What's with American productions' obsession with putting aliens that look like small crabs ?That's completely idiotic and contrary to any kind of intelligent evolution.Do you honestly believe that aliens that look like crabs will be able to build ultra-sophisticated spaceships and all ?Fucking retards
>>220514670It's called crab theory, look it up
>>220514670Anon look at your hands. Pincers. The clothes you're wearing? Shells. Crabvolution is inevitable.
I've got teeny little crabs in my pubic hairs.
>>220514670>What's with American productions' obsession with putting aliens that look like small crabs ?Name 5 movies
>>220515186I'm speaking generally. In video games, movies, and TV series, aliens often look like land animals. It's stupid.I'm willing to accept that it exists if there is life elsewhere, but it cannot be an intelligent civilization like ours from an evolutionary point of view that can be applied to a very broad scheme.It's like fucking sheep-like building spaceships that travel at the speed of light and have an ultra-advanced civilization. Sure bro
>>220515364You suck.
>>220515364In games its because you can freely kill them without people complaining for a back story for them or wanting to fuck them. In movies its a similar reason, killing simple creatures requires less plot devices
>>220514670Its wholesome chungus
>>220514670>Current year>Not embracing carcinization. NGMI
>>220515364Name. Five.
>>220514670they wouldn't be able to build shit with their shitty rock fingers, let alone sophisticated precision tools
>>220515433Hiccupers guide to the galaxy, Alien Vs Prometheus, Contact, Forbidden Planet, Planet of the apes
>>220514670William S Burroughs - Nova Express (1964) blue alien crab infestation, they come from the star system that became the crab nebula. Placed on earth by Nova Mob agents, alongside other aliens from other inhospitable and destroyed systems, to cause conflict and war on earth pending planetary extraction. This is the primary original source, ask me about it if you’d like (book fucking rules by the way)
>>220515433AlienAliensAlien 3Alien RessurectedAlien vs Predator
Normal sized crabs are just the earth's genital crabs by the way
If you guys continue fighting after i must gave you the real actual answer, in going to go apeshit. Do you realize how far i had to go to discover this fact? I had to fucking read The Soft Machine. You ever read The Soft Machine? Didnt think so, you couldnt take a Land of Grass Without Mirrors for a fucking sentence you’ll never learn about the Green Deal
Do you feel it is misanthropic to depict an intelligent, spacefaring non-biped?
It kinda feels like the author took from star treks tholians Species that lives in extreme heat, pretty much toxic gas to us they breathe and all of their systems are physical and almost sonar based seeing.Only difference is rocky is small and not immediately ultra hostile
>>220517086>ever thinking sci-fi ideas originate from tvI already told you >>220516874Yes the crabs are an obligate radiation-feeding species
>>220514670Well they were presented as some form of collective conscious resonant crystal colony life form so what about that didnt you get?
I like Half Life's Shu'ulathoi. Basically a giant larva with a humongous brain that can literally bend time and matter.
>>220517515Brain bugs of Minraud, iykyk
>>220514670TINY FRIEND CRAB.
>>220515364What do you expect aliens to look like?
>>220517829Sentient binary star astrally projecting into the minds of humans
>>220514670Crab battle?
>>220517047It just joins the long list of hollywood shity sci fi creatures that don't make any sense from very basic evolutionary logical standpointwhich shouldn't be a tragedy if at least was something original... or at the very least it wasn't a completely anthropomorphized funko pop
Don't talk shit about Wild Wild West OP.
>>220517895Name an example, anon. You’re bitching about aliens “not looking like aliens” and not offering examples of what aliens should actually look like. Are you imagining the guys from Contact?
>>220517895The species works differently than us, if we could hum resonant frequencies of matter in unison to manipulate it we would act differently too. Sorry man not every sci fi stoey is biped supremacy
Eridians are fine because you see quite clearly how their bodily limitations have stymied their technology. Their ships are huge because they have to weave them, they don’t understand radiation because their planet has a thick atmosphere. They need specialized tools to see things we can see. They have incredible engineering skills and a unique form of metallic Xenon but that’s easily excusable by the fact Humanity also has super-materials that look like bullshit to an outsider (plastics.)
