>McQuarrie's agents were quickly told not to bother pitching him for ‘Top Gun 3,’ as Cruise’s camp had already ruled it out. The message was clear: whatever the history between the two, this wasn’t going to be their next collaboration.>The biggest factor appears to be the fallout from the last two ‘Mission: Impossible’ films. Those last two films, ‘Dead Reckoning’ and ‘Final Reckoning,’ had very difficult productions; the latter saw its budget balloon to $400M-plus, and the two-part finale drew mixed reviews—particularly criticism aimed at its A.I. villain. Both installments failed to hit the franchise’s previous box office highs, each landing in the $500M+ range worldwide.>Cruise, fairly or not, ultimately blamed McQuarrie for the underperformance. The two remain “friendly,” but the prevailing sentiment is that they “need a break” professionally. The result is that McQuarrie is now attached to two non-Cruise projects, both fairly buzzy endeavors. The first is a ‘Conan the Barbarian’ sequel, with Arnold Schwarzenegger returning to the role he made famous, and the other project—which has sparked a bidding war between five studios—is the “Battlefield” adaptation, with Michael B. Jordan attached to star.https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2026/5/2/tom-cruise-blamed-christopher-mcquarrie-for-mission-impossible-misfire-keeping-him-off-top-gun-3
>>220466552he's correctmacquarrie overcooked
>>220466552>worldofreel
>>220466552>The first is a ‘Conan the Barbarian’ sequel, with Arnold Schwarzenegger returning to the role he made famous:/
>>220466552>old men fighting
>>220466552>The first is a ‘Conan the Barbarian’ sequel, with Arnold Schwarzenegger returning to the role he made famous, and the other projectIt's not too late to make picrel, but they need to start right fucking now.
>>220466552Has he tried to blame his face? No one wants to see this 65 year old man acting like he's still 30.
>>220467017that plot is way too chud adjacent, it would never get made
Top Gun Maverick was a fluke.you can't make retardedly expensive actionslop starring this old fart and expect to make money.Reminder that no Mission Impossible movie grossed more than $700-800 million worldwide.
>>220467028>McQuarrie did everything wrong with a franchize where a basic bitch paint by numbers plot brings you tons of cash>actually, is le white protagonist faultjam boy alertgood morning sirshit in the gange today?
>>220467183>franchizeYou're not white.
I blame whoever decided to split Dead Reckoning into two movies. The first one had horrendous pacing and was 90% filler. The motorcycle trick wasn't even that cool and it only lasted about 20 seconds.
>>220466872>Why are we shooting my scenes first?
>>220467631The katana fight on the bridge was insane wasn't this supposed to be an "spy" thriller what's with the kung-fu & master swordsman?
>>220466552>top gun 3kek. what's he going to do, crash his plane (wheelchair) into his bed and go to sleep?
>>220467818>wasn't this supposed to be an "spy" thrillerMission Impossible movies haven't been real spy thrillers for years. They're straight-up action movies about secret agents.
The franchise was wearing thin with that JJ movie.And frankly nobody wants to look at Cruise looking like an old lesbian or the supporting cast that all looks bogged and bloated.The more "cool" they try to be, the more embarrassing it comes off.
>>220467631It's not just that, the overall writing and set pieces and everything suffers from sloppification. It's like nothing is made by human hands and the script is just punched out by some prompt. A lot of "big" franchises suffer from this like the F&F where it all just becomes nonsensical green screen garbage and characters are just doing whatever.
bro just one stunt bro just one more movie stunt bro please okay bro please just one more stunt for a new movie just one more stunt bro c'mon just one more stunt I got it in me just one more stunt bro please bro please bro please just one more stunt
>>220467978Which ones were JJ?
>>220468292One with Hoffman, 4 I think. The one where they kept chasing the rabbit's foot mcguffin. The whole thing was thin and was going on vibes alone.Later sequels had even thinner scripts.
