summer air.The bear! The bear!All black and brown and covered with hair!He smelled the scent on the summer air!He sniffed and roared and smelled it there!Honey on the summer air!Oh, I'm a maid, and I'm pure and fair!I'll never dance with a hairy bear!A bear! A bear!I'll never dance with a hairy bear!The bear, the bear!Lifted her high into the air!The bear! The bear!I called for a knight, but you're a bear!A bear, a bear!All black and brown and covered with hairShe kicked and wailed, the maid so fair,But he licked the honey from her hair.Her hair! Her hair!He licked the honey from her hair!Then she sighed and squealed and kicked the air!My bear! She sang. My bear so fair!And off they went, from here to there,The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair
"And who are you?" The proud Lord said"That I must bow so low"Only a cat of a different coatThat's all the truth I knowIn a coat of gold or a coat of redA lion still has clawsMine are long and sharp, my lordAs long and sharp as yoursAnd so he spoke, and so he spokeThat Lord of CastamereBut now the rains weep o'er his hallAnd not a soul to hear"And who are you?" The proud Lord said"That I must bow so low"Only a cat of a different coatThat's all the truth I knowAnd so he spoke, and so he spokeThat Lord of CastamereBut now the rains weep o'er his hallAnd not a soul to hearAnd so he spoke, and so he spokeThat Lord of CastamereBut now the rains weep o'er his hallAnd not a soul to hearand so he spoke(That Lord of Castamere) Lord of Castamere(But now the rains) weep o'er his hall(And not a soul to hear)And not a soul to hear
>>220455078>All black and brown>polar bearit's like a netflix show and the book it's based on
>emoji
>>220455110"And why would I,"The Agent asked,"Bow down before thy size?Your masterplan is not so good,I have seen bigger guys,If I were to remove your mask,My care for you'd be none.I'm CIA,And Pavel's mine.You're captured,You are done."And so he spoke,And so he spoke,The man from CIA,The plane has crashed,In halves it broke,Survivors there were nay.Survivors there were nay...
>>220454063TAOOBA!
>>220455624
Imagine wanting a fat washed-up whore to be your queen.Couldn't be me.
>>220455181screaming
>>220456259both alicent actresses mog the rhaenyra actresses anyway
This is the last thread. See you when hotd 3 starts.
the saddest part about books never coming out is we'll never know how their romance would really unfold and we'll never get to see dany having a normal relationship with someone her age
>>220457621>normal relationshipkek
>>220457524Surely we can endure 1 more month, in the name of the one true king Aegon.
>”I see George, so dany is azor ahai and will save everyone, very nice”>*george leaves room* >”lmfao we’re not doing that shit, let’s make her go mad and kill her as a prank” There are people out there to this day that think this really happened
>>220457989Dany will do evil shit in the books and get killed, but it won't be as comically cartoony as the showFor starters, the seeds for her downfall are already in the book: Aegon is going to marry Arianne Martell and take the throne, creating an obvious conflict with Dany.That said I cathegorically refuse to believe Arya will kill the night king, that's just stupid, George did NOT write that and if he did woe be upon him
Dunk the Lunk, thick as a castle wall, spared no expenses
>>220457517It's a shame they didn't do book-accurate Hightower hair.
This will make season 3 worth ithttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/7l1xKLQL0hI
>>220458740i will now bend the knee to the greens...
>>220458036>That said I cathegorically refuse to believe Arya will kill the night king, that's just stupid, George did NOT write that and if he did woe be upon himSomeone will have to kill the Final Boss like a video game, with all the Others and their zombies just collapsing into a pile of snow. It's the only way to defeat them as they're simply too powerful.
>>220458036I think what's really going to break her is her discovering she's not Targaryen but some random Dragonseed.Two things point to it:>She's called STORMBORN, and the reason for the nickname is retarded. Nobody else in the setting got their nickname due to the circumstances of their birth. She got hers because she's from the STORMLANDS.>There is no reason to think Aegon is fake. Varys reveals this information while in a 1 on 1 conversation with a man he's about to kill. GRRM set it up in such a way he has ZERO reasons to lie.
>>220458740this nigga got insane aura for a burnt cripple. rhaenyra could never
Did George finish winds yet
is this general a green or black one?
>>220454063egg is icsh
>>220458996What would you have her do?
>>220459028We respect Blacks and follow our Queen, Rhaenyra, here.It's her turn.
>>220459028or
>>220459028It's a PRINCE REGENT loyalist general
>>220455023>What is the appeal of Tullys?