>>220514670Wait a minute I thought that movie was called hail mary. is this in french? how did they get that from hail mary? It feels funny to see my name chance on that poster.
>>220518059are you literally some kid of alien that just now discovered there's more than one language on earth
If im going to be blunt its because its a talking animal buddy movie and not a romance
>>220518145How do you go from hail mary to derniere chance? It's not a literal translation. I know enough about languages that what I'm saying is they didn't just translate "hail mary" literally because its an expression that doesnt have to do with what the words actually mean.
>>220518248It means “last chance.” Most foreign films don’t have direct translations.
>>220518248>I know enough about languages that what I'm saying is they didn't just translate "hail mary" literally because its an expression that doesnt have to do with what the words actually mean.if you knew that before googling it just now, you wouldn't have asked your questionyou are a literal alien
derniere chance = last chancesaluer = hailThats interesting how expressions arent translated literally but first they take "hail mary" and put it to what it means like last chance before translating it. Because hail mary on its own doesnt automatically mean last chance.
>>220518294go back to my first post, I asked How did they get that from hail mary?which shows you that was what I wanted to know from the start. you are trolling me
>>220516874Doubt the people who write those stuff have read Burroughs much less the nova trilogy, only scifi I heard he infuenced was gibson
>>220518248Both are local turns of phrase for the same thing, like translating a movie about doing cannonballs named ‘GERONIMO!!!’, to Japanese and calling it ‘BONZAI!!!’. They dont associate an indian chieftan with cheering, so pick a turn of phrase they do
>>220518312no, you're trolling mewho the fuck would wonder>why does this foreign language translation of an american football idiom not use the same words as the idiom
>>220518360They dont have to have presonally read him, the influence is already there and has bren directly drawn in other projects in the past. This is the first reference in history i can locate for crab aliens. It simply may be where the meme began. Either way the existence of the Crab Nebula makes it an intuitive thing to write
>>220516874>the crab aliens came from the crab nebulabravo burroughs
>>220517926First I'm not the first anon you were talking toSecond... were there aliens shown in Contact? I only remember a "hologram"As I said in my only post >>220517895, I'm fine if it's something at least creative and non completely retarded (like the cowboys vs aliens aliens, for example), and they weren't completely anthropomorphized (in behavior and culture).>>220517931>It works because technobabble! + a nice strawman for good measureThanks for your small contribution
>>220518059you've never seen the word chance before?
>>220514670Crabs are based simple as
>>220518021That's retarded. You are just parroting startrekisms
>>220518425that's a lobster
>>220518446I hate lobsterwashing of crabs
>>220518389Could be, but I have read all his books and alien crabs are not mentioned often, if it was centipedes though...>Crab nebulaSounds possible
>>220518446Oops https://youtu.be/GHQbQeP7XSU
>>220517829I expect them to look Judeo-Christian dammit.
>>220518435No it’s not. It’s a fictional story so there are of course liberties, but the Eridians aren’t some magical race with bullshit tech and are yet somehow retarded enough to be outwitted by a monkey. They are shown to have severe limitations that Humanity can shore up, and vice versa.
>>220514670Probably because they want the internet to spread the news about watching the movie and take genuine interest in the aliens shown, not horny interest and waves of porn of their aliens
>>220518475Are you suuuure you read all his books? Didn’t skip the entire cut-up trilogy did we? Why dont you refer to the chapter named ‘Crab Nebula’ in Nova Express
>>220518550Yeah man why wasnt the main selling point and special cg character of this movie a woman with a painted face?
