Your modern day historical epic, sir
Jesus I'm going to have to add like 500 images to my filter because of this fucking movie huh
>>220513956Who cares, goy? The movie will make money and we will keep pushing niggers down your throatYou lost, chud, you will be replaced
Im starting to think you guys are just racist, no one cares about "historical accuracy" or whatever the fuck
>>220514382Enjoy your eternal middle ages
>>220513956It's not historical, it's a literal fantasy movie.
why do nigger women look like men
>>220514398Fuck off from our entertainment, culture, history and literature, mongoloid blackwasherfucking racist
>>220514408ancient greece was realthe book existsnot that blackwashers care since they blackwash historical figures
>>220514398I'm a racist
Got tix pre-ordered already, opening night with the missus gonna be awesome haha
>>220514398You would shit and piss yourself if we turned black characters white again like in old hollywood, you are just an hypocrite and hate whites
>>220514444dont forget to invite the bull too! haha
Ethiopians are not bantu. Try saying that to an Ethiopian and he will get mad at you. Libtards believe Africa is an homogeneous land where everyone south of Sahara is just "black". No sweetie, Africa has dozens of ethnicities and that thing you call "Lupita" sure as Hell has nothing in common with an Ethiopian (Nubian).
>>220514466Nigger, according to that map you posted, ethiopians are somali not nubian
>>220514412low sexual dimorphism, the same as asians but on the opposite side of the scale. the funny thing is they do have a lot of estrogen, even the guys, they just have even more testosterone
>>220514481Nubians are a minority these days but they were the largest group in what was known as Ethiopia during the Bronze Age. Read a fucking book, Jesus Christ.
>>220514466She's actually from some Nilotic tribe. Nubians were Nilotes and Greeks called them Ethiopians. Lupita is probably pretty close to what ancient Greeks called Ethiopians.
>>220513956You lost the culture war rightoid
>>220514398Holy shit you dickheads never learn. I’m sure you’re trolling but we really did go through the dumbest period of film and television created by liberals and now Hollywood is gone.
>>220513956>historical epicThe Odyssey is 100% fictional. Also the Trojan war never happened
>>220513956The thing I don't get: If you want to cast black actors, why not change the fucking setting? Why go for "historical accuracy" otherwise?
>>220514578Troy did exist. It's not much of a stretch that Homer was inspired by actual historical events.
Still whiter than the average greekoid.
>>220514625yeah sure and so did carthage
>>220514735You're a moron. Google it.
>>220514466Ethiopians in Homer time was anyone in the lands south of the Aegean sea, and they knew almost nothing beyond the coasts.It has nothing to do with the country that much later used the name Ethiopia
>>220514446>turned black characters white again like in old hollywoodI' would e interested in seeing how much is it true, at this point.I mean, it obviously happened, but how many times actually?All I've heard are just the same few examples.Meanwhile blackwashing has been a continuous ubiquitous effortAt this point I'm pretty sure there are 1000x blackwashing cases compared to all whitewashing in all history of movies
>>220514578Ancient Greece existedBronze age existedIthaca and all the other places exist
>>220514382>>220514398Wtf are you people even doing here? Fuck off to reddit and never return.
>>220514625The Trojan war was seen as a myth even in Ancient Greece. If a conflict did occur (and that’s a huge if) it was over banal shit like trade routes.
>>220513956Yeah “white-armed” Helen a native of Sparta I’d definitely groom fucking Ethiopia. Kill culture marxists.
>>220513956Why is Hollywood so racist? It's not our fault that they can't find roles and interesting movies for Lupita and Zendaya to star in. Why do they blame us for their racism of including them in a greek epic race swapping them?Why does this keep happening the same exact way over and over with no one calling out the blatant racism Hollywood exhibits by not being able to make believable movies for brown and black people to star in that doesn't involve rewriting history
>>220515638>The Trojan war was seen as a myth even in Ancient Greecefalse. you don't know what you're talking about. herodotus for example debates homer only on specific details like the whereabouts of helen. legal disputes over land would be settled based on information from the catalogue of ships. they 100% considered it real. their entire society was founded on considering it real because aristocratic families would legitimize themselves by claiming descent from homeric heroes.
>>220514555Let's see who wins the civil war then.