>maize (corn) exists canonically in Westeros>there could be Dornish maidens making tortillas and tamales no wonder targshits wanted to conquer Dorne so badly
>>220458740The realm’s delight
>>220458036sure they are aunt and nephew but considering her previous lovers were drogo and daario it will be as normal as george can do
>>220458740muh king
>>220457989actually the original plot had dany being pregnant and dying at childbirth after the long nightD&D just got mad with people figuring out the plot twists and the whole plot leaking just before they finished recording so they changed it at last moment to the mad queen rushed plot
>>220457989>dany is azor ahailmao
>*teaches your kids some Dornish*
>>220460558Does this mean there is a lot of alternative footage somewhere in the vaults of HBO?
>>220460558>mother of dragons gets a Mother’s Day card Proves nothing
What if Stannis and Daenerys had been married?
>>220458062Book doesnt say the color of their hair. Its theoried to be silver like the danes mostly because it makes them a first men bloodline and makes it plausable they manage to create a hightower/targ hybrid and pass it off as this own in Alicent in the books.
he was right
>>220461489Danes?
>>220458062True. We know they have silver/gold hair from Lynesse, Alerie, and hell Alicent is mistaken for Saera Targaryen.But the show also made Rhaenys a mophead so the audience wouldn't get confused, so any chance of accurate hair for the Hightowers was never going to happen.
>>220458924They have access to some kind of coprrupted weirwoods in the north. Essentially frozen versions. Could cleanse or destroy those severing their power. Also there is the idea that Jon is promised to them as in the prince that was promised. And that his blood will allow him to die and enter the trees with them healing whatever was broken to cause the first long night and putting them to rest.It doesnt have to be a boss fight in the books there is not even a embodied night king currently. Its just symbolism and historical tails kinda demands that he exists and many think hes inside the weirwood currently.
>>220461531daynes
>>220461638Dayne?
>>220460882yes, emilia also confirmed many times they recorded different versions of season 8 and the cast wasn't sure which one would air, I think she still hopes for fans to do a #releasethedanycut because she hates dany's ending>>220460896Not only that, dumbass, look where her hand is protectively resting plus she has a sword which fits the leaks that came out months before this postcard was released
>>220459028We're gold.
>>220461896NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO it's her turn!
>>220461489>First Men aren't swarthoids like all the confirmed First Men, like the Starks>the First Men were Valyrian-ish (not icsh)!Are you retarded? Or am I?>>220458036It's already been confirmed "Who will kill the Night King?" is something D&D made up. Jewgle it. Moreover, the Night King is show-only.inb4 muh Night's King, muh maybe he hasn't been revealed yet, muh time-traveling Bran is the Night King according to his keikaku, etc.
Aside from Hardyng and Royce are there any cool houses from Vale?The other kingdoms all seem to have loads of cool houses.
>>220462065First Men are swarthy?
>>220461531Scania and Sorbs exist in Westeros so maybe Denmark too.
why are there so many black people?
>>220462123cool it with the anti-valyrianism
The daynes and Hightowers look like Valyrians because they decend from azor ahai who came to westeros thousands of years ago
>>220462162based theory, if true
>>220462081I don't think that specific word was ever used by Gurm, but yes, they all have dark hair/eyes.
"her lover was always younger and more comely though his face remained a shifting shadow"
>>220462232no they don't, they have red hair and blue/green eyes too
>>220462232>dark eyesDo they?
>>220462246Don't forget Val, she's blonde.
>>220462246And blonde. Lannisters are first men. Also Val the wildling has targ hair
>>220462276Aemon tapped her grandma.
>>220462232>>220462246>>220462263>>220462274First Men are like Celts, like the Irish.For example we have Black Irish and Red Irish. One is just more common.
First men is a blanket term for whoever was in Westeros before the Andal invasion. In reality there were multiple waves of migration of different grasslands people. The closest thing to true first men were the hairy men/ibbish Neanderthal type people, people like the skagosi. When Garth the green led people across the arm of dorne his people were already in their Bronze Age, these people would have been proto andals and blonde Gipps, various steppe people. They would have come into conflict with the Stone Age hairy men that were already there
>>220462384That's a really good theory, actually. Makes way more sense than the "First Men" just being one group.
POPPA BEAR!
>>220462276I forgot about the Lannister retcon
Would you rather be lord of a house minor in the Reach or the North?
ded threadded show
>>220462535What is dead may never die
>>220462510Obviously the reach, is that even a fucking question?