>>220518515Magical rock spiders with magical unobtanium who don't know relativity and are completely human in behavior.Sure
>>220515364Rocky in the book is more alien, fully pentaradial symmetry. You could compare it to a starfish, but starfish are not dextrous and don't walk around like this.I prefer Movie Rocky and agree with the creative choice to make him a bit more expressive in a familiar way, where you can think of the top of his torso as a face and so on
>>220518840It's just an awful funko pop character like Grogu, but with awful millennial writing and marvel humorThere is nothing alien about it except its trite design
>>220514670God loves crabs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carcinisation
>>220518615>Didn’t skip the entire cut-up trilogy did we?Hahaha you got me only read one from that trilogy, I got filtered hard
This movie was just a typical 90's Disney animated kid's movie disguised as an adult space science movie. Think about it. A guy, who by some unfortunate events, washes up on shore on a tiny desert island. The only other being there is a cute koala bear. Together they learn to communicate by arranging sea shells or something. Then, with the power of friendship, they build a raft. But instead of going back to the world of humans, the man sails with the koala to the land of koalas where he teaches the koala children about his world and about the power of friendship.
>>220518059It would translate to Ave Maria in French (well in Latin) and I'm pretty certain the French distributors thought it would be insulting to the muslim population.
>>220518756>and are completely human in behavior.Except for their totally different habits like breathing, sleeping, eating, talking etc?
>>220514670Didn't you know? According to redditards, EVERYTHING will evolve into crabs.
>>220518876There's plenty alien about it.It echolocates with its whole body, rather than an organ, giving it Daredevil vision. That's something far beyond what any earth animal can do.It has one hole through which it both eats and shits. Some earth animals do that, but only a few small simple invertebrates, not anything bigger and more complex as the Eridians are.It lives in an atmosphere and temperature range very different from ours.And so on
>>220518882Carcinisation only applies to non-crab crustaceans evolving crab-like features through convergent evolution. But you're right, God loves crabs.
>>220519206OH.MY.SCIENCE.I litterally CANNOT wait to become a coconut crab.
>>220519251You're right and Eridians (like Rocky) breathe xenon gas, if I remember correctly.
>>220518446You're a lobster.
>>220519279You should become a Japanese spider crab. They're kino.
>>220519305that's an outrageous accusation
That scene where Ryan gosling was in the bar drinking aloneLiterally me...
>>220519484that scene was funny as shit, i almost bust my gut laughing at the lingering shots of the interracial couplethey were really proud of having that in there, they wanted to make sure nobody missed it
>>220519340snab
>>220519206Thats based though because it makes all crabs and space crabs ancient once-human things
>>220514670In the case of Hail Mary, the anatomic evolution of Rocky's species was explained in detail in the book.
>>220519064it's more likely that ave maria doesn't mean the same thing in french as what "a hail mary" means in english, no?
TRUE were are the sexy alien women
>>220514670>complain that aliens look too much like actors wearing bodypaint>complain that aliens look too much like mammals>complain that aliens have two arms and two legs>complain that aliens have facesThere's no pleasing you autists.
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>>220520035Nobody complained about the look of the original alien movie.Fuck off make something good
>>220519304Ammonia
>>220520035>>220520063But you complained about every alien movie and design past 2 lmao
>>220520063Rocky is literally cool and new
>>220520035Wrong, I love the design of the Eridians.
>>220519064Ave Maria doesn’t mean ‘an awesome tricky attempt to win a losing situation such as a football play’ even in French
No really do French futbollers shoot ‘Ave Maria’ shots in games? I dont know but I’d wager not
>>220518412Well he first noticed them on his dick and then when he decided to expand his story into space while continuing his theme and main idea of ‘all interactions occur at all scopes and levels, from cell to body to galaxy’ and said his genital crabs are like space crabs
>>220519251>It has one hole through which it both eats and shitsThis can't be a a sanitary evolution trait
>>220519955To my knowledge it only refers to the prayer "Je vous salue Marie pleine de grâce etc...".
>>220520509Maybe it's fine for Eridians, given what Rocky was seen eating which looked like lumps of coal. They could process food in a different way, not digesting it with a microbiome, and producing waste that's more inert, not rotting/decomposing