>There are Mycenaean daggers that are blackened bronze. The theory is they probably could have blackened bronze in those days>With Agamemnon, our costume designer, is trying to communicate how elevated he is relative to everyone else. You do that through materials that would be very expensive.>I cast Travis Scott because I wanted to nod towards the idea that his story has been handed down as oral poetry, which is analogous to rap.
Daggers for reference
Putting aside that this is massive cope, that still leaves about 998 other things wrong with this pile of shit
>>220454705>I cast Travis Scott because I wanted to nod towards the idea that his story has been handed down as oral poetry, which is analogous to rap.yes i definitely see where the connection to the Greek King of Kings is
>>220454705> cast Travis Scott because I wanted to nod towards the idea that his story has been handed down as oral poetry, which is analogous to rap.I'm fairly certain there's other things that came before rap but what do I know
>>220454705>I cast Travis Scott because I wanted to nod towards the idea that his story has been handed down as oral poetry, which is analogous to rap.Ok but then why not just cast a guy who looks Greek who recites poetry?
>>220454705Yes, yes and Napoleon shoots the Great pyramid to show how he dominated Mamluks.We all know you are fags are giga artists beyond common comprehension and historical authenticity is pulled only when it's convenient.
>>220456889Why do so called movie lovers feel every histroical movie has to be 100% accurate
>>220456918A concerning number of people derive their understanding of history from pop-media, and some of the people in charge of making these films understand that to a degree.
>>220454705>>I cast Travis Scott because I wanted to nod towards the idea that his story has been handed down as oral poetry, which is analogous to rap.The outrage over trap in the film is especially funny because chuds genuinely think James Horner-style orchestral scoring is somehow “authentic” to Bronze Age Greece. It will come as a profound shock to chuds to learn that the ancient Greeks used none of the instruments James Horner does.In fact, trap is much closer to actual Homeric performance culture than James Horner-style music. Homeric epic was oral, rhythmic, repetitive, boastful, improvisatory, and performed competitively for live audiences. It was designed to hit hard in the moment: formulaic phrases, recurring epithets, aggressive flexing, taunting enemies, celebrating violence, wealth, lineage, revenge, and divine favor. That is structurally and socially much closer to rap and trap than to the swelling emotional scores of orchestral film scores. Chuds cannot even conceive of the fact that the use of orchestral music in films is a modern convention rather than orchestral music literally playing during the Trojan War. Meanwhile, trap actually preserves several features that would make immediate sense in an oral heroic culture
>>220456945>'historical accuracy' is suddenly important but only when it's a pretext to put a poorly cast rapper into a film
>>220456918Nigger you would have an argument if Napoleon were a good movie DESPITE its blatant agenda of making incel Napoleon. But it's garbage production blown out of the water by any period drama in writing and 10 seconds of Bondarchuk's deleted scenes in action. Once again, appealing to historical authenticity when it's convenient.
>>220456945Yeah bro hip hop its so greekish
>>220456998It isn't any less ancient Greek than a James Horner score.
>>220456945>let me explain to you why rap music is very appropriate to one of Homer's tales, chudAlmost everyone in the world thinks you're a disgusting freak lol, even your own kind.
>>220456987I criticized the movie’s portrayal of Napoleon for being too one-dimensional and it'soveruse of blue tint. I just think the whole “that wasn’t 100% accurate” gotcha is getting old. Like seriously who cares if Napoleon shoots the pyramids with canons. It gets the point across. Ridley is 100% right about that
>>220454705>dey blackened dey helen
>>220456998NTA, but you must have a reading comprehension of a 5 year old. He said trap is gay and so were/are the Gayreeks.
>>220457007people like you should be dragged out into the street and shot
>>220454705Can we just be honest and say the problems are niggas in a white story
>>220457065Some retarded reddit atheist is going to show up and try tell you greeks weren't white
>>220457007I'm waiting for all-Chinese revisions to African folklore and history, as Chyna is taking over their continent anyway.
>>220456918Because otherwise there's no point in making a historical movie, you might as well just start calling it historical fiction.