>>220462535tbqh senpai the whole board is slow these days
>>220462510the north mogs the south hardwhat kind of cuck would want to live in the flowery weak-ass mutt south?
>>220462591/From/ appears to fare better than here. Much better, actually.
>>220462626mostly bots and samefags, like the fishtank threads
>>220462646>fishtankOh shit I forgot /ftl/ existed because I added filters for it so long ago.
Egg knows things
>>220462510The North is more comfy.
>>220462794Was Egg being silly or does he seriously not know two of those aren't considered kingdoms?
Oh lawd dam dragonz
>>220462893pure valyrian blood :)))
>>220462823They have their own lord paramount, they are effectively kingdoms, their Lord is a direct vassal of the crown just like the lords of the actual kingdoms
>>220457621Dude stop with these posts already, dany's already a stretched out whore with no redemption.
>>220462946They're subdivisions of the realm, sure, but that's not really the same thing. Kind of like how Wales is part of the UK but isn't a kingdom, or some US states aren't commonwealths. Plus one of the regions doesn't even have a lord paramount.
>>220462989plus she's dead
>She's been fucking Lancel Lannister and Osmund Kettleblack and probably Moon Boy for all I know.Why, yes, I'm reading AFFC, how could you tell?
>>220463130the show erred in not including the Kettleblacks
Danelle Lothston gives me Mairon vibes.
>Reading Clash and there's a glaring retcon regarding Aerys I's wifeunreadable trash
>>220463765>Retcon in the first published book to mention her
>>220463765what is it?
>>220455624THAT'S TAOOBA!
>>220459028How about fucking neither? We support Dalton Greyjoy here
>>220459028I was blacks but I defected when I enjoyed how much of a little shit Eggy Deuce was in season 2
poppa bear?
>>220463428Lothstons are a cadet branch of the Boltons.
>>220459028Rhaenyra is going to be so retarded in season 3 I might start supporting her. She’s not quite retarded enough just yet
>season 3 is going to consist of Daemon spooky antics omin Harrenhal and the Rhverkands and TAOOBA chasing himKino
>>220459028greens are more interesting (and technically in the right) so i prefer them
>>220464315>technically in the rightno you blatantly stupid idiot
>>220464315>technically in the rightTrue.
>>220464315>>220464426samefag retard
>>220458924Or you could just, like, burn them all with dragons.I think Arya will kill the Night King, but Jon Snow will resurrect as the Night King. The drama.
>>220464426there’s a reason all later targs acknowledged 'Nyrs as a usurper.
>>220464426Blacks are gonna seethe
>>220464426Kings word is law fags, the king just said the the kings word is not law, so by your own philosophy the kings law is not law
>>220464581Guess that confirms Aegon was the heir.
>>220464426based vissy deconstructing absolutist drivel
cutest queen!
>>220464853Brothel queen
>>220463818it is mentioned he marries his sisterbut then George develops more that era and Daeron II doesn't have any daughters and Aerys I marries a Penrose woman
>>220465358interesting catch
>>220465329
olivia cooke is ugly and you won't convince me otherwise
>>220464853>>220465426She's so pretty.It was hilarious in Ready Player One when we were supposed to think she was ruined because of a birthmark lol.
Did she deserve it?
>O MY SHADOWBABYreally, george?
>Starks, gardeners, lannisters and Hightowers: hold dominion over their lands for 5000 years of consistent rule >targaryens: go extinct after a couple centuries Where’s that magic special blood tho? Why didn’t the dragons save them?
Where my faeGODS at >>220465582crushed to death by Theon
I rewatched season 1 and it feels like a completely different show with actual stakes. Jesus.
>>220466246they were a glorified crew in Old Valyria what do you expect
>>220466251Here
>>220466251More like Jon Conman and Young Grifter LMAO
>>220466375*styles on your iron throne*
You're in the vanguard and this guy comes running at you screamingHow do you avoid getting cleaved in twain?
>>220466361he said this
>>220466530Shoot him with my dragonbone bow from 500 yards away
I know it wont happen but I think it would be cool when Jon gets revived if he turns into a Lady Stoneheart corruption of himself and just begins indulging his most base instincts.
