>Draft dodger>Real first name is "Marion">Grew up in Southern CaliforniaHow did this pansy become the apex of masculinity in film for boomers?
>>220483728What a bloody basterd benchod.
>>220483728>Draft dodgerWasn't >Real first name is "Marion"Based>Grew up in Southern CaliforniaBased
>>220483728Like all the others he sucked a mean dick
>>220483728also>talks like an absolute fucking retard
>>220483728Has a very square face
He's an actor you autist
>>220483728>6'4>broad shouldered>masculine squintHe looked the part, his name really doesn't matter. Ever heard 'Boy Named Sue'?
>>220483728He was a zesty buck
>>220483838How do I learn to squint?
>>220483882Ask Lindsay Ellis
>>220483882start doing THIS
>>220483728Hating John Wayne is reddit
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>>220483728Zoomers don’t understand that before the internet we saw film and television as gospel.>>220483882I hope a Chinese anon answers this question.
>>220483728>>220483864You guy's know he had a film career way before this picture was taken, rightAnd way before this movie was made, rightYou always use pics when he's old as shit, using a younger reference shot would really drive home the draft dodger narrative Remember he and his entire film crew got cancer because they decided to film a geghis kahn picture on radioactive land
>>220483864Words mean thingsRetards on here are so insecure that they have to declare every successful male 'gay'. Usually their evidence for this is like one still frame of them looking slightly vaguely fruity. It's retarded.
>>220484121Are you doubting jewish Hollywood's homosexuality and actor's natural proclivity for sucking cock for roles
>>220484012>Remember he and his entire film crew got cancer because they decided to film a geghis kahn picture on radioactive landthat shit still cracks me up
>>220484012>John Wayne portrayed Genghis Khan in the 1956 film The Conqueror, which was filmed on location in the desert near St. George, Utah. The production,, particularly in Snow Canyon, was famously plagued by dangerous nuclear fallout from nuclear tests at the nearby Nevada National Security Site, which is linked to a high cancer rate among the cast and crew
>>220483752>Wasn't Yes he was. WWII
>>220483728>>Draft dodgerYou say that as if it's a bad thing, Jew.
>>220483728>Draft dodgerThe studio that owned him stopped him from enlisting. Besides, he did more for the war by promoting bonds and entertaining the troops during their rally shows (I forgot what they were called) than he ever would have done fighting in the military.
>>220484958OP know this. OP is full of shit.
>>220483728like most zoomers I guess you dont know that california was a red state until the 90's. the whole, "everyone hates super liberal california" thing is quite recent
Did you ever aee a thread about Jon Bernthal and how tough he is?I love threads about actors from the past because all of the retards here actually believe that those old farts were even tougher than the fake Jon Bernthal Yeah, man. Those fags? Pretending to be tough on screen? Those fairies? They were tough.kek
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>>220484192uhhh but /tv/ told me old hollywood was run by republicans and was based and redpilled
>>220483728>70 years later>Boomers still mad that their dad liked to watch John Wayne moviesLike nigga, move on already
>>220485203Boomers watched john wayne movies. the people mad about shit like this are Gen X or younger
I don't understand why people criticize draft dodgers when the draft is wildly unpopular. Every single time I've pushed someone who was angry about draft dodging they admitted that they oppose the draft and might have done the same in their place. The draft is slavery, you'd really hate someone for avoiding extremely dangerous slavery?
>>220485203With the high frequency at which this exact post shows up on /tv/, I have to think it's something more; maybe along the lines of:> Wayne was a spokesman for traditional values both in the films and in his promotional life> To attack traditional values, you attack Wayne
>>220483882Go outside in the sunBonus - oil your face up for a nice raw 60s suntan
>>220485282people generally changed their minds about the draft from vietnam. before that culture was never on the side of draft dodgers, it just made you a coward. cant compare many things about todays society compared to 80 years ago.
>>220485282John Wayne wasn't some average Joe from the Midwest who didn't want to get killed. He was a shill for the government and all its wars.
>>220484958>>220484993Jimmy Stewart was a much more well known a-list actor who had already won an academy award and no studio stopped him from enlisting, while Wayne was still doing b-list movies and hadn't even hit the height of his popularity
>>220485282WWII was a far more justified war than Vietnam. That said, draft dodging wasn't unheard of but I'd imagine it was more personal than political. Opposing intervention in WWII after Pearl Harbor was basically impossible to justify.