>>220467017only if his real life bastard spic son plays the part
>>220468368>imagine winning the gene lottery im jelly ngl
>>220466552He went on and on about how they didn't have a script and just made it up as they went along, maybe that's the fucking problem, Tom.
>>220468323Three, but yes.
>>220466552I like the Mission Impossible movies but they're just super played out at this point. It feels like 50% of them have the exact same plot as each other.
Pretty cold of Tom's to basically ditch a guy he's a had such a long and overall successful run with. I kind of just lost some respect for Tom.
if they kept the big action setpieces and cut the 6 hour runtime to 2 hours the last 2 MI movies could have made a great action flick
>battlefield movieI'm the biggest shill for Battlefield 4's campaign, but they the series has no overarching plot or anything that can be turned into a movie. What a nonsense idea.
>>220468533It's just a saucy headline for clickbait. They likely realize that Cruise as a star is no longer a huge draw and he's getting old so time to do something else.Cruise still has potential as an older actor in smaller roles for award baiting and McQuarrie would be sought after by streaming studios to do some in-house slop.
>>220468584BF and CoD campaigns are just knockoff Michael Bay movies, they're perfectly made for fucking braindead shootie movies. Just do BC2's if you need to have humor in it.
>>220468584Why BF4 of all of them?
>>220468766I just think it's a really tight campaign with likeable characters and locations. And I think it unfairly got a lot of shit at release.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoCVz6e5HdM
Do they still use the battlefield theme in the new games?
>>220468856Yeah it's still around. But they continue to butcher it with "modern" remixes that sound like nails on a chalkboard. Nothing beats the original renditions.
>>220468584anon did you completely forget bad company?
>>220468584Are you pretending Hollywood cares about the story of video games?Resident Evil films have literally nothing to do with the games lmao
>>220466872So will Conan be passing the torch to a younger black man or a younger woman or a younger black woman?
>>220468368
Maybe they should do a "small" Mission film, similar to the original TV series, something closer to an Ocean's 11-type con/heist film, with Cruise as the leader of a team played by an all-star cast: a Chalomet as Rollin the man-of-a-thousand-faces, a Sydney Sweeney as Cinnamon the honey pot, a Michele Morrone as Willy the muscle, maybe Kevin Hart as Barney the tech guy. They take down a villain played by another bankable name. Give Tom a decent stunt sequence or two, but let others carry the ball for sequences of their own, and then everybody teams up for the climax.
>>220469462The next step here is to do a tv show revival for one of the streaming services.Attach some stars like you said and so on.The films are played out. This is boomslop territory, new audiences are not interested in it.
>>220468021And people want that
>>220469462Audiences wouldn’t want that
>>220469587Clearly not enough
>>220469374>So will Conan be passing the torch to a younger black man or a younger woman or a younger black woman?His beaner son
>>220466552> Mission Impossible: Fallout
>>220469648Shit, I'd actually watch that movie.
>>220468453Making it a two-parter was a huge mistake. The Mission Impossible movies work as self-contained stories, but stretching it out across two movies, especially with an AI as villain (thus no real compelling antagonist) just stretches the already convoluted plot wafer thin.I never tire of Tom Cruise running, or absurd stunts (full marks to Cruise for doing them), but I do tire of bloated two-parters and being told over and over how special and awesome Ethan Hunt is.They should have made a self-contained story, but planted seeds for their next MI movie, without over-committing to it.
>>220467017The King Conan script by Milius has existed for years and I think that ithe one Arnold has been shipping. Milius and Arnold were supposed to do it years ago, but the Milius had a stroke, so the project fell off.
>>220466552>>220468533I remember that when the final M:I was announced as two parter, it kind of sucked the audience interest out the room. A lot of commenting was, that they weren't interested in seeing the finale in two parts.
Plot?
>>220467079Feels like they missed the window to make top gun 3. No idea why it wasn’t fast tacked after how much of a hit 2 was.