>>220462066Hunters are a bit like Valeman TarlysCorbrays have a Valyrian steel sword, Lady Forlorn, that gets passed around to most martial member Sistermen, like Borell and Sunderland are former pirates, now turned into crabbers and ship scavengersHouse Uppland descends from water witch, but that's all we really know about themOssifer Lipps and Uther Shett have funny names
>>220466530the early seasons had such soul
>>220462066>The other kingdoms all seem to have loads of cool houses.Like Hightower, Dayne, and uh...
>>220465507>Here's your hideous monster that no one could ever love, bro.
>>220465507>>220466669>DUDE, THE 80s!!!
What's this nigga up to?He knows the truth about several of the story's biggest secrets.
>>220466695he and his swamp monkeys seemed busy slinging poison darts at ironbabbies
>>220466695Unbothered, Moisturized, in his lane
I just learned of the undead tommen theory and i immediately believe it will happen wholeheartedly
>>220466530He better have mail under that Gambesson or he's being shanked
not /GoT/ related but there is no Sopranos thread and I'm rewatching it. Livia isn't really that bad of a mother desu, she was nice to AJ and Meadow. I don't think she'd have been too difficult to deal with desu.
>>220459073luke is icsh
>>220466845>shirtless tommen
>>220466612it absolutely will, boggles my mind how readers miss that all of Dance is setting up Jon and Danny absolutely cutting loose. Danny about to come back to Mereen a full fledged dragon rider with her own dothraki horde, ready to burn the shit out of everyone who opposes her. Jon is about to rez with a frozen heart and an army of wildlings loyal only to him.
>>220467498You're retarded. Ignoring the fact she tries to have Tony killed, she's acts evil and rotten towards anyone and everyone she interacts with. The only time she does anything remotely nice is when she stops Junior from killing Chris.
Imagine being Ser Criston Cole, the sworn sword of Princess Rhaenyra "The Realm's Delight" Targaryen
>>220467842forgot pic
>>220467704I don't think she was trying to have Tony killed, she was expressing frustration and Junior read it that way though. It's a bit more open ended I think.
Gods what a stewpid thread
>>220466202>O MY RANDOM IRONBORN SURVIVORwhat a hack
>>220466695
Was she gonna let Hizdhar actually rule with her or was he just supposed to sit still and look pretty? Or like did she want to just palm off the day to day running of Meereen to him because she hates everyone in it
>>220467854
>>220468759"Or"?Her final vision quest is what the entire book was building up to. If she hadn't been whisked away, then she would have "palmed off the day to day running" until her ego/ambition/bloodlust boiled over.
So who was the Prince that was Promised?It's not Jon Snow because he didn't unite the realmIt's not Dany either for the same reasonsArya isn't a Prince So who was it?
>>220469566>Arya isn't a PrinceShe is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU8eL2CjzHwGot is so cool brosI wish it didn't turn to shit
>>220469566Missandei tells us its more accurately “The Prince or Princess who was promised” they did a fakeout where it was supposed to possibly be Daenerys. It was Arya.
>>220457517in acting? maybe. Bodywise, young alicent is more normal looking than monke, but old alicent is a titlet fatty
>>220466923The Sniggering Tempest!
>>220469566It was Gendry, that's why he had to bang Arya.The Seed is Strong, Ned.
By what right does the wolf judge the lion!?!
>>220463014Wales was an independent kingdom and the Lord Paramount of the Crownlands is the King himself.
>>220464315>greens are more interesting (and technically in the right)Rhaenyra may have been a slut but the fact is Viserys named her as his heir and the nobility of the kingdom swore an oath recognizing her as such.
>>220471141When the crown goes against the gods, Ser Robyn goes against the crown
>>220470468You swore le oath. You should’ve let Aerys burn them all
bear poppa ...
>>220471016>Kingdom of X, of Y, of Z>DorneWhat did Gurm meme by this? Is Dorne supposed to be un-pretentious?
>>220471285I don't get itFuck you I don't get it
How did the Boltons get away with living in a place called the Evilfort for so long
>>220471291It wasn't united before the coming of Rhoynar and Rhoynar themselves didn't have kings, they used the title of Prince instead, something that Martells kept doing
>>220457621Jon is too pure for Dany.
>>220458036I wouldn’t say Dany is “evil” but GRRM is obviously setting her up to take an adversarial role to those in Westeros. Just look at her army on paper>eunuch child slave soldiers>dothraki rapers>ironborn rapers>kingslaying/kingslaying evil imp>fire breathing killing machines Shes going to have the worst PR ever when she lands in Westeros. She’s probably going to at least suspect YG is a fake through Illyrio, but no one else will believe her. They have to come into conflict because Dany doesn’t have any actually interesting adversaries in the 7K. YG dies, Dany takes her throne but will be vilified and schemed against on day one. It’s crazy because you can sort of see it in the show but since they switched the conflicts everyone distrusting and hating Dany makes less sense.