>>220457016Are you fucking autistic? >I criticized the movie’s portrayal of Napoleon for being too one-dimensional Do you not understand that this cannon shot is part of that portrayal. The egyptoboo Napoleon that loved everything that had to do with ancient Egypt is replaced with an autistic mong who shoots at the last Wonder of the World and has an insecure stare-down with a mummy. You do understand that your argument is literally "an inaccurate portrayal of Napoleon in this movie has nothing to do with it being a one-dimensional portrayal?" >It gets the point acrossWhat point, you autistic creature? For what purpose is this cannon shot made? What doe sit mean in terms of Napoleon's character? To show that he doesn't give a fuck? That's the trade off?
>>220457046the truth triggers chuddie so much that he literally flies into a murderous rage lmao
>>220457007If hip hop is closer then yes it's closer, but they definitely had horns back then and plenty of other instruments.The real reason Travis is wrecking shit like John Cena's final WrestleMania match is comms and rituals n shit. These movies are used to communicate with metaphors. You wouldn't get it but a rich dude watching the movie will be like oh so we're going to war with Russia next year. So all the rich people know the plan and you don't
>>220457039If anyone can find the source I'd like it bc supposedly the greeks were mutts at a certain point. The whole bringing in immigrants bc it's nice and good thing that the them do, they been doing it for thousands of years. Not to say all poetry grew from niggerdom but it's kinda funny like yeah okay greeks really were nigger fags congrats
>>220457121Lmao you're the fucking autistic one spasming out over details, the point was that he conquered egypt.That's it. It wasn't a major focus of the biopic. They weren't going to go into a lawrence of arabia tier fucking political discussion on every one of fucking napoleon's conquest.
Sorry Nolan, but I shan't be watching.
>>220457240it's bullshit, the whole democracy myth, like 10% ppl had voting rights and they all were 'med' white, slavery was everywhere so you did have niggers in greece, but all slaves, 0% chance a nigger would become a person with voting rights, the only non-slave nigger around in greece might've been a random trader or emissary but also unlikely
>>220457246>It wasn't a major focus of the biopicYes, autistic nigger faggot. The focus is Napoleon's incel persona. That is reinforced by this retarded scene that you acknowledge to be one-dimensional yet seemingly ignore how this is compounded by all these scenes of him falling asleep at the meeting and literally not giving a fuck about Egypt despite being the one who kick-started modern Egyptology.>They weren't going to go into a lawrence of arabia tier fucking political discussionRetarded nigger, not lying about Napoleon shooting the pyramid is not Lawrence of Arabia-tier discourse. What a retarded equivalent from a retarded nigger, who thinks this is a good scene. Checks out, really.
>>220457314and the random black trader would 99% of the time be a slave trader selling his negro brothers, weird this part is never portrayed in cinema or books
>>220457314there were no negro slaves in greece. most slaves were greeks from other city-states/ kingdoms and when they were barbarians they were from thrace, scythia and caria. in that order
>>220457418bs, slaver trade from egypt was 100% niggers
>>220454705Shan't be watchingBut I shall be watching picrel, for the 1000th time
>>220457353Lmao why are you so mad you are completely overreacting to what I said. You're acting like i'm saying it's the greatest movie of all time when i'm just saying nitpicking over fucking historical details is getting kind of annoying with movies nowadays. I'm not defending the egypt sequence because that would imply that i'm defending the fucking movie.
>>220457126Meanwhile you only need a single word
>>220457418>no negro slaveskek, this is what few decades of lgbt/dei academia and slavery taboo results in, total delusion and blacked helen, we wuz greekz and shiet
>>220457520>i'm just saying nitpicking over fucking historical details is getting kind of annoying with movies nowadays.And I'm telling you, stupid fucking nigger faggot. I've already told you in the second post. If this Pyramid shot was for something actually meaningful, then it wouldn't matter.But I repeat to you for the 3rd time.It does nothing for Napoleon's character except show him as an autistic person who disregards historic monuments in order to show forceIt's a bad and jarring visual because reducing the entire Egyptian campaign to one cannon shot after which I'm presuming Mamelukes all surrendered does not make the entire affair in any way impressive.So once again, you retarded fucking nigger autist. What is it for? What was gained by this blatant disregard of common sense? >would imply that i'm defending the fucking movie.Are those your posts above proclaiming that Ridley was 100% in the right to show the Egyptian campaign in this manner? Too autistic to remember what you wrote? Don't backpedal now. Defend your favorite slop.The fact that you still fail to realize that the Pyramid shooting is literally part of one dimensional portrayal you supposedly didn't like is staggering.
>>220454705>I cast Travis Scott because I wanted to nod towards the idea that his story has been handed down as oral poetry, which is analogous to rap.