>>220514578the homeric epics are closer to truth than anything they teach you during black history month. achilles is more real than "martin luther king"
>>220514398you're a little slow, anon
>>220513956>>220513956this image is fake news from 3days slave please to not to spread it black queen is not confirmed for nolan epic please to buy tickets or film is dead
>>220515909Ah, good old Polemon and his polemics.
T H I S S U M M E RE X P E R I E N C E G R E E K P O E T R YL I K E N E V E R B E F O R E
>>220515909I don't have to sit here and read criticism from a fucking Pokemon
>>220514398I really don't like black people much. They're ignorant, loud, violent, and they shirk their duties in the workplace but are impossible to fire. Yeah, I'm fucking sick of them. What's to like at all?
>>220514398>no one cares about "historical accuracy"why are you here, then?
>>220513956>Greeks knew of Ethiopians [...] as distant figures in HomerWell good news then, because this is exactly what's portrayed in the movie. This does not take place in "Homer's era" as your picture seems to imply. It takes place in the pre-collapse era where indeed these people were in contact, as you own pic acknowledges.
>>220513956Okay, but couldn't you play devil's advocate, and argue at a black woman being so rare would actually be considered a unique prize
>>220513956she had to be cast to reflect today's most beautiful woman
>>220516013...but, but, rap is just recorded!
>>220516597Would be OK with it if Helen looked like this. She cant be both NOT Trojan and NOT beautiful
>>220517034Keep trying to rationalize this bullshit however you want. It's gonna flop.
>>220514398>no one cares about "historical accuracy" or whatever the fuckThat's where you're wrong, kiddo.
>>220517068>It's gonna flop.I hope so. It's about time audiences stopped falling for Nolan's bullshit. Guy's never made a good film in his life.
>>220513956>Homer's era (c.800BC)The Iliad is set 400 years earlier in approx 1200BC, the height of the Bronze Age. It was literally people in the Greek Dark Ages looking back at a perceived 'Golden Age' of heroes and gods.
>>220517443>The Iliad is set 400 years earlier in approx 1200BC, the height of the Bronze Age.Yes, but it's not written with people and customs of 400 years earlier in mind. It's written in a contemporary fashion, and readers/listeners would largely have imagined it as such.
>>220514398No one's racist here. If they cast some beaner woman this board wouldn't have made a peep.
>>220515909Completely fictional quote btw
>>220515638That shit is like saying that WW1 exploding had nothing to do with Archduke Franz Ferdinand being assassinated
jeets are turning every board into pol lol. granted i believe in the bad things myself but can we not homogenize everything plzalthough watching house of dragons recently its rather jews and woke that brought pol into the TV with the constant propaganda...
>>220515722Zendaya is ugly garbage that media will never have any use for.Lupita, on the contrary, is good, and segregating her to blackwashed white characters won't do he any favor
>>220514610If it's about "representation", why not comb history for apropos tales, why not create new fiction, why always redo white male stuff with the white men replaced? Answer: it's a slap in the face and they know it2000's era New Labour flunkie said in internal documents that the purpose of mass immigration was to "rub the right's face in diversity"; now, how does that sentence make any sense if diversity is a good thing? You don't rub your enemy's face in ice cream, you rub it in shit
>>220516233There are no africans in Homer's books. And there were no Greek africansAlso Homer's ethiopia isn't modern ethiopia, much like New Jersey is not the Jersey island
>>220516371Doesn't work when it violates all local canons of beauty.Very few would be into it, even less than now.And it works the other way around too
AHAHAHAHAHA WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS THING
>>220517638>white male stuffNot sure why you think the Odyssey is specifically "male". It's not even "white", in the sense that it's pretty much a universial tale. And it has been remade countless times without lending its titles to those remakes, in very different shapes. Some of them you'd probably consider "new fiction".
>>220517494So when making an adaptation about it, which should we follow? The historical event as best we can reconstruct it or the contemporary misconceptions of the author? This is like Renaissance paintings which depict Roman soldiers in 16th century armour.