>show wants me to hate a characterI like them>show wants me to root for a characterI hate themOnly in house of the dragon.
>>220469566It’s Jon he’s literally a “promised” and without his efforts the battle of Winterfell wouldn’t have happened and everyone would’ve died.
>>220472007>Only in house of the dragon.Actually there are quite a few shows like that
>>220471941>I wouldn’t say Dany is “evil” but GRRM is obviously setting her up to take an adversarial role to those in Westeros. Just look at her army on paperYep, that's what I always thought GRRM was going for, even before the show finale. Dany will go down in Westerosi history as a psycho oriental despot whore who sacked the capital and murdered le wholesome YG boy, even though in reality she's a good, well-meaning person while YG is a ZOG puppet.
>>220472230>while YG is a ZOG puppet.Go fuck yourself daeronscum"The good" my fucking arse
....semoc eH
>>220470468Why are Westerosi so obsessed with their ebin house fursonas?
>>220473189!on ,on ,oN
>>220472230>though in reality she's a good, well-meaning person
>>220473909t. House Suggs
>>220473953>disrespecting the Pink Dread
>>220457517True. Young Rhaenyra looks inbred and old Rhaenyra looks like Hunter Schafer.
>>220471016>wasNope, try again. And the king is king, not a mere lord paramount. Just accept that the author is right and you aren't lol.
>>220471141Most of those who swore an oath were dead, and Viserys never had a new oath sworn after Aegon was born (because as a male he rightly inherits).
Tommen and the High Sparrow were based and the people should've dragged Cersei out into the streets and killed her for what she did
>>220475421Cersei plotline was as forced as it was lame. If she had been punished by the common people she constantly shat on, it would have been both logical and satisfactory. Instead we had that fucktarded finale, what a waste of money.
>>220475421>>220475486>Rhaenyra>CerseiWhat is it with the common people villainizing what a woman (their rightful queen) does with her own body?
>>220475837She fucked her brother, cucked her husband, and murdered the actual rightful queen and the pope and hundreds of others, which drove her son to suicide.
>>220464581>Kings word is lawnope. westeros is a feudal monarchy not an absolute monarchy. it's the reason aegon i created the crownlands and didn't just "own" everything on the map
>>220475837her body belongs to the realm.
>>220466695My favourite theory (from reddit) is that he warped into Arthur Dayne to save Ned, then his original body died, so he is now wearing Arthur Dayne's body permanently
>First look at Annie Shapero as Alysanne Blackwood, aka Black Aly, in ‘HOUSE OF THE DRAGON’ Season 3
>>220477088>hook nosed kikeI'm sure Cregan will stop executing blacks for a piece of Aly's pussy.
>>220471941>>dany will distrust YG because of the false dragon prophecy>dany gonna either fight him or ask him to tame a dragon to prove he's a real targ, either way yg ends up dying and dany will get the throne>people will start claiming she killed the true heir to the throne and usurped it, maybe she will even be blamed for burning KL>dany will get deeply disillusioned>she goes to the north to help in the long night>she will probably believe jon is a targ after he rides one of her dragons
>>220475421She said she wouldn't be like her grandfather's mistress sobbing and being pathetic while being marched naked through the streets. But Cersei did exactly that at the end which I thought was hilarious.
What the fuck was George thinking having Arya actually make it to Braavos? There's nothing to do with it in the long term that doesn't either make it pointless or fuck up other plotlines.
>>220477088Holy SHIT this season is going to be ridiculous
>>220475421>for what she didWhat?
>>220477305Essos is a waste of time. More news at eleven.
>>220466695GRRM outright admitted in an old interview he can't bring him out because the guy would instantly solve/resolve/reveal several major plot points and secrets.
>>220471941>>220477183I think what's really going to break her is her discovering she's not Targaryen but some random Dragonseed.Two things point to it:>She's called STORMBORN, and the reason for the nickname is retarded. Nobody else in the setting got their nickname due to the circumstances of their birth. She got hers because she's from the STORMLANDS.>There is no reason to think Aegon is fake. Varys reveals this information while in a 1 on 1 conversation with a man he's about to kill. GRRM set it up in such a way he has ZERO reasons to lie.