>>220457760also showing fathers of democracy buying/selling niggers left and right would cause a culture shock, selling niggers is reserved for whites 2000 years later, can't have that, gotta have niggers with voting rights in my movie
>>220456918because they are the eternal mid-wits
>>220457065it looks like shit even if you ignore the nigs
>>220457808>also showing fathers of democracy buying/selling niggers left and right would cause a culture shockthat didnt happen in ancient greece though. not even in rome
>>220457689A lot of the criticism of the pyramid scene came down to historical accuracy, which is what I was complaining about.For what it’s worth, I completely agree that the movie mischaracterized Napoleon and made him feel one-dimensional. In my view, criticizing the storytelling and characterization is more useful than just pointing out that it isn’t fully accurate
>>220456918Because the source material is compelling enough, if you make a movie based on a historic event, its going to draw in the audience who know about it and want to see a multi-million dollar visual spectacle of the event: realizes the historical event in their mind. Might as well be making fiction if you dont have any intention on following what actually happened.Whilst I was writing this reply, I noticed how fucking retarded your position was, why are you pretending to not know basic concepts? retard.
>>220457841yes it did, all the fucking time, slaves were traded as any other goods, trade betweem egypt and greece is documented from 1200BC 5 centuries before iliad with the myceneans
>>220456918it's less about 100% accuracy and more about avoiding massive glaring inaccuracies like events that are completely made up or costumes that look straight out of a fantasy video game
>>220457934is this an egypsuns waz blackz? whatever filth
nigress actress, troon achilles, and black swords will be the least of this films problems when it releases
>>220457972egyptians sold niggers, greeks didn't do 'oh no muh george floyds', they bought them like any other, zero of them gained citizenship
>>220457974this desu. It was over before it began the moment he casted Matt Damon as Odysseus
>>220456945You are a gay nigger ranting on a Chinese cartoon forum
>>220458008no they didnt. you probably want to make a point about some modern parallel but there were no kushite or nubian slaves or otherwise in greece. you are talking out of your delusional ass.
Why do chuds bitch about one black when there's tons of white dudes
>>220457844>A lot of the criticism of the pyramid scene came down to historical accuracyAnd I'm telling you for the gorillionth time, if this disregard of history was FOR something, then it wouldn't have mattered. Do you want a concrete example of and equivalent bullshit and it not mattering? It's your favorite movie director Ridley Scott's Gladiator, where the movie pretends that Marcus Aurelius wanted to restore the Roman Republic. Complete and utter ahistorical bullshit, but bullshit for the sake of the dramatic stinger of Commodus learning of this and usurping his father, starting the chain of events. Did it happen? No. Does anybody care? No. Because this bullshit was for something.So once again, what the fuck was the cannon shot for? What did the story gain from this? What did it reveal about Napoleon's character besides that he couldn't give less of a fuck?There is no way you, with a serious face, can claim this was the only best way to show the Egyptian campaign. You cannot be this mentally stunted.
>>220458081yes there were, it's not popular in academia because reeee selling niggers is reserved for whites 2k years later to bash them for it and muh greece so enlightened that brought us democracy, except in sparta slaves were 5x more populous than natives and they traded with everyone so there were slaves from every barabrian tribe thracians, sarmatians, niggers you name it, there was no taboo for niggers and egyptians had ton of them for cheap
>>220458110>There is no way you, with a serious face, can claim this was the only best way to show the Egyptian campaign. You cannot be this mentally stunted.Why would I when I never made that claim to begin with?I >>220457016 said >Who cares if Napoleon shoots the pyramids with canons. It gets the point across. Ridley is 100% right about thatI never said that was the right choice but if that's the point they wanted to get across, then ok
>>220456918when it's about a historical person, I want it to be as accurate as possible. He could have some liberty with the dialogue, but at least he shouldn't alter what is commonly known.
>>220454728huh, those look cool as fuck
>>220458126>it's not popular in academia>they are hiding the negro slaves of ancient greece to get it to da white man.ah you are a peddler. i see.>Spartathe slaves were Messenians retard.you dont know what you are talking about. last reply from me.