>>220485382Jimmy Stewart was a full bird Colonel during world war ll and even rose in rank with the air force reserve to brigadier general from when he first enlisted as a private, making him the highest ranking actor in american history
>>220485487The President is Commander in Chief. Ronald Reagan was the highest ranked former actor
>>220483728Southern California in those days was cowboy city. Based.
>>220485546no one would consider the president even with the commander and chief title a serving line officer lol not even a lucid reagan would make that claim
>>220485546joint highest ranked
>>220485654I'm simply pointing out the objectively incorrect statement you made. POTUS is always commander in chief, and always outranks all other military.
>>220483752see>>220484782alsoMarion is a girl's nameSouthern Cali is libcuck centraltry again faggot LMAO
John Ford relentlessly humiliated and bullied John Wayne throughout filming 'They were Expendable' over his failure to serve his country. Ford was a highly decorated World War II veteran, whereas John Wayne had avoided the military draft to stay in Hollywood and advance his career.During a scene where Wayne's character had to salute an officer, Ford forced numerous retakes. He then turned to the cast and crew, using Wayne's draft-avoidance status as a weapon"Duke, can't you manage a salute that at least looks as though you've been in the service?""Show him how to salute, Bob. We all know how to salute, don't we?The relentless verbal abuse only stopped after co-star Robert Montgomery, a fellow decorated WWII veteran, confronted Ford on set. Montgomery told Ford directly to stop treating Wayne that way, causing Ford to back down
>>220485680>>220485670Nah, you would never make that kike pilpul claim when a democrat is president
>>220483728Smoke inhalation and lead exposure melted their brains.>It's their cultcha
>>220485710>Southern Cali is libcuck centraljohn wayne was born in Iowa in 1907
>>220485382John Wayne's stardom was in that fragile phase just at the cusp of being a big star, that's why either he or the studio (I've heard both versions, I don't think anyone alive knows for sure) pushed to keep him out of the war. If he got put on hold to fight, his career easily could have stalled and died. Jimmy Stewart's star was already established, and him serving in the war could only serve to make him bigger and more beloved granted he survived. Not to downplay Stewart though, he's a hero and an icon fully deserving both of those distinctions.John Wayne definitely avoided the war using connections and such, and it may very well have been for self-serving reasons, but I don't think it was out of cowardice or fear of fighting or anything like that. I think it was a calculated career move that may not have even been steered by him.
>>220485240John Wayne's children were too old to be considered Boomers.Actual boomers hated him because of Vietnam. Gen-Xers vaguely understood that he was famous a long time agoMillenials and Zoomers....John Wayne might as well not exist
>>220485919you know most boomers werent actually the anti vietnam hippies right? that was a very small part of the actual population. boomers grew up watching more westerns then any other generation ever
>>220483728>Herro, Mr John Wayne
>>220485958>you knowStopped reading. This isn't reddit. Learn to write like a man if you want people to take you seriously.
>>220486028>stopped readingstopped reading. This isn't Gaysex.org
>>220485734I always thought The Expendables was Wayne's best movie, to think he was being humiliated constantly by the legendary director that basically made him a star really paints him as a cvck in my eyes
>>220484782It in is really funny that he spent so long being so pro military but I get it. He was in his late 30s and was already having health issues, was rich, and comfortable.
>>220485382Did actors like this go extinct? Whos the Jimmy Stewart of 2026?
>>220485734>He rarely drank during the making of a film, but when a production wrapped he would often lock himself in his study, wrapped only in a sheet, and go on a solitary drinking binge for several days, followed by routine contrition and a vow never to drink again. What a psycho lolI wonder what fucked up mental shit he was processing during those binges.
>>220485546The President is in charge but is not in the military which is run by civilians. Reagan was still a civilian when he was in charge of the military. So you could say within the uniformed services which is different from being in charge of it. Even the SecDef/War is often a civilian and can even run it with no military experience at all.
>>220486246The way things are going and where we are headed, the world might start making a couple more of them in the near future, sure feels like things are playing out in a way that doesn't feel exactly like it's repeating itself, but it sure does seem to rhyme
>>220486268From what I've read Ford's drinking problem got a lot worse after his ww2 experience, famously he filmed at Midway but apparently he was there during the D Day landings, although according to Ford his footage was too graphic to be released to the public.There's speculation about if it even exists, or if it did exist but was since lost or destroyed. Ford had a habit of making up things about his life but I doubt he'd lie about this since he had huge respect for the military.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ford%27s_D-Day_footage#Product