>>220477359It's harder to find reasons the people wouldn't want her dead
>>220477464The Targaryen fleet got smashed at anchor at Dragonstone the night she was born because of the storm its not like its a myth
>>220466695>What's this nigga up to?
>>220477762Isn’t Howland supposed to guard the neck against southern invasion? Probably why he never sent all his men away
>>220455023Attractive big tittied redheads. Like Cat in the book is said to be very hot. And Lysa was a close second and only became prime architecture.
>>220475227>Nope, try again.Yes, Wales was in fact an independent kingdom.>And the king is king, not a mere lord paramount.He is lord paramount of the Crownlands _in addition_ to being the king of Westeros.>Just accept that the author is right and you aren't lol.Gurm is wrong about so much that nothing he says can be taken as canon.>>220475242>Most of those who swore an oath were dead,Their descendants were legally bound by the oath.>and Viserys never had a new oath sworn after Aegon was bornBecause he already had an heir.
>>220477939>Their descendants were legally bound by the oath.No.
>>220477972>imagine trying to legally weasel out of an oath like some (((maester)))Go spin your dreidel somewhere else.
Rhaenyra was the named heir, the rest doesn't matter, it's like arguing Renly wasn't a usurper because nobody signed an oath that Stannis would be the heir if Robs kids were Lannister incest spawn
>>220478130>the rest doesn't matterIt actually doesViserys had no legal right to do that under andal custom>nobody signed an oath that Stannis would be the heir See, the king calling everyone to court to swear an oath is irrelevant. Law is above the king. In his dying moments Robert named Joffrey his heir, specifically, and Ned intentionally lied in the will. Was then Ned an usurper, and Joffrey the rightful king because of Robert's last wish? No, of course not, Joffrey was illegitimate. Stannis is the heir because he's the legitimate successor, like Aegon II. Stannis himself refers to Rahenyra as usurper.
Why did Dany's hair burn in the pyre, but not any other part of her body?
>>220478067Oaths need to be renewed schlomo for the same reason you're not responsible for the actions of your ancestors
>>220478207Robert took it from the Targaryens, it's written specifically so there's no clean answer. Power resides where men believe it to be etc.
Renly is the rightful king because he follows the Seven and isn't a bastard.
>>220478816i would bend the knee to renly
>>220467625season 1 bran is icsh
What was the plan with selling Sansa to the boltons anyways
>>220479381profit
>>220479381Littlefinger likes them broken in
>>220462803>winter comes>freeze your ass off for several years, run out of grain, and starve
>>220479381Baelish doesn't make plans. He just sets up dominoes randomly and when they fall, he just rolls with it and acts like it was all part of the scheme.
>>220478661>Oaths need to be renewedNo they don't. The King is an absolute monarch and his word is law, (backed up by flying WMDs) there isn't some kinda "Supreme Court of Westeros" that can overrule him.Rhaenrya was his first born child, Viserys had named her as his heir, the nobility of Westeros swore an oath and she was already a married adult with heirs of her own.The (((Hightowers))) were blatantly obvious usurpers and nobody would have believed a "deathbed confession" that Viserys had suddenly changed his mind out of the blue.
>>220479381Apparently to cause friction between the Boltons and the Lannisters, but that never happened so it was completely pointless. And it ended up ruining his character and Sansa's so fantastic writing all around.
>>220479606Show Baelish maybeBook Baelish is not retarded and didn't give Sansa to the Boltons>He just sets up dominoes randomly and when they fall, he just rolls with it and acts like it was all part of the schemeThat is partially true, when in doubt he resorts to causing mayhem to create opportunities for him to exploit, but he DOES exploit them. He does get Harrenhal, he does get the Vale, he is indeed in speaking terms with the Tyrells, it's not "lol so randumb" like for example the smart black girl from the boys. His schemes, while not precise, DO have a point.
Is House of the Dragon good? I dropped GoT by the end of season 6 because it felt retarded.
>>220479616>The King is an absolute monarchThat's not trueIt's a feudal monarchy, not an absolute oneThe king doesn't even have an army
>>220479934It's even more retarded
>>220479934If season 6 was your limit, then house of the dragon will surpass itIt's the best example of a mixed bag, some things are really really good, but others are so fucking dumb.
>>220479934The first 2/3 of season 1 is really good.The rest though...
Reminder that Ned rejects Renly's help and then monologues to himself later that he was counting on his help to seize control of KL and is upset he bailed (after being rejected).