>>220458234>greeks knew niggers are lazy so they just never bought blackiescheckmate chud
>>220454705humiliation ritual
>>220454705>our costume designer, is trying to communicate how elevated he is relative to everyone elseThat shit is so poorly fitted he looks like a child wearing his dad's suit. He's practically swimming in that helmet
>>220458155>I never said that was the right choiceYou are literally saying that it's okay to show the most retarded sequence of events to portray Battle of Pyramids.How about the D-Day landing showing soldiers assembling a trampoline and jumping over the defenses? You'd be okay with that too? Gets the point across. It's as ridiculous as one cannon shot at pyramids making the entire Mameluke army surrender. >I never said that was the right choice Then why the fuck are you defending it for 10 fucking posts, mongoloid? Not once have you tried to argue the artistic merits of the scene that warranted this inaccuracy, so I'm going to assume you don't put much stock in this either. What are you jannying this garbage for?
>>220458183nigga it's a fictional story which has athena and other gods in it as characters
>>220458234you're peddling: greeks would never enslave goerge floydexcept slave trade flourished in mediterranean for thousands of years, but nope, no negroes, end of discussion, my teacher said so, they were too pure for niggers
>>220458336Should Achilles have an m60 machine gun and a wisecracking robot buddy then?
>>220458350I guess until blackspartacus remake, then it will be, ok some negroes, but only this guy, rest was totally fine
>>220456945>In fact, trap is much closer to actual Homeric performance culture than James Horner-style music. Homeric epic was oral, rhythmic, repetitive, boastful, improvisatory, and performed competitively for live audiences. It was designed to hit hard in the moment: formulaic phrases, recurring epithets, aggressive flexing, taunting enemies, celebrating violence, wealth, lineage, revenge, and divine favor. That is structurally and socially much closer to rap and trap than to the swelling emotional scores of orchestral film scores.
>>220454705Marketing knew what they were doing. The Trojan War, Banememnon, negro Helen, etc will all have next to no screen time but they knew how to bait chuds into free advertisement.
>>220454705is that the guy who played the retard in Good Time (film) starring Robert Pattinson
>>220458109> It's lit!> We burnin local tonight!
>>220458395I mean...yeslet's do it
>>220456945Got the chuds boilin with this one
>>220458234>no negroesmuh wikipedia with ethiopian slave, reeee
>>220454705I thought Travis Scott being in this was a meme. You're telling me it's real? lmao
>>220454705>having to explain yourself because the dumbasses don't understand anythingbad idea. this is the equivalent of apologizing after getting "cancelled". you just don't give in to these people
>>220458592You can see him in some of the trailershttps://youtu.be/mpm3abub6DA?si=rU1ZcERrSFGrnPlH
>>220458563it was the only nigger in greece which is why he got a portrait, greece had strict no negroes policy
>>220454728Huh, those look a million times better than Nolan's plastic Batman costume armor.
>>220454705So Nolan is turning into Guy Ritchie?
>>220458681this, acting like any of these people are reasonable or could be appeased by a simple explanation misses the point completely
>>220458715>the only n****r in greece
>>220454705>washed out colours>blacks are actually dark greys>orange-cyan color scheme>blurry backgroundLooks like abysmal dogshit, bravo Nolan.
>>220458794sorry chud, the guy already explained greece had strict no niggers policy
>>220458794>Memnon, the son of Tithonus and Aurora arrived with a large army of Indians and Aethiopianseven in your picture its clear that these were the east aethiopians.
>>220458842greeks being aware of blacks = they just didn't buy slaves from africa, too lazy
>>220458794Invading army of niggers vs local black gods, nigger slavery was forbidden tho, it was hurting their feefees
>>220454705>I cast Travis Scottfor ticket salesthats the only reasondont be ashamed to say it
>>220458794>land of ethiopians>rest is about invading ethiopianshow does this prove any local niggas in greece? all about invading ethiopians?
>>220454705Could it be... that Nolan thinks the depictions made on the bronze age vases are depictions of black people and not shadows?
>>220456918it doesn't need to be accurate, it needs to feel somewhat realistic. Being realistic means to mirror reality to a believable degree. Most contemporary historical movies shot on greenscreen simply do not.
>>220459322You think all people depicted on black-figure vase painting are supposed to be shadows??
