>In a world where Truth Serum exists, Sirius didnt ask for a dose ONCE during his 12 year tenure at Azkaban>they still have trials instead of having the defendant drink the serum to learn what happenedWhat is wrong with Wizards
>>220477016truth serum is not guaranteed to work, because wizards can alter their own memories to appear genuinely innocent, like light yagami in death note
>>220477074Dunno
>>220477016It was written by a cunt
>>220477016Well we have lie detector tests IRLThey're generally not admissible in courts but they're still used by a lot of law enforcement agencies
>>220477016He mentioned he didn't have a trial because Crouch just wanted him in jail and he looked too guilty.
>>220477016Veritaserum can be fooled, just like muggle lie detectors can be fooled by people who know what they're doing
>>220477016>truth serum AND mind reading AND pulling your memories straight out your head AND imperiusyet you have half a dozen people getting wrongly sentenced(hagrid,sirius, the bus ticket guy, the elf of the rich woman voldy murdered, voldy's granpa, probably more I forgot about)
>>220477109They also don't fucking work.
>>220477109Lie detectors are a shame broThey just see how nervous you are
>>220477307According to some judges that's true but their continued use shows that's far from a universal opinion
>>220477016It was written by a woman.
>>220477109>They're generally not admissible in courtsBecause they aren't actually "lie detectors">they're still used by a lot of law enforcement agenciesBecause they work because criminals are idiots and believe they work which leads to them confessing.
>>220477125this. Also as I recall, Azkaban wasnt a normal prison where there are appeals, and parole hearings, or any amount of bureaucracy. It's literally just a dungeon with extra magic BS to make it more secure and miserable
>memory extraction magic>time travel contraptions>truth serum>items that can straight up just say whether you did something or not>he still gets thrown into prison
>>220477365No, it is widely known they simply track various physiological conditions and note spikes in them. Criminals are superstitious and cowardly lot and if they think a machine can tell if they lie they'll believe it. It is a tool for obtaining confessions
>>220477365They aren't used in court, they're used to try and get retarded suspects to get scared and confess to something after being told that the lie detector told the cops that they actually did kill all those people.
the problem with truth serums is that they don't actually make you tell the truth, only what you think is the truth
>>220477016yeah,and dumbledore and other wizards are specifically trained to see other people's memories.but whatever,dullest franchyse ever.
>>220477016Written by a junkie for children. Analyze a better movie dumby.
Sirius was introduced in Book 3Veritaserum wasn't introduced until Book 4
>>220478046So? The order theyre introduced doesn't matter, later concepts should makes sense with earlier concepts.
>>220477365Nah. A lot of law enforcement use them in their hiring process ans one dude i know that used to be a cop just said stare at a fix point on the wall so your eyes don't move around, sit still and just calmly reply and they won't notice if you're lying.
>>220477365pretty sure it's just used as a scare tactic these days
>>220477262Hagrid never actually got exonerated, the aurors sort of forgot about him after Dumbledore got him out.
At least when Umbridge was imposing her arbitrary-composed rules on Hogwarts, in the fifth Harry Potter film, they were visibly posted and uniformly enforced. And they bothered to actually pay their custodian Filch.Luckily for the students, they weren't randomly penalized for unspoken rules against posting images of animated amphibians or revisiting joke discussions.
>>220477125The Wizard legal system is just completely bananas
>>220478252How are you even supposed to read those rules?
>>220478284very carefully
>>220477016exactly. the mom and azkaban are tyrannical shit. voldy is almost justified in what he does
>>220477365Bud, you’re barely literate.
>>220477068That's actually a good reason
>>220478252>animated amphibianslike this lil guy?
>>220478405What makes you think that?
>>220477881Stay mad
>>220478252>>220478284>>220478495In the movies and books (and upcoming show) the Wizarding world seems harsh. But, at the very least, they provide opportunities for monetary compensation for squibs like Filch.Objectively speaking, Filch is worthless in their magical society. By all rights, they would be better served by having him ground up for Hippogriff food. But, merciful as they are, they still ensure he's paid for his custodial services.The only beings who work for free are the house elves, and they're literally sub-human.
>>220478813He could be a janitor at a school and get paid more
>>220478831>be a janitor at a school and get paidOf course. Imagine cleaning up...for free? Even in a fictional cinematic wizarding world, that would be outrageous.
>>220477016Canonically, Sirius never even had a trial. He spent twelve years in a cell without even being convicted.
>>220479872What an asshole
>>220478810Stay gay faggarino.
>>220479985hey, cool it with the homophobic remarks
There is also the context of Crouch's son being accused of being a death eater, so he had already fallen from his impeccable position. He needed someone important and people thought Sirius was almost as Voldemort's right hand.