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Why is every television show and anime/manga ending so bad? Is there something in the water making people write bad endings?
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Life always has shitty endings
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The monster ending theme is the cat's meow! I know you mean story endings but im having a giggle, mate!
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i think a good ending is the hardest thing to pull off. not defending shit endings
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Your expectations are bad
Nothing wrong with a life goes on ending
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>>220498047
Because when you like something you don’t want it to ever end
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>>220498047
she has fetal alcohol syndrome
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>>220498047
Because retards like >>220498080 defend them.
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>>220498047
They don't plan the whole story out in advance like they do in a movie. They just make shit up as they go along and hope they get another season and not canceled.
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>>220498047
for manga a lot of them are forced to end suddenly because they no longer do well so they have to rush to write an ending that was probably not intended
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I like Evangelion ending.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf1DkBQRQj4
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In ongoing episodes, you are kept interested and any potential disappointment is managed because it's not the end.
>I loved this episode, and there's more to come
>this episode sucks, but the next one will be better
When it ends, it ends. That's it. You're left wanting more if it's good, so the ending sucks. And there's no new future season to recover from a bad finale. And your expectation is heightened because it's the last episode.
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>Six Feet Under
>The Shield
>The Sopranos
>Mad Men

Great endings are possible you just have to watch better kino
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>>220498047
Hubris/greed. Usually storytellers do have a planned ending for their story, but they throw that out in service of "big twists", "subverted expectations", or just continuing the show for more fame/money.
Then they're left scrambling to make a sensible ending.

For example, the original plan for Attack on Titan was to have the characters fight in a huge battle that seemed impossible for them to win, and fail. As each chapter went on it was supposed to get bleaker and bleaker until you realize these people are fucking toast and of course they can't win.

But the manga exploded, was the biggest anime in the world, and the mangaka wanted to keep going. So he rewrote everything and in the end needed to steal Code Geass' ending
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>>220498047
Because authors think they are clever and want to subvert expectations, thus giving us complete dogshit to be subversive
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>>220498047
What properties have the best endings (no spoilers pls)?
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We live in a horrible capitalist hellscape where tv shows can't just end, they have to be done in a way that they could come back in some way to make money.
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>>220498343
This. Lost is one of the first series that got completely fucked over by retards paying attention to their fanbase on the internet and trying to trick everyone.

It's been this way for a while.
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>>220498351
Gattaca is fucking the best! The usual suspects, fight club, pontypool. I know this seem obvious and basic but they were great movie experiences.
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>>220498047
More series need an epilogue.
Having the ending just bam its over and it be the lest episode is pretty jarring and doesn't really give the closure it needs to, especially for longer running stuff.
Having your ending be the 2nd last episode and then the last episode is a more chilled out episode just going over the impact of what happened to the characters, how they moved on, resolving things.
it also provides the perfect chance to tie up loose ends, don't need actually properly tie the up, characters can just talk about how it happened and oops all done and resolved, it happened offscreen after the end and before where we are now.

its really underrated in actually having a good ending that feels fulfilling.
Cutting straight from the high to it being over without a bit of a drop is jarring and hard to do well.
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Escaflowne, cowboy bebop, and dragon ball z made me have a bittersweet moment for experiences all those stories.
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>>220498854
>Gattaca
the final boss showdown against his brother, followed by the guy accomplishing his dream while his doctor knew the whole time and the other guy incinerating himself was pure kino back to back to back
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>>220498047
12 Monkeys The series ends well.
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>>220498047
Unlike classic endings like The Sopranos? KEK
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>>220498047
>cuck ending or wage slaving

Kek.
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It's just discovery writing where they go in with the mindset that having an outlined plan is too creatively constraining and you should just write as you go and let the plot develop "naturally." This kind of writing tends to start off pretty strong as the writer gets to burn through all the ideas they've had milling in their head and then lose steam and become unfocused and bogged down by a web of disorganized plot threads and inevitably come to a rushed conclusion or it just never gets finished.

This kind of writing is good business for TV because it's good at getting people invested in the good early years and keep them strung along as long as possible. By the time the shitty ending comes they've already milked you dry anyway and it's time to move you on to the next slop.
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>>220498111
No, she still has a philtrum
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Writers get much more practice at writing act 1. A huge number of episode 1 scripts are written, a minority of those get made into pilots, a minority of those get greenlit for season 1, a minority of those don't get cancelled after 1 season, and a minority of those actually get a proper ending. The number of beginnings that get written must be exponentially higher than the number of endings.
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>>220498047
You can have a good ending all the time, is just depends when you end the story, just like in real life :)
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>>220498047
if something is successful its usually not allowed to end early because of money.

Example: Squid Games season 1 was perfect but everyone wanted more money so they made season 2 which ruined it
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The real answer is something a lot of people would prefer to ignore, which is why it happens so much.

Basically it is because there is a lack of Christian virtue and humility in the narrative. Most of the time characters just punch their enemy hard enough to win, and things tend to resolve becomes might makes right.

Luffy, Naruto, Goku, Eren, etc, all win because they're the strongest (with help from allies.)

Instead of going through the Western tradition of suffering in order to achieve one's goal. Most stories (even Western ones since they go against the tradition these days by default) -- the story hasn't done the work to pay itself off in a satisfying way.

It's why I never started Invincle, stopped watching The Boys after season one, and basically most shows that give up trying to have a moral aspect to them.

Lord of the Rings pays off in the end because Frodo went to the brink of his suffering, sanity, and self-sacrifice to destroy the ring. In most stories, Frodo would or whoever would just punch Sauron and win through the power of friendship or something.

Even Harry Potter, as shitty as a lot of that series is in terms of plotting, at least has a decent finale because it hinges (outside of retarded wand lore) on Harry's sacrifice for his friends. It's the death to self journey and the acceptance of death that is spiritually fulfilling and satisfying to viewers for an ending to a long series.

Without a moral framework there is no true progression, and there can't be a satisfying end. See the vast majority of Stephen King's works, and see how Game of Thrones never end got an ending.

Tolkien the goat.
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>>220498047
If by some luck or actual ability you manage to make something good, other people will try to milk it for money, interfering and ruining it. This makes the already hard task of sticking the landing harder when you have to fight to even end it how and when you want to.



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