>>220459396Yeah... like Link and Shadow Link
>>220459322>shadowsthey were whitewashed by racist greeks, it was all niggas and greeks living in harmony
>>220459092really? you think that jabronie draws dimes? he sure didn't help the ticket sales for wrestlemania when he was involved
>>220454705> I wanted to nod towards the idea that his story has been handed down as oral poetry, which is analogous to rap.It's also analogous to poetry you fucking faggot. This still doesn't explain why youd cast a fucking rapper
>>220454705that retarded spine ornament and the way the guy facing back scream autismclassic nolan crap
>>220456918Historical movies are cool because you can watch it and say "wow i can't believe this actually happened"If they fuck with the accuracy of that then you can't do that anymore and there like no point anymore. Just make a fantasy movie.
>>220459450typical greek attire chud
>>220456945>chudsYou out yourself as a troon every time you use this. Kill yourself tranny
>>220458109Another low IQ troon
>>220459482wooow I can't believe what shit is pushed and then you get lefties claiming it really happened because they seen it on bbc
>>220454705Why not cast a greek rapper then? Does it have to be some afro-american nigger?
>>220454705thats some darth vader tier plasticit looks terrible
>>220459506You out yourself as a chud every time you have meltie over the word 'chud', chud.
>>220459548btw they had srict no negroes policy, except black centurions
>>220459548A 500-strong unit of Africans manned one of the forts along Hadrian's Wall in the 3rd century AD.
>>220459615>black slavesreeeeee>black centurionswe wuz bb
>>220459665North Africans or Sub Saharan Africans?
>>2204596653rd century when they were pulling barbarians left and right (and most likely berbers/carthaginians/egyptians), quote them being negroes with voting rights pls, otherwise it's just as fascinating as germanic legions
>>220459677>black slave centurionsnow what
>>220459693Fascinating how chuds always insist on this distinction, but have a massive meltdown when someone distinguishes between norther and southern Europeans in classical antiquity.
>>220459737yeah dude, the leftie here already established greece and rome had 0 nigger slaves, work on your education
>>220459741carthage (north africa) was literally phoenicians, if you want to claim egyptians wuz niggerz and shiet good luck, phoenicians whiter than kikes
>>220459704>quote them being negroes with voting rights plsHist. Aug. Severus 22love how you had to add "with voting rights" because you know I am right about there being black people there, so you needed a loophole
>>220459781yes barbarians were included in roman army and that's why it fell, too many fucking lazy germanoids and niggers
>>220459741there is no sahara desert separating northern and southern europe
>>220459781you tell that to your leftie historian that claims greece/rome had 0 nigger slaves, just because, examples of black gladiators, they were suntanned, muh academia doesn't acknowledge black slave trade from 1200BC to 500AD, it was just slavs, thracians etc the taboo is hard even when fucking wikipedia has a picture of ethiopian slave kek
>>220459798The Sahara was a big barrier, but there was absolutely contact with Sub Saharan Africans. There were Egyptian trade routes with what's now Djibouti/Somalia. There's a few recorded expeditions by Romans to areas like Lake Chad.
>>220459859How is this bizarre schizo meltdown supposed to address anything I said?
>>220459918no voting rights = not citizens, cattleeven fucking 2000 years later when a nigger somehow sneaked into white nation it was huge enough to leave a trace everywhere (pushkin was half black as his father couldn't stop his dick from fucking a nigger slave), it is something so unusual ppl write about, but here you go, niggers were just natural state of being (according to bbc)>>220459548fucking leftist multiracial fantasy
>>220459985Coping VERY hard.
>>220456889it's funny how this movie has a bunch of bullshit too, but it looks leagues above the webm in OP.At least Napoleon looks like its set in the 1800s
>>220460050n-n-no greeks just had a strict no niggers policy you guise, that's why all their poems never make black skin as something unexpected or weird, you know like something ppl interact with all the time, the nigger slaves kek
>>220459449I saw the t.v. spot with the rapper and it's actually not that bad.
>>220459798>sahara desert
Blacks were not anywhere near close to royalty in Greece or Rome. What a piece of shit film
>>220460109or how about that musa guy (another leftist myth) the guy was so rich he had to start borrowing money on his way back kek, imagine musk running out of cash on a trip
>>220460201(we wuz richest in all history and shiet), just lend me 5 bucks to get back to malian atm bro
>>220460201Mansa Musa also likely gained most of his wealth through slave trading too lol
>>220460272and he still emptied his '1 trillion dollars' on a single trip, it's fake bs lefty narrative building wakanda, historical sources do not confirm it yet all bs news ran with it (bbc, nyt etc)
>>220460109Is this supposed to be a refutation of the sahara desert?