>use the worst photo possible>mention history when talking about ancient capeslop>masturbating to Brad Pitt naked oily body while pretending not to be gaywhy are people like this
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>>220513956I despise these images. Not because I disagree with the intention, but because I think they’re too boomer-coded. Boomers argue like this image; long-winded explanations on accuracy and realism, using sources and citations with the expectation that the other side will offer similar politeness to you. Through this a discourse is started.It’s bullshit. All of it. This kind of simpering debate is how we got into this mess. Jews are masters of this type of discourse, they call it pilpul. The argument never resolved in a way you like it to, because realism and accuracy is not the point. This is why the media is so aggressive against anyone who is explicit in their frustrations, because it’s easy to argue the “realism” of something but it’s far harder for them to feel safe behind, “we’re doing this because we hate you, goy.”
>>220517731Nolan is irish-catholic
>>220514446And you would not say a damned thing if they whitewashed some black character, so are you really any better? Rules for thee, but not for me.
>>220517708If you want to stay close to the text, obviously the author's. Just like you don't change Shakespeare's anachronisms when, say, putting Julius Cesar to the stage.Of course, if you want a more liberal adapataion, you can do whatever you want. From trying to "fix" the setting, to completely changing it (to, say, a space captain lost in the Andromeda galaxy after having infiltrated and destroyed some planet).What you shouldn't do, obviously, is mix and match like Nolan seems to be doing: If you have authetic historical costumes and architecture of Ancient Greece (be it from 800BC or 1200BC), you cannot also have actors that don't fit into that setting.
>>220517846No, I would be saying, “how does it feel?” Right back to you. Because little victories like that are rare.
>>220517717>Still no tits and no greek, or at least european
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>>220517846Except yes I wouldAnd whitewashing doesn't get made, blackwashing do.And there ahs been 1000x more blackwashing in the last 10 years than all history of movies, faggotWhen are you begging to be forgive for the blackwashing of the Odyssey, faggot?
>>220513956Helenqueesha
>>220518037>No answer to thispredictable
Youtube is surprisingly BASED in the comments section of every video about this.
>>220513956Well, if it is “Odyssey” then Helen of Troy would be a minor character, because Odyssey is about how Ulysses went back to Ithaka AFTER the siege of Troy and events of IlliadJust kidding, obviously Nolan just chose the name because nobody actually knows the name of the poem describing the siege of Troy but everyone knows about Odyssey
>>220515638>Trojan war was seen as a myth even in Ancient GreeceLet me guess, you watched the retarded Nolan paid "classicist" and "homerist" video on youtube? Ancient greeks didn't have a clear division between myth and history, and even later when the boundary became a bit clearer they still believed battle of Troy was a factual event. Never ever ever ever read a book about that tho. Keep watching slop. Stay shallow.
>>220513956There is a reason why you keep seeing an image from a completely different movie whenever The Odyssey is discussed. You are being controlled.
>>220514567Patricia?
>>220519271>nobody actually knows the name of the poem describing the siege of TroyEverybody knows the Iliad's name. Particularly because Ilion is literally Troy's Greek name. So it's basically named the "Troy Story". Which would be a great title if Pixar ever adapted it.
>>220519145It's a movie made for third worlders, it doesn't matter. Indian videos will be full sapportive sirs
>>220517717I concur. She is very attractive and since she refused to star in the Woman King because of the historical truth she is quite based. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKZqHrMlR9k
Aren't you trannies tired of bringing this up over and over again? Nolan doesn't give a fuck, you're just whining into the void.>boohoo I want my all white castThis is 2026 nigger, they've been doing this for the last decade and a half, get fucking over it, at least she's hot, it could have been CCH Pounder. She'll probably barely be in the movie.
>>220519394how come we never see that guy second from the right in anything anymore?
>>220517705Nice try faggot
>>220519846because he's on tv and theres 50 million shows
>>220519394Nolan really should have done something like this. Nobody would have complained.
>>220514382>The movie will make moneyLOL. LMAO in your face.
>>220519898made its way right into schools
>>220514398when gosling mlk biopic?
>>220519822>She'll probably barely be in the movie.I suspect most of the trailer is just flashbacks Odysseus or someone is telling the suitors and it's mostly lies. Just like The Return, the plot will mostly revovle around Odysseus' wife and her situation and then Odysseus turns up and kills everyone with a stick.
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Would opinions change if she was hot bros?