>>220480411>The first 2/3 of season 1Best episodes are 7, 8 and 10 though9 being the standout because it's the shit episode
>>220479979>The king doesn't even have an armyjoffrey is sexy hot
>>220478130Jaehaerys was king, Rhaena wasn't queen. Viserys was king by the same precedent over Rhaenys. If Rhaenyra were the rightful successor to Viserys, by law Viserys wouldn't even have been king.
>fans of Dragonstone Cunt have no clue how feudal monarchy worksFigures.
>>220481353>but visewys made whaenywa his hecking heirYes, he ignored the law, and consequently the realm exploded into a succession war the moment he died, destroying his dynasty, killing their dragons, and leading to their fall as a royal house within two centuries. Should teach you the value of abiding by the law.
>>220481460Its not the law though there is no law. There was no magna carta in westeros, the king does whatever he wants.
>>220481524>bootlicking for a fictional tryanical monarchy and not wanting them to be usurped or plotted against The Gimp from pulp fiction levels of masochism and submissiveness
>>220481524You WILL read at least ten monographs about medieval customary law before posting again.
>>220481524Do you think that since the magna carta was an english document, the polish kingdoms had absolute rule?Do you think the italian city states where absolute monarchies? The portuguese, perhaps?
A better king than Viserys had the good sense to hold a great council to decide the succession (where the lords overwhelmingly rejected the female line). But the guy who made Balerion die of cringe ignores thousands of years of tradition and his dynasty pays the price.
>>220481864He knew his daughter would lose even worse than Rhaenys lmao
>>220477088>>220477136a jewish actress fits house blackwood
>>220477939>Their descendants were legally bound by the oath.That's not how oaths have ever worked, or they wouldn't renew them so often. >>220478067>seething at educated western men so you can white knight for inbred schizos that lost their homelandffs lmao
>>220479979Targaryens are Chosen, Andals and First Men are cattle. Stop questioning the narrative.
>>220481864Viserys was a middling king at best and a really bad parent.He finally gets the sons he wanted and basically ignores them.
How much longer til akotsk season 2
>>220458036>night kingkill yourself
>>2204831685 years
>>220483988Whatever anon, you know what I meant, come the fuck on, I'm shitting on the show.I don't think Arya will solve the long winter, whatever that solution may be. It could be the Jon marriage theory for all I care, the point is that what happened in the show IS NOT grrm's writing.
Why is so much of late stage GoT criticism consist of shit like:>Why didn't the show just go on forever? Why didn't we get the opinions of Ser Glup of House Shitto on the burning of the Sept of Baelor? Why didn't they just make 15 seasons and conclude the show when Lena Headey and NCW are pushing 60?" Did people really think that the show going on for another ~5 years was a real possibility? On the season 8 documentary everyone seems miserable and just wants the show to be over so they're not away from their families for eight months out of the year. Do people think that a "faithful" adaptation of Feast of Dance was viable when those books drove the series off a cliff in the first place? While there is absolutely worthy criticism of the show post season 4 I seriously feel like I'm taking crazy pills when I see the type of arguments people craft online, it feels like the fanbase was just suffering from collective separation anxiety when their favorite show ended.
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>>220484707Ultimately they adapted it poorly but it was Georges fault for being a fat hack and not finishing the books
>>220484707Please explain how the show not being long means Arya has to ninja jump and kill the night king out of nowhere
>>220478207>Viserys had no legal right to do that under andal customThe kings word is law nerd and you can say Roberts will was illegitimate as he didn't know Joff wasn't his kid
Now that the dust has settled, even if he was Lannister, it was extremely unrealistic that the midge wasn't punted around all the time.
>>220484919Tywin couldn't bring himselfHe was all that was left of JoannaHe says that its because he's a Lannister but its a lie, it's because of Joanna, he knew she wouldn't have wanted him dead. He never remarried either
>>220484889Why is this a problem? Why do you insist le chosen one had to have a swordfight with the dark Lord like every other fantasy story ever?
Now that the dust has settled... Varys was a targ, right?
You know whatI'm not going to fall for the baitNot tonight.
>>220485080Nta but Arya is too ugly to be the chosen one.Her deformed goblin face irks me.
>>220485135She isn't the chosen one, just someone who was in the right place at the right time and given her training by the assassins who worship death she was equipped to destroy the avatar of death
>>220485344She's just too ugly.I don't care about Arya for aesthetic reasons, the actress portraying her is a dog and should've died like a dog.Waif would've been the perfect Arya.
