Chuck did absolutely nothing wronng. He was trying to save the law from scumbags like Jimmy
Chuck was responsible for Jimmy's downward spiral and he was indirectly responsible for Howard's death because he pushed all of his dirty work regarding Jimmy onto Howard. Chuck was a cunt.
>>220516032I think it's even a stretch to say that Jimmy and Kim were indirectly responsible for Howard's death. Chuck definitely bears no responsibility for that.
>>220516277Meant for >>220516095
>>220516032chuck was an ass but he had every right to be, thats the point of his character, life isnt fair and its more based upon likeability and adaptability rather than technical skill
Chuck couldn't stand that Jimmy was the one who uncovered the Sandpiper Crossing case. He made sure Howard wouldn't hire Jimmy at HHM after they began to seek HHM's help with it.
>>220516277Jimmy and Kim were secondary contributors to Howard's death, Chuck was tertiary. None of them knew that their actions would lead to the outcome, but they still did. I wouldn't necessarily call them responsible, but they weren't completely detached from it.
Remember when Howard politely suggested that Chuck should retire after the insurance rate hike thing and then Chuck instantly set about trying to destroy the firm? Chuck was always a piece of shit, he was just good at hiding it.
>>220516387But with that same reasoning you can say that Chuck and Jimmy's father contributed to Howard's death, as did their grandfathers neither of whom AFAIK ever appeared in the show, and so on ad absurdum
>>220516032Chuck was retarded and I never believed for a second that this stupid actor could be a lawyer
>>220516456Terrible bait. Nobody gives enough of a shit about this actor to defend him.
>>220516498I do.>>220516456Fuck you.
>>220516032He should have been honest when Jimmy came to him with his law degree and told him he isn't fit to be a lawyer because of his moral character, that he's opposed to him practicing law, and certainly doesn't want to employ him. He should not have lied and shouldn't have hid behind Howard. And most importantly, he shouldn't have been insane because he couldn't cope with not being perfect, and instead tried to self improoov and become a better person himself instead of resenting jimmy for his charisma
>>220516032>backstabs his brother to take all his work from him while he was trying his best not to help him but to live up straight, get his recognition and grow along with his girlfriend just because deep down he is jealous>kills himself later to make everyone feel worse since his turbo ego can't let him admit to himself he's flawed and need medical helpFuck this selfish asshole.
is Jimmy/Saul even a 'good' lawyer in the show? watched all BB/BCS and don't really recall him having any epic Perry Mason-type moments defending his clients
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>>220516652Sunroof shitter detected
>>220516032He was a bad brother who prioritized the law profession over helping his brother become a better man.
>>220516605I think a lot of his success is due to his illegal/corrupt practices, like having a stranger impersonate his client in court.
I don't remember if he did something wrong or not, its been over a year since I watched BCS, but what I do remember is him being extremely annoying and unwatchable with that electromagnetisim allergy. Huge change the channel heat with me.
>>220516456How does a lawyer look and behave like to you? I'm curious about it because I used to be one before getting a government job.
>>220516032But Jimmy wasn't a scumbag until he pshed him out? Sandpiper was a legit case?
>>220516690That exact example is borderline though since there's no actual fraud involved. He just uses it as a point that the witness doesn't have credibility because he can't even point out who he is accusing. It might not even be illegal. Now the "let's impersonate an entire Louisiana parish" tier stuff would be fraud and illegal.
>>220516714That's racist
>>220516095>Chuck was responsible for Jimmy's downward spiralNo he saw Jimmy for what he was. Dude took a fucking online class and honestly thought that was good enough to be a high paid lawyer like him. Even if Jimmy was "good" for a time he would have just slipped back into his old ways because that's Jimmy. You don't spend your entire life being a scam artists and literal thief and then suddenly "Oh I've completely changed now from what you saw last week." Like Walter said to Jimmy when he talked about his old days doing fake injuries for insurance claims which ended up actually causing him to get hurt "You've always been like this."
>>220516095>>220516456>>220516561>Is objectively right about Jimmy being scumbag, predicted him being a piece of shit, totally vindicated>ummmm chud, it’s YOUR FAULT that you were able to see through his bullshit and judge him by his character! HOW DARE YOU!!!We need more Chucks in this world and less Jimmies. We give way too many chances to the scum of humanity to make something of themselves which they use and abuse to drain society.