>>220469917TG2 merely scratched an itch but it was really exceptionally dumb. They wouldn't be able to pull it off twice.
>>220466552seems excessive desu, his earlier two MI flicks were pretty good and his top gun sequel was tolerable
>>220469058Not even dice remembers bad company
>>220467079>Top Gun Maverick was a fluke.Action slop vigorously promoted and funded by Israel and CIA is hardly a fluke. Amerimutts just love to slurp up that military propaganda.
>>220466839>>220467183>>220467631The blame really rests on whoever decided to listen to the focus/groups/screenings/whatever that made them dumb down the plot so stupid Karens and brain rotted tiktok doomscrollers could understand it. All that shit with the key being in two parts. End of the day only the first Mission Impossible movie was actually good and the second was a solid popcorn movie. None of the others are worth watching.
>>220470546The plots were always dumb and generally irrelevant. The issue is that nobody wants to watch Cruise hang off airplanes and shit because he's 60 years old and looks like a lesbian.
>>220470546Fallout is widely considered the best MI movie.
>>220466552>mcquarrie favored the tense submarine scene>cruise wanted the boring flying airplane sceneI wonder if mqcuarrie also insisted that the final reckoning was a tom cruise-worshipping circle jerk with a chosen one messiah complex. That shit was embarassing
>>220466552you're a social media slave not a scholar, take the fucking papyrus font off queero the younger
>>220468533despite the fact that these are good movies, most of tom's bombs are on here
>>220469917Even moreso when you realise Maverick had began filming in 2018 and wrapped in 2019. Tom will be a decade older by the time they start filming the third movie.
Looks like a fusion of both main characters from dumb and dumber.
>>220471122Both of them were good. The problem with final reckoning was that it took a fucking hour to get to any meaningful action, and was just kinda boring and unsuspenseful otherwise.
>>220471894Gotta get all the geezers to mug for the camera and do a heckin wholesome familia routine "aw hell naw Ethan we're not doing this again!!"
>>220466552>top gun 3BIG YAWNmake something original
>>220470662>The plots were always dumbEven so the disparity of comprehension it took to follow the plot of the first movie versus the most recent ones is ridiculous.I dont need the cast of characters to sit down and summarize the plot of the movie so far for me a single time, much less multiple times just because brainrotted social media addicts put movies on in the background while they doomscroll.
>>220471870He's a former pretty boy, they age horriblyThey can't all be Sean Connery
>>220468323Later sequels were a huge improvement, MacQuarrie saved the franchise1 was great2 was terrible3 was mediocre4 5 6 were surprisingly good7/8 back to mediocre
>>220468533You're only as good as your last envelope. But also probably this story is a plant by someone trying to disrupt the Cruise/MacQuarrie relationship
>>220472838>Doesnt like Woo - Moore - Braga kino>prefers JJ's turdNgmi
>>220467631That movie was weird. The constant close ups on faces and tom looked very strange.
>>220467028Good point, anon.(He'll act as though he's 20 instead).
>>220472520His mistake was trying to maintain the early middle aged man look.
>>220466552I blame whoever decided to kill off that female character.
>>220466552Why people didn't like the AI villain? I think it was something new and interesting.
>>220473665it's a little too high concept for these movies, audiences prefer a big hulking bad guy that gets beat up by the hero
>>220467631>Dead Reckoning 1 was mostly filler, Dead Reckoning 2 was also bloated and basically retcons half of what that did happen in the first so it might as well have been it's own movieWhy make it into two movies then? Not to mention each of them were close to 3 hours long, you really don't need 6 hours to tell a story in a Mission Impossible movie, a franchise that essentially always boils down to >We need to steal X device from Bad Guy in Secure Location before he does something bad
dead reckoning wasn't that badi kinda liked it better than the previous two which is new meme cinema anywaythe second movie was kinda wonky but still i feel like he cruise did his best and it doesn't feel fair to just blame the director despite it allthey manage to adapt to the new meme cinema again with whatever they did after ghost protocol which still had that old cool 2000s or so kind of vibesince rogue nation they went with the new cinemaalso i never cared for top gun and never got the whole fellatio and ass rimming about iteven the new second movie was nothing hot to me
>>220473193I've never actually seen #3
>>220474291dead reckoning was one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Makes sense that you would like it
>>220467631>>220474041Have you two been living under a rock for the past 10 years? Almost every movie series and tv series ends in two-parters now. As far back and Breaking Bad
>>220466552Gotta agree with the AI villain being insanely lame.A lot of media can be made with their villain alone. A good villain will make something average into something insanely good.