>>220485391So you wanted Jon to be the chosen one because you have a crush on him? Fuckin Gay
>>220485080>>220485344If you understand anything about what makes a story good, you understand why Arya fails>CharacterThere is no character relation between her and the fight against the long winter, her character arc and quest are completely unrelated. Her character is unchanged by the event.>ThemesNo themes are explored. It's not a prophecy fulfilled, as its not Jon, but it's not a subversion of the prophecy either as Melisandre bullshits the audience about how this was always Arya's role. Nothing is gained, nothing is lost.>PayoffsRelated to the other two, there is no payoff or satisfaction because there was absolutely no set up for it.>MechanicsShe just spawns in the air and kills him, the scene looks stupid even on a logical point of viewThere is no tension, no drama, no plan, she just spawns. It's not a story, it's an encounter the DM rolled from an encounter table, it's completely random, it achieves nothing, it satisfies absolutely nobody as even arya fans are invested in HER plotline, not that (even the actress was left dumbfounded by the choice)It doesn't make logical sense, it's not a character moment, it's a complete storytelling blackhole. This would be fine maybe for marvel, but people expected more from the story that gave us so much quality beforehand.
>>220485483Mind you, this is all important because its not a minor event, it's the story that was set up in the first scene of the first episode, or in the books, the very prologue. It's THE POINT of the story, and in the show it's pointless, for all those reasons.
>>220485483You forgot to mention; the Shite King doesn't immediately transform her into a zombie or at least kill her considering he has his hand around her throat.
>>220485430No, I wanted WAIF to be the chosen one.
>>220485483Melisandre wasn't saying Arya was fulfilling the prophecy idiot, she was just giving her words of encouragement so she could do what needed to be done. You are braindead and your mind is governed by cliches and you genuinely thought this series was about chosen ones and the claiming that you're above marvel fans LMAO
>>220485783Yes, melisandre was encouraging a random little girl to go close "blue eyes" instead of literally anyone else around her.Please.Also even IF that wasn't the case, the points all still stand. It achieves NOTHING with the MAIN PLOT of the series. It says NOTHING about the dangers of blindly following prophecy.> you genuinely thought this series was about chosen ones I didn't, there's nothing of that in my post. You are simply too retarded to read
>>220485848>MAIN PLOT of the seriesMore of a red herring really
>>220485848>le main plotWhere??? the white walkers appear in maybe one episode per season until season 7 lol. They're even less prominent in the books. You're saying that they HAD to be the final boss again, because your mind is governed by cliches and you think the fantasy story has to end with an epic lightsaber duel with the dakr lord
>waiting for Milena and Lola to post their Knight of the Seven Kingdoms reaction on patreon today
>>220486259>You're saying that they HAD to be the final boss againNo, they could have died in episode 3Once again, you are not reading the posts you are replying to.Notice how you keep hammering in this part about lightsabers and prophecy when it was a footnote in my criticism of it, because you have no reply. You know it's dogshit, so why do you defend it?
>>220486305https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blQEB3d6WAwIt's up!
>>220486343I defend it because I liked it l. Arya slaying the God.of death after training with a bunch of death cultists felt surprising but appropriate for me.
>>220486442NTA but thank you patreonanon
>>220486442>Milena enjoying the battle through her facial expressions>Lola talking non-stop trying to predictfag so she appears intelligentevery fucking time
>>220485121>Get da cosh Joffrey, there's some stark fucking cunts
>>220487147They look like trannies
Renly would have been the best king and could only be defeated by bullshit magic that was only used once because there was no logical reason why he shouldn't be king so the writers had to pull something out of their ass
>>220487466>Anon sees two perfectly normal and average 6 and 4 women>TRANNIES, PENISESI beg you to go outside
>>220487504>average 6Sounds like you need to go outside anon
>>2204875216 and 4 meaning one is slightly above and the other slightly below, so two average women. Go out and you'll see a dozen like them
>>220487553Neither of them are a 6 lmao
>>220487569The brown one looks bad in the webm because she's making weird faces but is fineEither way, you can tell me they are both 2s and you will still have to explain why "tranny cock" is the first thing that came to your mind instead of "ugly woman"
>>220470468BY WHAT RIGHT DOES THE TRANNY BAN THE FUNPOSTER?
>>220487443who should have Liam played?
Team black are fags
>>220479303i used to be icsh now i'm just vh
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>>220479616Targs are Jews, Hightowers are white