>>220456945DAS RITE
holy shit, history fags are so god damn cringe. no one cares about the history. It's art, not a documentary.
>>220460333Chuds always use "sahara desert" as a defense when people still crossed it, and went around it.
>>220460387oy vey, black greeks and romans are history, nigger slave by greeks/romans is fake, get your shit together
>>220460387>t. slop enjoyergo watch your marvel movies you child
>>220460403incredible that you immediately bring up some shit I have no fucking clue about and try to use it as a zinger. standard historyfag shenanigans.
>>220460397no need to go around it, fucking caravans crossing the desert straight are in egyptian sources like wtf, even roman/greek explorers went straight through to mali
>>220460421>go have fun somewhere else, we're being upset together ftfy
>>220460431I'm just quoting your previous nigger history defender here: no negroes, literally greeks and romans had embargo on negro trade for some magical reason, no negro slaves, just because, doesn't matter the whole of bronze civilization was trading slaves of all.colours for hundreds of years, greeks = no negroes, they were the first racists
>>220460453>implying he is not upset that other people are upsetYou are no different than us, brother.
>>220460453Shut the fuck up you nigger obsessed cattle. Imagine passing off the erosion of western culture because bluesky told you it was le bad to point out the obviousFucking tranny loser
>>220460116Dude, there were Black people in the a bunch of American made films about Greek mythology. They even had a Black guy play Orpheus in an American adpatation of Jason and the Argonauts.
>>220456918I don't care about historical accuracy unless it's relevant to the story. Like Helen of Troy is supposed to be this babe that caused a war over her. Achilles is basically superman turned war hero. If you either travelled for a decade or just went through horrific battles your armor and helmet should reflect that: patina, grimy, bloodstained etc. Matching visuals with story is a core task of any filmmaker.>>220456945This anon is why movies suck. He's not trying to make the best movie he can. He's trying to make some sort of statement and is writing memos like this. He's not looking at the movie as a massive engineering challenge or sweating at the thought of previous movies that he'd have to top. This type of guy represents modern hollywood: office drones that dress casually but have the creative energy of a half baked LLM.
>>220454705>We wuz myceneans and shietBRAVO NOLAN
>>220460472you're missing the point. no one gives a fuck about the actual history and if they do, they aren't having a good time. go read a book faggot.
>>220460492>nigger obsessed cattleyou talk about niggers a lot I bet
>>220460397>>220460434Are you guys unable to follow the reply chain? The point is that SSA is genetically distinct from northern africa. Not that literally 0 humans have ever crossed the sahara
>>220460794>literally 0 humans have ever crossed the saharaThat is what chuds believe though
>>220461281the point is that when roman sources talk about "africans" they mean "people from the continent or province of africa" which is, as shown here >>220460109 more or less what we call north africaafricans from sub saharan africa or axum/ethiopia would have been much more exotic to them, not only because of skin color
>Where you there no then STFU: The Threadbrought to you by fucking ripley scott
>>220461442Who cares about roman sources, chud? You don't even know that the Odyssey is Greek myth, do you?
>>220456918>>220460387immersion, buddy. all i want is to not be taken out of the movie by glaringly obvious errors. it's like that starbucks coffee in got except here the camera is doing constant close-ups of the error
>>220461281You believe castrating yourself made you a woman.
>>220461530>Who cares about roman sources, chud?see >>220459548>>220459665this whole discussion started with roman sources about african troops
>>220461442>africans from sub saharan africa or axum/ethiopia would have been much more exotic to them, not only because of skin colorThe Historia Augusta explicitly states that the soldiers at Hadrian's Wall which Septimius Severus encountered were Ethiopians.CopeAndSeethe
>>220460093>I saw the t.v. spot with the rapper and it's actually not that bad.Are you kidding?It looks absolutely atrocious.You seriously hear this dude speaking and aren't immediately taken out of the movie?
>>220457039What are you his fucking boyfriend?
>>220454705That's a big helmet
>>220459665Wow, they hired mercenaries. No one has ever done that before! So progressive.
>>220461978They'll be expecting none of us in the horse, brother
>>220454705>>There are Mycenaean daggers that are blackened bronze. The theory is they probably could have blackened bronze in those days Helen of Troy is blackened bronze
>>220462039The boat plan I charted on the Agean Sea lists Achilles, Ajax the Greater, Diomedes, but only ONE of you!
>>220456918Because I won't go see it otherwise. Cope, seethe and dilate.
