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He objectively did nothing wrong. If you "woke" up to a life of eating slop and living in a cave I'm pretty sure you wouldnt be too happy either
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>>220493465
he was wrong because he basically just committed suicide. you cant go back from taking the red pill.
when he "goes back and has his memory erased" the person he is right now is dead entirely.
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>>220493488
Im sure he hates himself enough at that point where he doesn't care.
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>>220493488
I don't see why he couldn't be plugged back in. They literally have a plug in their head and reconnect to the matrix all the time. What's the issue?
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>>220493465
>"if"
fuck off normalfaggot
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Once you have left the cave and seen the sun its impossible to return.

They also had no basis for requesting memory wipe as thst was never shown in the films unless we want to pretend Dark City was a prototype matrix
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>>220493465
you can't get over it can you
jesus
he was a fucking loser
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He probably got the same enticing speech from morpheus as neo did, and then realised he had to live as a stinky hobo in a submarine for the rest of his days. A bad deal and he didn't even get any
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yeah sure i just play video games, watch movies and jerk off in this supposed matrix. i wouldn't mind getting unplugged, their video games are way more immersive. also, oatmeal is pretty good I've eaten the exact slop they showed in this movie all my life. i don't even bother to heat it. it's fine so shut the fuck up and eat your oats.
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>>220493820
But Zion is a confirmed fuckfest and you dont even have to be on morpheus' ship.
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>>220493465
>leave metaphorical cave
>now youre in a literal cave stuck with brown retards having 24/7 bisexual orgies
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>>220493846
Zion is a gay retcon (literally)
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>>220493934
you don't have to project
people would call you out
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>>220493934

The matrix being self contained then makes more sense since they just kind of allude to Zion existing and its supposedly pretty hand to mouth.

Knowing its this total bleak hierarchy of no pussy and slop and given he mentioned the morpheus speech so he too was " the one " potentially for a while....
Re-loaded was fucking insane from start to finish though. Highway scene being pinnacle with trinity going against traffic.

3rd movie was just apeshit

Never saw 4th
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>>220493987
I'm really not bothered by counting the first movie as the one and only Matrix, with maybe Animatrix as a lore companion
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>>220494043
tell us more of your autistic thoughts on it please
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Am I retarded or wouldn't humans literally die if they weren't exposed to the sun? Vitamin d and what not?
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>>220494107
>Am I retarded
...yes
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>>220494098
Maybe (you) were projecting all along
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>>220494132
uh uh keep going
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>>220493729
All the pods are full,no takesy backsies
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>>220493465
I could eat slop and live in a cave while fighting robots. But not if I'm surrounded by browns.
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>>220493465
How many people do you think tried to kill Morphy once they found out the truth? Mf could have been a little more honest about what being unplugged means.
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>>220494237

Well depending on the type and size of plug the results are pretty similar
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>>220494184
>brown people exists
it's a fairly accurate small sample of whole humanity
it's the last human society on earth
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>>220493465
>have the ability to create your own program where you can eat whatever and do whatever
>can just spend your time there when you save everyone
>still decides to be a treacherous faggot and screw everyone else
>can’t just be honest and say he wants to go back and has to fuck everyone else
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He totally fingerbanged Trinity when she was plugged into The Matrix and took pictures of whatever it was Switch had in her/it's pants.
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>>220493729
>I don't see why he couldn't be plugged back in
The machines don't owe him shit.
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>>220493465
Not being able to fuck Trinity didn't help either.
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>>220493465
I love how this movie handles the audiences questions. Bro just takes an elevator down to some big fuck off place that has an unimaginable amount of machines and literally tells the audience
>See that machine? I have no idea how it works but that's how we get our water
>See that machine? I have no idea how it works but that's how we get our food
And no one even questions it lmao. I don't think I've ever seen a movie or tv show get away with some bullshit like that lul
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>>220493465
I'd be pretty happy if I had access to VR technology that plugs directly into my brain, is 100% realistic and immersive and I can use it to live all my fantasies.
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>>220494385
are you partially retarded
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>>220494385
We are easily satisfied with straightforward answers. Its honest. Unlike Aragorns tax policy
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>>220493465
who said anything about happiness? it's about reality vs pretense
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>>220494301
The machines were pragmatic, they would have every reason to plug him back in.
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>>220494170
But Neo left, so there's an open vacancy, right?
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>>220493465
>EAT THE SLOP
>WEAR THE RAGS
>LIVE IN A POD
>RAVE WITH POC
>AND YOU WILL BE FREE AND HAPPY

I'd fucking carve up that nig for conning me in taking the red pill
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>>220493465
>imagine jf
that's my life now, surrounded by encroaching third worlders, filth everywhere and nothing makes sense and is worse by the day.
I've tried telling the people in my dreams that I want to be put back in, but so far no deal. how can I find neo to trade him in?
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>>220493465
That's what being a chud is. You 'woke' to the insanity of the culture you live in, but the downside is you end up out in the cold.