>>220472838This. I genuinely love 4 and 5. The sandstorm chase with the pumping Michael Giacchino track is one of the great action set prices of the decadehttps://youtu.be/7tCM5cOBNA0?si=U9IRYzxqFqO4bhBV
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>>220466552>Dead Reckoning’ and ‘Final ReckoningThis news makes sense.Probably the two worst mi movies, the writing and the plot was retarded, the villain was shit and even the setpieces are lame
>>220476593>even the setpieces are lameThe bike into the train and submarine spinning were kino, otherwise I agree.
>>220468533>Top GunYeah there is no chance it made that much
>>220476576Indeed, lots of great action set pieces strung together with enough charm = solid 8/10 action movie, which is 10/10 by today's standardsIt's like the Fast and the Furious franchise, which also got surprisingly good again a few movies in
>>220466552The only Mission Impossible i've seen was the 1rst, and it was only because i had the N64 game.
>>220469058Half of bad company were just lines lifted straight out of Generation Kill with some boiler-plate race against the clock to get a russian super weapon.
>>220468533It's ridiculous that movies cost so much now. Then they complain that they didn't make enough profit when it's their own fault. You can't just keep pumping money into making it and expect it to magically generate three times the income no matter what
the last 2 MI movies had atrocious writing. it felt like they were reject scripts from the 90s
>>220477839>It's ridiculous that movies cost so much now.Anon you need to understand that big studios don't actually make money off the box office (as soon as it becomes profitable they owe everyone with back end points). They make money by getting people to invest in the next movie. If you make a 100 million dollar movie that does 500 million, then next time you can ask for a 200 million dollar budget - nothing about the next movie is actually more expensive to make (except returning actors as is contractually obligated), so the studio pays itself back with most of the budget to cover administration costs, spend a bit on the actual movie itself, and then sell the finished product to marketers and distributors. The movie doesn't actually need to do well, it just needs to do well enough that you can keep going back to the well and asking for slightly more money than last time. If you have too many high profile flops then investors aren't going to fork over cash anymore. Its a cycle that happens in hollywood - eventually budgets get so high that movies cannot possibly make their money back mathematically. Eventually the studios put too many eggs in one basket too many times, and they collapse, or start to hemorrhage money so badly they have to gut themselves, downsize, and sell off anything that can. Then you start getting a generation of film makers who actually want to make movies using every trick they can imagine to make things work inside the limited budget, and can actually resonate with a smaller audience. Now you have a moderately budgeted movie that can easily make multiples of its investment, and studios start promoting these outsiders making weird shit because they smell the money, and the whole cycle starts over again.
>>220466552the last MI wasn't bad, it just felt pretentious and had pacing problems, imho, some of the characters weren't needed but were forced to have some purpose, the villain was a total asshole, also a human female pulling the special hard drive thing out faster than an AI can react seems goofy af but ok she's a gifted pickpocket.the underwater scenes were great
>>220468368supposedly in the comics conan had son issues, so would make sense
>>220469374hope not.
>>220469648ahnold should have white, black, yellow sons now to complete the options, train them all to bodybuild and laugh
>>220471870it was windy or something.....
>>220469374you forgot best choice: 1/4 jewish, 1/4 black, 1/4 brazilian, 1/4 "white"
>>220476579what is that?
>>220469665underrated