>>220516844Just watch Slippin' Jimmy and you'll understand.
>>220517118>write like a total faggotI won't even peruse the rest of your room temp post.
>>220516436NTA, but you just discovered the legal principle of proximate cause versus but-for cause.
>>220516915But that's Jimmy problem. He tries to see how far he can push the law which is not what a lawyer is supposed to do.
>>220517298>He tries to see how far he can push the law which is not what a lawyer is supposed to do.
>>220517223Seethe nigger. You will always be a fialure
>"The law is sacred!"the moment he said this he became the bad guythe law is flawed because it is written by flawed people, it can never be sacred. Being so enslaved to the law is madness
>>220517118>chudKill yourself you threadshitting brownoid
>>220517193The non-canon animated thing full of demonic possession and things like that?
>>220517617Oh my god he meant the rule of law and upholding the law as a principle, not any one specific instance of the constantly changing body of laws currently in effect
>>220516032Why wouldn't he just let Jimmy self destruct?
>>220518227I think that was what he was planning to do when he told Jimmy he never cared about him, then Chuck had an attack of the crazies and set his own house on fire while he was in it.
>>220516456no bullying the spinal tap guy
Jimmy went legit to make Chuck happy and live up to himHe only broke bad when Chuck said he wouldn't be anything else so he went and did just that
>>220518247vince likely didn't anticipate how popular the saul character would become leading to a legally-based spinoff he wasn't accustomed to creating, which is why there wasn't much actual law/courtroom-based plot and was mostly just an extension of the underworld shenanigans theme of bb
>>220516095Retard. Jimmy falling was his fault. Also Howard felt bad and Jimmy knew it wasn't his fault and yet he still fucked with him because Jimmy is a petty nigger who hates that he wasn't just given a free pass to HHM because of nepotism.
>>220516803You ever watch House? Every retarded actor ever is a doctor there. Just as unbelievable as this dummy.
>>220518227Jimmy's self destruction would take many people down with him. Also Chuck wanted Jimmy to just get it through his thick fucking skull that if he wasn't going to take being a lawyer seriously, he should get another job. It isn't his fault Jimmy grew delusions he could ever be in HHM and kept on>>220518247He was planning for Jimmy to lose his license for a bit and reconsider, since Chuck knew well that the only way to get him to think was to punish him (Jimmy never learns positively). Jimmy then decided to reveal to the insurance company that Chuck had mental illness which had him fired from HHM and stuck at home with his stress getting worse and worse and no friends.That's who Saul Goodman is. A vindictive rat who got so pissy that he wasn't let into HHM, he had to ruin the only thing his brother really had in life. Because he couldn't just become a TV presenter or a door-to-door salesman or something, he needed to be just like or better than Chuck.
>>220517313When you see what he does like laundering drug money through a bogus cancer fund using made up generated anonymous donations so it can't be traced but is all being done through legal means, yeah a lawyer shouldn't be doing that. It's why Jesse calls him "criminal" lawyer and even Chuck says "This isn't a game, Jimmy. People can get hurt."
>>220517617He means you don't use the legal system to help crime and corruption which is what Jimmy ends up doing because he's always been a shitty person.
>>220516032>OH MY TORTE , I MUST SAVE LE HECKIN LAWthe law sucks. fuck the law and fuck lawyers
>>220516032Everyone who says jimmy was the better person and that chuck is wrong only say this cause its a fictional show with LE HECKIN WHOLESOME CHUNGUS MISUNDERSTOOD BREAKING BAD LAWYERThe reality is is that if people knew a season 1 jimmy irl, they would ALWAYS say he is a scammer and a corrupt lawyer that should NOT have a license and potentially be jailed. The world hates scammers, theres a reason why people hate jeet scammers and their endless phonecalls. Chuck is completely right and STILL helped jimmy despite hating him and even saved him from getting buttfucked in prison and it still bit him in the ass for helping his scamming scum of a brother who did this shit since he was a kid. We need more chucks in our life that hate scum and fights for what he believes what is right which is what the world is lackingif YOU think chuck is wrong you deserved to be scammed by a jeet