>>220494037
> bleak hierarchy of no pussy and slop
See what I mean? it's just like being a chud
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>>220494385
That's actually very smart worldbuilding because
a) nobody fucking cares
b) whatever bullshit you come up with will be disproved by some faggot engineer with too much time on his hands in a 5000 word forum post
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>>220494617
The machines were practical, the energy expenditure wouldn't be worth it.
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>>220493465
The red pill is a transsexual allegory
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>>220495283
>implied you'll ever get a red pill ever
you wouldn't do shit anyway
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>>220495353
he is the energy retard
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He betrayed and murdered people. And no, wanting to be more comfortable isn't a valid excuse btw
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>>220495495
He was also betrayed himself. Probably got enticed with esoteric bullshit and vague promises
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>>220494617
Especially since the whole crux of the Matrix is "accepting the choice (or illusion thereof)" and they have an actual real example of someone that knows fully and STILL accepts and in fact prefers the Matrix
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>>220495495
>He betrayed and murdered people
only the dyke no? and the nigga
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>>220495425
Read that comment again, tubby. He wouldn't produce more energy than it would take to reintegrated. Machines have no time for gratitude, they have farms to run.
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>>220494282
>claimed to be from the 90s
>population distribution looks more like 2100
reminder that the machines were selectively growing the pod-people, what would be the reason of sporing 9/10ths of them as sub saharans?
thought they wanted to use 'brain power' as electricity.
not very efficient
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>>220493465
His mistake was believing the machines will give a shit about him after they got what they want.
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>>220494385
this post incited the low iq third worlders that likely believe zion-zoo and wakanda are real
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>>220495903
human brain generates about the same as a light bulb, around 100 watts, he can live for another 30-40 years easily.
if I had a battery giving me 100 watts for 40 years uninterrupted, I'd plug it in.
carrying his body to the pod and plugging it in is neglible in comparison, it might be offset by 3-4 days of him charging them.
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>>220495999
>999
I was wrong.
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>>220493465
Betrayal will always be the worst thing you can commit. The only people that defend it are assholes that will betray you. Never fucking trust OP or his ilk.
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>>220495999
>human brain generates about the same as a light bulb, around 100 watts
This is incorrectly stated in the movies, the human brain CONSUMES around 20 watts. Humans make for terrible "batteries".
But in terms of canon, how much energy would an autonomous flying sentinel consume just to grab the guy, transport him and put him back into a pod.
It's a complete waste. He did ask to get brainwiped so he would be none the wiser.
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>>220495925
This. You know already who they represent. With machines you lose.
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>>220495805
He gets Mouse killed because of the ambush (a Mousetrap if you will), he unplugs the white haired woman and her friend (don't remember his name) and lasers the black dude.
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>>220495925
The machines are not humans. If you make a deal with them they will hold up their end of the bargain. Why wouldn't they?
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>>220495528
>well ackshually *pilpul*
No. He wasn't. Words have meaning. That's not what betrayal means. You're jewish btw
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>>220496131
>no! You can't backstab ME! - the backstabber
Wow you figured out in real time why honour and loyalty are valuable qualities.
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>>220496082
the brain generates electricity, the human body generates energy, is your arm freezing cold? now try moving around a bit, is it warmer.
i didn't take the information from the film, it's just common knowledge, look it up.
the brain/body consumes calories and turns them into heat/movement and electricity.
if the pods have even small kinetic harvesters in the pods to capture the thrashing - even from a weak human, there's more than enough.
low yield very long term battery
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>>220496082
even over 30 years he can generate 26 million watts, I doubt the flying machines use that much to hover around for a few minutes.
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>>220495903
>. Machines have no time for gratitude

It's not gratitude retard, its a deal
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>>220496316
Deals are a human concept. It plays no part in a program finding the path of least resistance.
Don't be so daft, anon.
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>>220496389
>a program finding the path of least resistance.

They're AI not a fucking Atari program
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>>220496406
Finding the path of least resistance applies to A.I. more than an Atari which has a path pre-programmed by developers.
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>>220493846
I would rather die than live in the negro pit that is Zion.
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>>220493465
its a very interesting and cool sci-fi premise that couldve been uniquely explored but the writers/directors are brain dead and just went "if you dont fight against the machine you are evil"

dude just wanted to go home and live the best life he knew, he actually had a pretty good thought of "at this point ive lived most of my life as a nobody fighting the machine in real life and was plucked out of my cage, let me back in and give me a hot wife, this shit is unwinnable", and at the very end of the series he was proven correct lol
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>>220496447
>Finding the path of least resistance applies to A.I.

AI is dynamic on a macro scale, you think they care about saving .0000000000000000000000001% in energy because bep bop computer
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>>220496531
>you think they care about saving .0000000000000000000000001% in energy
Since the machine's goal is to continue it's own existence,
yes.
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>>220496634
its*
FUCK I lost
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>>220496142
>Words have meaning.
Imagine if Neo got that talk he got from Morpheus but he turned out to be a nothingburger and just became a Cipher-like crew. You wouldn't feel betrayed by the misleading? It's not direct like a dagger in the back, but I'd still see it as a betrayal of trust. So; betrayal.
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>no Neo, I can't just tell you or even show you what the Matrix is, you have to irrevocably wake up and come fully out of the Matrix forever to know what it is
>*immediately puts Neo back into the matrix and plays him a short video to succinctly explain the entire situation*
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>>220496634
>Since the machine's goal is to continue it's own existence

So youre back to thinking its a retarded computer thinking in absolutes

Which is funny because even by that dumb logic you can also claim that not honoring the deal is expending extra energy by additional computational bullshit

Or destroying an extra human battery that literally volunteered to go back is the path of more resistance
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>>220496647
check mate
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>>220495903
How much power does it take to plug him back in? In watts or joules, your choice.
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>>220496502
series should have ended with him sitting in the same restaurant eating a steak with his wife and someone coming up to ask him for his autograph
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>>220496786
he won't answer that, just like he ignored >>220496268
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>>220494385
That scene also tries to make a point about humans needing machines to survive
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>>220496502
It’s if you don’t want to be free you’re not human.
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>>220493465
it was probably living with all the gay brown people in zion that pushed him over the edge tho



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